Do people seriously think this shit will win awards?
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Do people seriously think this shit will win awards?
Do people seriously think this shit will win awards?
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Yes. Awards are rigged.
It's more about laziness than being rigged. A lot of the people who vote only vote for the movies that they've heard of (they may not have actually watched any of them).
Wish is this generation chicken little
Spbp. Still Chicken Little was a box office success.
>people will unironically defend Wish 20 years from now
People unironically defended Wish 20 days ago.
>people will unironically defend Wish 20 years from now
No way these are real lyrics
The one with the turtle is a joke on how fast it talks, but the others are the real lyrics.
>when it comes to the universe, we're all shareholders
No way in hell is that a real lyric. If it is, no wonder some people think that the film was written by ChatGPT.
It even sounds sung by AI. WTF went wrong with Disney????
What's wrong with this lyric? I'm a brainlet.
He's the most popular by far and the writers are seething over it. They had to make a short explaining how magnifico is the bad guy, actually
>They had to make a short explaining how magnifico is the bad guy, actually
No fricking way, really?
https://youtube.com/shorts/EzUlfEhfZ4Q?si=TlGwn5pJjzalxaXm
The released propaganda against Magnifico!? This is hilarious, it's as if Asha had edited the video.
Holy hell those comments are braindead
just fyi everything after the question mark in your URL fingerprints you and everyone who uses your link.
It's just a throwaway account so I don't really care but thanks for heads up. In an actual situation would the solution be to delete the Google account or what?
Yeah, I think Magnifico was pretty kn the wrong for the not return wishes part, but I found it silly for the need to upload any explanation, because to me that means the story itself isn't very clear.
>What's wrong with this lyric? I'm a brainlet.
It's anachronistic. The term is from the 19th century when Rosas is set in the 12th-13th century. It's also just odd to bring up a word associated with money and stocks when attempting to sing an inspirational song.
>He's the most popular by far and the writers are seething over it. They had to make a short explaining how magnifico is the bad guy, actually
Gul Magnifico did nothing wrong.
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Well, frickadilly...
Did an actual musician direct this or did they decide to let the janitor have a go at it?
What the frick did I just listen to?
The idea of giving up on something or sacrificing something is kind of lost when the sacrifice is meaningless. There was a pretty big decision there, for Ember to potentially die (by not sealing the room and saving Wade) or for Wade to die (from getting boiled alive) but when it turns out one is irrelevant, it's not really much of a choice. Why be faced with a dilemma when you can just choose "I'll take everything?"
Sure, the whole movie was about facing and correcting misconceptions, but you might as well have Ember swimming around in a puddle at the end if that's all the thread really mattered.
It bothers me because, in the end, I can't really see a better way of resolving things. So I guess it works. It's just not satisfying.
>future showing Ember and Wade with a steam cloud baby
Save something for the inevitable sequel, now that it's considered a successful film.
>The idea of giving up on something or sacrificing something is kind of lost when the sacrifice is meaningless. There was a pretty big decision there, for Ember to potentially die (by not sealing the room and saving Wade) or for Wade to die (from getting boiled alive) but when it turns out one is irrelevant, it's not really much of a choice. Why be faced with a dilemma when you can just choose "I'll take everything?"
>Sure, the whole movie was about facing and correcting misconceptions, but you might as well have Ember swimming around in a puddle at the end if that's all the thread really mattered.
It shows he was willing to sacrifice his life for something that was important to Ember. It also earned Wade respect and approval in the eyes of Bernie, for sacrificing his life and willing to die in the name of preserving the sacred blue flame from Fireland.
The only part that doesn't work for me is why did Ember's parents have to leave Fireland? Yes there was a storm, but it seems like Bernie and his family and the rest of Fire society was completely fine when Bernie and his wife left on the boat to go to Element City. Bernie says he wanted to give Ember a better life but why wouldn't she have a good life growing up in Fireland around other Fires? That is the only part of the movie that didn't work for me, but I liked the rest, so excused it.
For me it would have made more sense if there was a giant Fireland civil war and Bernie and his wife left to escape the war.
As I understood it, her parents decided to leave rather than stay, rebuild and be poor anyway. Fireland seems pretty undeveloped compared to Element City.
This kind of made sense, but the rest of Fireland seemed like it was fine after the storm. Wouldn't Bernie and Cinder's family help them rebuild their lives? Surely Ember would be better off growing up around other Fires surrounded by her family then grow up in Element City as a feared and hated Fire person. But then again, I know the point of the movie is "Immigration good, melting pot good" so I shouldn't question it. Despite all this, I still really enjoyed the movie. I thought I would hate Wade for being a crying b***h when I read about his character and the premise and heard youtubers talk about him, but he was cool. He had funny jokes and wasn't treated as a useless idiot, and the waters crying all the time made sense and was funny, because they're fricking made of water.
It also looked like a tornado came and destroyed their home individually or even the local community rather than something that affected all of Fireland. It was more of a personal or family tragedy for why they moved.
sounds like a Christian rock song for kids
...what part of that sounded christian?
Protestant Christian music for kids is a very special kind of hell. Be happy you weren't exposed to it.
Hey! Some of those are absolute bangers and still slap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtT5m1cs6As
no, you're right. Veggie Tales is kino.
It sounds more like a gay coming out anthem to me.
gay coming out song
Protestant "music"
what's the difference? waka waka
This is what gappens when Disney fires their musical theatre people
From what I read in a previous Wish thread, they didn't even fire the good musical theatre people, they just had an absurdly short, cruched deadline that they wanted the soundtrack to be finished by. They approached their good composers- Menken, Miranda, the Lopezes, etc, and pitched it, but they all looked at the time they'd get to study the script, develop the soundtrack, see where the songs would fit, compose the songs, record them, and polish them (which was like three months max), intelligently went "FRICK no, I'm not doing that to myself", and left Disney scrambling for ANYONE to do the music for the movie.
They resorted to gunning for a nepo baby hack pop composer because she was used to churning out mediocre music in a super short timeframe, and that's how we got Wish's absolute nothing of a soundtrack.
Explains a lot, if true.
It continues to surprise me how many big companies cannot see that rushing shit out with little quality control is a recipe for disaster. Is this all because of their autistic obsession with their 100th anniversary?
>they just had an absurdly short, cruched deadline that they wanted the soundtrack to be finished by.
Ah, yes, that's the new explanation for their mediocrity. After all, they only had 100 years to prepare for the 100 year hommage. It totally caught them by surprise!
There was a pandemic
I kept working during that, you didn't?
>dere was a poandeeymicc!!!
Cool.
Godzilla vs Kong made over 400 million in early 2021.
The Pandemic!
Wait a tick
Spider-Man No Way Home made 1.9 billion dollars in 2021 and was widely critically acclaimed and by Disney.
Wish has flopped horribly, has received terrible reviews, and released in 2023.
HMMMMMM...........
Shit, can't write a script, there's a pandemic and I thus can't go to starbucks.
Strange World will become "le underrated gem" long before Wish is. Wish is going to the dumpster to hang out with Chicken Little.
>"when it comes to the universe we're all shareholders"
its called being a stakeholder you fricking peasant
>Shareholders
Remember when writers could immerse themselves in a world and write dialog/lyrics that weren't jarring?
More like Home on the Range. The failure that lights a fire under the executives and gets them make a world of changes.
It'll probably win something on the Disney brand alone.
I know very little about Wish, but I read the premise of it being for Disney's anniversary and something about wishing on a star and honestly I was really into that idea. I thought it'd be a bit more whimsical and hark back to some of the more classic Disney films.
Bums me out that it's supposedly shit, hasn't reviewed well and hasn't performed well either. Maybe I'll need to watch it myself to see why.
>Do people seriously think this shit will win awards?
Yes.
That like from ages ago, like early 10s. Might have changed now.
Most of the people voting for the awards don't even watch the content in question, so it's entirely possible. They just see "Disney" and assume it should be given the win.
>Might have changed now.
Unlikely.
I feel like Elemental botched the ending but I did think it was overall pretty good otherwise. The problem is that it's hard to enjoy the whole theme of the film when the end is just "make people laugh lol death isn't real."
I didn't care about Wade coming back because they aren't humans, they're water and fire entities. Wade turning in to condensed steam and reviving doesn't ruin the immersion for me, I grew up watching Ash get turned in to stone and dying then getting healed with the tears of crying pokemon after all. It's a cartoon. My only disappointment is there wasn't a scene in the future showing Ember and Wade with a steam cloud baby and introducing it to Bernie and Wade's family. The end credit scenes were fun but I really wanted to see Ember and Wade's steam baby. Just the fact Disney made a movie centering around a heterosexual romance with minimal wokeshit involved was refreshing.
I just didn't care about Wade coming back because I wasn't invested in the characters - not to mention there no way Pixar has the stones to end a story like that
have changed now.
>Unlikely.
Heard of this thing called "streaming"?
how does streaming fix the judges not giving a shit about animated films and just voting disney
You can't vote for Disney if your kids aren't clamoring to go to theaters and you don't have Disney+
Most of those "secret ballot" quotes end up voting for something else or abstaining like you should
I have a special hatred for the first guy
At least he abstained.
Same reason I don't mind RLM generally not reviewing animated films, it's clearly not in their wheelhouse.
They did an entire review of Roger Rabbit without mentioning Richard Williams once.
I do too, less for the "only 6 year olds watch cartoons" attitude and more for the "it is completely okay to abandon my 6 year old son in a movie theater" one.
>be me, little timmy, 6yo
>want to go to the movies with my dad
>"sure thing, son! what movie do you want to go see?"
>this animated mov-
>dad throws up a little
>kinda weird but maybe he's just feeling a little under the weather
>complete silence during the car ride, aside from dad occasionally cursing the existence of animated films every 5-7 minutes
>arrive at the theater
>dad puts on a trench coat, sunglasses and fake mustache to make sure nobody sees he's buying a ticket for an an*mated movie
>he takes me to our seats
>frick yeah, bonding time! we're gonna have so much fu-
>"alright timmy I'm 7+ so I can't watch this shit (obviously), I'm gonna go smoke for the next hour and a half. enjoy your kiddie slop"
>a trailer for another animated movie comes on, so dad immediately sprints out of the auditorium
>he's throwing up again on the way out
That and the smarmy "i don't watch animated movies and i feel the need to act superior and 'mature' about it, look at me abandoning my child to make phone calls LIKE A REAL ADULT"
Why do normies hate animation so much?
they're NPCs
Except no kid is dragging their folks to see Wish. Not over Mario or Netflix.
Why not? It's a great comedy.
This is anecdotal, but the kids I know were way more excited about the Five Nights at Freddy's movie than about anything Disney.
>I liked them all about the same, so I decided not to vote
Don't know why, but this one bothers me the most.
I'd get it if you didn't like any of them at all.
was this the year when someone called Song of the Sea "stupid Chinese shit"?
That was two years later, 2014.
Why did the first guy have to be such a dick about it?
Elemental, a movie that's actually good, has a better chance. I fricking hate Disney. I pirated Elemental a week ago thinking I'd hate watch it, but it was genuinely enjoyable. I expected it to be lame, but the Wade Ember relationship was actually sincere and entertaining. I think Disney will bribe the Oscar's to give one of Wish's shitty songs the best original song award so they can sell the movie as an Academy Award winner on the blue ray packaging and to save face over how bad the movie is.
Yeah
How did it get nominated at the Globes when most critics awards left it out?
Yes, but not because it deserves it but because Disney buys those awards like how they buy Rotten Tomatoes reviews and tickets for their movies.
Either they forgot to pay rotten tomatoes this year, or it was so bad not even bribed critics couldnt pretend it was good
I checked it a minute ago; the critics' opinion got lower, but the audience score is decent, for some reason
It is full of bots, those comments are too fake sounding
That's actually pretty high for how shit I've heard the movie is.
The way the "bribes" for Rotten Tomatoes work is that critics usually get access to tickets for early screenings for them and their families. If the review is too negative, Disney stops giving the critics the tickets, which means the critics will have less time to put out early reviews in the future. And early reviews usually do the best.
But of course, when something is genuinely a trashfire not even these critics can genuinely give a 7/10 for a fresh score or they'll lose credibility among the public.
Bribes for award judges can be more targeted in that they could just give a judge 1 million dollars if they want to and the judges are usually less subjected to scrutiny by the audience, so what matters the most is that the company doing the bribe doesn't look too shameless. In this case, I think Disney trying to bribe to get Wish an award would be too shameless, but judges might get bribes to vote for Elemental.
The first real Disney dud in a decade.
I legitimately wouldn't care if this company was just gone tomorrow morning, but I still have to admit it's really depressing how new Disney movies went from being a major event every media outlet talked about, to just total silence. I don't even think I would have known Strange World existed if I didn't read about the movie on Cinemaphile, and I don't think I would have known this existed if everyone online wasn't shitting on it relentlessly. Every new Disney release, I mostly hear about because people fricking hate it. It's been bizarre watching this company that always had the status of "being on top" proudly release stinker after stinker.
From watching the Disney renaissance in movie theaters to Radio Disney, Disney Adventures, and early Disney Channel, Disney was my whole childhood. Although, I started hating Disney before it was cool. Disney Channel absolutely sucked after the High School Musical/Hannah Montana/Wizards of Waverly era started. I hated Tangled and Frozen and others. While modern Disney going bankrupt would result in glee, it's sad in the way of losing a childhood friend. I almost feel sorry for them because of how great they used to be. I don't because they did it to themselves and refuse to learn their lesson. It's just so strange how Disney strayed so far from classic Disney to point of outwardly hating classic Disney. Disney was such a powerhouse because of those 30s-90s timeless classics modern Disney despises so much. How did people who hate Disney even get hired at Disney???
Yeah, Academy voters are moronic geriatrics. Awards don't mean anything.
After Wish wins Best Animated, it will be funny to see it go into theaters again and be seen by no one.
Disney putting Luca, turning Red and Soul back in theaters real quick shows they are a bit nervous.
It will, because the awards shows are rigged, and the awards mean nothing. They're like reviewers opinions vs actual paying customers.
I don't care how bad this movie is. Magnifico is hot. I got what I wanted out of it.
Such a shame he was wasted on this movie, he had potential.
They botched Dr. Facilier too. More in that they didn't make good use of him rather than screwing up anything about him
Shit him being perfect in every way just makes it worse that he's absent for most of the movie (And that his plan doesn't make a whole lot of sense)
No? It'll be nominated because it's the token Disney entry that has to be nominated but every race this year is pretty obviously going to come down to MIyazaki vs Spider-verse.
They weren't cool, but they definitely were respected. Like nobody made fun of you if you had Disney toys or wore a Disney t-shirt. It was just seen kinda neutrally.
Disney shoulda never strayed from their family-friendly image. But that's what happens when you let DEI and ESG run your company.
You severely underestimate just how normal America is.
No way. Disney is about a week away from pulling the plug on this movie. They know that the abysmal box office it would make during Christmas will make it look even worse.