No, it was trying to portray a nihilistic feeling of pointlessness about the mundanity of it all. It also pointed to the nature of the show's first season, which was the battle over man's search for purpose and whether or not it was worth it in the end, represented in the Yellow King, and answered somewhat in how Rust went from being a nihilist atheist to having a spec of hope about mortality and the existence of a higher understanding about the universe beyond what was immediately visible to the human eye.
Yes rust personifies the BATTLE, not the condition itself. And Rust is depressed the entire show because his family is dead but it is Rust that is decidedly not, at his core, a nihilist. He never was a nihilist.
nietzschean flavor of nihilism is the struggle. in face of modern world old traditions are fading and there is no clear purpose so you should make your own.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Rust never lost his sense of purpose, he surrendered his badge but at his core is a moral upstanding righteous lawman and I mean that unironically, he drove the reverend to fricking suicide by breaking into his house during the timeskip and he did that because he always knew what was right. Marty opened a private security company and Rust spend SEVENTEEN YEARS slowly accumulating his psycho storage unit of schizoshit, all to stop the cult or do what he could.
Nothing about Rust was ever nihilistic.
3 months ago
Anonymous
and that's where unwarranted patch of absolute nihilism is attached to Nietzsche. he's schtick wasn't that nothing matters so nothing you do matters. he was more about nothing matters so you might as well build your own system of morals and act upon it. and that's Rust.
I'm sorry but are you a christcuck or something, because Marty was the amoral one, his good ole boy masquerade was empty and most of his life he spent in a decidedly shitty way that clearly spoke of him being the nihilist. Rust is emotionally devastated the entire show but his words and actions spoke of a deep, genuine connection to humanity. It's Rust that believed religion wasn't necessary for people to remain morally good, and Rust maintained an interest in the case for 17 years, while Marty went off and did frickall, it was Marty that cheated on his wife repeatedly and it was Marty that abused suspects and also Marty that blew the case the one time he decided to feel something by blowing Ledoux's fricking face off, and then Rust that covered for him because he genuinely cared about him. How was Rust the nihilist, ever?
Sorry, but you are a fricking idiot. Rust literally called people "sentient meat". You have no idea what the frick you're talking about.
>emotionally devastated the entire show
He was driven solely by his work which, outside of it, he felt completely ambivalent about "humanity" and "good", and thought that the deaths of all those people who had been murdered were done a service/favor in being released from their prisons and their fears.
Oh well Rust said something so clearly I shouldn't have analyzed his actions farther than his statements your mean-spirited vicious response certainly proves me wrong oh wait it doesn't little christcuck. Seethe all you want. Actions speak louder than words.
>Christcuck
Not a Christian, but nice strawman attempt at deflection.
>Actions speak louder than words.
Yea, don't they? You give Rust the excuse of his actions and then condemn Marty for his more emotionally driven actions without analyzing the merit of eithers character because you see in Rust what you want to see rather than what is. Since you get butt-flustered at someone calling a spade a spade over a fictional TV character, then here, I'll just leave this here. Argument over.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ah Wikipedia said it, it must be true. Answer my question. Rust's actions proved he wasn't a nihilist. He wore the skin of one while Marty was the opposite.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Self-deception in favor of a world-view that helps you cope with your own sad beliefs is not my job. I've already stated my point.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>sad beliefs
Lol nothing is sad about Rust rejecting nihilism. You are so bad at this. I'm sure here's a YouTuber somewhere you can watch to try and figure things out.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>rejecting nihilism
He does at the end, but throughout the show he is shown to be nihilistic. It's a little thing we like to call a "character arc".
3 months ago
Anonymous
No, he consistently rejects nihilism, at least to some extent, the entire time. He and Marty ultimately both do. But even at the start its clear Rust and Marty are both in their own ways full of shit.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>he consistently doesn't
Mmmhmmm, tell me more about what he does Mr Trollman. Does he also fly into outer space and battle Xiquans from Toktor?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Lmao OK I will, we meet Rust at his absolute lowest but even early he he espouses significant faith in humans without even realizing it, distinctly not nihilistic. His conversation about religion with Marty is absolutely not a nihilistic view. It is an early indication he's deeper than being some guy who learns not to be a nihilist. Meanwhile it is Marty that says "it'd be a frickin freakshow of murder and debauchery", while also defending the people in the crowd rust was criticizing. Even that early on its clear rust isn't just some edgelord with true edgelord beliefs.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Marty that says "it'd be a frickin freakshow of murder and debauchery", while also defending the people in the crowd rust was criticizing
That's not nihilism, that's misanthropy.
>His conversation about religion with Marty is absolutely not a nihilistic view. It is an early indication he's deeper than being some guy who learns not to be a nihilist.
Because you're only looking at the view of him criticizing religion, and ignoring the fact that he said religion is a coping mechanism inserting delusions of grandeur into people who are otherwise solely driven by their innate biological functions with no higher functioning possibility in the matter.
Marty points out during their argument that he sounds panicked, like he's trying to attack religion because it centers on hope, while the entire show, until the end when he feels he was wrong, he has been stating how hopeless life ultimately is and that the idea of being a "person" is none other than a dream stitched together through all your fears, joys, successes, and failures.
He is absolutely a nihilist, you just lack the understanding of nihilism to realize it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I interprted those statements as his battle with nihilism not him truly meaning it. I simply don't agree he was truly a nihilist at any point.
3 months ago
Anonymous
He may have been ultimately using nihilism as a coping mechanism for the loss of his daughter, but that doesn't mean it doesn't count.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I think to at least some extent it does, because he says a lot of bullshit and so does Marty, but they don't clearly believe in all the things they say. These characters are not that simple and this show is not Sherlock and I do not believe if Rust were truly that grim about things he'd have stalked that cult for 17 fricking years when absolutely no one else did. That alone indicates many of the things he said shouldn't be taken at their face.
Right on, but I think Marty had the same revelation Rust did, that he wasn't really this uncaring person. Both lost their families by very different means but that was the catalyst for both to begin these arcs of redemption and personal rediscovery.
I've always seen Marty and Rust as inversions of each other of a sorts where Rust starts as this edgelord who acts like he doesn't care but he's clearly experiencing an emotional breakdown and feels very different from how he acts and Marty is the more charismatic and likable one that seems to care about others but deep down has fewer things he genuinely values and believes in than Rust.
based, these dumbass virgins don't know how good they have it. it's so annoying having a clingy gf always wanting to spend time with you. do women and virgies not understand the concept of alone time?
I used to go out with my buddy from the factory and my friends from schools where I grew up, take drugs and see rock bands. Now I'm married and live like 2000 miles away from them so I just drink and tell my kids not to fight while I post on Cinemaphile because I'm the only income earner so my c**t wife (she's actually pretty based) can do the heavy lifting here.
I used to go out somewhat regularly before covid but that all stopped. Most of my friends have jad kids or moved away since then so i don't know either. I usually go to the gym
Adult virgins romanticize sex and girlfriends because they think it improve their shitty lives but the truth is they've never actually interacted or lived with a woman so they don't know how vapid they are and how they drain the fun out of everything. I'd much rather jack off and not have sex if it meant I didn't have to put up with my girlfriend wanting to watch some boring movies for the rest of the night.
>32 >have no friends, kissless virgin >go to a humiliating job where I've wasted my most important career building years in what amounts to a job that's just there to waste time >live with my mommy and daddy, just pay them rent from my shitty job to keep money in the family >don't even drive a car, just get around with my bicycle, subway, and/or carpooling with people for the one activity/hobby i do >all i think about is suicide and hope one day i overcome the fear and get it done
even a life like rust's would be an improvement for me
To do what with? Be in the same place you are now but having a bigger bank account, of which you would inevitably lose it all gambling on some investment, spending on more toys, or letting rot until you die and it all becomes unnecessary anyway?
And then what, when you finally attain your dream car? You going to take it out for a drive here and there? Wax it a couple times, let it sit your garage, until you get tired of it and sell it?
Adult male virgins creep me out and I'm a male in my 30's. They give off the same desperate aura that childless women at that age do. What's wrong with these types of people?
I became a wizard so I started reading romance novels as a proxy. I feel all warm and fuzzy when I see two characters I like finally get together. Sometimes I look up the endings to make sure nothing upsetting happens. I've dropped some books because I found out they had a tragic ending where the leads didn't get together or one on them died
It used to be until they sent up all home to work because of the lockdown and now I haven't had a job in a month and I need that comfy WFH lifestyle back asap
I'm gay and have the best life possible >work part-time consulting gig, make a little over 70k with just 20 hours a week >boyfriend comes home from work, I have dinner made and we hang out >give him a blowjob and he typically goes to sleep right after >playing vidya until 1 in the morning since he's passed out in bed
It's fricking amazing. I love being a twink. I don't even know why most of you would want to put up with a chick
go home, shitpost on Cinemaphile till bed
i dont go to work
same
>just go play vidya, go sleep
I don't go to work
I want post on the r/9k
?t=23
Past a certain age, a man without a frequented board can be a BAD thing.
for me? it's Cinemaphile and Cinemaphile, though Cinemaphile is kinda shit now
I can't even use /k/ anymore because they ban you immediately if you don't absurdly worship the American military and government
>Cinemaphile
so your a computer expert? What's a good omegle type website, I need to visit it for reasons
goatse.cx
>This was seen as a out of the ordinary, sad lifestyle in 2014
>out of the ordinary sad lifestyle
No, it was trying to portray a nihilistic feeling of pointlessness about the mundanity of it all. It also pointed to the nature of the show's first season, which was the battle over man's search for purpose and whether or not it was worth it in the end, represented in the Yellow King, and answered somewhat in how Rust went from being a nihilist atheist to having a spec of hope about mortality and the existence of a higher understanding about the universe beyond what was immediately visible to the human eye.
Rust was never nihilistic, he was always the optimist between the two leads. Marty was significantly more nihilistic than Rust.
>the entire human race should kill itself
Rust is, verbatim, per the series creator's own words, a personification of his own battle with nihilism.
Yes rust personifies the BATTLE, not the condition itself. And Rust is depressed the entire show because his family is dead but it is Rust that is decidedly not, at his core, a nihilist. He never was a nihilist.
nietzschean flavor of nihilism is the struggle. in face of modern world old traditions are fading and there is no clear purpose so you should make your own.
Rust never lost his sense of purpose, he surrendered his badge but at his core is a moral upstanding righteous lawman and I mean that unironically, he drove the reverend to fricking suicide by breaking into his house during the timeskip and he did that because he always knew what was right. Marty opened a private security company and Rust spend SEVENTEEN YEARS slowly accumulating his psycho storage unit of schizoshit, all to stop the cult or do what he could.
Nothing about Rust was ever nihilistic.
and that's where unwarranted patch of absolute nihilism is attached to Nietzsche. he's schtick wasn't that nothing matters so nothing you do matters. he was more about nothing matters so you might as well build your own system of morals and act upon it. and that's Rust.
I'm sorry but are you a christcuck or something, because Marty was the amoral one, his good ole boy masquerade was empty and most of his life he spent in a decidedly shitty way that clearly spoke of him being the nihilist. Rust is emotionally devastated the entire show but his words and actions spoke of a deep, genuine connection to humanity. It's Rust that believed religion wasn't necessary for people to remain morally good, and Rust maintained an interest in the case for 17 years, while Marty went off and did frickall, it was Marty that cheated on his wife repeatedly and it was Marty that abused suspects and also Marty that blew the case the one time he decided to feel something by blowing Ledoux's fricking face off, and then Rust that covered for him because he genuinely cared about him. How was Rust the nihilist, ever?
>one statement confirms a character's entire being
Jesus Christ at least try, please. Holy shit.
>you're a christcuck
I'm a pagan.
Sorry, but you are a fricking idiot. Rust literally called people "sentient meat". You have no idea what the frick you're talking about.
>emotionally devastated the entire show
He was driven solely by his work which, outside of it, he felt completely ambivalent about "humanity" and "good", and thought that the deaths of all those people who had been murdered were done a service/favor in being released from their prisons and their fears.
Oh well Rust said something so clearly I shouldn't have analyzed his actions farther than his statements your mean-spirited vicious response certainly proves me wrong oh wait it doesn't little christcuck. Seethe all you want. Actions speak louder than words.
Holy frick dude
What about Rust's ACTIONS spoke of nihilism, and not his personal struggle with it? Rust consistently proved he wasn't a nihilist.
>Christcuck
Not a Christian, but nice strawman attempt at deflection.
>Actions speak louder than words.
Yea, don't they? You give Rust the excuse of his actions and then condemn Marty for his more emotionally driven actions without analyzing the merit of eithers character because you see in Rust what you want to see rather than what is. Since you get butt-flustered at someone calling a spade a spade over a fictional TV character, then here, I'll just leave this here. Argument over.
Ah Wikipedia said it, it must be true. Answer my question. Rust's actions proved he wasn't a nihilist. He wore the skin of one while Marty was the opposite.
Self-deception in favor of a world-view that helps you cope with your own sad beliefs is not my job. I've already stated my point.
>sad beliefs
Lol nothing is sad about Rust rejecting nihilism. You are so bad at this. I'm sure here's a YouTuber somewhere you can watch to try and figure things out.
>rejecting nihilism
He does at the end, but throughout the show he is shown to be nihilistic. It's a little thing we like to call a "character arc".
No, he consistently rejects nihilism, at least to some extent, the entire time. He and Marty ultimately both do. But even at the start its clear Rust and Marty are both in their own ways full of shit.
>he consistently doesn't
Mmmhmmm, tell me more about what he does Mr Trollman. Does he also fly into outer space and battle Xiquans from Toktor?
Lmao OK I will, we meet Rust at his absolute lowest but even early he he espouses significant faith in humans without even realizing it, distinctly not nihilistic. His conversation about religion with Marty is absolutely not a nihilistic view. It is an early indication he's deeper than being some guy who learns not to be a nihilist. Meanwhile it is Marty that says "it'd be a frickin freakshow of murder and debauchery", while also defending the people in the crowd rust was criticizing. Even that early on its clear rust isn't just some edgelord with true edgelord beliefs.
>Marty that says "it'd be a frickin freakshow of murder and debauchery", while also defending the people in the crowd rust was criticizing
That's not nihilism, that's misanthropy.
>His conversation about religion with Marty is absolutely not a nihilistic view. It is an early indication he's deeper than being some guy who learns not to be a nihilist.
Because you're only looking at the view of him criticizing religion, and ignoring the fact that he said religion is a coping mechanism inserting delusions of grandeur into people who are otherwise solely driven by their innate biological functions with no higher functioning possibility in the matter.
Marty points out during their argument that he sounds panicked, like he's trying to attack religion because it centers on hope, while the entire show, until the end when he feels he was wrong, he has been stating how hopeless life ultimately is and that the idea of being a "person" is none other than a dream stitched together through all your fears, joys, successes, and failures.
He is absolutely a nihilist, you just lack the understanding of nihilism to realize it.
I interprted those statements as his battle with nihilism not him truly meaning it. I simply don't agree he was truly a nihilist at any point.
He may have been ultimately using nihilism as a coping mechanism for the loss of his daughter, but that doesn't mean it doesn't count.
I think to at least some extent it does, because he says a lot of bullshit and so does Marty, but they don't clearly believe in all the things they say. These characters are not that simple and this show is not Sherlock and I do not believe if Rust were truly that grim about things he'd have stalked that cult for 17 fricking years when absolutely no one else did. That alone indicates many of the things he said shouldn't be taken at their face.
Right on, but I think Marty had the same revelation Rust did, that he wasn't really this uncaring person. Both lost their families by very different means but that was the catalyst for both to begin these arcs of redemption and personal rediscovery.
I've always seen Marty and Rust as inversions of each other of a sorts where Rust starts as this edgelord who acts like he doesn't care but he's clearly experiencing an emotional breakdown and feels very different from how he acts and Marty is the more charismatic and likable one that seems to care about others but deep down has fewer things he genuinely values and believes in than Rust.
i don't have to leave home for work
head to /LULZ/
it's worse
Gfs are a meme. I'm being serious, you have sex and then you have to be around here still. Just wank
i have a gf and i'm so over it she's clingy and annoying as frick i honestly miss dating
Women are easy to drive away with some rude/inconsiderate behavior. Remember, if you are truly sick of the stew, piss in the kettle.
>clingy
dude, that's all I want
based, these dumbass virgins don't know how good they have it. it's so annoying having a clingy gf always wanting to spend time with you. do women and virgies not understand the concept of alone time?
it's friday night and i genuinely don't know what normal people do. i just sit at home.
I used to go out with my buddy from the factory and my friends from schools where I grew up, take drugs and see rock bands. Now I'm married and live like 2000 miles away from them so I just drink and tell my kids not to fight while I post on Cinemaphile because I'm the only income earner so my c**t wife (she's actually pretty based) can do the heavy lifting here.
I used to go out somewhat regularly before covid but that all stopped. Most of my friends have jad kids or moved away since then so i don't know either. I usually go to the gym
I couldn't even tell you the last time I went out. At least 5 years, well over 10 years since I went out with friends.
why do you want a gf?
Adult virgins romanticize sex and girlfriends because they think it improve their shitty lives but the truth is they've never actually interacted or lived with a woman so they don't know how vapid they are and how they drain the fun out of everything. I'd much rather jack off and not have sex if it meant I didn't have to put up with my girlfriend wanting to watch some boring movies for the rest of the night.
this is all true, but at the same time I feel lonely sometimes.
Yeah. I don't even go to work.
How do you guys neetmax?
>32
>have no friends, kissless virgin
>go to a humiliating job where I've wasted my most important career building years in what amounts to a job that's just there to waste time
>live with my mommy and daddy, just pay them rent from my shitty job to keep money in the family
>don't even drive a car, just get around with my bicycle, subway, and/or carpooling with people for the one activity/hobby i do
>all i think about is suicide and hope one day i overcome the fear and get it done
even a life like rust's would be an improvement for me
i would be in a much better place career-wise if i ignored pussy and would have a shit ton more money
>and I would have a shit ton more money
To do what with? Be in the same place you are now but having a bigger bank account, of which you would inevitably lose it all gambling on some investment, spending on more toys, or letting rot until you die and it all becomes unnecessary anyway?
i really want a Japanese 1990's-2000's import and they are crazy expensive
>inb4 weeb
you bet your ass
And then what, when you finally attain your dream car? You going to take it out for a drive here and there? Wax it a couple times, let it sit your garage, until you get tired of it and sell it?
It's just another form of pussy.
hopefully pull asian chicks or something to stuff the dead end hole i have from my soulless corpo job
for one without a ton of work around 200k and then another 20k or so to get it imported and shit
>for one without a ton of work around 200k and then another 20k or so to get it imported and shit
FRICK THAT
Despite weebshit, I do respect quality automobiles.
What's the estimate?
uh, yes? what about it, female?
Adult male virgins creep me out and I'm a male in my 30's. They give off the same desperate aura that childless women at that age do. What's wrong with these types of people?
how do you know they are virgins?
They want to frick your hag butt.
I became a wizard so I started reading romance novels as a proxy. I feel all warm and fuzzy when I see two characters I like finally get together. Sometimes I look up the endings to make sure nothing upsetting happens. I've dropped some books because I found out they had a tragic ending where the leads didn't get together or one on them died
grim
He found a shred of solace, don't pick on him.
Modern book covers are so fricking shit and soulless. How did we get to this point?
No I work from home.
It's no girlfriend, just turn 30 degrees to my work setup, and then turn 30 degrees back to my personal setup after work.
Yep. Been doing it since 2017 when I left the Army.
>34
>Live with parents
>Make $45k a year(Australian)
>No friends
>No gf
>No kids
>Alcoholic
I honestly didnt realise 6 years had gone by until the other week. Fricking israelites.
It used to be until they sent up all home to work because of the lockdown and now I haven't had a job in a month and I need that comfy WFH lifestyle back asap
I'm gay and have the best life possible
>work part-time consulting gig, make a little over 70k with just 20 hours a week
>boyfriend comes home from work, I have dinner made and we hang out
>give him a blowjob and he typically goes to sleep right after
>playing vidya until 1 in the morning since he's passed out in bed
It's fricking amazing. I love being a twink. I don't even know why most of you would want to put up with a chick