it's very rare to find a girl you genuinely find funny or interesting who you also aren't attracted to. It's like the reverse unicorn or something. Guys who say anything else are simps or hangers on and women who say otherwise are either moronic or lying attention prostitutes.
You can be attracted to a woman without trying to get in her pants and it happens every day in the professional world with platonic relationships. You thinking everything has to lead up to intercourse is a problem with your own degeneracy. You do however need to watch out for
No, they just want potential backups.
and to have the social awareness of knowing why each person is deciding to have you in their lives.
>You can be attracted to a woman without trying to get in her pants and it happens every day in the professional world with platonic relationships
t. gay
>it's very rare to find a girl you genuinely find funny or interesting who you also aren't attracted to. It's like the reverse unicorn or something
This is true if you assume she is at least decent looking. Because it's not that rare to find a funny interesting fat chick.
A good personality consists of a chick with a little hard body, who will satisfy all sexual demands without being too loose about things, and who essentially will keep her dumb fricking mouth shut.
Personally, I sometimes like being friends with ugly girls. There is no sexual tension on my part. It's like being friends with a particularly incompetent male who has a nose for gossip.
I have one female friend like you’ve described and I do no expect to find a relationship like this again because as you’ve said it’s so incredibly rare. We’re not sexually attracted to each other because we’re not each other’s types, we’ve known each other for more than a decade and nothing ever happened even when we lived together for some time. She’s one of three people in the world aside from parents I can completely trust.
I’m very proud to have this person in my life and wish you all a friend like this, a friend who’s been tested by bad times and helped you when you needed it the most. Shame it’s so rare.
When I was young and naive I used to think that female friends would help me get a girlfriend. Like it will give me an advantage trying to date her friends. Then I grew up and realized that if anything it makes it harder because women look down on men who have a lot of female friends. They view you as a beta and just wonder why the woman you're friends with won't date you.
in my experience its the female "friend" just gatekeeping pussy from you, I met this one girl at uni who used to date my cousin and we hit it off, she was fairly attractive but the thought of having my moronic cousins sloppy seconds turned me off so I never pursued her, every fricking time I asked her to introduce me to one of her hot friends she'd tell me "oh she wasn't interested" or something and I believed her until one of said friends approached me once in the library all flirty and shit and I asked her out and she said yes, i asked her on the second date why she wasn't interested initially. >what do you mean anon?
well I asked my friend if she could introduce me and you said no. >wtf that never happened
so yeah my "friend" was lying to me the whole time, and I want to emphasise there was absolutely nothing romantic vibe between the 2 of us, she was literally just a dude to me and she never gave me any signals that she wanted me like that.
That "friend" of yours deserves to be shot. Not killed, necessarily, but she should experience having a potentially lethal firearm discharged disdainfully into her meat.
Most of my female friends are my buddies' long time gfs/wives with stable relationships.
They're great at keeping taps on social stuff and group dynamics. Believe me, they're way more sensitive about it then guys are. Helps me a lot when I need to know which of my friends are in trouble but putting on a brave face. Also great at detecting red flags and so forth in other women.
Just don't expect them to engage the same practical topics as guys are. Keep an open mind and cultivate platonic relationship with a few. Might might learn a thing or two even if you might dismiss it as inane bullshit.
Depends what you're into, I don't like sportsball or other shit like obscure indi music that men talk about so I found the company of women much more enjoyable.
And you can frick them of course.
I'm not convinced anybody actually wants to be friends with anybody else. Most of the time friendship is just a state of convenience to be able to tolerate having other people in your presence on a habitual basis. Yeah, some people spike their social circles to the moon as though they're collecting stamps or something, you know fifty for every country they travel to, but I don't even begin to consider those meaningful relationships.
I pretty much gave up on friends. I'm very affable and make friends easily but I'm married and prefer my wife's company most of the time.
Most people just aren't worth being friends with.
This. I have had 2 former co-workerswomen try to strike up some kind of friendship literally years after we last saw each other. Frick off I'm not being your security blanket, find a moron to rescue you from your shitty relationships/life and raise your kids. Not fricking interested.
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Anyway women are fricking evil and manipulative. Ever been somewhere you can hear women talk amongst themselves when they think no guys are around? It's fricking disgusting. Pure insect talk.
That’s how I got redpilled. A chick was gettin married and she said something like “it’s my first marriage so might as well go all out”. Really disgusting prostitutes.
I'm not convinced anybody actually wants to be friends with anybody else. Most of the time friendship is just a state of convenience to be able to tolerate having other people in your presence on a habitual basis. Yeah, some people spike their social circles to the moon as though they're collecting stamps or something, you know fifty for every country they travel to, but I don't even begin to consider those meaningful relationships.
What is friendship? You just talk about the same shit. Complain. Share your life story. Make some jokes. Why?
Waste of.time in the end. Are they going to back you up if shit hits the fan? Would they house you for a few years if you fell on hard times? If you were convicted of a disgraceful crime?
No? Then you are just like a little child with his "fwends" in the playground playing tag you're it
The only People worth investing in really are close family, partner and children
>What is friendship? You just talk about the same shit. Complain. Share your life story. Make some jokes.
Well I don't really share my life's story with most of them since they've been around for most of it, but yeah. Human social interaction. >Why?
Humans are social creatures. >Waste of.time in the end. Are they going to back you up if shit hits the fan? Would they house you for a few years if you fell on hard times? If you were convicted of a disgraceful crime?
Not sure about the disgraceful crime thing, hasn't happened. We've definitely been there for each other through hard times. I'm not a big fan of unconditional friendship where you support someone doing evil shit so I guess it would depend if we thought each other were innocent of crimes. >No? Then you are just like a little child with his "fwends" in the playground playing tag you're it
Nothing wrong with more shallow social relationships for recreation, although those definitely aren't deep friendships. They can certainly develop into those with the right people. >The only People worth investing in really are close family, partner and children
Mostly true. Some of my family is worth investing in, some isn't. Some non family non partners I know are closer than all but my brother.
Lots of people having shitty relationships is no excuse for your inability to find good friends to connect with. If you don't want to waste time with more shallow acquaintances, that's fine, but it's no different than spending time watching movies or any other recreational activity
Yeah, I had a female friend for like 10 years. She used to talk how I should,'ve fricked her or start dating her all the time but when I actually got drunk and started groping her, she freaked out and ghosted me.
I mean, we were staying in a motel and sleeping on one bed after 6 hours drive of talking about relationships and fetishes. I never really wanted to be with her, but sometimes your ball just take over.
She was trying to tell you that when you first met you were in the zone where you two could have fricked or been in a relationship or just be friends. It's a window that only stays open for a short period of time. You went the friends route and ended up in the friendzone which basically makes you like a brother to her and she doesn't want to frick her brother so what you did was weird at that point. You shoot your shot early into meeting someone and then pivot if it doesn't work out.
But why do women get so pissed off when their male friends want to ask them out?
Wouldn't you rather have a guy who you know and trust be your bf over a guy you don't know?
the problem is that women view their friends as their equals, and women HATE dating their equal. It's also why you should never treat women like equals no matter how much feminists say they want it.
I had an old man tell me one time that "If you want to understand women, you have to hate them first", even as a kid I was like "I don't know about all that man".
You know how you treat children? That's not malicious or mean, but it's not equal. Move your treatment of women in the direction of you treatment of kids, just nowhere near as far. Just enough to dip the needle below equal.
>But why do women get so pissed off when their male friends want to ask them out?.
Because it removes "plausible deniability" and the woman is forced to confront the issue. She can't pretend anymore and say, "Oh he doesn't like me! He's just a friend." Her plausible deniability shield is gone now.
>Wouldn't you rather have a guy who you know and trust be your bf over a guy you don't know?
Because she wanted to keep guy friend as a potential option. Like a moon orbiting around her planet. Not upgrade them to Boyfriend status just yet (if ever). And if it ever did happen, she wanted to make The decision. Not you. She wanted you to sit quietly and just pretend to be her friend until she was ready for more. You weren't supposed to confess your feelings and ruin the romance game.
It's basically a mixed feeling of losing her plausible deniability shield/being forced to make a choice/losing a potential orbiter friend (even if she says yes or no). Boyfriends never get downgraded to Friends once it happens. They only become ex's
Women want to be chased by multiple guys and fought over. It makes them feel special and unique. It's their dream romance. Then they choose one guy to be the chosen one.
>Women want to be chased by multiple guys and fought over. It makes them feel special and unique. It's their dream romance. Then they choose one guy to be the chosen one.
i've noticed even the hyper liberal feminist women are like this. they think a constant stream of frick boys looking to hook up in their 20s means there will be a constant stream of husband material men in their 30s so they play the field and soak up the attention until one day its all gone and its never coming back and the men they were getting attention from dont even remember them. pretty bleak
>Boyfriends never get downgraded to Friends once it happens. They only become ex's
My ex and I are each other's closest friends and there's nothing else, in either direction. We've been friends longer than we dated by now.
I'd frick her sure, but I'd frick a potato sack with the right curves.
>My ex and I are each other's closest friends and there's nothing else, in either direction. We've been friends longer than we dated by now. >I'd frick her sure, but I'd frick a potato sack with the right curves.
Then you aren't friends. You can never go back to what you had before you were in a relationship.
Fantastic post. Additionally, women want as many men to do ""emotional labor"" for them as they can, but only one dude will get boyfriend privliges in return. The rest operate as a one way street for their benefit.
Imagine you found out one of your male friends secretly wanted to frick you the whole time and that's why they were friends with you. It's creepy and gross, that's how women see you when you try that shit
You won't do shit pussy KEK there are gay bars in your city you could go to right now if you wanted to pick a fight. You won't cause you know you'd get your head stomped on lmfao
No they want partners and potential backup partners and enablers. By all means commit to normal friendly relations with foids at work but never ever in a million years do anything for them, they don't care and don't return favors and don't view it as an equal arrangement, they just take whatever and do nothing in return.
doesn't apply to me, I'm 6" fit and blue eyed and I guarantee you would never want to just be friends because of my appearance
unless you mean in terms of the mentality that women are deranged children, in which case yes, chud away all you like
women only want to be "friends" with men they find undesirable, but if she wants to frick and you don't she'll ghost your ass faster than you can blink.
I hung out with this one girl a couple times recently. I thought it was going cool, I told her she was really cute and she laughed and shit. Whatever. Then out of nowhere she tells me she is kinda seeing someone. I'm like cool and I start to create distance. Only problem is that the girl keeps texting me like almost every day. Texting me good morning and shit. But when I try to put moves she just tells me to shut up. Wtf is up bros?
She likes both you and the other guy, but the other guy more. She’s breadcrumbing you with attention as she doesn’t want you to move on to another girl. She will keep you as an option but never truly act on it, but at the same time likely flip out if you were to move on.
Ghost her til her texts become desperate and angry. Then deliver a short, curt rejecting message, like just send her "Nope", and resume ghosting forever and delete her number kek.
i am autistic and have preferred being friends with women because they are less likely to tease me. that being said, eventually all of my women friends have propositioned me for sex or made it clear they wanted a relationship. for clarification here, women mistake me for "mysterious" when in actuality i am just tall, introverted and when i do speak i just talked about whatever wikipedia articles i read that day
what the frick do you think i do? computer shit of course.
genuine "i dont actually want pussy" -autism is great for getting women if u interact with them on the long term since it drives them insecure about themselves
almost all the women have been very polite and ambiguous in soliciting sex. i have had 3 friendships end due to saying no. i have had several horrible experiences with female acquaintances that did not like hearing no for answer.
No, they just want potential backups.
its fine to be friends with a woman keeping you around as a backup. just say politely say "no thank you, i appreciate your friendship but i dont see anything beyond that for us.' when she tries to cash in on her investment
genuine "i dont actually want pussy" -autism is great for getting women if u interact with them on the long term since it drives them insecure about themselves
I end up having sex with my female friends and it ends in disaster, for me. I'm happier being a social recluse. They're all vaxxed anyway and I can't stand using condoms. I don't want mystery Bill Gates DNA running around my blood.
If it’s a sitcom style friend group, then I guess it’s ok but you should be on alert. If it’s just Mike and John who she still talks to and hangs out with, that’s unacceptable (not that you can say it)
I ended a 9 year frienship with a girl when she started coming onto me and I rejected her pretty badly. I was put off by it but then i started to consider maybe this could work and next time we met I tried to make a couple moves and she in turn rejected me. Fricking horrid lads I still remember that walk back home when I realized I dont ever want to see that girl again and finally took the redpill misogyny cape and embraced inceldom.
She did end up trying to text me a few times afterwards but holy shit theres no going back from that mess.
men >dude I'm tired of dealing with women, i hate them and their bullshit so much
also men >WHAT? THAT GUY IS A VIRGIN?? WHAT A FRICKING moron LOL HOW CAN YOU BE A VIRGIN AT THIS DAY AND AGE FRICK OFF INCEL
pussy is like meth, not even once. you can't miss what you've never had. I cant wait until they start getting raped in public by pajeets. you get what you fricking deserve. dudes that are obsessed with other dudes sex lifes are bonafide butt pirates.
sure, that's why you people complain about getting one-night stands too >UGH for real I just wanted to get my dick wet and she makes me jump through hoops and shit and now she won't leave me be UGH the normie life is so hard
>missing the point this hard
Let me explain to you into words you can actually process:
the same men who get laid and are tired of women's shit are also the ones who shame other men for being sexually unsuccessful aka men who are explicitly not involved in the bullshit women like to involve men in
>gf is hanging out with her single male friend at night at his place not replying to messages >comes back tipsy, tell her this behavior is not ok >tells me she is upset that I don’t trust her and she’s allowed her own night life
It’s all so tiresome
I had a lot of female friends when I was a kid/teenager. I moved back to my hometown for a year during Covid and wound up running into a bunch of them and they all admitted they had crushes on me and a couple even asked why I never made a move but I genuinely didn't even know they liked me. It ruins it for me in hindsight because we had fun and I thought they were just cool chicks but the whole time they were eyeing up my schlong and only hung out with me because they thought I was attractive.
I can’t put into words how afraid women are of rejection. Even if they like you it’s just not worth the risk of being rejected and destroying their self worth. If they do tell you they like you it’s extremely rare and are probably in love with you if they do.
I had a female friend I had a crush on for a year. when i made my move she politely rejected me but insisted we stayed close as friends
I distanced myself for a while but started talking to her again eventually
now I have a gf and she's never been more chatty with me than now
women are fricking vile
They don't like nerdy shit. They don't really understand life or survival. Most men don't either tbh but a few do.
My girlfriend is great but would I hang around with her if our relationship wasn't romantic? Idk. Probably not. Unless there's physical affection then a woman is really just an annoying, weak and more stupid male
Friends in general are for idiotic NPC's come to think of it. If you want a good conversation just go on forums
There’s a girl at work (remote), who is obsessed with me. I politely turned her down, you know “I think you’re a wonderful person too, but I can’t do the long distance thing, etc.”. Now she’s acting like she’s my gf, but what I really wanted to say was it’s too much fricking work for no sex. I don’t want to chat and flirt at night after work. I don’t want to hear you vent and tell you you’re right and everything’s going to be ok. I just want to get drunk and play video games
Yes. Some men and women at first do not connect sexually at all, there's no chemistry but there is mutual sympathy at a conversational level. Ironically, that often leads to marriages and long-lasting, happy ones at that
>exiting your residence magically makes women intelligent, responsible, sensible, and gives them a newfound sense of accountability and genuine empathy.
Dude, really? Touch gaming chair, lmao.
They're turbo traps who actually love covk insteead of pretend to. If you're not superfit and don't thus have a huge sex drrive and dick you shouldn't annoy women. They want dick all the time.
This post really highlights the fact you don't know what the frick you're talking about. Women are more interested in what the dick is attached to. Hair, face and money will get you far more pussy than a big dick will
>fact
Just because you keep saying something is a fact doesn't make it a fact. It's not like women are waiting outside the grocery store hollering at men cause they want some dick. Do people want to have good sex frequently? Yeah, no shit. Show me someone who doesn't want that. Doesn't mean they're gonna go tackle and frick some nobody.
8 months ago
Anonymous
why would they? they just boot Tinder or something and get their breathing dildo to come (and cum) to their house on demand
You seem very angry for some reason
8 months ago
Anonymous
NTA but he's just being emphatic while you are quite clearlyl sexually inexperienced. It doesn't work like that and women's sexual desire isn't that one-note
8 months ago
Anonymous
>realistically explain how a woman's sex drive works >"v-v-virgin!"
huh. are you a woman? is that why you are so mad?
8 months ago
Anonymous
No I'm not but you are 100% not just a male virgin but also someone w/little experience/intimacy w/ women in general.
8 months ago
Anonymous
yup, it's a woman alright.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Goes to show how much you know women
8 months ago
Anonymous
I know enough about them to make them seethe at me and call me incel
protip: when a woman calls you a virgin, you've done something to upset them
Easiest way to upset a woman? Speak the truth.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Speak the truth.
Your shut-in assumptions do not necessarily reflect the truth you know
8 months ago
Anonymous
you know you've done nothing to prove me wrong, no?
8 months ago
Anonymous
I don't have to, not least bc your "well-known fact" mentioned above wasn't sourced to begin with.
Women's horniness fluctuates: many women are sexless, some prefer masturbation to sex etc. The Tinder demographic isn't representative and bawds/nymphomaniacs are a fringe
8 months ago
Anonymous
>e-e-e-every person is different!
so this is the power of a hole's reasoning skills lmao >I-I-I told you I'm not a g-g-girl!
a hole defender is as, if not more, pathetic than a hole herself. Women are by nature moronic, you have no excuse.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Again: your incel rants and generalizations are detached from real life
8 months ago
Anonymous
>your wrong! >how? >omg you can't be serious!
8 months ago
Anonymous
You're repeating inane "all women are sex freaks" incel flights of fancy while asking others for proof that reality is much more layered, something which rl experience will abundantly show
8 months ago
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see
>e-e-e-every person is different!
so this is the power of a hole's reasoning skills lmao >I-I-I told you I'm not a g-g-girl!
a hole defender is as, if not more, pathetic than a hole herself. Women are by nature moronic, you have no excuse.
c**t lmao
8 months ago
Anonymous
Women aren't angels but incel imaginary rants are often the result of inexperience and assuming that women are prostitutes who frick all the time
8 months ago
Anonymous
do you have evidence to the contrary?
8 months ago
Anonymous
It doesn't work like that. It's up to you to prove your "all women are sex maniacs who frick all the time" premise.
8 months ago
Anonymous
my evidence is you fuming at the mere hint that women like sex better than men and want to have it more often than them too
your turn
well, 'friends' is a nebulous nonsense word for kids. They're actually fellow students, and in adult life they are family, co-workers, collaborators, colleagues, you know, SOMETHING not a pointless, nebulous, wishy-washy nonsense relationship no longer 'enforced' by daily meeting at a place you fricking hate to get lectured at by extremely incompetent and socially awkward adults who have either been doing it far too long and are geriatric or couldn't find a job in a bank after they graduated, opting not to be a doctor, lawyer, or historian or something, then failing to make it as a college professor, even a fricking community college teacher? Pure underachievers 'herding cats' as it were in a system designed by 1900s fricking robber barons to funnel moron kids into factory work.
Yeah, those aren't friends. Those are fellow inmates.
Friendship is also transitional. You might have a 'best friend' from childhood but if you're still regularly hanging out for more than five or six years? Dude, that's not a friend. That's chosen family. That's your brother or sister.
Men and women are incompatible as ever as is, just take a look at this thread. I'm convinced at least 50% of people resent their partner and to a lesser extent their friends regardless of their sex.
>Women and men can't be friends
But when I see people that are functioning and have actual vibrant social lives they have friends of both sexes. This is normal, but just because you're around a girl doesn't mean that she's going to have romantic or sexual feelings towards you, you can be mutual.
But yeah, I agree with GoT, if you haven't had sex, you have kissed a girl, hugged one, or even held their hand, that's not a good thing. There's something wrong with someone who doesn't have any attraction or interest from the opposite sex in some way. There has to be a partner out there for someone, but the harsh reality is that sometimes there's not. But none of these things will come until you do something about it, and self improvement being the first and most important thing.
>if you haven't had sex, you have kissed a girl, hugged one, or even held their hand, that's not a good thing
Source? I can say the opposite. If you have sexual relations with men or women you are making yourself unhappy for no reason (nobody died without sex but millions have died because of it)
I don't need to give you some article or some other bullshit for you to realize that it's not normal or healthy. > If you have sexual relations with men or women you are making yourself unhappy for no reason
Bullshit, having a sex life is part of being a healthy person.
You don't have sex, but you're trying to argue with me so incase I slip up you can use it as an attempt to be superior, but you're really coping. I have the same problems, but from the outside looking in I've learned a lot.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Have you not seen how unhappy people who have to deal with women are? How sex brings out the worst in people? Are you blind or deaf or something?
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Have you not seen how unhappy people who have to deal with women are
Seem fine to me. >How sex brings out the worst in people
LMAO, no. >Are you blind or deaf or something?
No but I'm sure you're fricking clueless.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Seem fine to me.
Really? Seems like a horrible existence to me, all that for some nut you don't even need
8 months ago
Anonymous
Maybe to you, but others can work and be around women just fine. Or you're just ugly as sin and automatically get called a "Creep", been there.
8 months ago
Anonymous
Being around women as friends is optimal. What I don't understand is what horrible thing happens if you don't cum inside her. What happens?
8 months ago
Anonymous
I don't know dude, that's a weird question to make. No wonder you ain't got no maidens lmao
8 months ago
Anonymous
That question is weird because it is based on your weird premise that you NEED to have sex for some reason nobody knows. Health? How? You need companionship but you can get that from platonic relationships.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>you NEED to have sex for some reason nobody knows
I can guess of a couple things, but you seem pretty bad off.
8 months ago
Anonymous
No tell me. Do you HAVE to have sex or the voices will hurt you? Are you a rapist?
8 months ago
Anonymous
No shit you don't have to have sex, but people do, for pleasure and procreation. Why am I explaining this to you?
8 months ago
Anonymous
Is it pleasant to feel jealousy humiliation pain etc?
8 months ago
Anonymous
You're a weirdo.
8 months ago
Anonymous
You don't know me. You only know my arguments which you have no response to
Meanwhile having sex with std prostitutes and getting turbo-aids syphillis is fricking great for your health and so is mental health obliteration as a bonus
>having a sex life like a healthy person > mental health obliteration
Yeah, nah. >Meanwhile having sex with std prostitutes and getting turbo-aids syphillis is fricking great for your health
Yeah, you're most likely going to get that from the escorts you keep on getting.
Older women compliment me on my looks all the time, but women my age/younger definitely never do, so how is it something I’m doing that’s bad? Clearly I can be found desirable, it’s almost like millennial/zoomer women’s standards have skyrocketed.
He's saying it as cope because he's not getting laid. It's the same anon that's seething at peoples posts.
You don't know me. You only know my arguments which you have no response to
Because I have no idea where you want this to go and I'm getting bored with it.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>Because I have no idea where you want this to go and I'm getting bored with it.
You're a philistine that can't recognize epicurean arguments. Didn't you go to school? What did they teach you besides black history, the holocaust and female worship?
8 months ago
Anonymous
What do you want me to say? Agree with you? Because I'm not.
You're going to tell me someone with a social life and a sex life isn't a healthy person? You're going to tell me that sitting on the computer all day whining about women you don't talk to because you got rejected one time is healthy? Have fantasies of harming women over it is healthy?
Ive had female friends my whole life, its true that some of those times there was attraction in there too, and if it was mutual it would happen that we fricked, but we were friends first. Some of those friendships still lasts and I deeply cherish them. One of my best friends ever is this girl Ive known for 15 years now. We had times where we hook up and all, but those were just moments, the friendship stucked. We are both married nowadays to different people, and that other shit is just past.
I'm even trying to give advice and I have people losing their shit on me. It's like they want to do absolutely nothing and trying to illegitimatize you if you say about how abnormal their lifestyle is. Saying that if you haven't kissed a girl, had sex, hand a girls hand, hugged her, etc, there's something wrong caused so much seethe.
>Saying that if you haven't kissed a girl, had sex, hand a girls hand, hugged her, etc, there's something wrong caused so much seethe.
this. so much this.
if you are a virgincel you need to die, simple as. Deviations are not permitted to exist. I don't care about your sob story, just die.
if I have a friend and they invite me to meet their friend group, how the frick do I make friends with the others instead of just awkward stiff small talk
no I get this and I know you're right but I just don't know how to be vibey right off of the bat instead of taking time to warm up to people, first impressions are important and I can't be standoffish every single time
I have a female friend. We’ve never fooled around and aren’t interested with each other romantically. It works out nicely for now because we’re both single just too busy to date, so we can hang out and people assume we’re a couple. I also get practice being on dates and being with a woman in general. She gladly offers dating advice or anything like that if I’m actually pursuing someone.
Nope.
They either want to frick you or they want a simp who will hang on their every word.
I had a lot of women friends in the past because I liked female simps that would hang on my every word, once in a while we'd get drunk and they'd invariably try to hit on me.
The few female acquaintances I had in school were more than fine to tolerate me. I didn't register enough to reach the friend zone, which I guess was a good and bad thing. I wish I was asexual.
If you are past a certain age, women should not expect to be your friend. Its like wtf? For instance, I'm 34 and I was talking to this 31 year old girl. She starts calling my buddy and shit like I'm her friend. Why would a 34 year old need a female friend? Women are crazy.
>work in restaurant >all the waitresses are hot as frick >treat them normally, say something funny every now and again, try hard not to spill my spaghetti
I'm like 87% sure they know I'm a loser who has never fricked, but they don't say anything about it so it's kinda cool I can just blend in
Nope. I had a very close friend that was very "one of the guys". She was honest to a fault and admitted that we could've fricked had I made the move when she got cheated on. I friendzoned her since she was a nut and I didn't want to get involved. She ended up burning the relationship and trying to gaslight that I was some racist homophobe after having known me for years. I think her boyfriend saw me as a threat and really pushed for it. She had some serious mental issues, his loss.
Let's break this down a bit. Firstly, what is friendship? How easy is it for "men" to have real friendship, not just the stupid shit you read about guys being buddies because they are in a fox hole or both like to go fishing. Those are technically friendships but I'm talking about a "best" friend, a mate, a bro that you love platonically. You guys have fun together, it just feels good to hang out. That's what a true friendhship is. Is that what women think men should be doing with them? Vibing off of them platonically and expecting them to engage in their hobbies on equal footing? It's like asking why 2+2 doesn't equal five. It just doesn't. Why complain about it?
No but it’s the same for guys as well. I sure as hell don’t want a female friend. They’re awful enough as it is as gfs.
it's very rare to find a girl you genuinely find funny or interesting who you also aren't attracted to. It's like the reverse unicorn or something. Guys who say anything else are simps or hangers on and women who say otherwise are either moronic or lying attention prostitutes.
>girl is smart and funny
>but Asian
It’s not that hard, anon.
>no interest in superior asian women
homosexual and/or zogbot
>Guys who say anything else are simps or hangers on and women who say otherwise are either moronic or lying attention prostitutes.
This.
You can be attracted to a woman without trying to get in her pants and it happens every day in the professional world with platonic relationships. You thinking everything has to lead up to intercourse is a problem with your own degeneracy. You do however need to watch out for
and to have the social awareness of knowing why each person is deciding to have you in their lives.
>You can be attracted to a woman without trying to get in her pants and it happens every day in the professional world with platonic relationships
t. gay
Grow up
no
White dude did nothing wrong, whole thing is a disingenuous shit-test, hoping that alpha chad will still do and take what he wants.
gotta love how they keep pushing Black folk respecting whamen and trannies
>he doesn't have ugly smart friends whom he friendzones
shiggy diggy
>it's very rare to find a girl you genuinely find funny or interesting who you also aren't attracted to. It's like the reverse unicorn or something
This is true if you assume she is at least decent looking. Because it's not that rare to find a funny interesting fat chick.
A good personality consists of a chick with a little hard body, who will satisfy all sexual demands without being too loose about things, and who essentially will keep her dumb fricking mouth shut.
You know what Ed Gein said about women?
Personally, I sometimes like being friends with ugly girls. There is no sexual tension on my part. It's like being friends with a particularly incompetent male who has a nose for gossip.
I have one female friend like you’ve described and I do no expect to find a relationship like this again because as you’ve said it’s so incredibly rare. We’re not sexually attracted to each other because we’re not each other’s types, we’ve known each other for more than a decade and nothing ever happened even when we lived together for some time. She’s one of three people in the world aside from parents I can completely trust.
I’m very proud to have this person in my life and wish you all a friend like this, a friend who’s been tested by bad times and helped you when you needed it the most. Shame it’s so rare.
Why don't you marry her?
beta cuck
When I was young and naive I used to think that female friends would help me get a girlfriend. Like it will give me an advantage trying to date her friends. Then I grew up and realized that if anything it makes it harder because women look down on men who have a lot of female friends. They view you as a beta and just wonder why the woman you're friends with won't date you.
in my experience its the female "friend" just gatekeeping pussy from you, I met this one girl at uni who used to date my cousin and we hit it off, she was fairly attractive but the thought of having my moronic cousins sloppy seconds turned me off so I never pursued her, every fricking time I asked her to introduce me to one of her hot friends she'd tell me "oh she wasn't interested" or something and I believed her until one of said friends approached me once in the library all flirty and shit and I asked her out and she said yes, i asked her on the second date why she wasn't interested initially.
>what do you mean anon?
well I asked my friend if she could introduce me and you said no.
>wtf that never happened
so yeah my "friend" was lying to me the whole time, and I want to emphasise there was absolutely nothing romantic vibe between the 2 of us, she was literally just a dude to me and she never gave me any signals that she wanted me like that.
That "friend" of yours deserves to be shot. Not killed, necessarily, but she should experience having a potentially lethal firearm discharged disdainfully into her meat.
Most of my female friends are my buddies' long time gfs/wives with stable relationships.
They're great at keeping taps on social stuff and group dynamics. Believe me, they're way more sensitive about it then guys are. Helps me a lot when I need to know which of my friends are in trouble but putting on a brave face. Also great at detecting red flags and so forth in other women.
Just don't expect them to engage the same practical topics as guys are. Keep an open mind and cultivate platonic relationship with a few. Might might learn a thing or two even if you might dismiss it as inane bullshit.
Depends what you're into, I don't like sportsball or other shit like obscure indi music that men talk about so I found the company of women much more enjoyable.
And you can frick them of course.
I pretty much gave up on friends. I'm very affable and make friends easily but I'm married and prefer my wife's company most of the time.
Most people just aren't worth being friends with.
Notice the only people replying to you are bloggays so most likely women or very beta men.
of course they do, the question is if it happens the other way around
which they also do but lots of people disagree
No, they just want potential backups.
This. I have had 2 former co-workerswomen try to strike up some kind of friendship literally years after we last saw each other. Frick off I'm not being your security blanket, find a moron to rescue you from your shitty relationships/life and raise your kids. Not fricking interested.
lol
lmao
LMAO
Anyway women are fricking evil and manipulative. Ever been somewhere you can hear women talk amongst themselves when they think no guys are around? It's fricking disgusting. Pure insect talk.
That’s how I got redpilled. A chick was gettin married and she said something like “it’s my first marriage so might as well go all out”. Really disgusting prostitutes.
no, they just want beta gays who will raise her self steem, the backup thing is just another cope from beta incels
Yeah this is it. They want you to raise their self-esteem while they are simultaneously lowering yours
Yeah in my case they only ever want to be friends
Men who don’t get pussy has a different demeanor than those that do
I'm not convinced anybody actually wants to be friends with anybody else. Most of the time friendship is just a state of convenience to be able to tolerate having other people in your presence on a habitual basis. Yeah, some people spike their social circles to the moon as though they're collecting stamps or something, you know fifty for every country they travel to, but I don't even begin to consider those meaningful relationships.
How lonely are you man, that you can't even understand the concept of friendship?
What is friendship? You just talk about the same shit. Complain. Share your life story. Make some jokes. Why?
Waste of.time in the end. Are they going to back you up if shit hits the fan? Would they house you for a few years if you fell on hard times? If you were convicted of a disgraceful crime?
No? Then you are just like a little child with his "fwends" in the playground playing tag you're it
The only People worth investing in really are close family, partner and children
My friends would back me up 1000%
You gotta find better friends bro
That's what you think.
This is all cope because you're an unlikable c**t, and anyone you've previously 'invested in' realized this and chose to cut you out.
>What is friendship? You just talk about the same shit. Complain. Share your life story. Make some jokes.
Well I don't really share my life's story with most of them since they've been around for most of it, but yeah. Human social interaction.
>Why?
Humans are social creatures.
>Waste of.time in the end. Are they going to back you up if shit hits the fan? Would they house you for a few years if you fell on hard times? If you were convicted of a disgraceful crime?
Not sure about the disgraceful crime thing, hasn't happened. We've definitely been there for each other through hard times. I'm not a big fan of unconditional friendship where you support someone doing evil shit so I guess it would depend if we thought each other were innocent of crimes.
>No? Then you are just like a little child with his "fwends" in the playground playing tag you're it
Nothing wrong with more shallow social relationships for recreation, although those definitely aren't deep friendships. They can certainly develop into those with the right people.
>The only People worth investing in really are close family, partner and children
Mostly true. Some of my family is worth investing in, some isn't. Some non family non partners I know are closer than all but my brother.
Lots of people having shitty relationships is no excuse for your inability to find good friends to connect with. If you don't want to waste time with more shallow acquaintances, that's fine, but it's no different than spending time watching movies or any other recreational activity
He understands it perfectly.
Yes, incels call that friend zoning.
Yeah, I had a female friend for like 10 years. She used to talk how I should,'ve fricked her or start dating her all the time but when I actually got drunk and started groping her, she freaked out and ghosted me.
yeah you sound like the normal one here for sure
I mean, we were staying in a motel and sleeping on one bed after 6 hours drive of talking about relationships and fetishes. I never really wanted to be with her, but sometimes your ball just take over.
passive aggressive homosexual
she wanted you as a backup plan. You moved too fast, her plan was to wait until she was a 35-year-old overweight single mother.
She is 29 and single mother for 7 years, kek.
Yes anon. Do you not see the very big difference?
She was trying to tell you that when you first met you were in the zone where you two could have fricked or been in a relationship or just be friends. It's a window that only stays open for a short period of time. You went the friends route and ended up in the friendzone which basically makes you like a brother to her and she doesn't want to frick her brother so what you did was weird at that point. You shoot your shot early into meeting someone and then pivot if it doesn't work out.
fricking her friends can work too
>but when I actually got drunk and started groping her
Average Cinemaphile®ners idea of flirting.
>dick in a glass case
if she likes my personality why can't we bang?
she doesn't care about me as a person just wanted attention
As I get older, I’m starting notice how often some women can be aggressively flirty.
no matter how much you cope you wont change the nature, gay
I don't care what women want.
Yes.
But why do women get so pissed off when their male friends want to ask them out?
Wouldn't you rather have a guy who you know and trust be your bf over a guy you don't know?
You would think, but no. Women seal their impression of you extremely quickly.
>who you know and trust
What does this have to do with passing genes?
the problem is that women view their friends as their equals, and women HATE dating their equal. It's also why you should never treat women like equals no matter how much feminists say they want it.
>view their friends [men] as equals...
They better knock that off.
Every fricking time they leave America or Europe they get their heads cut off.
>you should never treat women like equals
how do you do that without coming off as a sexist creep?
I had an old man tell me one time that "If you want to understand women, you have to hate them first", even as a kid I was like "I don't know about all that man".
You know how you treat children? That's not malicious or mean, but it's not equal. Move your treatment of women in the direction of you treatment of kids, just nowhere near as far. Just enough to dip the needle below equal.
Sex and love is for the attractive stranger. Known trustworthy guys job is to raise his kids.
>But why do women get so pissed off when their male friends want to ask them out?.
Because it removes "plausible deniability" and the woman is forced to confront the issue. She can't pretend anymore and say, "Oh he doesn't like me! He's just a friend." Her plausible deniability shield is gone now.
>Wouldn't you rather have a guy who you know and trust be your bf over a guy you don't know?
Because she wanted to keep guy friend as a potential option. Like a moon orbiting around her planet. Not upgrade them to Boyfriend status just yet (if ever). And if it ever did happen, she wanted to make The decision. Not you. She wanted you to sit quietly and just pretend to be her friend until she was ready for more. You weren't supposed to confess your feelings and ruin the romance game.
It's basically a mixed feeling of losing her plausible deniability shield/being forced to make a choice/losing a potential orbiter friend (even if she says yes or no). Boyfriends never get downgraded to Friends once it happens. They only become ex's
Women want to be chased by multiple guys and fought over. It makes them feel special and unique. It's their dream romance. Then they choose one guy to be the chosen one.
5 star post my nugger
>Women want to be chased by multiple guys and fought over. It makes them feel special and unique. It's their dream romance. Then they choose one guy to be the chosen one.
i've noticed even the hyper liberal feminist women are like this. they think a constant stream of frick boys looking to hook up in their 20s means there will be a constant stream of husband material men in their 30s so they play the field and soak up the attention until one day its all gone and its never coming back and the men they were getting attention from dont even remember them. pretty bleak
>Boyfriends never get downgraded to Friends once it happens. They only become ex's
My ex and I are each other's closest friends and there's nothing else, in either direction. We've been friends longer than we dated by now.
I'd frick her sure, but I'd frick a potato sack with the right curves.
>My ex and I are each other's closest friends and there's nothing else, in either direction. We've been friends longer than we dated by now.
>I'd frick her sure, but I'd frick a potato sack with the right curves.
Then you aren't friends. You can never go back to what you had before you were in a relationship.
Fantastic post. Additionally, women want as many men to do ""emotional labor"" for them as they can, but only one dude will get boyfriend privliges in return. The rest operate as a one way street for their benefit.
Imagine you found out one of your male friends secretly wanted to frick you the whole time and that's why they were friends with you. It's creepy and gross, that's how women see you when you try that shit
Don't work that way, gays get dealt with violently
You won't do shit pussy KEK there are gay bars in your city you could go to right now if you wanted to pick a fight. You won't cause you know you'd get your head stomped on lmfao
literally impossible, based on science and my dick
No they want partners and potential backup partners and enablers. By all means commit to normal friendly relations with foids at work but never ever in a million years do anything for them, they don't care and don't return favors and don't view it as an equal arrangement, they just take whatever and do nothing in return.
I'm friends with a woman. She is married if that matters.
Yes exclusively. If a guy friend appears to be interested in more than that I will distance myself from them.
ugly roasty detected
Simmer down chuddie
doesn't apply to me, I'm 6" fit and blue eyed and I guarantee you would never want to just be friends because of my appearance
unless you mean in terms of the mentality that women are deranged children, in which case yes, chud away all you like
Why are you being so defensive on a Norwegian racing sardine forum?
because I love and respect women passionately
I wonder if you know that this makes you a bad person. You probably think this is "your right" or some shit kek.
women only want to be "friends" with men they find undesirable, but if she wants to frick and you don't she'll ghost your ass faster than you can blink.
God damn I love being white. I don’t have to deal with any of this incel shit.
low quality bait
I fricking hate women so much it's unreal
anyone who dates a single mother is a cuk and a simp. keep paying for her mistakes, morons.
I hung out with this one girl a couple times recently. I thought it was going cool, I told her she was really cute and she laughed and shit. Whatever. Then out of nowhere she tells me she is kinda seeing someone. I'm like cool and I start to create distance. Only problem is that the girl keeps texting me like almost every day. Texting me good morning and shit. But when I try to put moves she just tells me to shut up. Wtf is up bros?
She just wants attention, that's it.
90% of what women do or say is to get attention, the ones who don't are probably autistic or loners or both.
She likes both you and the other guy, but the other guy more. She’s breadcrumbing you with attention as she doesn’t want you to move on to another girl. She will keep you as an option but never truly act on it, but at the same time likely flip out if you were to move on.
I hate that shit
She sees you as a future beta provider, it's not rocket science
Ghost her til her texts become desperate and angry. Then deliver a short, curt rejecting message, like just send her "Nope", and resume ghosting forever and delete her number kek.
i am autistic and have preferred being friends with women because they are less likely to tease me. that being said, eventually all of my women friends have propositioned me for sex or made it clear they wanted a relationship. for clarification here, women mistake me for "mysterious" when in actuality i am just tall, introverted and when i do speak i just talked about whatever wikipedia articles i read that day
What do you do?
what the frick do you think i do? computer shit of course.
almost all the women have been very polite and ambiguous in soliciting sex. i have had 3 friendships end due to saying no. i have had several horrible experiences with female acquaintances that did not like hearing no for answer.
its fine to be friends with a woman keeping you around as a backup. just say politely say "no thank you, i appreciate your friendship but i dont see anything beyond that for us.' when she tries to cash in on her investment
genuine "i dont actually want pussy" -autism is great for getting women if u interact with them on the long term since it drives them insecure about themselves
Being friends with a woman is unacceptable unless she is fat or ugly. Being just friends with a sexually appealing woman is unnatural.
Had a girl that was a friend for the first time in years, I don’t recommend it.
It's called a sister or a cousin. If you want to frick them, have a nice day.
It's objectively acceptable to dick your kwizan, just don't have kids.
Everything is permitted for a rapist sex pest subhuman. Dude sex lmao
Interesting position. I do not share it. I did briefly share my cousin with her boyfriend (he did not know this) and shit was pretty cash ngl tbh
Good for you cleetus
I live in an urban centre in a country where no one is named Cleetus. Stay mad.
Oh my bad. Good for you C-3PO or whatever californians name their kids nowadays
Persist in vexation.
I end up having sex with my female friends and it ends in disaster, for me. I'm happier being a social recluse. They're all vaxxed anyway and I can't stand using condoms. I don't want mystery Bill Gates DNA running around my blood.
If your attention has value in their social circle, sure.
>gf is still friends with her ex boyfriends and I've had to hang out with them a couple times when we go out
If it’s a sitcom style friend group, then I guess it’s ok but you should be on alert. If it’s just Mike and John who she still talks to and hangs out with, that’s unacceptable (not that you can say it)
contact your ex-gf to hang out with your friend group and tell your now-gf that you are just being friendly
I ended a 9 year frienship with a girl when she started coming onto me and I rejected her pretty badly. I was put off by it but then i started to consider maybe this could work and next time we met I tried to make a couple moves and she in turn rejected me. Fricking horrid lads I still remember that walk back home when I realized I dont ever want to see that girl again and finally took the redpill misogyny cape and embraced inceldom.
She did end up trying to text me a few times afterwards but holy shit theres no going back from that mess.
Have you guys ever seen a redpilled guy go back to blue? Feels like that train only goes one way
Yes. When they get married
men
>dude I'm tired of dealing with women, i hate them and their bullshit so much
also men
>WHAT? THAT GUY IS A VIRGIN?? WHAT A FRICKING moron LOL HOW CAN YOU BE A VIRGIN AT THIS DAY AND AGE FRICK OFF INCEL
pussy is like meth, not even once. you can't miss what you've never had. I cant wait until they start getting raped in public by pajeets. you get what you fricking deserve. dudes that are obsessed with other dudes sex lifes are bonafide butt pirates.
That sounds like a whole lot of tell it to a therapist.
Getting laid and being in a ltr are different things. You're being obtuse.
sure, that's why you people complain about getting one-night stands too
>UGH for real I just wanted to get my dick wet and she makes me jump through hoops and shit and now she won't leave me be UGH the normie life is so hard
Why are you telling us about your arguments with voices in your head?
oooh, is the normalgay mad? maybe normalgay needs to calm down? think of happier things? maybe the normalgay needs to start sucking my dick to relax?
Schizo freak
lmao I can actually taste your tears and smell your beshitted pants through your posts
The mistake you're making is that you think guys that get women aren't also tired of women and their bullshit
>missing the point this hard
Let me explain to you into words you can actually process:
the same men who get laid and are tired of women's shit are also the ones who shame other men for being sexually unsuccessful aka men who are explicitly not involved in the bullshit women like to involve men in
>gf is hanging out with her single male friend at night at his place not replying to messages
>comes back tipsy, tell her this behavior is not ok
>tells me she is upset that I don’t trust her and she’s allowed her own night life
It’s all so tiresome
I had a lot of female friends when I was a kid/teenager. I moved back to my hometown for a year during Covid and wound up running into a bunch of them and they all admitted they had crushes on me and a couple even asked why I never made a move but I genuinely didn't even know they liked me. It ruins it for me in hindsight because we had fun and I thought they were just cool chicks but the whole time they were eyeing up my schlong and only hung out with me because they thought I was attractive.
I can’t put into words how afraid women are of rejection. Even if they like you it’s just not worth the risk of being rejected and destroying their self worth. If they do tell you they like you it’s extremely rare and are probably in love with you if they do.
>Do women ever just want to be friends with men?
Constantly but guys can't do that unless they're gay.
I had a female friend I had a crush on for a year. when i made my move she politely rejected me but insisted we stayed close as friends
I distanced myself for a while but started talking to her again eventually
now I have a gf and she's never been more chatty with me than now
women are fricking vile
Why would I want to talk to a woman as a "friend"
They don't like nerdy shit. They don't really understand life or survival. Most men don't either tbh but a few do.
My girlfriend is great but would I hang around with her if our relationship wasn't romantic? Idk. Probably not. Unless there's physical affection then a woman is really just an annoying, weak and more stupid male
Friends in general are for idiotic NPC's come to think of it. If you want a good conversation just go on forums
There’s a girl at work (remote), who is obsessed with me. I politely turned her down, you know “I think you’re a wonderful person too, but I can’t do the long distance thing, etc.”. Now she’s acting like she’s my gf, but what I really wanted to say was it’s too much fricking work for no sex. I don’t want to chat and flirt at night after work. I don’t want to hear you vent and tell you you’re right and everything’s going to be ok. I just want to get drunk and play video games
This is what it comes down to. If you're not getting fricked or fed, a girlfriend is just a negative
Yes. Some men and women at first do not connect sexually at all, there's no chemistry but there is mutual sympathy at a conversational level. Ironically, that often leads to marriages and long-lasting, happy ones at that
This has literally never happened outside of movies and anime.
I'm really starting to see why "touch grass" become a phrase on this website
Yeah because pussies like you flooded in
Fick off we're full
>exiting your residence magically makes women intelligent, responsible, sensible, and gives them a newfound sense of accountability and genuine empathy.
Dude, really? Touch gaming chair, lmao.
They're turbo traps who actually love covk insteead of pretend to. If you're not superfit and don't thus have a huge sex drrive and dick you shouldn't annoy women. They want dick all the time.
>They want dick all the time.
Incel misperceptions are funny
it's a well-known fact that women want sex more than men, especially as they age.
This post really highlights the fact you don't know what the frick you're talking about. Women are more interested in what the dick is attached to. Hair, face and money will get you far more pussy than a big dick will
how does this relate to the fact that women are sex-freaks and want to get laid 24/7?
>fact
Just because you keep saying something is a fact doesn't make it a fact. It's not like women are waiting outside the grocery store hollering at men cause they want some dick. Do people want to have good sex frequently? Yeah, no shit. Show me someone who doesn't want that. Doesn't mean they're gonna go tackle and frick some nobody.
why would they? they just boot Tinder or something and get their breathing dildo to come (and cum) to their house on demand
You seem very angry for some reason
NTA but he's just being emphatic while you are quite clearlyl sexually inexperienced. It doesn't work like that and women's sexual desire isn't that one-note
>realistically explain how a woman's sex drive works
>"v-v-virgin!"
huh. are you a woman? is that why you are so mad?
No I'm not but you are 100% not just a male virgin but also someone w/little experience/intimacy w/ women in general.
yup, it's a woman alright.
Goes to show how much you know women
I know enough about them to make them seethe at me and call me incel
protip: when a woman calls you a virgin, you've done something to upset them
Easiest way to upset a woman? Speak the truth.
>Speak the truth.
Your shut-in assumptions do not necessarily reflect the truth you know
you know you've done nothing to prove me wrong, no?
I don't have to, not least bc your "well-known fact" mentioned above wasn't sourced to begin with.
Women's horniness fluctuates: many women are sexless, some prefer masturbation to sex etc. The Tinder demographic isn't representative and bawds/nymphomaniacs are a fringe
>e-e-e-every person is different!
so this is the power of a hole's reasoning skills lmao
>I-I-I told you I'm not a g-g-girl!
a hole defender is as, if not more, pathetic than a hole herself. Women are by nature moronic, you have no excuse.
Again: your incel rants and generalizations are detached from real life
>your wrong!
>how?
>omg you can't be serious!
You're repeating inane "all women are sex freaks" incel flights of fancy while asking others for proof that reality is much more layered, something which rl experience will abundantly show
see
c**t lmao
Women aren't angels but incel imaginary rants are often the result of inexperience and assuming that women are prostitutes who frick all the time
do you have evidence to the contrary?
It doesn't work like that. It's up to you to prove your "all women are sex maniacs who frick all the time" premise.
my evidence is you fuming at the mere hint that women like sex better than men and want to have it more often than them too
your turn
So no evidence whatsoever as expected
not an argument
At least you admit it
>no u!
hole moment
5 love to make friends with useful men, then manipulate them into getting something out of it.
well, 'friends' is a nebulous nonsense word for kids. They're actually fellow students, and in adult life they are family, co-workers, collaborators, colleagues, you know, SOMETHING not a pointless, nebulous, wishy-washy nonsense relationship no longer 'enforced' by daily meeting at a place you fricking hate to get lectured at by extremely incompetent and socially awkward adults who have either been doing it far too long and are geriatric or couldn't find a job in a bank after they graduated, opting not to be a doctor, lawyer, or historian or something, then failing to make it as a college professor, even a fricking community college teacher? Pure underachievers 'herding cats' as it were in a system designed by 1900s fricking robber barons to funnel moron kids into factory work.
Yeah, those aren't friends. Those are fellow inmates.
Friendship is also transitional. You might have a 'best friend' from childhood but if you're still regularly hanging out for more than five or six years? Dude, that's not a friend. That's chosen family. That's your brother or sister.
Men and women are incompatible as ever as is, just take a look at this thread. I'm convinced at least 50% of people resent their partner and to a lesser extent their friends regardless of their sex.
>Women and men can't be friends
But when I see people that are functioning and have actual vibrant social lives they have friends of both sexes. This is normal, but just because you're around a girl doesn't mean that she's going to have romantic or sexual feelings towards you, you can be mutual.
But yeah, I agree with GoT, if you haven't had sex, you have kissed a girl, hugged one, or even held their hand, that's not a good thing. There's something wrong with someone who doesn't have any attraction or interest from the opposite sex in some way. There has to be a partner out there for someone, but the harsh reality is that sometimes there's not. But none of these things will come until you do something about it, and self improvement being the first and most important thing.
>if you haven't had sex, you have kissed a girl, hugged one, or even held their hand, that's not a good thing
Source? I can say the opposite. If you have sexual relations with men or women you are making yourself unhappy for no reason (nobody died without sex but millions have died because of it)
I don't need to give you some article or some other bullshit for you to realize that it's not normal or healthy.
> If you have sexual relations with men or women you are making yourself unhappy for no reason
Bullshit, having a sex life is part of being a healthy person.
So what happens when you don't have sex, in your mind? And please no 0,0000001% more chance of some random cancer
You don't have sex, but you're trying to argue with me so incase I slip up you can use it as an attempt to be superior, but you're really coping. I have the same problems, but from the outside looking in I've learned a lot.
Have you not seen how unhappy people who have to deal with women are? How sex brings out the worst in people? Are you blind or deaf or something?
>Have you not seen how unhappy people who have to deal with women are
Seem fine to me.
>How sex brings out the worst in people
LMAO, no.
>Are you blind or deaf or something?
No but I'm sure you're fricking clueless.
>Seem fine to me.
Really? Seems like a horrible existence to me, all that for some nut you don't even need
Maybe to you, but others can work and be around women just fine. Or you're just ugly as sin and automatically get called a "Creep", been there.
Being around women as friends is optimal. What I don't understand is what horrible thing happens if you don't cum inside her. What happens?
I don't know dude, that's a weird question to make. No wonder you ain't got no maidens lmao
That question is weird because it is based on your weird premise that you NEED to have sex for some reason nobody knows. Health? How? You need companionship but you can get that from platonic relationships.
>you NEED to have sex for some reason nobody knows
I can guess of a couple things, but you seem pretty bad off.
No tell me. Do you HAVE to have sex or the voices will hurt you? Are you a rapist?
No shit you don't have to have sex, but people do, for pleasure and procreation. Why am I explaining this to you?
Is it pleasant to feel jealousy humiliation pain etc?
You're a weirdo.
You don't know me. You only know my arguments which you have no response to
Meanwhile having sex with std prostitutes and getting turbo-aids syphillis is fricking great for your health and so is mental health obliteration as a bonus
>having a sex life like a healthy person
> mental health obliteration
Yeah, nah.
>Meanwhile having sex with std prostitutes and getting turbo-aids syphillis is fricking great for your health
Yeah, you're most likely going to get that from the escorts you keep on getting.
Older women compliment me on my looks all the time, but women my age/younger definitely never do, so how is it something I’m doing that’s bad? Clearly I can be found desirable, it’s almost like millennial/zoomer women’s standards have skyrocketed.
>Do women ever just want to be friends with men?
its irrelevant to me because I don't have friends, girl or otherwise
>imply that sex isn't everything or even vital to living a good life
>normalgays come screaming into the thread to shame you
lmao
I can give you infinite examples how sex ruined people like it did you and your parents you troon freak
Meant for
I'm not trans, and I don't know how sex has "ruined people", but it just sounds like cope.
>I don't know how sex has "ruined people"
this website is for 18+
He's saying it as cope because he's not getting laid. It's the same anon that's seething at peoples posts.
Because I have no idea where you want this to go and I'm getting bored with it.
>Because I have no idea where you want this to go and I'm getting bored with it.
You're a philistine that can't recognize epicurean arguments. Didn't you go to school? What did they teach you besides black history, the holocaust and female worship?
What do you want me to say? Agree with you? Because I'm not.
You're going to tell me someone with a social life and a sex life isn't a healthy person? You're going to tell me that sitting on the computer all day whining about women you don't talk to because you got rejected one time is healthy? Have fantasies of harming women over it is healthy?
when did I say or imply that you moron?
jesus normalgays are fragile
I'm not a "normalgay", I'm a complete fricking trainwreck of a human being.
when did I imply anything you claimed I did, frickface?
have a nice day
You're the one seething over me telling you that healthy people have healthy social lives and sex lives. It's fact.
I don't think you understood the point of my post
ESL reading comprehension
Ive had female friends my whole life, its true that some of those times there was attraction in there too, and if it was mutual it would happen that we fricked, but we were friends first. Some of those friendships still lasts and I deeply cherish them. One of my best friends ever is this girl Ive known for 15 years now. We had times where we hook up and all, but those were just moments, the friendship stucked. We are both married nowadays to different people, and that other shit is just past.
What a depressing thread. You frickers need to go engage with real humans face to face.
Yes, people can be platonic friends for friendships sake.
I'm even trying to give advice and I have people losing their shit on me. It's like they want to do absolutely nothing and trying to illegitimatize you if you say about how abnormal their lifestyle is. Saying that if you haven't kissed a girl, had sex, hand a girls hand, hugged her, etc, there's something wrong caused so much seethe.
>Saying that if you haven't kissed a girl, had sex, hand a girls hand, hugged her, etc, there's something wrong caused so much seethe.
this. so much this.
if you are a virgincel you need to die, simple as. Deviations are not permitted to exist. I don't care about your sob story, just die.
no such thing as "female friends"
I am 29 years old and I never even kissed a girl
if I have a friend and they invite me to meet their friend group, how the frick do I make friends with the others instead of just awkward stiff small talk
I hate to give vapid answers, but your mood and vibe is a big part of being likeable to strangers.
no I get this and I know you're right but I just don't know how to be vibey right off of the bat instead of taking time to warm up to people, first impressions are important and I can't be standoffish every single time
Serious question, does anyone have a precise definition of the following: chad, roastie, normie.
I have a female friend. We’ve never fooled around and aren’t interested with each other romantically. It works out nicely for now because we’re both single just too busy to date, so we can hang out and people assume we’re a couple. I also get practice being on dates and being with a woman in general. She gladly offers dating advice or anything like that if I’m actually pursuing someone.
Nope.
They either want to frick you or they want a simp who will hang on their every word.
I had a lot of women friends in the past because I liked female simps that would hang on my every word, once in a while we'd get drunk and they'd invariably try to hit on me.
>I had a lot of women friends in the past because I liked female simps that would hang on my every word
Chicks like that are great ego boosts
For women, everything is always a transaction. Something for something. Its disgusting tbh
The few female acquaintances I had in school were more than fine to tolerate me. I didn't register enough to reach the friend zone, which I guess was a good and bad thing. I wish I was asexual.
sometimes I roleplay with Aloy on genshin impact that i'm north of the wall with jon snow killing white walkers
>asking for girl advice on Cinemaphile
maximum shiggy
I think straight women can genuinely be just friends with guys but guys can't be genuinely just friends with women
If you are past a certain age, women should not expect to be your friend. Its like wtf? For instance, I'm 34 and I was talking to this 31 year old girl. She starts calling my buddy and shit like I'm her friend. Why would a 34 year old need a female friend? Women are crazy.
>work in restaurant
>all the waitresses are hot as frick
>treat them normally, say something funny every now and again, try hard not to spill my spaghetti
I'm like 87% sure they know I'm a loser who has never fricked, but they don't say anything about it so it's kinda cool I can just blend in
I've never met a girl who had anything interesting to say.
Nope. I had a very close friend that was very "one of the guys". She was honest to a fault and admitted that we could've fricked had I made the move when she got cheated on. I friendzoned her since she was a nut and I didn't want to get involved. She ended up burning the relationship and trying to gaslight that I was some racist homophobe after having known me for years. I think her boyfriend saw me as a threat and really pushed for it. She had some serious mental issues, his loss.
Let's break this down a bit. Firstly, what is friendship? How easy is it for "men" to have real friendship, not just the stupid shit you read about guys being buddies because they are in a fox hole or both like to go fishing. Those are technically friendships but I'm talking about a "best" friend, a mate, a bro that you love platonically. You guys have fun together, it just feels good to hang out. That's what a true friendhship is. Is that what women think men should be doing with them? Vibing off of them platonically and expecting them to engage in their hobbies on equal footing? It's like asking why 2+2 doesn't equal five. It just doesn't. Why complain about it?