Damn, I was born in 2002 and around 2008 or so my parents actually bought a computer, I mostly just used it for youtube or to look at Ben 10 pics on google images. Sometimes I daydream that if I knew english back then, and had an older mind I could've experienced the magic just as it was going down, but these are just fantasies.
I would just type "Ben 10" in the search bar and then try to copy on paper the images I thought were coolest, that's it. I did realize however, that if I scrolled too deep some weird shit would start appearing.
There's not possible way 2000 was 23 years ago. That's not possible. Everyone born after 1995 should still be in diapers.
You laugh but will come a time when you talk about the 2010s and adult will talk about being born then. Your time on this mortal coil is finite never forget that.
emo arose because life was so good that teens had to invent despair in order to practice counterculture.
nowadays things are so shit and getting so much worse all the time that you're not "emo", just a normal person responding to the world
2001 kid here so I can't say anything for the 90's, but since decades are arbitrary limits, I say there was period from 2006~2008 to 2013~2016 that felt very distinct from the years before of after. It was when the internet finally became mainstream but at the same time it still hadn't taken over our lives.
>Speaking of, in which year did you feel that 90s or the 2000's vibes start to fade?
Some would argue things started to decline in 2008, but things were still okayish until 2010. That was the turning point.
In fact, if you look at it, the world tends to get a little worse at the end of each decade. >1999: dot com crash and 9/11 >2009: financial crisis and societal decay accelerates >2019: coof and global lockdowns
It's almost as if there are people behind the scenes with globalist ambitions who operate in 10 year plans who tinker with the fabric of society to achieve their own goals. Some would even argue that they have an Agenda for 2030 and that things will probably get even worse in 2029 as well. So enjoy the good old days now, because you are living in them. But I'm sure its all coincidence.
It's that "turn of the century" era. You would understand if you were there. Kinda like how covid showed up in late 2019 but the vaccine rollout wasn't until 2021. Things don't always line up perfectly on a calendar for people like you but its still the same "covid era". 9/11 was the dramatic end to the era of relative peace that was the 1990's and things got worse because of it just like with covid.
Yeah 9/11 definitely played a part in the decline but I feel like it wasn't the exact breaking point.
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You're right, in fact I personally feel that the breaking point was around 2010 like I posted earlier, but thats just me. Everything just got "lame" after 2010, like society just gave up and died.
Ever since 1999 there just seems to be something that happens at the end of each decade or early in the next that just makes everything worse. It's wierd.
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Whereas in the 90s at the beginning of the decade they had the Berlin wall fall which marked a decade of good times.
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Yes, the fall of the USSR was good for (most) of the world.
It kinda looks like the end of every decade in recent history was a turning point, 1979 saw the end of a decade of crippling inflation in the U.S. and 1989 saw the beginning of the end of the Cold War.
Its just 1999 (dotcom bubble, 9/11), 2009 (depth of 2008 financial crisis), and 2019 (coof unleashed) that have been terrible turing points. I wonder what changed, and why things always seem to shift only at the end of each decade.
Makes me wonder how 2029 will turn out...
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Don't forget
1919 - Eighteenth Amendment passes prohibiting alcohol
1929 - Beginning of the Great Depression
1939 - WWII declared
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>1919 - alcohol is prohibited >1920 - the start of the most alcoholic decade in American history
Weird how banning things always just makes it worse.
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Glad I'm not the only one noticing this trend.
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Cute kot
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Don't forget
1919 - Eighteenth Amendment passes prohibiting alcohol
1929 - Beginning of the Great Depression
1939 - WWII declared
Glad I'm not the only one noticing this trend.
>9/11
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>fall of the USSR was good >majority of the world was left to the mercy of mutt bankers' whims
Stealing the wealth of the USSR only put an already failing system of life support and made way for the 9/11 future. Culture and the economy stagnated without an ideological enemy.
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The French Revolution was the breaking point. Then after that there were a series of other breaking points. But really the French Revolution and the death of Louis XVI was the original Shattering.
>Speaking of, in which year did you feel that 90s or the 2000's vibes start to fade?
September 2001
I honestly didn't enjoy the 00's. I get why zoomers romanticize them because they see the sanitized version that they didn't have to live through. I liked some aspects of it, mostly the gaming and comics. But everything else was just the punished edit of the 90s. The music sucked, r&b was worse, rap was worse. That covers 99% of what you would hear on the radio, but also rock and yes pop punk/emo was worse too. Manga was my only escape from the shitty culture of the time, that was the other good thing about the 00s, that was when manga exploded in America.
>they didn't have to live through
The oldest zoomers were born in the late 90's. We could say it's rose tinted glasses but many of us lived through the 2000's.
Sometimes I get surprised by something that happened during my child years (2000's and early 2010's) because it goes against the impression I had of the time.
For example, people think that the Cinemaphilentent from back in the day was less political mainly because we were kids and it all went over our heads. Spongebob doing a minstrel show about squirrels or Squidward going on strike are things that meant nothing to me because I had no context of what it was.
(I'm not denying that things have changed, but there is a bias when looking back)
what is it that zoomers romanticise about the 2000's?
For me it was that I could say politicaly incorrect things and have the internet has a refuge form the moronic normalgays irl.
I miss the "Wild Frontier" aspect where people were experimenting across whatever site they could find to see what went viral, before it became 'influencer' farmers diluting the search, and how low the bar was for fanimation.
I really miss the dark, emo/goth stuff, or dark topics and aesthetic in general, things used to be more risky. Nowadays every single thing must be PG-13 and being "riskt" and "counter culture" is to promote LGBT+ corporate shilling.
I fricking hate the emo aesthetic (I wished the OG 70s metalhead look came back right at the time the goffik/nu metal/emogay thing was at its peak that I grew my hair out but that just got me accused of being emo somehow) but I would gladly take it back over what we have now >of course it was emos who led to what we have now
The edgy stuff nowadays is the sort of frat-nerd-right-wing punk rock hybrid thing we have going on over here. It lacks a certain level of sincerity honestly.
and a personal friend of mine, also created this collage for the late 90s early 2000s
Though I don't think it was supposed to be celebratory, every time I look at it, my desire to go back nudges just a little bit higher
>Sable
Oh I dream of being a hormonal youth again during the Attitude Era.
Hot take, I prefer the Attitude Era of pop culture over the Y2K era (even if they crossed over a lot)
Gimme nu metal and skater punk and edgy low-poly 3D games over drum n bass techno and Spice Girls. It was massively dumb and stupid, but at least it was fun.
Not sure if it has a exact term but generally typing "Y2K aesthetic" plus what ever term you want to specify; "goth" "emo" "gamer" etc; tends to work for me.
used to make fun of emos and scenes back in the day, now I regret not being part of it and trying to get a qt emo gf...
and the music was not that bad at all
You too? Yeah, I was bullied a lot at school and annoy goth or emo people to feel better but now I just regret it. Some girls were cute but of course, I had to throw that mug ball at her
I know right? I was picked on sometimes for being a nerd and was adopted by the normalgay clique which kind of protected me, but emos at least were legit and a lot close to each other. Don't know if the nostalgia is messing my mind, but their girls were the cutest: introspective, quiet, nonconfrontational, nonopinionated and passionate about music, games, art. They had nice personalities
Well now that emo has made a comeback. Maybe you can be the emo you always wanted
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Yeah. I miss when boys talked about how cool pistols are and girls where talking about how cute the new DS was
You too? Yeah, I was bullied a lot at school and annoy goth or emo people to feel better but now I just regret it. Some girls were cute but of course, I had to throw that mug ball at her
I know right? I was picked on sometimes for being a nerd and was adopted by the normalgay clique which kind of protected me, but emos at least were legit and a lot close to each other. Don't know if the nostalgia is messing my mind, but their girls were the cutest: introspective, quiet, nonconfrontational, nonopinionated and passionate about music, games, art. They had nice personalities
1. What were the reasons behind the emo hate back in the day?
2. Could it gain an appreciation movement like hoe much goths are loved now?
In my case, they just looked weird and that made them target of bullying. I mean, I was bullied a lot too (I was a nerd, big glasses, short, skinny) but bullied them was some way of relase my frustration, anger and sadness.
Second, I don't know. Egirls and "alt" girls are becoming a thing that is making some girls want to be on the "old school" goth and stuff like that
Emos were mocked for being whiny little b***hes and because they looked gay and dressed up like discount goths. I don't see the emo movement coming back anytime soon, if ever - it only makes sense when you're a hormonal teenager, so it would have to trend on Tiktok or whatever social media platform zoomers are using these days to even have a chance. The goth "comeback" seems to be pretty much only the aesthetics (which were always superior to the emo look even when that was popular) and not the attitude or the music that came with the subculture.
Goths were always conscious outcasts, which comes with a level of retrospective cool, kind of like how nerd culture has been mined for coolness. Like nerds, they were also omnipresent, and if you went to high school in a certain period, you've seen goths. If you were a nerd, you have probably hanged with goths at one point or another. Emo was just more of a style in general, and it'd be more akin to valley girls becoming a thing again.
I miss the freedom, the media, the culture (even though all of it was a shadow of the peak we hit in 80s). The only thing I don't miss is the slow internet and other obsolete tech.
Not him but i remember having a CD walkman, then a Zune, also a gameboy (forgot what model) and then a DS
The Zune was extremely durable, lasted until like 2012, i remember it had very good storage space for the time too, maybe 100 gb
>gameboy, ds
Those I wouldn't call obsolete but retro. I think James Rolfe said it best that retro stuff is old but still fun to go back to. Whereas obsolete stuff is old stuff that you never want to go back to, you're glad its been replaced. Like the walkman for example.
Almost everything. Phones were huge bricks that died quickly. TVs were these huge things a grown man is challenged to lift alone. Monitors were small and digital media low res. Computers were slow as frick, it took literal hours to install a game from disc, and then they didn't work half the time because some component or soft was incompatible and good fricking luck figuring out which. Lots of people still had VCRs and DVD players weren't that much better, you didn't have a fraction of the control you have on a PC and obviously had to have physical media. If you wanted to listen to music, you had to have a mp3 player or a walkman. Good luck figuring out where to go since GPS was an expensive separate thing, and forget (effective and affordable) internet on the go. But maybe I'm remembering late 90s early 00s, most of that stuff was gone when 2010 rolled around.
That's all correct but it didnt really matter since we didnt have anything to compare it to. Well PC gaming was actually a frustrating pain in the ass. But its not like we were watching low-res DVD's on our CRT or early flat-screen thinking "fuuuuck i wish i had a cool 4K TV right now", we just enjoyed what we had.
Google would look like a supervillain at this point.
Remember when their motto was "Don't be evil"? If anything that should've been the first sign, non-evil entities don't typically have to remind themselves not to be evil.
same. i know a bunch are still technically around but having a forum for every little thing and then random sites like albinoblacksheep made the internet feel so vast. theres like 5 websites now and they all read the same ;_;
I think like many that grew up around that era, I miss it. But so much of that nostalgia from people is misguided. everyone claims to miss that time but then shun the more raunchy aspects as if they weren't part of why it was enjoyable. Either that or they view it from the warped nu-2010s ironic lense of calling it "cringy" because they can't admit to liking anything.
It was a new millennium, a chance to experiment and find new styles. And as others in this thread have already touched on, the internet was old enough to be widespread but not completely bent over by companies. A lot of technological advancements and new subcultures bloomed in a short amount of time.
It was a nice contrast to some very terrible events that also occurred during that time. So it was sort of easy to be so carefree, the world felt like it was moving forward. And that's really the biggest difference between then and now. Corporate interests have practically strangled innovation and art, and they also continue to shit up the net. And considering we've made internet our lives now, it's like we're eating a sandwich made only out of bread. It's tasteless, no substance. Combine that with the cynicism as a reaction to those events and you basically get a feedback loop of crap.
Perhaps if we paid closer attention to the themes of the 00's instead of just the content, we'd maybe be able to find ourselves more at peace in a similarly troubled world.
certainly. I'm not denying that people are reacting that way for a reason. but it reminds me a lot of high school culture in the way people are now just immediately ostracized for not being what's popular. ironic, considering the internet was nerd heaven not even 10-20 years ago. It's almost ike we've regressed because the world is starting to cramp on our little monkey brains; with no escapism to help us cope.
I laugh at sóyjak bs but it did a terrible damage to culture. Even worse is when people accuse you of being a subhuman because you happen to enjoy some hobby.
I think this is probably the worst time to be a neckbeard (I prefer the term over nerd) on how hard it's to find new content that pander to suckers like me.
in the social aspect people are behaving like high school cliques on steroids, it was normal to be anxious trying to fit in and avoid bullying, and once you found your place you picked on other people, but now this is applied to everyone and it's done like witch hunting, instead of your misfit punishment being eating alone at lunch and some jokes, they now can get you poor, homeless and miserable, that's why "virgin" and "shutin" became such widespread insults now even if untrue, ironically, as a nerd in highschool people never called me that, but now if you have an opinion or a slighty different lifestyle its almost daily, social media has done irreversible damage to society
My guess is 2010-2012, when myspace was a ghost town but still up an well-known as a memory, when tumblr's reputation wasn't completely destroyed, and when spotify didn't exist or at least wasn't known compared to pandora.
i do, but not so much, broadband internet became available in rural areas in my country at around 2007, i only remember watching knd, megas xlr, and some old 2005 cn, and being oblivious to all the death and suffering in the world
I miss when things were edgy but sincere, ugly but fascinating, and incompetent but experimental. Everything now just feels disingenuous and watered down and recycled. I can't remember the last time I looked forward to something. This can't just be me getting older.
People scurrying in a rat hole to shout Black person and homosexual while Vettans of the board complain the new generation is ruining everything about their identity
I miss when counterculture was a real thing. At some point it went from an insurgency against the mainstream to an evenly matched culture war. Now I feel like an African villager trapped between the Freedom Fighters of Mgombo and the Mgombolese Liberation Front and both of them are just making my life hell.
Every day. I know that part of it is nostalgia that anyone has for their childhood, but it's not just that, a noticeable, factual descend has been happening in the last 10+ years. What I miss the most, as others have said, was that it was an era of various aesthetics, genres and a general experimental nature. The world was vibrant and diverse. Not just speaking about art here, the sun shone brighter, the seas were more vibrant, everything felt "real". And that was reflected in movies and shows and videogames and everything. The aesthetic of the era was this sort of New Millennium, I will not say optimism, but rather belief in a more "advanced" future. Everything was sleek and shiny. Look at Halo and later Mass Effect. There was this sense that despite everything, we were on an upwards trend and we'd keep going and going and... It was that period that was more or less the progenitor of the iPhone, which signaled the collapse of everything, funny enough.
But beyond that, to keep it more Cinemaphile, there was just so much actual genre diversity. You had the more streamlined Sci-Fi, as part of how "techy" the "New Millennium" sounded, but you also had a dedicated Goth revival scene. You had straight-edge and actual edge. It was a time where everything from small indies to horror existed and created a coherent but diverse tapestry. You pick up a comic, play a game, watch a movie now, and they're all the exact same thing. The exact same blandness. Halo looks like cardboard boxes painted over. DUNC took THE Space Opera and turned it into a Brutalist greyness. Digital completely killed the vibrancy of film. Everything is a lifeless copy of some pre-agreed quasi-neoliberal values that seep into every single thing, killing any sort of atmosphere or innovation.
It all just felt so much bigger back then. You read Morrison's X-Men and it felt epic. You read X-Men now, and despite it being set in a literal sentient island and Mars, it feels so incredibly limited.
do you think zoomers will be nostalgic for the 2010's? as a zoomer i despised the 10's and i doubt i will ever feel nostalgia for it, only thing i miss is cute dorky fedora tipper atheists, they were the last kind of male nerd not poisoned by troonyism or altright ideology.
There's already pockets of nostalgia about the early 10s, but that's it. I can't see anyone being nostalgic about anything beyond 2013 at the latest. Say what you will about hipsters, but there was a sort of subculture you can use to give the time a "face". That, combined with the fact that compared to what we have now they seem like a fun time, and you're bound to get nostalgia from someone who was 13 at the time and just barely taking part in it by wearing a vest that one time. From the mid-00s it becomes less and less easy to have a general nostalgia though, as everything started slowly becoming more hegemonic. Nostalgia however is a thing everyone has on some level, the question is how widespread it gets because that's when it becomes "real".
But the truth is that nostalgia is also carried by the 20-25 year periods that studios attempt to cash in on. I don't think that in 2030-2040 we'll have anything resembling the current system, so for my money the Y2K nostalgia they're trying to set up now is the last that will exist in the vein we're used to.
Think about it. What's even left to be nostalgic about? The movie star has died. Magazines have died. Even handhelds have died. The things that made the 80s and 90s prime for nostalgia mining material died in the 10s. There's no dominant aesthetic, nothing to build a movie like The Wedding Singer around. It can't be packaged and sold to the world at large, so there'll be no mass >membah when
sort of "movement" like we've seen with the decades prior. We'll get some Y2K and that'll be the last.
I was an '03 zoomer so i'd have been like 6 when the 2000s ended.
looking back now i wish i was born earlier tbh
i'm not even one of those "le wrong generation XD" morons and i appreciate certain aspects of the era which i came of age in but i just feel like everything cool or fun passed me by.
All of the time.
I miss not only the cartoons, anime, music and video games of the time.
But I miss when people were less sensitive, jokes were understood as jokes, and LGBT+ people kept to themselves as homophobia and transphobia was rampant, and the billions of genders would have them laughed right out of the room.
>no irony poison >no culture war bullshit >the internet wasn’t overly corporatized >shock content could exist >internet subcultures were a thing >flash >goth girls were real
Frick man take me back
the true decline of society began with the iphone. the internet was still niche outside of the office space until then. with the introduction of apple's c**tphone, now anyone could have unlimited internet access in the palm of their hands no matter where they are. everyone connected to every facet of the internet at all hours of the day. convenience compounding to the point where we get addicted to our favorite website, even if we actually fricking hate it. just look at twitter users. all they do is b***h about twitter, but they just can't stop using it.
>>no culture war bullshit
This is revisionist history. There was a shitton of culture war bullshit in the Bush era. It was just that it was progressives pushing back against the dominant conservative values instead of the other way around. It wasn't driven by gay shit as much as it was shocking the conservative prudes and stuff to do with the War on Terror, so that might be why we don't remember it, but I remember the late 90s and post-9/11 era vividly.
Fair enough but I’m more referring to this nonstop political jihad we’re stuck in. We people were still extremely political but there wasn’t this sense of “if I don’t constantly shout about my beliefs then somehow the other side wins”. Like frick I still remember when people made fun of anita‘s “everything is political” statement but now it feels like both sides treat that as gospel and everything no matter how petty must be turned into a political battle.
The internet saw itself as independent from the bullshit and back then every single community worth it's salt explicitly banned ALL discussion talk.
The only humour that didn't get you trolled to oblivion was that lazy pseudo anarchist shit ie bush, conversative, creatinist jokes. But when the push came to shove all these people either shut up or risked being trolled themselves.
getting found out you attended to political rallies was painting a target on your ass.
yup. every forum worth its salt had boards to quarantine politic shit and mods existed to keep it there. so not every troll alive was getting their kicks turning any topic into outragebait. different world.
>muh conservative domination of culture
That is itself revisionism. Communism has been a big force in Western culture since the 50's. And before you get your panties in a twist, no, I don't mean "liberals are actually communists". I mean real, literal card-carrying communists. The Bush-era shit was already a rear guard fight, and on par with the book bans pushed through recently.
I'm about to get the rope. I want it back, bros....
To be a kid again in 2002, playing Jet Set Radio Future, hands still greasy from some McDonalds goyslop chicken mcnuggets, blasting some Linkin Park and Gorillaz, waiting for the next new episodes of Ed edd n Eddy, Dragonball Z, Samurai Jack, and Grim and Evil
Heh. I'd love to live in the late 90s/early 00s with two Saiyan girlfriends if I had the chance
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To be a kid again in 2002, playing Jet Set Radio Future, hands still greasy from some McDonalds goyslop chicken mcnuggets, blasting some Linkin Park and Gorillaz, waiting for the next new episodes of Ed edd n Eddy, Dragonball Z, Samurai Jack, and Grim and Evil
Now THAT hurts. A LOT.
There was no reason to break my heart like that.
Yes, but only somewhat. I can't comment much on it being born at the turn of the millenium, but I certainly did ride the coattails of the late 90s/ early 00s in some aspects
Flash animation, webcomics, the internet being relatively niche in its use, Bionicle and the sincerity people had to act like they thought what was cool.
Can't say much on the emo/goth business either. Mainly because I wasn't really old enough to interact with people from that sub-culture. Always saw various bits of Cinemaphile media making fun of them and goths though. My sibling did, however, thanks to her friend. But she got into it way late, around 2010. >I find it funny though because she got called a boy by some 5 year old thanks to her short haircut.
Anyway, I will fondly remember (and still have) all the video cassettes we have, as well as the handmedown Dreamcast my cousin gave to me before I moved onto the GBA and Xbox.
Yes. We could have fun and the things people made were done to look good to the eye. Now everything feels spiteful or boring, and designs tend to be either interchangeable or just ugly.
True. They were only laying the groundwork for dystopia back then. When they finally subdued the internet post 2010 was when things got really oppressive and the internet stopped being fun.
Anyone remember SOPA? It didn't pass thankfully but they made their intentions clear at that point. Turns out the trick to internet control wasn't through legislation like SOPA, but simply through illegal coertion of a handful of the biggest social media sites. live and learn I guess.
Proof that when we organize we can beat it politically. But corporations will often do for profit what politicians do for power.
Right now the censors in DC are pushing KOSA and the EARN IT act, proof we can never stop being vigilant with these frickers.
do you think zoomers will be nostalgic for the 2010's? as a zoomer i despised the 10's and i doubt i will ever feel nostalgia for it, only thing i miss is cute dorky fedora tipper atheists, they were the last kind of male nerd not poisoned by troonyism or altright ideology.
like what? it was an absolute cancer. Youtubers shifting from creative content to screaming at a camera, tumblr ruining everything, moronic antisjw homosexuals being used as bait to push censorship on the internet, raise of troonyism, the internet becoming centralized, traps becoming a mainstream meme and poisoning the well, wojacks.
2010 was a golden age for indie gaming. Many extremely popular franchises came out in that decade, even if you might not like them.
And stuff like the MCU was mostly enjoyed up to Endgame.
And those youtubers screaming at the camera were popular, people enjoyed them regardless of what you think.
>2010 was a golden age for indie gaming.
yeah just for fnaf to come out and annihilate the indie horror genre and turn it into a kids franchise, yeah i will truly feel nostalgia for that
Who the frick cares about you, this is about zoomer in general and MANY of them will be nostalgic for FNaF.
>And those youtubers screaming at the camera were popular, people enjoyed them regardless of what you think.
you think baby zoomies are going to grow up with nostalgia for elsagate and cocomelon? thats bleak
I thought you we're referring to vlogging and people doing stupid bs
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>this is about zoomer in general and MANY of them will be nostalgic for FNaF
that just speaks about how trash the 10s were that something as shitty as fnaf will be remembered with nostalgia. I dont doubt zoomers will be nostalgic for that trash, but i seriously doubt the future generations will be like ''oh wow i was born in 2015 i wish i was born in 2005 to enjoy the 10's culture'' like many zoomies now think about the 00s. It was a really shitty era.
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How many decades had this effect anyway? I can only think of the 50's, 80's, and maybe the 20's and 90's. People were nostalgic for like the 70's but not many people cared after.
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80's,90's and now 00's. I think many people like the culture of the 50's-70's but very few actually wish they were alive during those times.
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Maybe not now, but I'm pretty sure "I wish I was in the 50's" was a thing in the 80's
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maybe by old people, but i doubt kids/teens were hoping they were born in the 50s
>And those youtubers screaming at the camera were popular, people enjoyed them regardless of what you think.
you think baby zoomies are going to grow up with nostalgia for elsagate and cocomelon? thats bleak
>only thing i miss is cute dorky fedora tipper atheists, they were the last kind of male nerd not poisoned by troonyism or altright ideology.
man, I remember hating bronies so much as a teenager but I realised recently that they just kind of faded away sometime around 2015 without me even noticing
they were so harmless compared to the the internet subcultures we have now: hustle culture guys, troony social vampires, genderspecials, self-improvement dudebros, twitter commies, pick-up artists/incels, marble statue profile pic guys, kaczynski cultists, radical-chic anarchists, those guys who think Joshua Graham from that one dlc for Fallout: New Vegas is their dad, etc.
even those reminiscent of the old internet, like the party 'teens, still have a malicious feeling to them; if that makes sense.
the basedteens are actual pedophiles and are in constant battles with other pedos and their discords, it's the most 10's culture thing ever, i hate when people say ''it feels like the old internet''. They will never be /b/ and it's why the only kind of attention they get is from other zoomer wannabe edgelords like that Black person turkeytom.
it has only gotten worse, anon. They arent just trannies in pronouns anymore, most of them start taking horse piss hormones and cutting their breasts off, its not a 'mom its not a phase anymore!' its kids and teens(and moronic adults) becoming disabled for life thanks to this shit, also the detransitioners are harassed. You can grow out of your emo/goth phase, you cant grow out of your troonyphase.
Meanwhile, the things we found harmless (goth, punks, hackers, juggalos, metal kids, grunge kids, emo, gamers) get demonized in the media and future generations will think they're dangerous.
>man, I remember hating bronies so much as a teenager but I realised recently that they just kind of faded away sometime around 2015 without me even noticing
I started watching MLP when I was about 11. The thing I truly miss from early 2010s is the golden age of brony music. It got me into EDM. I listen some of those songs to this day.
Born in 94 here. Obviously I'm very nostalgic for shit like Bionicle, but I've recently been hit with a wave of early 2010s nostalgia. Taking the piss out of the early borny fandom, home stuck and tumblr were a fun aspect of my late high school/early college days. Also finding obscure usually lewd web comics on TV Tropes was pretty rad
What i miss most is the art.
I still draw the exact same as pic related, if not a little more skitzo. But i never truly grew out of my emo phase.
I still wear all black. Still look like a freaky skinny goth wannabe, and i still listen to the same music.
So those days of screaming”Its bot a phase mom” wasnt really lying, but more of just an argument for the aesthetics i like.
Going on 30, feels good bros. The times never left if you just embraced them when you had em.
Now im sitting in my room with mushroom paraphernalia all around me and artisanal teas cause im a weird fricking old zoomer whos into that whole “cottagecore shit” or whatever the kids call it.
>Now im sitting in my room with mushroom paraphernalia all around me and artisanal teas cause im a weird fricking old zoomer whos into that whole “cottagecore shit” or whatever the kids call it.
sounds comfy as frick, bro
I think modern internet hoes and artists made me hate fishnets. They think they can put on some black fishnets and some eyeshadow and go "Hey look, I'm goth. Stare at my ass". No frick off it's not goth if you barely dress the part, let alone act the part too, you frick.
When the hell did goths/emos majorly wear fishnets anyway? It was always tight-fitting jeans/jean shorts and MAYBE arm socks when I saw them.
...yeah I know this's an emo thread, but similar territory, bleh!
I wonder if Cinemaphile has tips on being emo... or if they're gatekeepy and autistic in the bad way, idk i never went there but wouldnt be surprised if they were.
No. Nostalgiagays will be triggered by this but basically everything since the 1990s has been a cultural decline into a generic nothingness, culminating in the current year of nearly every piece of popular media being a remix, sequel, or extension of past media. Everything meaningful has been ground down first by mindless consumerism, then by endless cynicism about said constumerism, then since the recession a barrage of critical theory until actual sincere culture has been worn down to nothing.
TL;DR having nostalgia for the 00s is like a skeleton having nostalgia for being a rotting corpse.
>t. moronic 40 YO out of touch
Y2K was the last all-encompasing and distinctly memorable aesthetic. It was present everywhere from fashion to media, and due to the fact that it was tied to the very emergence of the digital landscape means it's a foundational point. There absolutely is a ton to mine nostalgia-wise, and being unable to see it means you're either coping or are just moronic.
2000-2004 was the dregs of the late 90s so there's still some mainstream nostalgia to be squeezed out of that. However, 2005-2009 will be harder to use in mainstream nostalgia because things got more fragmented and internet-driven and Hollywood started its endless remake/reboot cycle.
EVERY DAY
LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK LET ME GO BACK
I will never not miss it. I know I look back on those days with rose-tinted glasses because not everything was perfect; my parents shielded me from the really bad shit happening in the world because I was a kid and they wanted me to be innocent. But some things I feel were objectively better. >Less emphasis on social media and the internet, now the whole net is corporation driven >Technological advances were new and exciting, now everything has gone too far with the rise of AI stealing creative jobs from humans and it will only get worse >Less culture wars bullshit, sure political shitflinging has always existed but it used to be a lot more manageable >Lots of 2000s stufff still resonates with me and I can always go back to it for comfort
>We can never go back. How do we cope?
We don't. We keep pushing forward and hope that things will get better in the future, and doing everything we can to make that future a possibility. Hard times create strong men, friend.
I was a kid so obviously, but that has to be nostalgia bias.
i'm fricking zoomer, I born in that year...
I remember no shit
2003 zoomer here. It hurts so much...
Damn, I was born in 2002 and around 2008 or so my parents actually bought a computer, I mostly just used it for youtube or to look at Ben 10 pics on google images. Sometimes I daydream that if I knew english back then, and had an older mind I could've experienced the magic just as it was going down, but these are just fantasies.
>to look at Ben 10 pics
What KIND of Ben 10 pics exactly?
Anon he literally just said he was 4, can you please get your mind out of the gutter? What the frick is wrong with you?
I would just type "Ben 10" in the search bar and then try to copy on paper the images I thought were coolest, that's it. I did realize however, that if I scrolled too deep some weird shit would start appearing.
Sir you have to be at least 18 to.... oh. Oh no....
Oh shit
The calendar lies
Mathematics lies
There's not possible way 2000 was 23 years ago. That's not possible. Everyone born after 1995 should still be in diapers.
You laugh but will come a time when you talk about the 2010s and adult will talk about being born then. Your time on this mortal coil is finite never forget that.
Idk maybe? I do 100% miss the y2k aesthetics.
Indeed, it was an era that I sensed it as an extension or bond of late 90s...
Speaking of, in which year did you feel that 90s or the 2000's vibes start to fade?
after the 2008 crisis, things started to really go downhill in all aspects of life
emo arose because life was so good that teens had to invent despair in order to practice counterculture.
nowadays things are so shit and getting so much worse all the time that you're not "emo", just a normal person responding to the world
2001 kid here so I can't say anything for the 90's, but since decades are arbitrary limits, I say there was period from 2006~2008 to 2013~2016 that felt very distinct from the years before of after. It was when the internet finally became mainstream but at the same time it still hadn't taken over our lives.
>Speaking of, in which year did you feel that 90s or the 2000's vibes start to fade?
Some would argue things started to decline in 2008, but things were still okayish until 2010. That was the turning point.
In fact, if you look at it, the world tends to get a little worse at the end of each decade.
>1999: dot com crash and 9/11
>2009: financial crisis and societal decay accelerates
>2019: coof and global lockdowns
It's almost as if there are people behind the scenes with globalist ambitions who operate in 10 year plans who tinker with the fabric of society to achieve their own goals. Some would even argue that they have an Agenda for 2030 and that things will probably get even worse in 2029 as well. So enjoy the good old days now, because you are living in them. But I'm sure its all coincidence.
https://sdgs.un.org/2030agenda
>1999
>9/11
Huh?
Robot.
It's that "turn of the century" era. You would understand if you were there. Kinda like how covid showed up in late 2019 but the vaccine rollout wasn't until 2021. Things don't always line up perfectly on a calendar for people like you but its still the same "covid era". 9/11 was the dramatic end to the era of relative peace that was the 1990's and things got worse because of it just like with covid.
Beep beep.
Yeah 9/11 definitely played a part in the decline but I feel like it wasn't the exact breaking point.
You're right, in fact I personally feel that the breaking point was around 2010 like I posted earlier, but thats just me. Everything just got "lame" after 2010, like society just gave up and died.
Ever since 1999 there just seems to be something that happens at the end of each decade or early in the next that just makes everything worse. It's wierd.
Whereas in the 90s at the beginning of the decade they had the Berlin wall fall which marked a decade of good times.
Yes, the fall of the USSR was good for (most) of the world.
It kinda looks like the end of every decade in recent history was a turning point, 1979 saw the end of a decade of crippling inflation in the U.S. and 1989 saw the beginning of the end of the Cold War.
Its just 1999 (dotcom bubble, 9/11), 2009 (depth of 2008 financial crisis), and 2019 (coof unleashed) that have been terrible turing points. I wonder what changed, and why things always seem to shift only at the end of each decade.
Makes me wonder how 2029 will turn out...
Don't forget
1919 - Eighteenth Amendment passes prohibiting alcohol
1929 - Beginning of the Great Depression
1939 - WWII declared
>1919 - alcohol is prohibited
>1920 - the start of the most alcoholic decade in American history
Weird how banning things always just makes it worse.
Glad I'm not the only one noticing this trend.
Cute kot
>9/11
>fall of the USSR was good
>majority of the world was left to the mercy of mutt bankers' whims
Stealing the wealth of the USSR only put an already failing system of life support and made way for the 9/11 future. Culture and the economy stagnated without an ideological enemy.
The French Revolution was the breaking point. Then after that there were a series of other breaking points. But really the French Revolution and the death of Louis XVI was the original Shattering.
>Speaking of, in which year did you feel that 90s or the 2000's vibes start to fade?
September 2001
I honestly didn't enjoy the 00's. I get why zoomers romanticize them because they see the sanitized version that they didn't have to live through. I liked some aspects of it, mostly the gaming and comics. But everything else was just the punished edit of the 90s. The music sucked, r&b was worse, rap was worse. That covers 99% of what you would hear on the radio, but also rock and yes pop punk/emo was worse too. Manga was my only escape from the shitty culture of the time, that was the other good thing about the 00s, that was when manga exploded in America.
>they didn't have to live through
The oldest zoomers were born in the late 90's. We could say it's rose tinted glasses but many of us lived through the 2000's.
That's fair, I guess when you're a kid it's easy to ignore the bad stuff. I probably have some rose colored glasses for the 90s too (born 88).
Sometimes I get surprised by something that happened during my child years (2000's and early 2010's) because it goes against the impression I had of the time.
For example, people think that the Cinemaphilentent from back in the day was less political mainly because we were kids and it all went over our heads. Spongebob doing a minstrel show about squirrels or Squidward going on strike are things that meant nothing to me because I had no context of what it was.
(I'm not denying that things have changed, but there is a bias when looking back)
Late 90s are zillennials.
what is it that zoomers romanticise about the 2000's?
For me it was that I could say politicaly incorrect things and have the internet has a refuge form the moronic normalgays irl.
I miss the "Wild Frontier" aspect where people were experimenting across whatever site they could find to see what went viral, before it became 'influencer' farmers diluting the search, and how low the bar was for fanimation.
A million ways for ladies to look, and now it's all the kardashian "secret".
The cat I posted was supposed to be a dude, anon.
A dude who ended up getting two wives before he died.
I have a serious case of Anemoia for the early 2000s especially ever since i witnessed it’s vibe.
Yes
Yes. Also, half of Cinemaphile wasn’t even born yet. No use asking.
I was a fetus back then
I really miss the dark, emo/goth stuff, or dark topics and aesthetic in general, things used to be more risky. Nowadays every single thing must be PG-13 and being "riskt" and "counter culture" is to promote LGBT+ corporate shilling.
where i can read the lenore comics?
readcomiconline
the problem is that morden day culture is run by twitter frickers. at least on the sensivility side
I fricking hate the emo aesthetic (I wished the OG 70s metalhead look came back right at the time the goffik/nu metal/emogay thing was at its peak that I grew my hair out but that just got me accused of being emo somehow) but I would gladly take it back over what we have now
>of course it was emos who led to what we have now
The edgy stuff nowadays is the sort of frat-nerd-right-wing punk rock hybrid thing we have going on over here. It lacks a certain level of sincerity honestly.
Yuli-Ban, the guy who created this stuff:
and a personal friend of mine, also created this collage for the late 90s early 2000s
Though I don't think it was supposed to be celebratory, every time I look at it, my desire to go back nudges just a little bit higher
>No Johnny the Homocidal Maniac
fake pic
>Sable
Oh I dream of being a hormonal youth again during the Attitude Era.
Hot take, I prefer the Attitude Era of pop culture over the Y2K era (even if they crossed over a lot)
Gimme nu metal and skater punk and edgy low-poly 3D games over drum n bass techno and Spice Girls. It was massively dumb and stupid, but at least it was fun.
Watched these UK Nicktoons idents from 2007 last night and was almost embarrassed by how much the nostalgia affected me
No. Just let it dissappear
More of a late than early 2000s guy but yeah. I miss those days. Especially now.
Is it just the media getting to my head or is it justified to feel like we're reaching some kind of societal collapse?
Nah everyone can feel it
i think the 2000s had a good balance between digital and traditional.
cartoons nowadays feel too touched by the computer rather than the artist
early 2000's yes
Back when daily webcomics were more varied than heckin relatable viral bait
TRANSGENDER CYBORG SONIC…IN GAY STARFLEET?
there are no winners
It's sad.
Any time before 2008.
I didn't have much internet access until I got a PSP so I wasn't really exposed to the culture
is there a name for this kind of art style highly compressed and pixelated inspired by old internet? I'm just finding pixel art and vaporwave shit
Not sure if it has a exact term but generally typing "Y2K aesthetic" plus what ever term you want to specify; "goth" "emo" "gamer" etc; tends to work for me.
it worked, thanks
when I put "y2k" it was modern style stuff with y2k references and clothes, but "y2k aesthetic" did the trick
Np. Now it's not perfect and you'll probably won't get much actually posted from that era but it's the best way that ik of.
OG Newgrounds?
Str8nime?
Slave Labor Graphics-core?
>Str8nime?
Now that's a term I haven't heard in a hot minute....
Agreed man. Hell I'd completely forgot about it until I looked it up again and got hit like a truck.
Always thought that commercial was some weird fever dream.
>Clearly looks like a Matoro Mahri
>But wears a Pakari
Wut
It's clearly just Onua, you Fenrakk fricker!
used to make fun of emos and scenes back in the day, now I regret not being part of it and trying to get a qt emo gf...
and the music was not that bad at all
Well now that emo has made a comeback. Maybe you can be the emo you always wanted
Yeah. I miss when boys talked about how cool pistols are and girls where talking about how cute the new DS was
nah, now it's just zoomer twitter/tiktok algorithm trend shit, and I'm too old for that
You too? Yeah, I was bullied a lot at school and annoy goth or emo people to feel better but now I just regret it. Some girls were cute but of course, I had to throw that mug ball at her
I know right? I was picked on sometimes for being a nerd and was adopted by the normalgay clique which kind of protected me, but emos at least were legit and a lot close to each other. Don't know if the nostalgia is messing my mind, but their girls were the cutest: introspective, quiet, nonconfrontational, nonopinionated and passionate about music, games, art. They had nice personalities
1. What were the reasons behind the emo hate back in the day?
2. Could it gain an appreciation movement like hoe much goths are loved now?
In my case, they just looked weird and that made them target of bullying. I mean, I was bullied a lot too (I was a nerd, big glasses, short, skinny) but bullied them was some way of relase my frustration, anger and sadness.
Second, I don't know. Egirls and "alt" girls are becoming a thing that is making some girls want to be on the "old school" goth and stuff like that
Emos were mocked for being whiny little b***hes and because they looked gay and dressed up like discount goths. I don't see the emo movement coming back anytime soon, if ever - it only makes sense when you're a hormonal teenager, so it would have to trend on Tiktok or whatever social media platform zoomers are using these days to even have a chance. The goth "comeback" seems to be pretty much only the aesthetics (which were always superior to the emo look even when that was popular) and not the attitude or the music that came with the subculture.
Same reason why furries are hated today despite the fact that most of them are harmless.
Goths were always conscious outcasts, which comes with a level of retrospective cool, kind of like how nerd culture has been mined for coolness. Like nerds, they were also omnipresent, and if you went to high school in a certain period, you've seen goths. If you were a nerd, you have probably hanged with goths at one point or another. Emo was just more of a style in general, and it'd be more akin to valley girls becoming a thing again.
Yeah
so far my life peaked in 2006 during first grade
We don't need multiple threads for your forced nostalgia.
Geez, just look at all the awesome threads they're pushing off the catalog, what a shame
I miss the freedom, the media, the culture (even though all of it was a shadow of the peak we hit in 80s). The only thing I don't miss is the slow internet and other obsolete tech.
>obsolete tech.
Like what specifically?
Not him but i remember having a CD walkman, then a Zune, also a gameboy (forgot what model) and then a DS
The Zune was extremely durable, lasted until like 2012, i remember it had very good storage space for the time too, maybe 100 gb
>gameboy, ds
Those I wouldn't call obsolete but retro. I think James Rolfe said it best that retro stuff is old but still fun to go back to. Whereas obsolete stuff is old stuff that you never want to go back to, you're glad its been replaced. Like the walkman for example.
Almost everything. Phones were huge bricks that died quickly. TVs were these huge things a grown man is challenged to lift alone. Monitors were small and digital media low res. Computers were slow as frick, it took literal hours to install a game from disc, and then they didn't work half the time because some component or soft was incompatible and good fricking luck figuring out which. Lots of people still had VCRs and DVD players weren't that much better, you didn't have a fraction of the control you have on a PC and obviously had to have physical media. If you wanted to listen to music, you had to have a mp3 player or a walkman. Good luck figuring out where to go since GPS was an expensive separate thing, and forget (effective and affordable) internet on the go. But maybe I'm remembering late 90s early 00s, most of that stuff was gone when 2010 rolled around.
That's all correct but it didnt really matter since we didnt have anything to compare it to. Well PC gaming was actually a frustrating pain in the ass. But its not like we were watching low-res DVD's on our CRT or early flat-screen thinking "fuuuuck i wish i had a cool 4K TV right now", we just enjoyed what we had.
Remember when their motto was "Don't be evil"? If anything that should've been the first sign, non-evil entities don't typically have to remind themselves not to be evil.
Honestly I wish we could have a modern gaming PC looking like one of these bad boys instead of all that LED bullshit
I mean if you know how to build PCs then you can recycle the shells from everything in this picture with all of the modern technology you want.
Frick you guys, I would kill for a modern take on a Blackberry. Phones peaked with the Blackberry.
I miss all the random websites like starterupsteve
same. i know a bunch are still technically around but having a forum for every little thing and then random sites like albinoblacksheep made the internet feel so vast. theres like 5 websites now and they all read the same ;_;
I miss when Jhonen Vasquez didn't have an outlet to be a complete wienersucking homosexual and just made cartoons.
While the aggression is mostly unwarranted I have to agree, I miss JTHM like you wouldn't believe.
>born in 88
i would killed the entire state of California just to spend 20 minutes in 2006
I think like many that grew up around that era, I miss it. But so much of that nostalgia from people is misguided. everyone claims to miss that time but then shun the more raunchy aspects as if they weren't part of why it was enjoyable. Either that or they view it from the warped nu-2010s ironic lense of calling it "cringy" because they can't admit to liking anything.
It was a new millennium, a chance to experiment and find new styles. And as others in this thread have already touched on, the internet was old enough to be widespread but not completely bent over by companies. A lot of technological advancements and new subcultures bloomed in a short amount of time.
It was a nice contrast to some very terrible events that also occurred during that time. So it was sort of easy to be so carefree, the world felt like it was moving forward. And that's really the biggest difference between then and now. Corporate interests have practically strangled innovation and art, and they also continue to shit up the net. And considering we've made internet our lives now, it's like we're eating a sandwich made only out of bread. It's tasteless, no substance. Combine that with the cynicism as a reaction to those events and you basically get a feedback loop of crap.
Perhaps if we paid closer attention to the themes of the 00's instead of just the content, we'd maybe be able to find ourselves more at peace in a similarly troubled world.
We can't admit to like anything because we get bullied if we do
certainly. I'm not denying that people are reacting that way for a reason. but it reminds me a lot of high school culture in the way people are now just immediately ostracized for not being what's popular. ironic, considering the internet was nerd heaven not even 10-20 years ago. It's almost ike we've regressed because the world is starting to cramp on our little monkey brains; with no escapism to help us cope.
I laugh at sóyjak bs but it did a terrible damage to culture. Even worse is when people accuse you of being a subhuman because you happen to enjoy some hobby.
I think this is probably the worst time to be a neckbeard (I prefer the term over nerd) on how hard it's to find new content that pander to suckers like me.
>I laught at soijak bs
You're part of the problem, homosexual.
but the wojak faces are so funny I can't help myself
in the social aspect people are behaving like high school cliques on steroids, it was normal to be anxious trying to fit in and avoid bullying, and once you found your place you picked on other people, but now this is applied to everyone and it's done like witch hunting, instead of your misfit punishment being eating alone at lunch and some jokes, they now can get you poor, homeless and miserable, that's why "virgin" and "shutin" became such widespread insults now even if untrue, ironically, as a nerd in highschool people never called me that, but now if you have an opinion or a slighty different lifestyle its almost daily, social media has done irreversible damage to society
>half of these are dead and half have changed beyond recognition
Google would look like a supervillain at this point.
where's reddit? tf?
It was a different time.
How old is this?
My guess is 2010-2012, when myspace was a ghost town but still up an well-known as a memory, when tumblr's reputation wasn't completely destroyed, and when spotify didn't exist or at least wasn't known compared to pandora.
Just reverse image searched and it's from 2011.
You can tell this pic is old because half the websites aren’t portrayed as fat brown lesbians or as actively evil
we really were having the least fun during that period
i wish i didn't spend my childhood as an anonymous nobody
Yes, 2004 was the best year ever for me, nothing has come close ever since
i do, but not so much, broadband internet became available in rural areas in my country at around 2007, i only remember watching knd, megas xlr, and some old 2005 cn, and being oblivious to all the death and suffering in the world
I miss when things were edgy but sincere, ugly but fascinating, and incompetent but experimental. Everything now just feels disingenuous and watered down and recycled. I can't remember the last time I looked forward to something. This can't just be me getting older.
If it makes you feel better, I feel the same way.
Same. I want a return of the forced edginess and weird tribal tattoos and bad cg. Feels more alive then anything current
>forced edginess
what do you think the bs people do in Cinemaphile (particularly /misc/tards) is?
People scurrying in a rat hole to shout Black person and homosexual while Vettans of the board complain the new generation is ruining everything about their identity
Black person homosexual
I miss when counterculture was a real thing. At some point it went from an insurgency against the mainstream to an evenly matched culture war. Now I feel like an African villager trapped between the Freedom Fighters of Mgombo and the Mgombolese Liberation Front and both of them are just making my life hell.
I love y2k aesthetics
Every day. I know that part of it is nostalgia that anyone has for their childhood, but it's not just that, a noticeable, factual descend has been happening in the last 10+ years. What I miss the most, as others have said, was that it was an era of various aesthetics, genres and a general experimental nature. The world was vibrant and diverse. Not just speaking about art here, the sun shone brighter, the seas were more vibrant, everything felt "real". And that was reflected in movies and shows and videogames and everything. The aesthetic of the era was this sort of New Millennium, I will not say optimism, but rather belief in a more "advanced" future. Everything was sleek and shiny. Look at Halo and later Mass Effect. There was this sense that despite everything, we were on an upwards trend and we'd keep going and going and... It was that period that was more or less the progenitor of the iPhone, which signaled the collapse of everything, funny enough.
But beyond that, to keep it more Cinemaphile, there was just so much actual genre diversity. You had the more streamlined Sci-Fi, as part of how "techy" the "New Millennium" sounded, but you also had a dedicated Goth revival scene. You had straight-edge and actual edge. It was a time where everything from small indies to horror existed and created a coherent but diverse tapestry. You pick up a comic, play a game, watch a movie now, and they're all the exact same thing. The exact same blandness. Halo looks like cardboard boxes painted over. DUNC took THE Space Opera and turned it into a Brutalist greyness. Digital completely killed the vibrancy of film. Everything is a lifeless copy of some pre-agreed quasi-neoliberal values that seep into every single thing, killing any sort of atmosphere or innovation.
It all just felt so much bigger back then. You read Morrison's X-Men and it felt epic. You read X-Men now, and despite it being set in a literal sentient island and Mars, it feels so incredibly limited.
Couldn't even wait thirty years.
>no u
Yeah, great.
There's already pockets of nostalgia about the early 10s, but that's it. I can't see anyone being nostalgic about anything beyond 2013 at the latest. Say what you will about hipsters, but there was a sort of subculture you can use to give the time a "face". That, combined with the fact that compared to what we have now they seem like a fun time, and you're bound to get nostalgia from someone who was 13 at the time and just barely taking part in it by wearing a vest that one time. From the mid-00s it becomes less and less easy to have a general nostalgia though, as everything started slowly becoming more hegemonic. Nostalgia however is a thing everyone has on some level, the question is how widespread it gets because that's when it becomes "real".
But the truth is that nostalgia is also carried by the 20-25 year periods that studios attempt to cash in on. I don't think that in 2030-2040 we'll have anything resembling the current system, so for my money the Y2K nostalgia they're trying to set up now is the last that will exist in the vein we're used to.
Think about it. What's even left to be nostalgic about? The movie star has died. Magazines have died. Even handhelds have died. The things that made the 80s and 90s prime for nostalgia mining material died in the 10s. There's no dominant aesthetic, nothing to build a movie like The Wedding Singer around. It can't be packaged and sold to the world at large, so there'll be no mass
>membah when
sort of "movement" like we've seen with the decades prior. We'll get some Y2K and that'll be the last.
memphis design will always remain the superior aesthetic
And 70s to 80's How's called?
People will be nostalgic for the 2010's for the MCU, Undertale, FNaF, Minecraft (already happened) and others.
test
i took it all for granted and passed the time when i should of chrished the days
I was an '03 zoomer so i'd have been like 6 when the 2000s ended.
looking back now i wish i was born earlier tbh
i'm not even one of those "le wrong generation XD" morons and i appreciate certain aspects of the era which i came of age in but i just feel like everything cool or fun passed me by.
All of the time.
I miss not only the cartoons, anime, music and video games of the time.
But I miss when people were less sensitive, jokes were understood as jokes, and LGBT+ people kept to themselves as homophobia and transphobia was rampant, and the billions of genders would have them laughed right out of the room.
Yeah...
I miss her even more.
The best thing the 2000's brought.
Blessed is he who created her.
I miss it so
And that's it 4 now! >w<
>.>
<.<
*o*
What is the name of this project? I MUST harness it's "fractured take" on modern-life.
the answer is in every page of the diary that you've read.
>"fractured take" on modern-life.
huh?
>no irony poison
>no culture war bullshit
>the internet wasn’t overly corporatized
>shock content could exist
>internet subcultures were a thing
>flash
>goth girls were real
Frick man take me back
the true decline of society began with the iphone. the internet was still niche outside of the office space until then. with the introduction of apple's c**tphone, now anyone could have unlimited internet access in the palm of their hands no matter where they are. everyone connected to every facet of the internet at all hours of the day. convenience compounding to the point where we get addicted to our favorite website, even if we actually fricking hate it. just look at twitter users. all they do is b***h about twitter, but they just can't stop using it.
>>no culture war bullshit
This is revisionist history. There was a shitton of culture war bullshit in the Bush era. It was just that it was progressives pushing back against the dominant conservative values instead of the other way around. It wasn't driven by gay shit as much as it was shocking the conservative prudes and stuff to do with the War on Terror, so that might be why we don't remember it, but I remember the late 90s and post-9/11 era vividly.
Fair enough but I’m more referring to this nonstop political jihad we’re stuck in. We people were still extremely political but there wasn’t this sense of “if I don’t constantly shout about my beliefs then somehow the other side wins”. Like frick I still remember when people made fun of anita‘s “everything is political” statement but now it feels like both sides treat that as gospel and everything no matter how petty must be turned into a political battle.
everything was political back then too, you had constant bush jokes and proto redditors pushing against the imaginary enemy of creationism.
why it's imaginary?
No, it wasn't political. It was satirical.
The internet saw itself as independent from the bullshit and back then every single community worth it's salt explicitly banned ALL discussion talk.
The only humour that didn't get you trolled to oblivion was that lazy pseudo anarchist shit ie bush, conversative, creatinist jokes. But when the push came to shove all these people either shut up or risked being trolled themselves.
getting found out you attended to political rallies was painting a target on your ass.
yup. every forum worth its salt had boards to quarantine politic shit and mods existed to keep it there. so not every troll alive was getting their kicks turning any topic into outragebait. different world.
>muh conservative domination of culture
That is itself revisionism. Communism has been a big force in Western culture since the 50's. And before you get your panties in a twist, no, I don't mean "liberals are actually communists". I mean real, literal card-carrying communists. The Bush-era shit was already a rear guard fight, and on par with the book bans pushed through recently.
Frick the nostalgia of this, and the realization that it's all gone, hurts so much.
I wanna go back
Hey, yaban-verse. Brings me back
>Blockbuster
I'm about to get the rope. I want it back, bros....
To be a kid again in 2002, playing Jet Set Radio Future, hands still greasy from some McDonalds goyslop chicken mcnuggets, blasting some Linkin Park and Gorillaz, waiting for the next new episodes of Ed edd n Eddy, Dragonball Z, Samurai Jack, and Grim and Evil
I wanna go back so fricking bad bros...
Goddamn. Don't we all.
Oh I dream of yesterday
Heh. I'd love to live in the late 90s/early 00s with two Saiyan girlfriends if I had the chance
Now THAT hurts. A LOT.
There was no reason to break my heart like that.
why are they holding the controllers that way
The boy, I don't know.
The Saiyan girl looks like she's using her tail to handle the middle prong (which is genius)
What even were those middle prongs meant for? Why were N64 controllers designed for aliens?
Yes, but only somewhat. I can't comment much on it being born at the turn of the millenium, but I certainly did ride the coattails of the late 90s/ early 00s in some aspects
Flash animation, webcomics, the internet being relatively niche in its use, Bionicle and the sincerity people had to act like they thought what was cool.
Can't say much on the emo/goth business either. Mainly because I wasn't really old enough to interact with people from that sub-culture. Always saw various bits of Cinemaphile media making fun of them and goths though. My sibling did, however, thanks to her friend. But she got into it way late, around 2010.
>I find it funny though because she got called a boy by some 5 year old thanks to her short haircut.
Anyway, I will fondly remember (and still have) all the video cassettes we have, as well as the handmedown Dreamcast my cousin gave to me before I moved onto the GBA and Xbox.
No
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/taGpLze5K3g
>zoomers are now romanticizing MY childhood
I'm gonna romanticize you.
I desire that which I never fully got the chance to experience before it all went to shit.
<3
Yes. We could have fun and the things people made were done to look good to the eye. Now everything feels spiteful or boring, and designs tend to be either interchangeable or just ugly.
No, I miss the 90s, which were the 00s but no Dubya Bush, no PATRIOT Act, all freedom.
>90s
>all freedom
KNOCK KNOCK DISSIDENT
Yet the 90s were still amazingly free compared to the dystopia we now live in.
True. They were only laying the groundwork for dystopia back then. When they finally subdued the internet post 2010 was when things got really oppressive and the internet stopped being fun.
Anyone remember SOPA? It didn't pass thankfully but they made their intentions clear at that point. Turns out the trick to internet control wasn't through legislation like SOPA, but simply through illegal coertion of a handful of the biggest social media sites. live and learn I guess.
Proof that when we organize we can beat it politically. But corporations will often do for profit what politicians do for power.
Right now the censors in DC are pushing KOSA and the EARN IT act, proof we can never stop being vigilant with these frickers.
Pretty much.
It was a different time before the iPhone was introduced.
I was to young for it but I still miss it.
And now in modern year the sentiment that GIR is expressing will get you kicked out of cons
I miss the emo aesthetics and wish could've been a part of it. They were the nicest kids I meet in school contrary to the depressed loner narrative.
More than life itself
do you think zoomers will be nostalgic for the 2010's? as a zoomer i despised the 10's and i doubt i will ever feel nostalgia for it, only thing i miss is cute dorky fedora tipper atheists, they were the last kind of male nerd not poisoned by troonyism or altright ideology.
They already are, many fun things happened during that age, though I'll be called a sóyboy if I list them
Observations are not the same as judgements.
like what? it was an absolute cancer. Youtubers shifting from creative content to screaming at a camera, tumblr ruining everything, moronic antisjw homosexuals being used as bait to push censorship on the internet, raise of troonyism, the internet becoming centralized, traps becoming a mainstream meme and poisoning the well, wojacks.
2010 was a golden age for indie gaming. Many extremely popular franchises came out in that decade, even if you might not like them.
And stuff like the MCU was mostly enjoyed up to Endgame.
And those youtubers screaming at the camera were popular, people enjoyed them regardless of what you think.
>2010 was a golden age for indie gaming.
yeah just for fnaf to come out and annihilate the indie horror genre and turn it into a kids franchise, yeah i will truly feel nostalgia for that
Who the frick cares about you, this is about zoomer in general and MANY of them will be nostalgic for FNaF.
I thought you we're referring to vlogging and people doing stupid bs
>this is about zoomer in general and MANY of them will be nostalgic for FNaF
that just speaks about how trash the 10s were that something as shitty as fnaf will be remembered with nostalgia. I dont doubt zoomers will be nostalgic for that trash, but i seriously doubt the future generations will be like ''oh wow i was born in 2015 i wish i was born in 2005 to enjoy the 10's culture'' like many zoomies now think about the 00s. It was a really shitty era.
How many decades had this effect anyway? I can only think of the 50's, 80's, and maybe the 20's and 90's. People were nostalgic for like the 70's but not many people cared after.
80's,90's and now 00's. I think many people like the culture of the 50's-70's but very few actually wish they were alive during those times.
Maybe not now, but I'm pretty sure "I wish I was in the 50's" was a thing in the 80's
maybe by old people, but i doubt kids/teens were hoping they were born in the 50s
>And those youtubers screaming at the camera were popular, people enjoyed them regardless of what you think.
you think baby zoomies are going to grow up with nostalgia for elsagate and cocomelon? thats bleak
>only thing i miss is cute dorky fedora tipper atheists, they were the last kind of male nerd not poisoned by troonyism or altright ideology.
man, I remember hating bronies so much as a teenager but I realised recently that they just kind of faded away sometime around 2015 without me even noticing
they were so harmless compared to the the internet subcultures we have now: hustle culture guys, troony social vampires, genderspecials, self-improvement dudebros, twitter commies, pick-up artists/incels, marble statue profile pic guys, kaczynski cultists, radical-chic anarchists, those guys who think Joshua Graham from that one dlc for Fallout: New Vegas is their dad, etc.
even those reminiscent of the old internet, like the party 'teens, still have a malicious feeling to them; if that makes sense.
the basedteens are actual pedophiles and are in constant battles with other pedos and their discords, it's the most 10's culture thing ever, i hate when people say ''it feels like the old internet''. They will never be /b/ and it's why the only kind of attention they get is from other zoomer wannabe edgelords like that Black person turkeytom.
People are gonna think most of those listed there were harmless in the future when they don't have to actually deal with them.
remember in the mid 10s when people said nonbiary/troons were just a fad? lol, they are here to stay and will keep ruining everything you love
detransitioning will only become more common
I doubt the vast majority of these enbie teens will stay with the label their whole lives
it has only gotten worse, anon. They arent just trannies in pronouns anymore, most of them start taking horse piss hormones and cutting their breasts off, its not a 'mom its not a phase anymore!' its kids and teens(and moronic adults) becoming disabled for life thanks to this shit, also the detransitioners are harassed. You can grow out of your emo/goth phase, you cant grow out of your troonyphase.
Meanwhile, the things we found harmless (goth, punks, hackers, juggalos, metal kids, grunge kids, emo, gamers) get demonized in the media and future generations will think they're dangerous.
>man, I remember hating bronies so much as a teenager but I realised recently that they just kind of faded away sometime around 2015 without me even noticing
I started watching MLP when I was about 11. The thing I truly miss from early 2010s is the golden age of brony music. It got me into EDM. I listen some of those songs to this day.
I've seen zoomers get nostalgic over COVID lockdowns.
Don't any of you notice how all you've been repeating the same things boomers talked about millenials?
most people complaining about zoomers are zoomers themselves
yeah ..
Born in 94 here. Obviously I'm very nostalgic for shit like Bionicle, but I've recently been hit with a wave of early 2010s nostalgia. Taking the piss out of the early borny fandom, home stuck and tumblr were a fun aspect of my late high school/early college days. Also finding obscure usually lewd web comics on TV Tropes was pretty rad
we will never return to the good times...
In a cheesy way to say, the good times are with us.
What i miss most is the art.
I still draw the exact same as pic related, if not a little more skitzo. But i never truly grew out of my emo phase.
I still wear all black. Still look like a freaky skinny goth wannabe, and i still listen to the same music.
So those days of screaming”Its bot a phase mom” wasnt really lying, but more of just an argument for the aesthetics i like.
Going on 30, feels good bros. The times never left if you just embraced them when you had em.
Now im sitting in my room with mushroom paraphernalia all around me and artisanal teas cause im a weird fricking old zoomer whos into that whole “cottagecore shit” or whatever the kids call it.
You sound like an insufferable gayboy
i want to cum in you
Bet! When and where?
>Now im sitting in my room with mushroom paraphernalia all around me and artisanal teas cause im a weird fricking old zoomer whos into that whole “cottagecore shit” or whatever the kids call it.
sounds comfy as frick, bro
Which are you
Yes, very nostalgic for it
Early zoomer, born in 1998.
late millennial
Early zoomers but honestly I grew up with a lot of stuff millenials did as well
Same.
>no mention of the 2008 stock market crash
I think I remember there being a version that did mention it.
The stock market is not kid culture.
I think modern internet hoes and artists made me hate fishnets. They think they can put on some black fishnets and some eyeshadow and go "Hey look, I'm goth. Stare at my ass". No frick off it's not goth if you barely dress the part, let alone act the part too, you frick.
When the hell did goths/emos majorly wear fishnets anyway? It was always tight-fitting jeans/jean shorts and MAYBE arm socks when I saw them.
...yeah I know this's an emo thread, but similar territory, bleh!
Is it possible to be emo without dyeing your hair? Or is full black and/or frosted tips a requirement?
...I like my natural hair being blonde :c
I wonder if Cinemaphile has tips on being emo... or if they're gatekeepy and autistic in the bad way, idk i never went there but wouldnt be surprised if they were.
No. Nostalgiagays will be triggered by this but basically everything since the 1990s has been a cultural decline into a generic nothingness, culminating in the current year of nearly every piece of popular media being a remix, sequel, or extension of past media. Everything meaningful has been ground down first by mindless consumerism, then by endless cynicism about said constumerism, then since the recession a barrage of critical theory until actual sincere culture has been worn down to nothing.
TL;DR having nostalgia for the 00s is like a skeleton having nostalgia for being a rotting corpse.
You sound like a fun and very nice person who I'd love to spend time getting to know
>t. moronic 40 YO out of touch
Y2K was the last all-encompasing and distinctly memorable aesthetic. It was present everywhere from fashion to media, and due to the fact that it was tied to the very emergence of the digital landscape means it's a foundational point. There absolutely is a ton to mine nostalgia-wise, and being unable to see it means you're either coping or are just moronic.
2000-2004 was the dregs of the late 90s so there's still some mainstream nostalgia to be squeezed out of that. However, 2005-2009 will be harder to use in mainstream nostalgia because things got more fragmented and internet-driven and Hollywood started its endless remake/reboot cycle.
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I will never not miss it. I know I look back on those days with rose-tinted glasses because not everything was perfect; my parents shielded me from the really bad shit happening in the world because I was a kid and they wanted me to be innocent. But some things I feel were objectively better.
>Less emphasis on social media and the internet, now the whole net is corporation driven
>Technological advances were new and exciting, now everything has gone too far with the rise of AI stealing creative jobs from humans and it will only get worse
>Less culture wars bullshit, sure political shitflinging has always existed but it used to be a lot more manageable
>Lots of 2000s stufff still resonates with me and I can always go back to it for comfort
We can never go back. How do we cope?
>We can never go back. How do we cope?
We don't. We keep pushing forward and hope that things will get better in the future, and doing everything we can to make that future a possibility. Hard times create strong men, friend.