>but I don't know about Mark
okay this concerns me. It's not that I don't trust Lynch himself, but Inland Empire is shit and Twin Peaks has always been a 'The Lynch and Frost show' type deal. look what happened when Vince Gilligan went solo - El Camino is fricking shit.
That and season 3 is (no hyperbole) literally perfect. I'm happy with how it ended an prefer everyone to leave their game at the very top. Any notions of 'I'm getting old, I need to do one more thing before I die' tends to be a mistake.
>but I don't know about Mark
okay this concerns me. It's not that I don't trust Lynch himself, but Inland Empire is shit and Twin Peaks has always been a 'The Lynch and Frost show' type deal. look what happened when Vince Gilligan went solo - El Camino is fricking shit.
That and season 3 is (no hyperbole) literally perfect. I'm happy with how it ended an prefer everyone to leave their game at the very top. Any notions of 'I'm getting old, I need to do one more thing before I die' tends to be a mistake.
Mark Frost just did an interview like a week ago where he confirmed that when they released season 3 they had no plans for continuing the series past that. Lynch having ideas for how the story could continue doesn't mean he's going to actually follow up on it, just that he could if he felt the urge. I really hope he doesn't because nearly everyone is gone, right down to Julee Cruise and OH ANGELO. What would be cool would be getting books or something that follow the planned storylines for the original cancelled third season and the two movies that were supposed to follow up FWWM. There was very nearly a season 3 comic book by a guy that got the pre-production material from one of the show's writers but he only wanted to do it if he got Frost and Lynch's blessing and at that point Lynch just wanted the series to stay dead.
He made a point not to say, like he knew something we didn't, but that's not particularly odd for TP-related stuff. My immediate thought is that Lynch has lung cancer or something.
Nah probably just once you start losing people it won’t be the same - how many can you lose before you’re unable to tell any relevant story (something lynch would care about)
I was going to suggest some animated midquels to fill in the many blanks in the existing timelines. Using animation would negate some of the issues with the cast aging and in some cases, they might even be able to fake voices well enough for those who are already dead.
But the thought of it becoming the next thing a company like Disney gets their hands on and ruins by running it into the ground with their own fricked up vision makes me think maybe Twin Peaks should just be left alone for good.
Season 3 was already a mistake, too much time had passed. It feels like Lynch is just using Twin Peaks to get attention and funding for his latest schizo ideas.
Like the scenes with all the cast at the Sheriff's office at the end. I was watching a bts of it and Lynch was pissed he only got two days to film it. he said there wasn't enough time to get all "dreamy" with it and explore what could be done. So it ended up a bunch of people just standing around in a room.
s3 seemed like a fricking mess production wise and i'm genuinely curious how much things suffered/were altered because of it. people can't accept that s3 has some genuine faults
remember when lynch dropped out for like half a a year because of a budget so the actors had to make a cute "come back" video/showtime ordered twice as many episodes than lynch planned/the fricking awful color corrected film scenes?
I just finished the show half an hour ago and I have no clue what happened
was it judy’s dream? Is judy some kind of god? did cooper cause the end of the world? did mike make him do it? I’m so confused bros help me out
Think of Part 18 as the inverse of Fire Walk With Me.
FWWM is Laura's journey to let go and move on, as she does she gets her angel in the red room and ascends into the white lodge.
Part 18 is the opposite. It's Dale digging himself deeper, and refusing to just let things go. Compare Dale to Dougie, Dougie who lived in the moment and improved the lives of everyone, Dale going on on a galactic quest across time and in those final moments everything comes crashing back for Laura because the past couldn't be undone.
Honestly, that would've been the best course of action. With how old everyone is, production for a new season with multiple episodes would be too extraneous compared to a feature film I feel. We had FWWM already, might as well.
ironically, I think Audrey has the biggest excuse to be in S4 than the rest of the cast. remember, she was already in some twilight zone/judy zone before the rest of the cast.
due to securing funds/production etc. it's been almost 10 years, netflix or Amazon could totally fund it and get it going quickly. back then lynch still had to go through traditional channels.
The problem is if the show doesn't end in a cliffhanger then people will treat it like Endgame and move on. Lynch explains stuff, but only if opens up new mysteries. In that line of thought, it might be best to just leave C and L in limbo forever.
We can't really say what the point is from Lynch's perspective. And, I think the point now is probably different than the point from 1990, which I thin
Lynch isn't the type to change his mind on the main theme/idea unless he outright says something to people. the driving theme of TP as a show is infinite mystery
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I assume he got it out of his system with FWWM. Seaon 3 is a different creature.
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>FWWM >shows laura's arc but sets up more mysteries >s3 >technically another laura arc and starting a new arc for both coop/laura >even more mysteries
>I'd rather he did a final movie or something else.
people forget lynch is always doing shit even if people doon't see it. man never rests, he's got like 1000 short films that go overlooked and used to upload a shit ton on his old website. i have a feeling he'll be around for a while doing things, i can't imagine he'll ever have a "finale" project in mind
hell be fine
He's proven that he's still got his marbles.
His latest stuff is as good as anything he's done.
Last Twin Peaks was a perfect place to stop, but I trust him if he's happy to do more.
I'd like him to do something different as well, but this is probably his only way of getting decent funding for something new.
He has loads of room to play and try out his new ideas with a half decent budget.
So long as he's still in love with Laura, I can't see him refusing any offer to come back unless he gets really unwell or too tired.
There's like 3 different movies and 4 tv shows called Twin Peaks and there's a Hooters variant restaurant in my town called the same so who gives a flying frick
Just like there's 8 movies called Fargo and 12 tv shows called Fargo and 6 books called Fargo
Not liking Dougie, and not understand Dougie are two different things. The fact you had to type "unironically" clues me in to you not believing what you're saying either.
You also don't understand what the word "unironically" means.
And yes, it does mean liking Dougie. Dougie is the heart of the show.
You don't get it, it's fine. Better to stop now before you get hard filtered by episode 8. And stick to shows that are more on your level, like Fallout.
Things that are truthful don't need to be prefaced with "unironically."
you're a moron. dougie isn't simply coop without his personality or his memories, he's the goodness of the early 90's ported straight into the hell hole of "modern day". with the help of the lodge, as a being of pure goodness he brings nothing but good things to that world and it culminates to coop's full return where he immediately fixes almost everything like a super-hero
My response is to add "and I don't like him" at the end of everything you just typed out.
you're a moron. dougie isn't simply coop without his personality or his memories, he's the goodness of the early 90's ported straight into the hell hole of "modern day". with the help of the lodge, as a being of pure goodness he brings nothing but good things to that world and it culminates to coop's full return where he immediately fixes almost everything like a super-hero
as I said, I'm not very deep into the season. I had one Dougie episode where he can barely talk and he's just shuffling around a casino. There's nothing to understand yet besides it's just boring to watch
Coop is literally stuck in a fricking dream with no way out. He lost. End of the story and what loose end is there to tie up? Judy? That b***h is not doing anything. If he wants to do another show set in the same universe then fine but Twin Peaks is done.
I'd rather have this thread deleted than have you two gayging it up because your peabrains can't understand duality. dougie's moronation represents pure innocence before coop makes it back. the point of the character is to act as a counter-point to the doppelganger which has been running amok for twenty five years spreading darkness.
The town is just like any other modern dying small town shit hole. I get there’s more to the series than the town and atmosphere but I feel like the magic is almost entirely gone now
I don't do movie/tv reactions, only music. Especially something like this where the average tubetard is just gonna "I don't understand" throughout the entire thing.
I feel bad for Mark Frost, but the whole occult angle of the show is completely ignored. That federal agencies have working knowledge of esoteric forces and even the wherewithal to perform rituals is usually completely ignored by everyone
the entire cliffhanger revolves around coop and laura entering an alternate/more real reality that judy represents, you have an entire season's worth of material to just investigate the twin of twin peaks.
Things that are truthful don't need to be prefaced with "unironically."
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My response is to add "and I don't like him" at the end of everything you just typed out.
>I don't like him
don't care, dougie's moronation represents pure innocence before coop makes it back. the point of the character is to act as a counter-point to the doppelganger which has been running amok for twenty five years spreading darkness. if you don't like the show, just frick off
>this is what Dale Coper actually belives
Frost and Lynch kinda gave away too much when they admitted they went with the cliffhanger to give Coop a character flaw
>don't care, dougie's moronation represents pure innocence before coop makes it back. the point of the character is to act as a counter-point to the doppelganger which has been running amok for twenty five years spreading darkness. if you don't like the show, just frick off
Again, for the third time, you're confusing "not liking" with "not understanding". Could be an ESL problem on your side, so I won't make fun of you, Paco.
Your dislike of Dougie is born out of not understanding.
You think you understand, but you don't.
You're like four episodes into a 18 episode show and you think you understand anything. You are a gigantic moron. The sooner you frick off back to pleb shows the better.
You too, if you don't like the show, just frick off from this thread, c**t
Your dislike of Dougie is born out of not understanding.
You think you understand, but you don't.
You're like four episodes into a 18 episode show and you think you understand anything. You are a gigantic moron. The sooner you frick off back to pleb shows the better.
frick off out of my thread, I'm shutting it down, loser
Season 3 was amazing
if you don't like the show, just frick off
>Things that are truthful don't need to be prefaced with "unironically."
Go back, you don't belong here
Coop is literally stuck in a fricking dream with no way out. He lost. End of the story and what loose end is there to tie up? Judy? That b***h is not doing anything. If he wants to do another show set in the same universe then fine but Twin Peaks is done.
> I loved season 3, but I thought it was a really cruel ending for the characters after 25 years.
Why? All Coop had to do was kill BoB and that was it doing all that extra shit like saving Laura fricked him over and he was punished for it. Honestly it was a perfect ending for Coop who got way to wienery near the end like the universe telling him to frick off.
How did people react to Audrey's dance in 2017? You think she might actually be in our reality for a brief second when she enters the bar, but then it becomes clear this is just a dream. Such a surreal scene.
The bigger issue is, as Sabrina said, that Lynch and Frost don't seem on the same page these days.
Judging by some of the more recent online activity from Frost and Peyton, the relationship between the creators seems to be in a FWWM-esque state.
Both Mark and Harley have occasionally left somewhat soured comments on Lynch in recent times, especially in regards to Twin Peaks.
When rumors came up that Wisteria/Unrecorded Night was a purely Lynchian, Frost-less Twin Peaks sequel, Harley tweeted that he doesn't know about it but wouldn't be surprised, given that David had been hogging credit for the series for decades, which was liked by Mark.
Then Mark himself had multiple tweets saying that Lynch was more involved with certain parts of the show that people hate, and less/not involved with certain parts of the show that people love, respectively.
Peyton has also repeatedly said that he doesn't see a fourth season happening, for seemingly interpersonal reasons between Lynch and Frost, and answered some hyped responses to Sabrina's info about David's potential plans for a new installment by saying that her not knowing about Frost's readiness is "telling."
All in all, Peyton and Frost seem moderately pissed at Lynch these days, and maybe even slightly worried about him going on another solo run, with or without Engels.
>Then Mark himself had multiple tweets saying that Lynch was more involved with certain parts of the show that people hate, and less/not involved with certain parts of the show that people love, respectively.
Nobody loves those tedious boomer loredump books, Frost.
>Film-maker Quentin Tarantino, who was also in attendance, said in a 1992 interview, "After I saw Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me at Cannes, David Lynch had disappeared so far up his own ass that I have no desire to see another David Lynch movie until I hear something different. And you know, I loved him. I loved him."
Yes and the foreword was written by "Twin Peaks Cocreators Mark Frost and David Lynch" per the cover of the modern reprint. Frost's name comes first on Lynch's daughter's novel. Maybe Mark had more to do with TP than people give him credit for.
Hey, I think Frost should be given the credit he deserves. It's just that for one, he made nothing else of note and that the spin off material he wrote isn't that great. It's pretty clear that all the references to specific conspiracy and occultist lore are mostly his which I find less compelling than the more general metaphysics Lynch usually includes.
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Frost was too based like William Cooper and was silenced due to it. Meanwhile, Lynch is photographed openly making Masonic gestures. Still doesn't stop me from loving him for what he has contributed to Mankind.
Been watching this show Believe. Real good stuff, cute e-girl who looks like Marta Timofeeva. But like 5 episodes in I realize this piece of shit is in it. Frick this guy and frick this Twin Peaks
have a nice day you evil scum
Ontkean was approached to reprise his role as Sheriff Truman for the 2017 revival of Twin Peaks. At first, Ontkean was reportedly excited about returning to the role, and enlisted Twin Peaks authority Brad Dukes to help him find the jacket which his character once wore on the show. Dukes located a suitable replica, bought it and sent it to Ontkean. However, in 2015, Ontkean dropped out of the Twin Peaks revival, for reasons which were never made public. Dukes recalled: "We last spoke in August and he informed me he wasn't going to Washington after all. I told him I was heartbroken to hear that. Aside from being heartbroken, I am puzzled. Twin Peaks is not Twin Peaks without Michael Ontkean as Sheriff Harry S. Truman."[13]
Ontkean's role was replaced by Robert Forster, playing Sheriff Truman's brother Frank. Forster was initially David Lynch's first choice to play Harry Truman in 1990.[14]
Frost picked Ontkean. Lynch replaced him with the most soulless and least like character of The Return. Another point for Mark Frost.
Robert Forster was 10 times the actor that Ontkean is. Those scenes where Harry mourns Josie's death might be the worst acting of the entire series. I know Harry was a charming character at times but Frank was still one of the strongest characters in Twin Peaks season 3.
Honestly, if they make another season it should probably focus more on new characters. S3 introduced a lot of them who were implied to have some interesting stuff going on that was deliberately left open.
There's only one solution: Lynch and Frost should make competing season fours. Let them both have complete access to all TP IP. Neither would be allowed to sign actors to exclusive contracts though both could have the actors sign NDAs so neither director knows what the other is up to. Release them both at the same time as alternative universes.
It would be interesting but ultimately Twin Peaks is at its best with the both of them working together as admitted by Lynch himself on the Blu-Ray special features.
With story development input by Mark Frost, try reading the credits.
What really happened here was a classic case of Lynch being a great artist, but a terrible businessman and Frost trying to wrangle him. They had a plan for three movies, FWWM, a follow-up to the cliffhanger from the show (basically a season 3 replacement), and something that would tie together the added lore from FWWM with the rest of the series to cap it off. Since people were desperate to see the show's cliffhanger resolved, Frost insisted that they do the sequel movie before doing the prequel so it would sate audiences and make enough money to fund the rest of the trilogy. Lynch went autist mode and wouldn't budge on wanting to do the prequel first. Frost was convinced if they started with a movie that was mostly material people already knew, they'd lose interest and the other movies wouldn't get funded, so his last ditch effort to get the sequel made first was threatening to remove himself from the project. Ultimately Lynch wouldn't bend and that's what happened. Then we all know how the FWWM release went, so it turns out Frost was right all along and if Lynch had listened to him we might have gotten an actual conclusion to the original series. I liked season 3, so I'd say it all worked out in the end since it wouldn't have been possible if the series hadn't been cancelled twice before it, but people need to realize Lynch was responsible for a lot of what went wrong with the series. He has never been good at doing business in Hollywood and that's been evidenced by many of his projects over the years.
The Return did give us a pretty conclusive ending unless you're a brainlet who wanted some kind of explainable happy ending to a fricking David Lynch show
If I remember correctly David went on some kind of train ride and disappeared after Angelo died. If that's true he's either working on kino or just a depressed old man
actual source from the producer so it's not bullshit.
>but I don't know about Mark
okay this concerns me. It's not that I don't trust Lynch himself, but Inland Empire is shit and Twin Peaks has always been a 'The Lynch and Frost show' type deal. look what happened when Vince Gilligan went solo - El Camino is fricking shit.
That and season 3 is (no hyperbole) literally perfect. I'm happy with how it ended an prefer everyone to leave their game at the very top. Any notions of 'I'm getting old, I need to do one more thing before I die' tends to be a mistake.
Mark Frost just did an interview like a week ago where he confirmed that when they released season 3 they had no plans for continuing the series past that. Lynch having ideas for how the story could continue doesn't mean he's going to actually follow up on it, just that he could if he felt the urge. I really hope he doesn't because nearly everyone is gone, right down to Julee Cruise and OH ANGELO. What would be cool would be getting books or something that follow the planned storylines for the original cancelled third season and the two movies that were supposed to follow up FWWM. There was very nearly a season 3 comic book by a guy that got the pre-production material from one of the show's writers but he only wanted to do it if he got Frost and Lynch's blessing and at that point Lynch just wanted the series to stay dead.
Kyle M said at the Fallout premier that's it's extremely unlikely, but that if it were to happen then it needs to happen now.
why cause Lynch will be dead soon?
He made a point not to say, like he knew something we didn't, but that's not particularly odd for TP-related stuff. My immediate thought is that Lynch has lung cancer or something.
that's good to hear
Ok, but my point is that it's not perfect. Some parts I really like, and some parts I don't.
Nah probably just once you start losing people it won’t be the same - how many can you lose before you’re unable to tell any relevant story (something lynch would care about)
Until Lynch dies and the right's get sold to Disney, and then we'll get a new TP movie every year just like Star Wars.
I was going to suggest some animated midquels to fill in the many blanks in the existing timelines. Using animation would negate some of the issues with the cast aging and in some cases, they might even be able to fake voices well enough for those who are already dead.
But the thought of it becoming the next thing a company like Disney gets their hands on and ruins by running it into the ground with their own fricked up vision makes me think maybe Twin Peaks should just be left alone for good.
Lynch is 78, you know, it doesn't have to be a lung cancer that'll kill him.
Thanks, next time I'll tell my brain to come up with an alternative theory first.
After a while all the cast is just too fricking old, and Lynch himself is fricking ancient already. There's nothing specific going on it's just that
Entirely up to Lynch I presume, sure fricking hope so
maybe it will be an entire season of Dougie Jones and assorted new characters and musical guests
comfy
>twin peaks the animated series
I can see it now
Do it now
Could we truly be blessed with another KINO season? Will the watch parties return?
Season 3 was already a mistake, too much time had passed. It feels like Lynch is just using Twin Peaks to get attention and funding for his latest schizo ideas.
Season 3 was amazing
he's trolling the audience
Well, Sheryl and Kyle are the heart and soul of TP. As long as they and Lynch are alive, there can definitely be more stories.
Hope it doesn't. Season 3 was perfect, along with its finale.
.... even Lynch was unhappy with parts of Season 3, I don't know why people are calling it perfect.
>even Lynch was unhappy
Like what?
Like the scenes with all the cast at the Sheriff's office at the end. I was watching a bts of it and Lynch was pissed he only got two days to film it. he said there wasn't enough time to get all "dreamy" with it and explore what could be done. So it ended up a bunch of people just standing around in a room.
That's production. Him being unhappy with the final product would be different.
yeah I thought the first half of episode 17 was pretty bad
I actually liked it. It was surreal in that it was a little too perfect.
s3 seemed like a fricking mess production wise and i'm genuinely curious how much things suffered/were altered because of it. people can't accept that s3 has some genuine faults
remember when lynch dropped out for like half a a year because of a budget so the actors had to make a cute "come back" video/showtime ordered twice as many episodes than lynch planned/the fricking awful color corrected film scenes?
Lynch is the one that demanded to double the episode count.
HEELLLOOOOOOO
I hope we still get wisteria/unrecorded night, I love twin peaks but his non-TP stuff is just as good.
yep, just need those three.
I'm assuming Kyle is talking in regards to their schedule and age here.
I prefer to think McLachlan was demanding they film season 4 right there and then on the red carpet
I wanted to see that, but it was announced years ago at this point and teh clock is ticking.
is it though? woody allen just made a movie nobody asked for at 88
I just finished the show half an hour ago and I have no clue what happened
was it judy’s dream? Is judy some kind of god? did cooper cause the end of the world? did mike make him do it? I’m so confused bros help me out
Think of Part 18 as the inverse of Fire Walk With Me.
FWWM is Laura's journey to let go and move on, as she does she gets her angel in the red room and ascends into the white lodge.
Part 18 is the opposite. It's Dale digging himself deeper, and refusing to just let things go. Compare Dale to Dougie, Dougie who lived in the moment and improved the lives of everyone, Dale going on on a galactic quest across time and in those final moments everything comes crashing back for Laura because the past couldn't be undone.
Frick another season. Just do a movie again.
Honestly, that would've been the best course of action. With how old everyone is, production for a new season with multiple episodes would be too extraneous compared to a feature film I feel. We had FWWM already, might as well.
Twin Peaks stopped being worth caring about when they killed Audrey's romance with Cooper.
ironically, I think Audrey has the biggest excuse to be in S4 than the rest of the cast. remember, she was already in some twilight zone/judy zone before the rest of the cast.
DOUGIE IS COOPER????
s3 took over five years to make... s4 not happening even though i'd love it
due to securing funds/production etc. it's been almost 10 years, netflix or Amazon could totally fund it and get it going quickly. back then lynch still had to go through traditional channels.
>netflix/amazon
don't even joke about that
lynch was already trying to sell netflix on wisteria, it only got shelved because of covid
good
the short film with the monke was a netflix production
I love season 3, but I hope he leaves Twin Peaks on that note. I don't need more. I'd rather he did a final movie or something else.
if Lynch has a good idea, I'm inclined to trust him on it. and it would be a shame for that idea to pass with him.
The problem is if the show doesn't end in a cliffhanger then people will treat it like Endgame and move on. Lynch explains stuff, but only if opens up new mysteries. In that line of thought, it might be best to just leave C and L in limbo forever.
I strongly doubt Lynch wouldn't end it on another cliffhanger
>in that line of thought
it would mean there's no point in any twin peaks past s2.
I hope
We can't really say what the point is from Lynch's perspective. And, I think the point now is probably different than the point from 1990, which I thin
Lynch isn't the type to change his mind on the main theme/idea unless he outright says something to people. the driving theme of TP as a show is infinite mystery
I assume he got it out of his system with FWWM. Seaon 3 is a different creature.
>FWWM
>shows laura's arc but sets up more mysteries
>s3
>technically another laura arc and starting a new arc for both coop/laura
>even more mysteries
no
>I'd rather he did a final movie or something else.
people forget lynch is always doing shit even if people doon't see it. man never rests, he's got like 1000 short films that go overlooked and used to upload a shit ton on his old website. i have a feeling he'll be around for a while doing things, i can't imagine he'll ever have a "finale" project in mind
hell be fine
season 3 has to be one of the most disappointing things I have experienced in life
He's proven that he's still got his marbles.
His latest stuff is as good as anything he's done.
Last Twin Peaks was a perfect place to stop, but I trust him if he's happy to do more.
I'd like him to do something different as well, but this is probably his only way of getting decent funding for something new.
But, isn't that in reverse? You do the big name commercial stuff to fund the artsy stuff.
He has loads of room to play and try out his new ideas with a half decent budget.
So long as he's still in love with Laura, I can't see him refusing any offer to come back unless he gets really unwell or too tired.
>people in this thread are too low iq to realize unrecorded night IS twin peaks 4 in disguise
There's like 3 different movies and 4 tv shows called Twin Peaks and there's a Hooters variant restaurant in my town called the same so who gives a flying frick
Just like there's 8 movies called Fargo and 12 tv shows called Fargo and 6 books called Fargo
Fargo frick yourself
Underrated post.
I'm calling it.
I admit that I’m having a hard time getting into season 3 so far. The entire episode of Dougie just staring at things like a moron was brutal
About 5 people total that like Dougie, it's acceptable to skip most his stuff.
>skip
Let me guess, you are a crypto gay that thinks watching series should generate a crypto coin. kys
>something something about crypto currency
... yes? No? I don't understand.
Dougie Jones is the greatest television character of all time.
MR JACKPOTS
Unironically; you got filtered. If you don't understand Dougie you don't understand the show.
Not liking Dougie, and not understand Dougie are two different things. The fact you had to type "unironically" clues me in to you not believing what you're saying either.
You also don't understand what the word "unironically" means.
And yes, it does mean liking Dougie. Dougie is the heart of the show.
You don't get it, it's fine. Better to stop now before you get hard filtered by episode 8. And stick to shows that are more on your level, like Fallout.
Things that are truthful don't need to be prefaced with "unironically."
My response is to add "and I don't like him" at the end of everything you just typed out.
>Things that are truthful don't need to be prefaced with "unironically."
Go back, you don't belong here
you're a moron. dougie isn't simply coop without his personality or his memories, he's the goodness of the early 90's ported straight into the hell hole of "modern day". with the help of the lodge, as a being of pure goodness he brings nothing but good things to that world and it culminates to coop's full return where he immediately fixes almost everything like a super-hero
>this is what Dale Coper actually belives
>it's been 8 years since Bowie died
as I said, I'm not very deep into the season. I had one Dougie episode where he can barely talk and he's just shuffling around a casino. There's nothing to understand yet besides it's just boring to watch
I'd rather have this thread deleted than have you two gayging it up because your peabrains can't understand duality. dougie's moronation represents pure innocence before coop makes it back. the point of the character is to act as a counter-point to the doppelganger which has been running amok for twenty five years spreading darkness.
jesus, are you always such a fricking crybaby about everything?
I also told you frick off out of my thread, so bye.
i'm still allowed to talk about twin peaks even if i'm not feeling the third season so far. still keeping an open mind about it, schizoid.
You're no longer welcome here unless you like Dougie. Simple as.
>he didn't shed a tear
Filtered. Dougie is some of the best stuff.
Dougie is the goat, but I didn't fully realize this until my second watch
What happened to Dougie when Coop got his personality back?
dougie is coop. but just a sort of ultra refined ego-less being of goodness
The town is just like any other modern dying small town shit hole. I get there’s more to the series than the town and atmosphere but I feel like the magic is almost entirely gone now
You don't need anyone besides Coop.
How come there are no good Twin Peaks reaction videos on youtube?
I don't do movie/tv reactions, only music. Especially something like this where the average tubetard is just gonna "I don't understand" throughout the entire thing.
TP is too somber to illicit a big reaction, which is what drives that kind of content.
There was in 2017. It's all been deleted by jannies now.
I feel bad for Mark Frost, but the whole occult angle of the show is completely ignored. That federal agencies have working knowledge of esoteric forces and even the wherewithal to perform rituals is usually completely ignored by everyone
I got filtered by both Season 2 and Season 3
What would they do? Reveal a "White Lodge" and an "Anti-Bob" deity?
the entire cliffhanger revolves around coop and laura entering an alternate/more real reality that judy represents, you have an entire season's worth of material to just investigate the twin of twin peaks.
>I don't like him
don't care, dougie's moronation represents pure innocence before coop makes it back. the point of the character is to act as a counter-point to the doppelganger which has been running amok for twenty five years spreading darkness. if you don't like the show, just frick off
Frost and Lynch kinda gave away too much when they admitted they went with the cliffhanger to give Coop a character flaw
>don't care, dougie's moronation represents pure innocence before coop makes it back. the point of the character is to act as a counter-point to the doppelganger which has been running amok for twenty five years spreading darkness. if you don't like the show, just frick off
Again, for the third time, you're confusing "not liking" with "not understanding". Could be an ESL problem on your side, so I won't make fun of you, Paco.
>if you don't like the show, just frick off
don't make me point to the sign again
Your dislike of Dougie is born out of not understanding.
You think you understand, but you don't.
You're like four episodes into a 18 episode show and you think you understand anything. You are a gigantic moron. The sooner you frick off back to pleb shows the better.
No Angelo, No Peaks
You too, if you don't like the show, just frick off from this thread, c**t
frick off out of my thread, I'm shutting it down, loser
if you don't like the show, just frick off
if you don't like the show, just frick off
Coop is literally stuck in a fricking dream with no way out. He lost. End of the story and what loose end is there to tie up? Judy? That b***h is not doing anything. If he wants to do another show set in the same universe then fine but Twin Peaks is done.
Maybe the show would be about the protagonist fighting his way out of the nightmare he realizes he's stuck in, you brainlet.
I loved season 3, but I thought it was a really cruel ending for the characters after 25 years. Gutsy move from Lynch, but it never sat right with me.
Unless we get Michael Ontkean/Heather Graham (won't happen), IDK even know what we would really gain from a season 4 except undoing the ending.
> I loved season 3, but I thought it was a really cruel ending for the characters after 25 years.
Why? All Coop had to do was kill BoB and that was it doing all that extra shit like saving Laura fricked him over and he was punished for it. Honestly it was a perfect ending for Coop who got way to wienery near the end like the universe telling him to frick off.
IDK, I just felt like after spending 25 years in a hell dimension, they deserved something better than complete and utter defeat.
I get that Lynch hates Ontkean (or vice versa? or mutual hatred?) but why couldn't Heather Graham be back? It's not like she's a big name anymore....
I didn't know there was animosity between them. I know that he's 4 years younger than Joe Biden.
why else was he written out of season 3
I assumed because he's old as frick and probably sick as well. If they don't like each other then just give me a link so I can educate myself.
>Ontkean
I heard that he was completely retired from the industry at that point and had no intention of returning so they just recast him.
I thought Heather Graham was basically stuck in a coma or something
How did people react to Audrey's dance in 2017? You think she might actually be in our reality for a brief second when she enters the bar, but then it becomes clear this is just a dream. Such a surreal scene.
It's not literal. In one moment, she's a starlet dancing at the bar, the center of attention, and in the next moment she's old.
leaked pic of season 4 cast
>Jeffries confirmed
2017 was peak Cinemaphile with the twin peaks rewatch followed by the season 3 running kinospective
The bigger issue is, as Sabrina said, that Lynch and Frost don't seem on the same page these days.
Judging by some of the more recent online activity from Frost and Peyton, the relationship between the creators seems to be in a FWWM-esque state.
Both Mark and Harley have occasionally left somewhat soured comments on Lynch in recent times, especially in regards to Twin Peaks.
When rumors came up that Wisteria/Unrecorded Night was a purely Lynchian, Frost-less Twin Peaks sequel, Harley tweeted that he doesn't know about it but wouldn't be surprised, given that David had been hogging credit for the series for decades, which was liked by Mark.
Then Mark himself had multiple tweets saying that Lynch was more involved with certain parts of the show that people hate, and less/not involved with certain parts of the show that people love, respectively.
Peyton has also repeatedly said that he doesn't see a fourth season happening, for seemingly interpersonal reasons between Lynch and Frost, and answered some hyped responses to Sabrina's info about David's potential plans for a new installment by saying that her not knowing about Frost's readiness is "telling."
All in all, Peyton and Frost seem moderately pissed at Lynch these days, and maybe even slightly worried about him going on another solo run, with or without Engels.
So yeah, FWWM 2 - Electric Boogaloo, essentially.
>the relationship between the creators seems to be in a FWWM-esque state.
Kinomania incoming
Pic related
>Then Mark himself had multiple tweets saying that Lynch was more involved with certain parts of the show that people hate, and less/not involved with certain parts of the show that people love, respectively.
Nobody loves those tedious boomer loredump books, Frost.
i remember him tweeting one of the specific scenes that David had nothing to do with was pic related. also when Major Briggs tells Bobby his dream
w-what? lynch wasn't involved in wanky monologues? i'm shocked!
the one between Albert and Truman is fricking hilarious and fits so well though.
One of my fav's. Even better an episode or two later when they greet each other with a hug.
FWWM is far superior than any of the TP books Frost wrote.
Tarantino was completely wrong about this movie
>Tarantino was completely wrong about this movie
what did he say about it
It lacked close ups of women's feet.
>Film-maker Quentin Tarantino, who was also in attendance, said in a 1992 interview, "After I saw Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me at Cannes, David Lynch had disappeared so far up his own ass that I have no desire to see another David Lynch movie until I hear something different. And you know, I loved him. I loved him."
>rivalry between two hacks about who is the bigger hack
shocking. hackerino is a moronic edgelord while lunch is a fricking pseud
I bet you have never even ventured to read The Secret Diary of Laura Palmer in all of your self-righteous basking.
That was written by Lynch's daughter, wasn't it?
Yes and the foreword was written by "Twin Peaks Cocreators Mark Frost and David Lynch" per the cover of the modern reprint. Frost's name comes first on Lynch's daughter's novel. Maybe Mark had more to do with TP than people give him credit for.
Hey, I think Frost should be given the credit he deserves. It's just that for one, he made nothing else of note and that the spin off material he wrote isn't that great. It's pretty clear that all the references to specific conspiracy and occultist lore are mostly his which I find less compelling than the more general metaphysics Lynch usually includes.
Frost was too based like William Cooper and was silenced due to it. Meanwhile, Lynch is photographed openly making Masonic gestures. Still doesn't stop me from loving him for what he has contributed to Mankind.
I hope David has at least one project left in him. He seems like he just disappeared since Angelo died
WE'RE SO BACK LADS
I bet Lynch was impressed by COOP's acting in the fallout tv show
People who shit on Frost are wankers.
>t. Frost
Nobody cares about your stupid books, Marky.
I bet you are too good to watch Boxing Helena too.
twinperfect already perfectly decoded twin peaks so really what the hell can lynch even do??
Who the hell dares steal my thunder? New!! Season!!
Been watching this show Believe. Real good stuff, cute e-girl who looks like Marta Timofeeva. But like 5 episodes in I realize this piece of shit is in it. Frick this guy and frick this Twin Peaks
have a nice day you evil scum
Ontkean was approached to reprise his role as Sheriff Truman for the 2017 revival of Twin Peaks. At first, Ontkean was reportedly excited about returning to the role, and enlisted Twin Peaks authority Brad Dukes to help him find the jacket which his character once wore on the show. Dukes located a suitable replica, bought it and sent it to Ontkean. However, in 2015, Ontkean dropped out of the Twin Peaks revival, for reasons which were never made public. Dukes recalled: "We last spoke in August and he informed me he wasn't going to Washington after all. I told him I was heartbroken to hear that. Aside from being heartbroken, I am puzzled. Twin Peaks is not Twin Peaks without Michael Ontkean as Sheriff Harry S. Truman."[13]
Ontkean's role was replaced by Robert Forster, playing Sheriff Truman's brother Frank. Forster was initially David Lynch's first choice to play Harry Truman in 1990.[14]
Frost picked Ontkean. Lynch replaced him with the most soulless and least like character of The Return. Another point for Mark Frost.
Robert Forster was 10 times the actor that Ontkean is. Those scenes where Harry mourns Josie's death might be the worst acting of the entire series. I know Harry was a charming character at times but Frank was still one of the strongest characters in Twin Peaks season 3.
>Robert Forster was 10 times the actor that Ontkean is
Maybe for generic Hollywood stuff but Twin Peaks is different.
>Those scenes where Harry mourns Josie's death might be the worst acting of the entire series
and I wouldn’t have it any other way
I watched the entirety of The Return on my FRICKING telephone and there's nothing David can do about it. Get real
Honestly, if they make another season it should probably focus more on new characters. S3 introduced a lot of them who were implied to have some interesting stuff going on that was deliberately left open.
it's pretty wild how many actors in the series died after season 3. i'm watching it for the first time and it's like half the cast
There's only one solution: Lynch and Frost should make competing season fours. Let them both have complete access to all TP IP. Neither would be allowed to sign actors to exclusive contracts though both could have the actors sign NDAs so neither director knows what the other is up to. Release them both at the same time as alternative universes.
Kyle will only work with Lynch tho
That would be the coolest tv studio gimick ever
The hype would be unreal
It would be interesting but ultimately Twin Peaks is at its best with the both of them working together as admitted by Lynch himself on the Blu-Ray special features.
He made Fire Walk With Me without Frost and it's probably the best thing to come out of Twin Peaks
With story development input by Mark Frost, try reading the credits.
What really happened here was a classic case of Lynch being a great artist, but a terrible businessman and Frost trying to wrangle him. They had a plan for three movies, FWWM, a follow-up to the cliffhanger from the show (basically a season 3 replacement), and something that would tie together the added lore from FWWM with the rest of the series to cap it off. Since people were desperate to see the show's cliffhanger resolved, Frost insisted that they do the sequel movie before doing the prequel so it would sate audiences and make enough money to fund the rest of the trilogy. Lynch went autist mode and wouldn't budge on wanting to do the prequel first. Frost was convinced if they started with a movie that was mostly material people already knew, they'd lose interest and the other movies wouldn't get funded, so his last ditch effort to get the sequel made first was threatening to remove himself from the project. Ultimately Lynch wouldn't bend and that's what happened. Then we all know how the FWWM release went, so it turns out Frost was right all along and if Lynch had listened to him we might have gotten an actual conclusion to the original series. I liked season 3, so I'd say it all worked out in the end since it wouldn't have been possible if the series hadn't been cancelled twice before it, but people need to realize Lynch was responsible for a lot of what went wrong with the series. He has never been good at doing business in Hollywood and that's been evidenced by many of his projects over the years.
The Return did give us a pretty conclusive ending unless you're a brainlet who wanted some kind of explainable happy ending to a fricking David Lynch show
>david lynch
>twin peaks
wait what's going on with that Netflix series Lynch has been making?
If I remember correctly David went on some kind of train ride and disappeared after Angelo died. If that's true he's either working on kino or just a depressed old man
I miss /tpg/ so much
Why won't he save Audrey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgskpK2PcLM&ab_channel=queenofthesandals
Imagine the late-thirties landwhile with problem glasses and colored hair that made this melodramatic AMV horseshit.
have you seen lynch lately? he has not aged well, he is fricking DONE
>rip weather report, its over
Read the thread. He is doing just fine.
I only see current pics of him when they're posted on here, and he looked ok last time
I need to see Lynch shoot something with McKenna before he croaks