Do you think they're slowly trying to phase him out?
After Henry stopped voicing him, he barely has any lines or is involved with any of the plots
Do you think they're slowly trying to phase him out?
Do you think they're slowly trying to phase him out?
After Henry stopped voicing him, he barely has any lines or is involved with any of the plots
He barely did anything before Cleveland Show. Fricking Adam West had more focus episodes than Cleveland.
ha ha ha ha
(in Cleveland’s voice)
the new guy voicing him doesn't sound bad at all tbh
I couldn't even tell the difference.
Of all of these swapped voice actors in FOX shows, Clevelands probably is the best
I miss the Cleveland show. I want it back.
We all miss The Cleveland Show.
A lot of people panned The Cleveland Show as just an excuse for Family Guy writers to make black jokes. But I watched the show, and I don't remember there be any jokes at all.
I wish they'd phase Quagmire out instead
It should have been Quagmire instead of Brian
>I wish they'd phase Joe out instead
FTFY
The constant cuck jokes are unbearable, I almost wonder if it's some writer's fetish
Phase both out, make Cleveland the straight man to Peter, occasionally do episodes about him and his family.
Cleveland WAS the straight man before he left. Then they oddly gave that role to Quagmire. When he came back they made him into a dimwit, undoing all the character development he got in The Cleveland Show.
>When he came back they made him into a dimwit, undoing all the character development he got in The Cleveland Show.
Wasn't it said Cleveland Show that made him a dimwit? I remember there being complaints even back when the spin-off was still airing that they'd flanderized a character once known for being "the boring one" as soon as he got the spotlight. This couldn't have started once he returned to Family Guy.
The way I saw it, he was happy with his new life and family, but was blissfully naive on the responsibilities that came with it. He was selfish a few times but usually came around to his own realization that it wasn't right and then tried to fix it. That's something Peter would rarely do.
That's a good way of looking at it. Making Cleveland the star of his own show was gonna require having to portray him in ways previously impossible when his role was still limited to "the mild-mannered black guy." Giving him those flaws but still having him learn from them in ways Peter (and sometimes Stan) couldn't still felt right for the character. Is there really a noticeable difference with how FG Cleveland is written pre- and post-Cleveland Show?
The pilot sort of addresses this with Cleveland saying the only reason he ever came off as boring was because his friends never really care to ask his thoughts or what he has going on in life.
Though even after this, even with his zanier, more outspoken personality, the show still made jokes about Cleveland being a really white bread guy.
>Is there really a noticeable difference with how FG Cleveland is written pre- and post-Cleveland Show?
Cleveland-Show and Post Cleveland-Show Cleveland are both a lot more zany than he was back during family guy. Not sure about post-CS, but in the Cleveland Show he was more like a diet modern Family Guy Peter. Not as much of an butthole and more often than not he's the straight man or placed in the middle of the show's wackiness, but he still acts like a moron.
Cleveland was one of the flew dry cahracters in family, when he got his own show he was way too try hard to be dymanic and whacky and it really didn't work
Quagmire is really just there now to angrily berate everyone, especially the neighbors dog
Joe is the actually ruined character though. He may as well a different guy
I think Quagmire is now part of Seth's internal monologs.
Why do people STILL think Seth has anything to do with FG beyond coming in to do the voice acting and then fricking off to work on his mediocre Star Trek ripoff? He hasn't written for it in over a decade. His name is in the credits and he does the voices, but that's about the extent of his involvement.
There are people who still think Matt Groening still writes every episode of the Simpsons
>still writes
I thought he only drew the characters in a napkin and told James L. Brooks "do whatever the hell you want with this."
No your not wrong, despite that being common knowledge people still think he wrote every epsiode
Out of all the adult cartoon titans, Matt Groening has the fewest contributions when it comes to his shows (ignoring Dishitchantment). I would complain that he got lucky and doesn't deserve his fame and wealth, but at the end of the day, Simpsons and Futurama really wouldn't have happened without his Life in Hell comics attracting big TV executives and informing the art and writing style.
Very true. We did happen to get some quality and earnest stuff with golden age Simpsons and Futurama. I know he did fart out the Simpsons and struck gold but he did give a lot of development to Futurama along with David Coen and still did/does writting for Futurama even though those show are a blessing of top notch writting room
I remember Groening doing a podcast for Futurama during its Comedy Central run, but was he actually noticeably more involved with that show compared to Simpsons? I know he co-wrote the pilot and helped design the main characters, but it seems like it's more Cohen's baby overall.
It was definitly a writer's room effort, you've Ken Keeler off the top of my head, I can't be arsed Googling more, but at the same time, Greoning was very involed in the concept, way more than the Simpsons, like there are rough draghs of all the characters and concepts for Futurama but it did become a writer's baby once it was on the air
Here are the early concepts you speak of
Try to keep up, anon. Seth was busy making his Ted series.
Was it really that bad?
I just finished it, really solid. I think it’s clear they want a second season, but 7 episodes to start with is such a weird thing to do.
I wish they'd phase you out, anon.
Both of them suck now. Quagmire is now a gaded straight mand and is only happy when talking about cats or planes
Joe is now Meg 2.0 now that Meg is more or less phased out of the show because Mila Kunis is too busy
Quagmire just doesn't fit into Family Guy anymore now that the can't be a pervert. He's Brain lite now.
Brian is more of Quagmire now. His fixation with Lois and he reguarlly gets with bimbos
it's not like sex jokes end at rape. they could still tell sex jokes they just choose not to. he used to be a cool guy that just happened to have a lot of sex. they could easily go back to normal with quagmire just after like him being a whiney dick never happened
I wish they'd grow a fricking pair and stop pearl clutching over making "insensitive" or "offensive" jokes. Quagmire was the most hilarious character on the show until they dropped the pervert angle and just turned him into a grumpy old dude who likes cats and has a troony for a father.
I'd say phase out all three of them and give Peter new friends
honestly I'd rather they shift Brian back to his original Seasons 1-3 era personality, though that could be said for most of the show's cast aside from Stewie(honestly now this has me picturing them taking advantage of the fact Stewie has a Time Machine and just do a literal reset of the show for everyone besides him)
All three of Peter's friends kind of suck now, huh?
>Removing everything about what made a character work and replacing it with something else didn't work
In fairness there's no chance anyone writing in this show cares, it's not like they'll ever be recognized for being "Good", but this should probably be obvious.
>my happy black guy face
Moustache face works better than black guy face
Probably because they realized that just because a guy can do an impression doesn't mean he can act.
I still find family guy funny and anyone who disagrees can eat my shorts
Road House.
Cleveland was always kind of a token black guy in this show, they didn't really give him much of a personality until like the episode of him cucking Brian.
I dissagree, he was a lot more dry and slow compared to Family Guy's typical rapid fire humour. It was only until they realised "We're a black regular character" they did black jokes with him
Even that mainly happened to humble Brian again. They played it up because it's funny when Brian eats shit.
About the only slightly funny episodes in modern FG are the episodes where Brian gets fricked over, humiliated, or brutally injured. He is the definition of insufferable.
How is Cleaveland?
>Cleveland Show started bad but ended up good in the last two seasons
Any other shows that started shit but ended up good?
just bring in Cleveland's friends from Stoolbend, they were more entertaining than the Quahog team right now
>Quagmire can't be a pervert anymore
>can't make cripple jokes about Joe anymore
>Cleveland was always the boring straight man and that hasn't changed
Family Guy should have stayed canceled.
that's what I think, family guy is kinda starving for new characters. you'd think the brown family would be good additions to the cast but Donna is the only one that talks and even then she barely hangs out with Lois and Bonnie. Cleveland is worse there have been more quagmire and peter episodes than Cleveland and peter episodes, they don't know what to do with Cleveland
I like his yellow shirt
Yeah, yellow always looks good on rich skin.
i dont