Is it worth a watch or is it just a woman meme?
Ive seen bits and pieces of pic related doctor and he seemed pretty good.
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Is it worth a watch or is it just a woman meme?
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Yes, the 2005 onwards revival is really good (Kino, dare I say) and definitely worth checking out
I was a casual enjoyer of reruns of the original DW when I was young, and I thought the revival was great - even hardcore fans really enjoyed it
But when Peter Capaldi comes in and Matt Smith goes out, ditch the show if you don't want your fond experience to be ruined in hindsight, because the writing plummets afterwards
I agree with this assessment. The assistant he gets is cool but she can't hold the show up for very long.
SUCH normie fricking opinions. Holy shite leave this board. ''Muh tennant, muh smith.'' kys.
nah frick off with 'old is good' argument. you're stuck in the past gramps.
Capaldi is the best doctor but has the worst writing. Something both these normalgays left out.
Watch episodes like Listen and Heaven Sent in season 8 and 9.
It's great as long as you stop when Matt Smith regenerates.
I just threw a 2 week old israeli female baby into a tree shredder.
Based?
Matt Smith was great for a couple of seasons but Moffat is fricking unbearably up his own ass about Clara that it ruined the series entirely.
Yeah Clara is the hard stop point
I would say figure out which season she comes in and Amy & Rory go out and stop at the one before that.
You don't even have to do that because series 7 (the series that happens) was split into two mini seasons with the first half giving amy and rory a clean exit.
Just watch series 7 part 1 and drop it once you've watched "the angels take Manhattan" which is one of the last decent episodes of nuwho anyway.
Moffat swings hard for the fences each and every time, so when he connects he well and truly knocks it into the carpark, but I'll be the first to admit he strikes out just as hard. Having said that I still like his overall style and can often find something to like. Didn't hate the later seasons of Sherlock, though I understand why people would find them hard to tolerate.
"Up its own ass" is a perfectly valid description of his shit at the best of times, let alone when it goes wrong, and Moffatt himself admits he was spreading himself too thin to the detriment of his work.
That woman though, holy shit I've never seen a more attractive human being. I'd happily watch her in the most crap of series.
>The old ones are boring, don't let zealots fool you.
Not true, but there are a lot of crap episodes. You can take solace in the fact there's literally too much of that shit for a human being to reasonably watch, so start with a best of list and follow threads like origin of the Daleks and Davros, etc. There's a lot of great lore to be gleaned from the old series, and melodrama mattered more than effects back then, because it had to.
Case in point:
Not a big fan of the classic era, the pacing is far too slow in most episodes I have seen, but what a kino scene. I wish the Doctor and Davros had more of these back and forth conversations in the revived series.
I've been at it for years and only just got to 3
Frick off Bonge, I’d know you anywhere you pretentious c**t
The old ones are boring, don't let zealots fool you.
2005 are great, but the season 1 doctor is terrible, he is uncharismatic as frick, which is why the replaced him after s01. Rest of the seasons are great and worth watching.. untill the doctor becomes a troony and grows a vegana, and around that time it will also become canon that the first doctor was actually a black girl. Jesus. Just skip those new seasons and pretend they don't exist. They were so bad they cause the show to get canceled.
Fricking wokie ruin everything and jodie is an insufferable c**t.
The show isn't cancelled. There's a new season coming with the first Black LGBT doctor. I'm not even joking
It might as well be canceled. Do you know anyone who still actively likes this show?
As soon as they revealed that Indian guy as the master I swore off the show forever.
Sacha Dhawan is a great Master.
For me it was the moment the 13th Doctor was revealed. I was always against the idea of a female doctor in principle. I remember people saying to give it a chance and it's possible she wasn't just picked because of politics. This of course turned out to be false but I don't care either way. The Doctor is a man. Anything post-Capaldi isn't canon.
eccleston>smith>tenant
no, not a chance
i remember how i watched that first season back them and how he was getting on my nerves constantly, while all the other doctor actors i loved (except the annoying c**t jodie, i would lick her legs any day, but keep her away from dr who)
Eccleston is the best doctor you're just moronic. He left because he's a massive autist and couldn't get along with rtd (not fired btw). Tennant is great too. I like Matt Smith but the writing for his series are not for me, but he carries the show easily.
>he is uncharismatic as frick
Yes it's good. It has heart. I've only watched up through season 5, but I've had a great time. Sometimes the plots are repetitive, it's cheap, but nonetheless does something unique and sometimes surprisingly kino.
>is a show for women
>made by BBC
what did they mean by this?
It's garbage. All the Doctor does is run around shrieking. And when the villain is taking over the world he just stares dramatically to the left, to the right and then up.
Watch series 1 - 4+specials for maximised kino.
Only Americans and British zoomers like Matt Smith because that's when they discovered (and proceeded to ruin) the show. Despite that there still some aspects of the Matt Smith era that are pretty great and worth watching but be warned, they never reach the highs of the 2005-2009.
Capaldi era is when the writing takes a major noticeable dip in quality, despite that Capaldi is probably the best actor you could imagine playing the Doctor. So if you're already invested up until this point you might as well continue to watch for the 1 or 2 good episodes sprinkled throughout.
Post Capaldi Doctor Who is no man's land. A barren wasteland of talentless writing, peaching, and disdain for the source material. There's a reason no one cares about this show anymore.
>disdain for the source material
Why is this so common these days? Writers who hate sci-fi writing sci-fi, writers who hate fantasy writing fantasy, writers who hate comics writing comic book adaptations... Why is everyone working on things they hate and trying to change them instead of working on things they actually like?
All three NuWho showrunners are big fans of the show, especially Chris Chibnall who went on TV in the 1980s to complain about it.
They don't hate the source material at all, Doctor Who is unique here where fans are running the show but Doctor Who is different to everyone and they want to put their own stamp on it.
No one hates something more than its biggest fans, though.
My girlfriend raved about Doctor Who so I finally watched a few episodes from her favourite Doctor.
It's literally just "science chad saves the day"
Women love to schlick themselves to Tennent and Smith. It's a female coomer show. (At least until they decided to ruin it)
i didnt know why women liked him before but after good omens i can now see why. weird how scots age a lot better than brits
Why did this show have tons of gay references BEFORE gay marriage and shit was legalized?
Because 'gay marriage' was never as important as you were told it was. The trend toward acceptance of decadent lifestyles wasn't started because the government allowed gays to marry. Decades of propaganda did that for them. The government signing off on it was simply the final nail, hammered in once everyone was already on board.
And now, most of the world hates them.
Well I was talking about specifically Western countries. The rest of the world has always hated them for the most part. Although even in Western countries I have noticed a slow trend towards people no longer tolerating gays. Or at least the LGBT ideology.
I never said I opposed gay marriage. Regardless the truth of the matter is that most homosexuals don't want to get married. The ones who actually do and live peaceful private lives are the least of my concern.
Getting married isn't decadent, frickwit. You're wanting to continue forbidding homosexuals from wholesome relationships because you're a revolting piece of shit.
>Getting married isn't decadent, frickwit.
Members of the opposite sex getting "married" is. That's the literal definition of decadence.
>opposite
*same
Gay marriage made it a lot worse. Now, you suddenly have problems like, what do you teach kids in sex ed., if sex isn't about reproduction? This directly leads to weird things like teachers teaching their kids how to use grindr, or literal porn being put into textbooks. Because now sex isn't about penis in vegana, it's about hedonism. And the more hedonistic it is, the more sex it is. So it's the school's task to teach kids how to be as sexually degenerate as possible. Like, this literally flows directly from "gay marriage/sex = good".
It has certainly complicated a lot yeah I'll give you that. Personally, I don't think the state should ideally be teaching kids sex ed at all. Those sort of conversations ought to happen between child and parent. Decedent lifestyles should be limited to the privacy of one's own property and rightly shunned by wider society. I'm not saying gay marriage had no impact on society's tolerance of decadence. I agree it's made it far worse. But I also think it was inevitable given the decades of propaganda leading up to that point.
Basically, I don't think undoing gay marriage will magically fix things.
>Why
We may never know.
here's a quick rundown.
Adric dying was always weird
He must have been like the Wil Wheaton of his era everything just wanted him off the show. He's one of the better companions tho imop
freindly reminder 7 went back in time and killed adric for being an annoying little shit
Yeah it's good up till a point but never ever engage with the fanbase.
>Is it worth a watch or is it just a woman meme?
Watch the first 4 seasons including specials, it's absolute kino.After that, is goes down the burger hill.
Don't neglect the original run. Most of it is garbage but worth a watch regardless.
Here are the best stories from the OG Doctors:
1: The Tenth Planet
2: The Seeds of Death
3: The Time Warrior
4: Destiny of the Daleks
5: Earthshock
6: Trial of a Timelord
7: Rememberance of the Daleks
8: The movie lol
If you want to skip all the wandering around quarries and Sarah Jane screaming, twisting her ankle, and needing to be rescued repeatedly to get the lore, I've noticed some condensed episodes like this around:
As well as impressively extensive explanations of lore from homosexuals like this sperg:
i basted so many nuts to Amy, god shes so hot.
Also i strongly recommend watching the occulus movie, she stars in it and it's a kino horror.
Yeah Oculus is super underrated.
also watch this if you didn't see it yet
it is a short film made the guy who made oculus, it was this short film which got him the chance to actually shoot the movie itself
>he what if instead of the companion being a hot white girl who is always loved by the coomer audiences we make the companions be 3 people with no personality 2 men and one of them ugly indian chick?
genius
>a hot white girl who is always loved by the coomer audiences
It has lots of ups and downs. The best written portion of the show is the Tennent era.
Smith and Capaldi are good doctors, but the writing can be pretty bad. With some significant exceptions.
the entire 2005 show has like 5 really good episodes with Midnight being the absolute best (Blink trannies can start seething now)
other than that it's either ok or just plain shit (like doctor defeating daleks with the power of love once again)
>the entire 2005 show has like 5 really good episodes with Midnight being the absolute best (Blink trannies can start seething now)
Best and redpilled. The good episodes of Doctor Who are really good but there's only like five good episodes in the entirety of the show. Fortunately the show is very episodic so you can just jump into the five good episodes without watching the rest of this trash.
Midnight was less than mid. It was sub. Blink was Dr. Who without the Dr. You missed the point.
>mid
>sub
please kys zoom zoom
Holy frick, a Doctor Who thread without a schizo spamming it with random shit, I don't believe it.
I’d say 50 percent of episodes from 2005 onwards are worth watching up until Peter Capaldis last season where it gets atrocious. I barely remember Bill. Then Jodi… most episodes are not rewatchable…it goes into being total un-entertaining dreck. That’s being generous for the show. The classic episodes were in the 00s, I’m really sad the writers let it rot and got obsessed with identity politics.
I stopped after Eccelston, then recently went back to watch Tennant through to Capaldi. It gets better and better, then falls off a cliff.
Classic Series has extreme variations in quality but is usually always entertaining.
Series 1-4 and the specials of the revival is very good with only a few dud episodes.
Series 5 is still just as good but there is a distinct difference in style
Series 6-8 is Moffatt in full control. Random people and events come out of nowhere and a lot of shit just doesn't make sense. Really feels like "Frick it, we're doing it anyway" become a more common sentiment the farther you get in Moffatt's tenure.
Didn't watch 9-present so couldn't tell you shit
lol none of those work out, first one rose ends up with metacrisis doc, second that guy is evil and the doc kills him, third thats a slag who he leaves and gets back togther with his black wife, forth they never go on a date and he dies an old man only ever talking to her one more time, fifth I have no idea what that one is, sixth they both die, seventh eh guess that one worked but you never see him again, no idea what those last 3 are
>but you never see him again
He's going to appear in the upcoming special.
thats good actually her cameos after that he's never their and donna appears to still be living at home, it made no sense
What cameos? She never really appeared again after the End of Time.
yea so where was he in end of time
He was literally introduced in the End of Time...
?t=49
oh yea fair enough
whats the fifth one anyway? its bugging me
it's the same guy as the fourth one who after hitting on Sally was sent back in time in the 1970s and ended up marrying a white girl even there.
ah thanks, is it on his bedside table or something in the hospital?
What about the random black in Empress of Mars who's somehow part of a white regiment and keeps showing a photo of his white gf
The 2005 revival is a good starting point. It just dwindles in quality during 12’s era due to the writing, as the actor himself is within the top 3 of Doctors and he was utterly devoted to the role.
9 & 10 have the most complex characterisation which is the most interesting. The 9th Doctor is quite literally suicidal and it’s rather subtle at times about it. During this era the score/music is very good which often carries the more campy and silly aspects.
Completely avoid 13’s era, I’m not being hyperbolic when I say that era has no redeeming quality to it. It’s so bad that it was almost cancelled a second time, that’s until they had to bring back the original showrunner that brought it back in 2005 along with his most popular Doctor (10) to be reincarnated as the 14th Doctor.
>gay showrunner (even in Classic) is fine
>every white girl companion bar one being a coalburner is fine
>Tony Blair's government being secretly controlled by a family of fat criminal Tori- I mean "aliens" who want to sell Britain for money is fine
>omnisexual male companion making explicit sexual jokes in a 2005 kids' show and kissing the male Doctor several times is fine
>the Doctor deposing the female British PM because she has dared to defend her country by herself against Argent- I mean "aliens" is fine
>thinly veiled reference to oral sex with a humanoid concrete slab in a 2006 kids' show is fine
>black girl companion is fine
>Obama 100% unironically going to solve the 2009 financial crisis even for Britain is fine
>literal Black Kween of England is fine
>condoning Scotland's independence is fine
>multiple "MUH STRONK WOMEN" regularly slapping and chastising the Doctor is fine
>the Doctor directly asking President Nixon to allow a white gay male FBI agent to marry a black man in 1969 America is fine
>making sex-change regeneration canon is fine
>mutant daughter of a British fully-white couple turning fully-black is fine
>Victorian interspecies lesbian married couple with manlet servant who gets constantly ridiculed for his martial demeanour is fine
>random rude teenage black girl becoming the first woman on the Moon with no effort just to humor her, thus beating to it a fully trained and entitled white woman who doesn't even complain, oh-and-btw-she's-gonna-become-POTUS-too is fine
>female Master is fine
>black female Time Lord immediately demeaning her sole old white man incarnation right after his death with a general misandrist remark is fine
>black lesbian companion is fine
>small vegan lectures and reminders throughout a series is fine
>blackwashing past History and having the Doctor validating it is fine
>punch a racist is fine
>extreme capitalism in space causing the Doctor to become blind is fine
>ridiculing the First Doctor for his patriarchy is fine
a racist is fine
?
the memory cheats, my dear.
>can't treat a poorgay like a poorgay if she happens to be black
Bravo. Fantastic episode.
>every white girl companion bar one being a coalburner is fine
What makes it even funnier is how Rory was almost played by a black actor before they settled on Darvill.
girl companion is fine
Yes. Martha was the most based companion.
wtf is your problem with martha?
ask the chuds.
>Victorian interspecies lesbian married couple with manlet servant who gets constantly ridiculed for his martial demeanour is fine
I was fine with this because it was too coombait and hot to be mad at.
100% unironically going to solve the 2009 financial crisis even for Britain is fine
That was meant as ham-fisted satire, anon. RTD thinks subtext is for cowards.
>That was meant as ham-fisted satire
holy mother of cope
Waters of Mars was kino and a good ending point for Tennant if you don't care for le quirky Matt Smith
Martha was the best companion of the reboot era
Reminder that RTD got completely mindbroken by Trump and Brexit. Just watch Years and Years to see what I mean. If you thought the 2005 era was full of preachy politics, this time it'll be beyond tenfold.
>RTD will save Doctor Who and erase TTC!! T-two more weeks!
Anyone who said RTD was going to erase TTC is a genuine moron. He adores the idea of it, and had he been showrunner at the time, he would have completely ignored the 13 regeneration limit.
Remember when he tried to retcon it in the SJA and change it to "507"?
>he was just teasing clyde tho
Sure, you can interpret it like that, but RTD said otherwise and defended it by saying the 13 regeneration limit was only said "one or twice". He utterly hates everything about Gallifrey and the Doctor's background because he considers it baggage that pulls away casual viewers.
RTD also deliberately made it very unclear in the early NuWho days whether the new series was an actual continuation of Classic or not, to the point that many tumblrinas unironically believed that the connection was confirmed only when they first show the Classic Doctors' faces in John Smith's journal in S3.
RTD also claimed that the Time War could allow him to retcon the past at his will and ignore events from Classic, just like it was his excuse for not writing the Doctor as the Doctor because muh PTSD. the ultimate irony is that it was his era that was then immediately retconned by Moffat.
>first show the Classic Doctors' faces in John Smith's journal in S3.
Not Sarah Jane in S2?
everybody forgets (or ignores) that it was the same producer (Hinchcliffe) who introduced the Morbius Doctors and then the 13 regeneration limit. he always intended both to be canon and thus Baker to be the penultimate Doctor, but the following producers arbitrarily retained only one.
"canon" really is only the showrunners' whim, and the same people that swallowed every retcon from JNT, RTD and Moffat and kept making fun about the wiki autists cried and pissed and shat themselves about "destroying canon" when Chibnall did it.
>he always intended both to be canon
No he didn't, he literally said only the 13 regeneration limit was canon after The Deadly Assassin.
>every retcon from JNT, RTD and Moffat
Which retcons did they do that were as massive as saying "the Doctor has infinite lives and Hartnell isn't the first doctor, instead it's a random black child"?
>RTD
Destroying Gallifrey (at the time, some fans were livid)
Tentoo (regenerating without changing the actor, just for shock value)
The general population forgetting about the bi/tri-annual alien invasions
>Moffat
UNIT being completely gutted
THE VALEYARD GOT NOTHING MORE THAN A NAMEDROP!
The general population forgetting about the bi/tri-annual alien invasions
Clara being the Super Special One who has not only seen all of the Doctor's lives and was the one to convince him to steal his TARDIS over another one, but she ended up becoming immortal and absconding with her own TARDIS.
War Doctor (fricking up the numbering even more than Tentoo)
>War Doctor (fricking up the numbering even more than Tentoo)
Hardly, no one even counts him
>muh war doctor is literally the same as timeless child!!!
>he literally said only the 13 regeneration limit was canon after The Deadly Assassin.
source?
>Which retcons did they do that were as massive as saying "the Doctor has infinite lives and Hartnell isn't the first doctor, instead it's a random black child"?
"William Hartnell IS the first Doctor and I wilfully ignore these eight previous Doctors" seems like a pretty big retcon to me.
also literally all NuWho Doctors being completely OOC to an extent that the Time War could never have explained.
also timey-wimey in every other episode and the total collapse of present-day continuity that followed.
amongst many others…
The best part about the random black child is that it isn't human, so it isn't even a black child. Its a fricking alien that just looks like a black child. If you really think about it, its so goddamned ridiculous that these people are either fricking moronic, or they think their audience is. Or a bit of both.
>the Doctor has infinite lives
joke's on you in Tomb of the Cybermen the Second Doctor said the Time Lords "live forever" so the 13 regeneration limit has always been wrong and Chibnall is right.
maybe you shouldn't brag about canon without knowing it first, mmmh?
The First Doctor also said he was human so maybe you should learn your canon.
>quotes unaired material
cope moar.
>unaired
He literally says he's human in multiple episodes you spastic.
no he doesn't.
He literally does you utter moron.
>Doctor: It's a fallacy, of course, that cats can see in the dark. They can't. But they can see better than we humans, because the iris of their eyes dilates at night. Yes.
-The Sensorites
>Doctor: They are men. Human beings, like you and me. Although it appears at the moment that you're behaving in a rather sub-human fashion.
-The Savages
Even the Second Doctor was referred to as human.
>DOCTOR: Well why choose Jamie for this [Human-Factor-]test?
>DALEK: His travelling with you makes him unique.
>DOCTOR: But why him, why not me?
>DALEK: Request denied.
>DOCTOR: Why?
>DALEK: You have travelled too much through time. You are more than human.
-The Evil of the Daleks
so what's your problem then? if the Doctor's species have never been consistent then TTC is not big deal.
It's a moronic argument to say the TTC is a big deal because they said 'X' in the early years of the show.
It's a massive difference, you're talking about something that retcons nearly 60 years of lore and comparing to something that retcons not even 6 years of lore (and not intentionally either I'll add given that this was the 1960s and writers had to rely on memory instead of being able to look back at old episodes).
>if a contradiction remains unattended for X years it doesn't matter anymore.
that's not how it works. that's how lazy people thinking they're smart think it works.
he didn't want to reveal yet to his companions that he wasn't human. next question?
Then why did the Daleks think he was human (or rather, more than human, as to imply he had been before)?
Most people were fine to accept those faces were of Morbius, not the Doctor.
literal headcanon never acknowledged by any source.
aka cope.
No source until TTC acknowledged that the Morbius faces were still relevant. It was easier to just explain it away as Morbius. The Doctor should have ran out of regenerations before The Time of the Doctor if they were.
>No source until TTC acknowledged that the Morbius faces were still relevant. It was easier to just explain it away as Morbius. The Doctor should have ran out of regenerations before The Time of the Doctor if they were.
that is precisely the problem. plainly ignoring the previous writers' work IS wrong. you cannot claim it is for Chibnall but wasn't for JNT. the main difference is that Chibnall found a catch-all solution while JNT just left the problem there.
>quotes unaired material
cope moar.
So the Doctor is half-human?
>So the Doctor is half-human?
no. because that claim came second.
that's how it works: the earliest get priority on canon. the follower must deal with it. he can recontextualise previous claims but he cannot simply contradict them. JNT was wrong to do so and all others were for following him. all it would have taken was for any of them to explicitly recontextualise the Morbius Doctors with whatever explanation to correct THEIR mistake of having contradicted it.
>Chibnall found a catch-all solution
He contradicted Time of the Doctor and the fact the doctor already reached regeneration limit, hardly catch-all
he just believed he reached the limit because he had no way to tell he actually had more regenerations available.
and Time of the Doctor contradicted the Valeyard anyway.
>contradicted the Valeyard
No it didn't. The Master said the Valeyard comes from somewhere between the twelfth and final incarnation, that could be anything from 12th and 13th to 12th and 253th.
its so fricking simple though isn't it? the timelords gave him another 12 regeneration's, its so obvious why not just do that? in 80yrs when we are all dead and they finally get back on to 12 they can come up with something else
>the timelords gave him another 12 regeneration's
only thing I saw was regenerative energy oozing out from the crack, but other episodes establish Time Lords can fake regeneration and that energy.
i'm talking about coming up with an explanation without ruining canon, they gave him more cause he was the only timelord outside the timelock and hence their only way back. I honestly thought thats what happened at the time.
>never acknowledged by any source.
Doctor Who: The Handbook: The Fourth Doctor says otherwise.
Ignoring canon from 30-odd years ago is one thing, what Chibnall did was on a whole other level. If you consider series 11-13 canon, they ruin story arcs from as recently as the Moffat era, all just to follow up on a now 40+ year old plothole no one really cared about.
Because it's supposed to be intentionally subversive. The good thing is people finally seem to be getting sick of it. For example, the Mario movie was met with mostly praise from Mario fans because it was faithful to the source material and wasn't made by people with a disdain for Super Mario or gaming as a whole.
If you consider series 5-7 canon, they ruin story arcs from as recently as the RTD era, all just to follow up on a now 40+ year old woman story arc no one really cared about.
What specifically are you talking about there? I don't doubt it I just can't recall anything in the Moffat era ruining anything egregiously from the RTA era. Not nearly to the extent of the timeless child crap.
>I don't doubt it I just can't recall anything in the Moffat era ruining anything egregiously from the RTD era
that's precisely the problem. double standards and memory holes.
no it isn't chinball flat out drove a steamroller over the entire saga for no fricking reason except to change the canon of the doctor, neither RTD or Moffat did that.
you only repeat buzzwords without understanding what they mean. the "canon of the Doctor" was already ruined several times by NuWho before, and Chibnall merely recycled ideas that were edgy but accepted in the 1990s. it just that Chibnall triggered your already very low bar for which retcon is acceptable.
FRICK OFF CHINBALL, you are the worst thing to happen to dr who ever, and what the frick are you talking about with the 90s? their was no who except the movie which was universally panned, still like Gann though
>their was no who except the movie which was universally panned
take it easy, zoom zoom. you just keep making an embarrassment of yourself in an already dead thread.
I don't even like the Moffat era so I'm certainly not defending it. It's just been a while since I saw it. From memory, it wasn't as bad as the Chibnall era and was worse than the RTD era. What was the example you were referring to?
>Just watch Years and Years
I'd rather not.
RTD always gets a free pass because all of his shit went over the heads of the zoomers here. They were too young to understand writing and subtlety and only cared about the skinny man in a suit running about with Murray Gold music.
NuWho's audience has always been mostly female. everybody who quotes "muh ratings" and "muh popularity" to defend RTDimplicitly admits they have the same taste as a dumb 2000s teenage girl or their mom.
>NuWho's audience has always been mostly female
It's not like the BBC or RTD hid that. NuWho was brought about in large part because 'Buffy the Vampire Slayer' had brought in huge ratings with that demo over in the UK.
Hell, Torchwood was just a Welsh 'Angel.'
What personally annoys me about RTD is his obsession with spin-offs. He's said multiple times how he basically wants to copy the MCU and I cannot understand why people seem to love that idea. Why do we need several pointless spin-offs for UNIT or Missy or whatever?
Yeah imagine a K9 spin-off, a Sarah Jane spin-off, a Torchwood spin-off, a random spin-off about some horny high-schoolers, etc. Shit's silly.
Well yeah, it was silly.
>K9 spin-off
Which only lasted one episode, and the Australian one had absolutely nothing to do with Doctor Who beyond the fact they used K9 as a character, and even that lasted one season.
>Sarah Jane spin-off
Wasn't really necessary. "Yeah the earth is being defended by a group of kids", dumb.
>Torchwood spin-off
At least this explained what happened to Captain Jack, even if its first series was fricking terrible.
>a random spin-off about some horny high-schoolers
This one was the most unnecessary one out of all the spin-offs, it had no characters previously established in the show that the audience could connect to, and it only existed because Moffat wanted a Paternoster spin-off but was too tied up and just started spit-balling ideas to other writers and someone took the whole Coal Hill idea way too seriously. No wonder it only lasted one series.
>here's your Doctor Who MCU!
>t. RTD
what the frick is this? please tell me this is fan made
lol
no really what the frick is this?
It's even worse with sound, experience it at least once in your lifetime
Nope, it's all official. It's a series spanning audios, novels and comics about this 'Doom' character. That being said it's doubtful she'll actually appear in the show itself. It's really just a pathetic attempt at trying to do the Time Lord Victorious stuff again.
>Missy looking more girly
>jewess looking like a troony
Really make Za think.
that sounds awful
oh my... how much it cost?
About 50p and whatever was in the props cupboard at the time.
i've seen everything up to the end of 13 and I never saw this shit somebody please explain
It's a new """crossmedia""" project. Enjoy.
>universe's greatest assassin
>doesn't use time bullets
0/10
Orbis was such a fricking stupid story. I loved it.
ONE THING
Torchwood Children of Earth was probably the most kino Whoniverse story and you'd never get anything like that written for Doctor Who
>What personally annoys me about RTD is his obsession with spin-offs
the supposedly "obscure" Wilderness era had a frickton of spin-offs with literal whos managing to sell their books just by featuring their OCs in one Doctor Who novel and then claiming their own books are "spin-offs". the market was there and there were plenty of ready-to-use ideas available.
It's still happening even now. There are literally children's books about an OC half-black granddaughter of the Brigadier that somehow are managing to sell.
9 is hella gritty but british lowkey kino
10 a classic
11 is hella whoish sometimes that 2010s kino that is now lost to time
capaldi few epic eps but ultimately sucky sucky
girl doctor lame dont even remember episodes
new doctor who gives af
13 had a lot of good episodes even ones some people consider bad, for instance the viking one created a stupid character but the episode itself was a lot of fun
>13 had a lot of good episodes
a reaction gif and green text doesn't mean anything
moronic statements do not deserve better.
moron, literally
>no it was bad because...I said so
Yes. Keep seething.
here I got something for you
most dullest ass doctor
moffat reimagining him was more watchable than that mf seasons
theme is good though
>the model does not fit the remakes
>it's the model's fault!
zoomer moment
I like his no fricks given attitude
Only if you are autistic.
I was pointing out he was incapable of forming an argument just going
>nuh-uh your wrong because I say so
just lazy innit?
Reminder that the Whittaker era isn't canon.
Moffat > RTD
Jodie > Tennant
RTD era hasn't aged well overall. I still like most of it but Tennant can be grating at times. Hate Series 2.
Moffat era also hasn't aged too well. Lots of disappointing conclusions and handwaved resolutions especially later in the run. Hate Series 7.
Chinballs is just boring as frick and didn't care about the show, he was just there to keep it on life support.
Eccleston and all the stuff before him is worth a watch, mostly. Tennant and everything after is.... hit and miss and pretty much just a meme aimed at women by people who have no idea what the majority female audience actually wants. The most recent series seems like it was made entirely for BBC journalists and no one else.
Two of the worst 10 moments
>RAAAGH HOW DARE YOU DEFEND THE WORLD FROM ALIENS BY YOURSELVES NEVER MIND THE FACT I WAS UNCONSCIOUS FOR 90% OF THE DEADLY ALIEN INVASION I WILL END YOU IN SIX WORDS-AHHH *gurns*
and
>RAAAGH HOW DARE YOU DESTROY ALL THE DALEKS-AH THAT'S GENOCIDE YOU MURRRDERED THEM! NEVER MIND THE FACT THEY WERR GONNA BLOW UP THE WHOLE MULTIVERSE YOU HAD NO RIGHT TO STOP THEM-AHH *bugs eyes out and shows teeth*
When people say he's the best Doctor I just laugh
for the first point he had already sent them away he killed the war mongering leader and they left, for the second they were already stopped and defeated
for the first point they could have come back, for the second point they could have come back.
for the first point the doc does this all the time telling some wanna be invader to piss off forever they never come back, for the second the daleks always come back no matter what
>doc does this all the time telling some wanna be invader to piss off forever they never come back
how could you tell? he never lingers to ensure they don't come back or to prevent the liberated people from chasing and punishing the invaders.
>for the second the daleks always come back no matter what
the real issue was then to establish it was so easy to kill ALL Daleks with a simple switch, while perfectly knowing they would come back anyway. the moral dilemma is thus based on false premises. when the Fourth Doctor was in position of genociding the Daleks it was genuinely uncertain whether they would come back or not because of Uncle Terry's shenanigans.
how could I tell? because he returns to earth constantly and they don't come back except for the 11 hour of course, for you second point ok I agree except for the entire episode was about the doctor realizes he's been making people into weapons and has been for a long time, then he sees "himself" do it and snaps, but still good point it was a dubious dilemma at best, 4th not sure if he should or not was much better no doubt
>NuWhogay automatically assumes all Doctor Who invasions happen on Earth
I was talking specifically about alien invasions of earth you idiot, you choose to intentionally misinterpret me, see the prime minister has that information she knows when the doc tells some alien race to frick off forever From Earth they usually do. is that clearer now?
>when the doc tells some alien race to frick off forever From Earth they usually do
well again the moral dilemma is based on false premises because they don't. UNIT was literally created because of that.
ok see an actual argument not random insults, good point I'll concede
>I WILL END YOU IN SIX WORDS
American anons need to understand, you'll never hate anyone like Brits hate Maggie Thatcher.
Trump could drop dead from a heart attack tomorrow and "Ding Dong the Witch is Dead" won't suddenly top the music charts like it did when Thatcher died.
I love the meltdowns that tennantgays had when Smith's Doctor had no qualms about using guns or killing bad guys en masse
>NOOO YOU CARN'T I'M THE MAN WHO NEVAH WOOOOULD
Watch the reboot until Bill shows up as the companion
why does everyone hate the finale? I thought the 2 masters and the birth of the cyber men was good fun
The finale is decent, but the rest of the series is pretty bad.
god your right I just scrolled through that season almost every other episode sucks, and I didn't care for the monk arc at all, except the virtual reality ep that was clever
Bill > Rose
NuWho is great up until the writers did Peter Capaldi's Doctor dirty, and also had him play sidekick to his companion. Capaldi does have some of the greatest episodes though. Skip Chinball & Whittaker... gods
the most kino episode of nuwho
Great show, just for the fact it has insanely high variance between episodes, there is at least one episode in almost every season whyh ranks amongst the best TV episodes in any show. Capaldi best doctor btw
Enter... the best nuwho doctor..
>wanted people to be held accountable for shit they were doing behind the scenes.
He was ahead of his time
Doctor Who is slop for propaganda-guzzling women
After 2018 yes it was
Classic who worth watching: 1st doctor, 3rd doctor, 4th doctor, 5th doctor and 7th doctor
Nu who worth watching: 9th doctor, 10th doctor and 12th doctor
Tomb of the Cybermen is a great serial and thats 2nd
It’s not
yes it is, what don't you like about it?
It’s boring as shit and the cybermen look moronic
weird criticism since its action filled and the cyberman "tomb" set is cool af
The idea that Doctor Who has "no canon" is complete nonsense promoted by Paul Cornell to justify the fact he's a horrible writer full of contradictions.
What's with all the Chibnall shills ITT? Are you all just being contrarian weirdos?
has anyone complimented a single thing chinball has done?
Yeah he finally fricked off
thank frick for that
I like The Power of the Doctor. The plot falls apart as soon as you think about it, but it's the most fun I've had watching Doctor Who in years.
That's about all I can compliment Chibnall on really.
I just read the synopsis for that, it doesn't sound terrible maybe I'll watch that one, I couldn't get through more then a couple eps of 13 the whole thing was awful from start to finish, awful companions awful looking tardis, awful doctor characterization, oh and a really shitty looking screwdriver
he finally made the Doctor not act like a total simp for his female companions, even if turning the Doctor himself into a female was his solution.
I didn't watch past a couple eps of s1 but she seemed to be simping for that black kid with some sort of motor function disorder pretty hard
She simped for Yaz, still straighter than Tennant though.
only at the very very end. and never to MOST IMPORTANT COMPANION levels.
Dr who is only good if it's in black & white
I enjoy the show, are the Big Finish audio dramas any good?
Mostly. You get some good ones, some okay ones, some dire ones and some amazing ones.
There are some free to listen to on Spotify, if you were curious. The Holy Terror, Colditz and Spare Parts are definitely worth a listen to from there.
>Spotify
Good to know. Are there any sites where one could download some full episodes for off-line listening? I'm used to pirating TV shows and movies but know nothing about pirating audio dramas.
Audiobookbay.
There's a massive torrent with all the Big Finish stuff in. If you want my personal recommendations from there that don't require any previous stories then:
>Farewell, Great Macedon (Lost Story, not full cast with the 1st Doctor, Ian, Barbara and Susan)
>The Dalek Occupation of Winter (1st Doctor)
>The Invention of Death (David Bradley's 1st Doctor)
>The Black Hole (2nd Doctor)
>Daughter of the Gods (2nd Doctor)
>The English Way of Death (4th Doctor)
>The Foe from the Future (4th Doctor)
>Spare Parts (5th Doctor)
>The Elite (5th Doctor)
>The Holy Terror (6th Doctor)
>Davros (6th Doctor)
>Colditz (7th Doctor)
>UNIT Dominion (7th Doctor)
>Storm Warning (8th Doctor)
>Blood of the Daleks (8th Doctor)
>Monsters in Metropolis (9th Doctor)
>Fond Farewell (9th doctor)
>Dalek Universe (10th Doctor)
Thanks Anon. I have a long car ride ahead of me so I figured I'd listen to something other than podcasts this time.
Also if you like Torchwood, then definitely check out their Torchwood range. Torchwood is their best range and it's better than the TV stuff. Some of it can be truly dark and grim though such as the one where a father is forcing his daughters to be raped by weevils to create hybrid babies.
They've also got an official RTD authorised continuation to the TV series called Aliens Among Us, which takes place after Miracle Day.
That's Afterlife, where after the bad guy has been defeated he promises her suffering as "he takes care of his friends"
>afterlife
thanks, I heard it wasn't a very good one but I want to listen to it anyway because that speech is fricking great pure 7
I like 7 so much
wtf, is this real?!
yes
How does he do it?
magic
which is the one 7 loses his shit and starts gloating about how the motw is going to be tortured now
>stretch you out on the neutron rack
Series 1-4 are gold. I would argue that Series 5 (Matt Smith’s first series) is just as good. Series 6 and 7 is where the writing starts going downhill but still has great moments. Series 8 - 10 is where the quality takes a nosedive but still had a good episode once in a blue moon. Series 11 - 13 is completely unwatchable. Avoid.
Oh yeah also watch the classic show you zoomer.
Capaldi > Tennant
>recontextualise what "final" means
>that's fine
>recontextualise what "first" means
>NOOOOOO THAT DESTROYS THE LORE IT'S CONTRADICTION!!!!
Yes. We don't know who the final Doctor is, whereas we did know who the First Doctor was. Maybe if you weren't so focused on sniffing Chibnall's farts you'd realise it's that simple.
this
apologist homosexual, chinball and every he has done sucks, he has almost killed the franchise
>deliberately missing the point
when Holmes wrote The Ultimate Foe "final" meant 13th. now Moffat says "final" can mean more than 13th. this is fine.
when JNT and his followers said "First" they meant "first born", but before that "First" sometimes only meant "first seen", and Chibnall (and before him Cartmel and Platt) says "First" only means "first remembered". this is fine too.
all of this is only recontextualisation, not contradiction. unless you apply double standards, which you always do.
oh god just stop chinball it was awful just terrible you are the worst, never touch this franchise ever again
>no argument
moron
>when Holmes wrote The Ultimate Foe "final" meant 13th. now Moffat says "final" can mean more than 13th. this is fine.
>when JNT and his followers said "First" they meant "first born", but before that "First" sometimes only meant "first seen", and Chibnall (and before him Cartmel and Platt) says "First" only means "first remembered". this is fine too.
>all of this is only recontextualisation, not contradiction. unless you apply double standards, which you always do.
>when Holmes wrote The Ultimate Foe "final" meant 13th. now Moffat says "final" can mean more than 13th. this is fine.
>when JNT and his followers said "First" they meant "first born", but before that "First" sometimes only meant "first seen", and Chibnall (and before him Cartmel and Platt) says "First" only means "first remembered". this is fine too.
>all of this is only recontextualisation, not contradiction. unless you apply double standards, which you always do.
FRICK OFF CHINBALL
Leela is my favourite classic companion.
not my favorite but I like the highlander kid reinterpreting everything through the lense of scottish mysticism and he usually gets it right, of the classics I know its stock standard but I really like Ian and Barbara
Kek how many of these webms are there? I've seen one like this of Amy, Clara and Donna. Never knew there were classic companion ones too. Who made all these?
hello nu-gay you don't realize /who/ has been a Cinemaphile staple for over a decade now?
I've been here for years. When did I say it wasn't a Cinemaphile stable? Obviously I wasn't here every single day to witness when these webms were getting posted.
their are a lot but /who/ is the second worst general that ever was or ever will be, probably best you missed a lot of it
There's one for Jackie.
>wet shirt
>Leela_3.webm
post 1 and 2.
Something for the dads innit
o'er
>>when Holmes wrote The Ultimate Foe "final" meant 13th. now Moffat says "final" can mean more than 13th. this is fine.
>>when JNT and his followers said "First" they meant "first born", but before that "First" sometimes only meant "first seen", and Chibnall (and before him Cartmel and Platt) says "First" only means "first remembered". this is fine too.
>>all of this is only recontextualisation, not contradiction. unless you apply double standards, which you always do.
>Is it worth a watch or is it just a woman meme?
The show hates you and wants you to suffer. It’s beyond smug.
Chinballs era
>I wanna make Doctor Who into one of those "posh" streaming shows
>I accomplish this by just having a bunch of known guest stars and filming in other places that aren't Wales
>Plot? Who needs a plot when we can pan the camera past these vistas
>oh people found this experiment really dull and boring
>*sigh* I'll just do Dalek, Master and Cybermen stories but extremely cliched ones
>I'm leaving now
I just have to say holy frick the last few 13 eps were fricking terrible, especially THE FLOOX
>every monster in Doctor Who is back because why not that's what people want right?
>50 plots running at the same time constantly cutting between each one every 10 seconds
I now retroactively hate 42 because of chinball
It was a shit episode anyway, when I found out Chibnall wrote it I wasn't surprised.
it was fine and had some neat ideas, the 24 aspect of it happening in real time was good, for some reason this made people think he was qualified to run the whole show.
Chibnall was appointed only because no one else would do it, not because they thought he was capable.
fair enough, maybe they should've just put it on hiatus for a few years until they found someone competent
They were afraid that putting it on hiatus any longer would kill the show.
Yeah
did they not understand the fans would've waited until they sorted their shit out? I manage a restaurant I work with high school kids, the geeks and nerds still talk about nu-who up until capaldi, the audience would've been their, in fact the anticipation of a new doc could've been hyped and build up for a couple years and the BAM, those fricking idiots
RTD was appointed only because he was Welsh, not because they thought he was capable.
ah no not at all he brought the entire concept of bringing Dr Who back to the executives what the frick are you talking about? chinball that has to be you no-one else would go to such ludicrous lengths to defend your awful run
>he brought the entire concept of bringing Dr Who back to the executives
many did. they were told to frick off because the BBC proper REALLY didn't want to pay for more Doctor Who. only two managed to do it because they secured money from someone else: Segal with the Americans and RTD with BBC Wales. that's the actual reason.
and if you don't believe me remember that the BBC was 100% OK with the initial full reboot project of the TVM and all the bullshit in the Leekley bible. because they just didn't care.
so you are saying I'm right and the big gay welsh man brought it back despite the massive push back from BBC, got it.
I'm saying the big gay welsh had big money and big connections, and not big talent. which he more than thoroughly proved in the following years.
he certainly has more talent then chinball that has also been proven time and time again
proved by whom? gays, trannies and women?
lol proven by chinballs awful run, the worst shit ever made by this franchise bar none
t. gay, woman or troony
ok homosexual, you've picked this hill to die on, chinball is the worst thing to ever happen to dr who he is the worst showrunner the show has ever had since its inception, deal with it.
RTD had to compete with Matthew Graham and Mark Gatiss for the position of showrunner, so clearly the BBC thought he was capable.
Chibnall got the job practically by default.
Ah, I remember the days when /who/ was worried that Gatiss was going to be Moffat's successor. Simpler times...
2005 revival up until the Ponds leave is solid. Clara is kind of obnoxious, but tolerable early on... and as soon as Capaldi comes in everything goes to shit.
>as soon as Capaldi
opinion discarded, thats like saying to put it in zoomer terms, saying Cavill was a bad Geralt because of the show runner
Capaldi is the best Doctor.
best nuwho doctor at least, Tom Baker is the best doctor and McCoy comes second. I took my rose-tinted glasses off after Doctor Who went to shit so I can look past my childhood David Tennant era nostalgia
This. Also McGann is in the third place for me
I haven't listened to any of his audio stuff (I can't get into them, I might try) but I'm sure he would be third for me too because of his acting potential
Classic Doctors aren't as good.
don't try and criticize something you've never seen
I have seen it and it's so bad.
ok zoom zoom
Ok grandpa
thats not an insult you stupid zoomie
do you work for BBC? what is this.
this is a post i made a few minutes ago you tarded apologist
try again keep on digging that hole you'll dig your way out eventually I'm sure.
do you have brain damage???? learn how to quote and read.
why would I apologize and or work for the BBC? I've done nothing but shit on them the entire thread this isn't going to work stop trying to deflect.
Why are you quoting me??? Look back. Look through the thread. Use your eyeballs.
you are so confused when did I quote you? i don't think I've used green text the entire thread I just referenced one of my posts to show that saying I work for or are defending BBC is moronic, what the frick are you trying to do here? again trying to deflect isn't going to work.
frick it sir! I got to say, at first I thought you just were misquoting but now I can see this is just a simple case of actual moronation. I don't make fun of the mentally handicapped, so I'll stop any attempts to agitate you any further.
you really are lost eh? damn chinball gays truly are moronic
The bbc is stuck deep in that hole. Doctor who is kinda bad lately. That's the hole they got into trying to satisfy everyone. Too bad this hole was the wrong one
they hired a moron to run their show, this is the result, chinball can complaim about studio interference all he wants, I never heard RTD or Moffat do that even though we know both experianced the same shit they just stood their ground, more or less, chinball either actively ruined the show or capitulated to each and every single thing the BBC asked for, thats the difference why the frick do you keep trying to defend chinball?
nobody forced the BBC to dig that hole deeper with the BBC.
infantile tumblrgay
Doctor Who is shit and I say this as a fan (of everything pre-2018)
The Power of Three had potential but that one was fricked for reasons outside of Chibnall's hands, Steven Berkoff was just being a c**t for no particular reason.
chinball dude, you fricked it up you fricked it so fricking bad, how could you frick this up so fricking much what the frick is wrong with you?
That's not the case, I remember at least one writer from the 12th era who wanted the job and even revealed his plan for the show after some time
Meant for
yes bbc execs are moronic this has been proven over and over again, everyone accuses holloywood of nepotisim which is fair but BBC is so much worse in that regard
The bbc can be very overpowering and overwhelming
don't try and excuse your own mistakes chinball which were many so so many
Sorry you're right I have been a bit foolish. I concede
he really dropped the ball so fricking hard its kinda unbelievable how much he fricked it up
Ding dong!
The Sound of Drums was a great Master moment to bad it was downhill from there
Stopped watching after Rose got replaced by a Black person.
Tried to give it a second chance with the Shakespere episode, quit after they rubbed the audience's face in their forced diversity, having the Doctor go "uh actually 15th century England is full of black folx just like modern day".
Maybe if you're a redditor and used to this sort of thing you'll be able to stomach it.
martha is fine and a good companion get over it all he said was you don't need to worry about being attacked or anything for being black because in this time no one gives a frick, its the opposite of woke.
No, he said you'd be surprised that 15th century England is more like modern day than you'd think and at the same moment the camera pans to two black women walk out of an alley.
15th century london did have a fair amount of black as they weren't slaves anymore so all the former slaves were their, and yes as far as we can tell no-one really cared, why do you think shakespears othello exists? and please lets not start was he arabian or african or whatever
London barely had any black slaves. A black person would have stood out like a sore thumb. They definitely wouldn't have been treated like just a normal British person, they would have been an oddity.
Do you also think the black French noblewoman in the fireplace episode was realistic?
they didn't have any black slaves anon, slavery at that time was outlawed, you really don't know what you are talking about do you? and the black friend in fireplace yes that was a thing, louis liked to surround himself with the "exotic" sort.
>Do you also think the black French noblewoman in the fireplace episode was realistic?
Yes.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Marie-Thérèse _(The_Black_Nun_of_Moret)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas-Alexandre_Dumas
So the mere presence of a black person, even a nun, in these times was so extraordinary that it merited their explicit inclusion in memoirs and records despite the fact that they did nothing particularly noteworthy?
a black person in a position of power yep absolutely very rare, all the decedents of the former slaves? heaps of them mostly working as servants or laborers
If this were true a normal black person working a nun wouldn't merit a wikipedia article.
I don't care about wikipedia, I'm talking about the actual time, their were plenty of black people in london in shakespears time, they weren't doctors or lawyers or anything they were lower perhaps lowest class but they were their and they weren't slaves. Accept it or don't the facts are what they are.
Sorry but revisionist BBC TV shows aren't a valid source.
no they aren't real history is however, you don't actually understand what happened in england in regards to slavery do you? england had no slaves, it was illegal and any person setting foot on British soil was considered a free man, that doesn't mean you give them a fat sack of cash it just means they aren't slaves, weird that someone talking about dr who has no knowledge of British history.
So how did all these hoards of black people get to 15th century britain? They just bought passage on a ship there for no reason? Some king shipped them over for fun?
no are you just flat out ignoring my posts or are you illiterate? they were former slaves they were freeded more then a century before shakespeare, they were just living their as common folk
Who knows.
unironically masters brought them back from the colonies without being aware of the law or more commonly thinking it wouldn't be applied. never underestimate stupidity and legal shenanigans.
Doesn't sound like something that could create a sizable or noticeable black population.
and is doesn't sound like you have any idea what you are talking about.
If you're asserting that enough slaveowners were stupid enough to lose their slaves due to legal ignorance and that this occurrence was common enough to create a black population in england larger than 1 or 2 % then you better have a source to back that up.
you are merican aren't you? it too difficult a concept for you to grasp, we are at bump point, and it would take sometime to explain it, just take these basic facts, in shakespears time their were no slaves in england, and their were black people in london and paris, not some celebrity just regular average working people
The wife loves to watch a sizeable black population on the BBC lol
>they did nothing particularly noteworthy
they were remembered because they were black AND noteworthy.
They were the daughter of Queen Maria Theresa after she cucked King Louis with a black servant.
No source for this other than empty gossip.
Why do you think she was sent to a nunnery?
Oh of course, every nun is the secret bastard daughter of some eminent royal figure.
The French LOVE black people. They practically invented Blackphilia.
Blacked? A French creation.
Please refrain from using that language here. We don't take kindly to that variety of behavior around these parts
Racism is bad.
I agree, that's why I don't like the BBC trying to erase replace British people with Black folk. The fact that they started as early as 2005 is concerning.
Happy 100 years of bbc everyone!
People thinking that New Who only went to shit after Smith left are delusional.
There were good Smith stories but Moffat was always a dog shit showrunner who couldn't do overarching plots and pandered to the Tumblr crowd.
>Having to put up with Amy Pond being an annoying grumpy b***h and the most important person le ever
>Having to put up with CLAALAAA being super le competent and the most important person le ever
>Having to put up with River Song being super le bad ass and the most important person le ever
>The meandering and shit Silence plot that just went nowhere
>Obnoxious Tumblr pandering at every opportunity with shit like Osgood
For some reason /who/ loves Osgood, never understood it.
they are just so comfy
Malcolm > Osgood
>/who/ loves Osgood
Nah.
At least every time I've seen her mentioned on /who/ her character has loads of simps talking about how she's kino.
she's awful at least she's dead
Nah, she's still alive and getting milked by Big Finish more than ever.
He can't keep getting away with it!
oh god I believe you fricking grim, see at least moffat tried to kill her.
lol just realized you meant osgood not ood, no frick osgood literally tumblir insert, absolutely awful, glad master killed her
If Osgood represents Tumblr, who does Malcolm represent?
A specific type of British autist that doesn't really have a name but if you're a bong you'll know who he's meant to be
>River Song
If the British acting community wasn't so incestous River Song could have been a babe instead of what we got.
Was it really necessary to make the dalek's weapon this fricking huge? I swear to god it's like piper peri is supposed to make a guest appearance in the episode with that shit going on
For me, it's Tosh.
I also liked tosh, she died horribly right?
She got shot. Horrible death, yeah, but not compared to Owen being slowly dissolved by boiling radiation.
frick owen
I don't mind historically inaccurate black people in historical episodes at all. Just don't mention it in the script. When you draw attention to it, you're making the audience think about it. You're not supposed to be thinking about that shit it's just for fun.
I like moffat but the show got tired under him. As all shows eventually do. He probably stayed a little too long. And his successor just didn't do what the show needed with a reboot
Didn't know I clicked on Cinemaphile
Last for the best Doctor.
He is really huge.