Does it hold up as an Elseworlds story now that it doesn't have the weight of creating a cinematic universe on its shoulders?
Does it hold up as an Elseworlds story now that it doesn't have the weight of creating a cinematic universe on its shoulders?
No. There are fundamental story issues with these that go beyond not being accurate or anything like that.
I'm not sure it holds up exactly but I think ZSJL ends up being good, after everything is said and done? Some very dumb ideas here and there, it's obviously too long, and it completely disappears up its own ass in that final knightmare sequence, but there's a lot of it that's weirdly compelling. I love that Snyder took the absurdly homoerotic cinematography from 300 and just applied it wholesale to the Amazons. No attempts to make them look super feminine and sexy, it's all rippling muscles and squatting giant stone doors. Also, Cyborg's storyline really works. And even though I despise the plan they had for the rest of the scrapped JL trilogy, I think that vision he has in the ship reviving Superman, especially the line "the future has taken root in the past" comes the closest in feel to Morrison's DC work like Rock of Ages. The movie as a whole is so disjointed that I think one of the most accurate descriptions came from some review on a blog: it should be called "22 short films about the justice league"
>"the future has taken root in the past"
That's just him referencing Boorman's Excalibur again
Funny coincidence then.
If the single films cannot stand on their own as a decent story, and you cannot honestly take them as a collection of consistent and logically told stories that flow and follow one to the other, then calling them an Alternate Reality or some form of AU as the Elseworld's were, isn't going to help with the inherent problems with the Hackverse,
Only his Cult Minions do and would disagree. Critically and both the fan and casual audience do not hold with the conception of these as a coherent shared universe, so obviously they would simply laugh at the idea that it's a coherent shared AUverse.
It's one of the few superhero movies in the last 10 years people are still talking about a few years later. Better than Marvel's Phase 2 slop.
Why Snydergays are this insecure?
Can you deny it? I don't even like other Snyder movies
Meanwhile Thor 2, Iron Man 3, GOTG2, all those movies came and went and no one really talks about them anymore.
GotG2 is good. Snyder and Gunn are two auteurs in a pod.
Yes, people love GOTG, Winter Soldier and Ant-Man.
Better spectacularly bad than safe and bland yet functional. Rise of Skywalker >>>> Solo
Shitty execution aside, Man of Steel starts with the premise that there's no contact with extraterrestrials and it happening will CHANGE EVERYTHING.
Then the aliens show up and declare war, and everybody goes about their regular business, Aliens have a big fite in the city and a bunch of CGI is wrecked.
Then each successive movie shows that there were all these non-humans the WHOLE TIME, some of them mighty and advance, none of them interested in aliens about to kill the planet.
The idea from the first film that Superman is the FIRST is completely thrown away so we can have prisons full of metahumans and magical and superscience civilizations for centuries.
It's is just plain crappy worldbuilding.
yeah snyder always goes for the classic "I'm going to build this skyscraper from the top - down" type of architecture.
JL sucks. if he just had the first two and never made that last one it would at least have been somewhat respectable because batfleck is pretty cool really.
The Snyder Cut is great though. Feels like a throwback to TLOTR series tbh.
tlotr?
the lord of the rings, by which i mean it just feels like a sort of fantasy adventure film the likes of which they don't really make anymore
Yes, they are stellar capeshit flicks that history will judge fondly
>that history will judge fondly
>really good
>great though
No, and anyone who says otherwise is a contrarian or a Snydercultist.
You're too young to remember but many of us enjoyed them before the cult aspect was even a thing, before the memes were a thing.
I thought I enjoyed them but that's because I was really hoping to see Superman and Batman on the big screen together so I did a whole lot of coping. The movies really fall apart the second you think about them for more than a minute.
I don't know, it's been over a decade and I still have no intention of ever watching any of these movies
life's too fricking short
AND YET HERE. YOU. ARE.
yeah but not in theaters
Snyder's films are really good, simple as
No