Does it hold up as an Elseworlds story now that it doesn't have the weight of creating a cinematic universe on its shoulders?

Does it hold up as an Elseworlds story now that it doesn't have the weight of creating a cinematic universe on its shoulders?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No. There are fundamental story issues with these that go beyond not being accurate or anything like that.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm not sure it holds up exactly but I think ZSJL ends up being good, after everything is said and done? Some very dumb ideas here and there, it's obviously too long, and it completely disappears up its own ass in that final knightmare sequence, but there's a lot of it that's weirdly compelling. I love that Snyder took the absurdly homoerotic cinematography from 300 and just applied it wholesale to the Amazons. No attempts to make them look super feminine and sexy, it's all rippling muscles and squatting giant stone doors. Also, Cyborg's storyline really works. And even though I despise the plan they had for the rest of the scrapped JL trilogy, I think that vision he has in the ship reviving Superman, especially the line "the future has taken root in the past" comes the closest in feel to Morrison's DC work like Rock of Ages. The movie as a whole is so disjointed that I think one of the most accurate descriptions came from some review on a blog: it should be called "22 short films about the justice league"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >"the future has taken root in the past"
      That's just him referencing Boorman's Excalibur again

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Funny coincidence then.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If the single films cannot stand on their own as a decent story, and you cannot honestly take them as a collection of consistent and logically told stories that flow and follow one to the other, then calling them an Alternate Reality or some form of AU as the Elseworld's were, isn't going to help with the inherent problems with the Hackverse,

    Only his Cult Minions do and would disagree. Critically and both the fan and casual audience do not hold with the conception of these as a coherent shared universe, so obviously they would simply laugh at the idea that it's a coherent shared AUverse.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's one of the few superhero movies in the last 10 years people are still talking about a few years later. Better than Marvel's Phase 2 slop.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Why Snydergays are this insecure?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Can you deny it? I don't even like other Snyder movies
        Meanwhile Thor 2, Iron Man 3, GOTG2, all those movies came and went and no one really talks about them anymore.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          GotG2 is good. Snyder and Gunn are two auteurs in a pod.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yes, people love GOTG, Winter Soldier and Ant-Man.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Better spectacularly bad than safe and bland yet functional. Rise of Skywalker >>>> Solo

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shitty execution aside, Man of Steel starts with the premise that there's no contact with extraterrestrials and it happening will CHANGE EVERYTHING.
    Then the aliens show up and declare war, and everybody goes about their regular business, Aliens have a big fite in the city and a bunch of CGI is wrecked.

    Then each successive movie shows that there were all these non-humans the WHOLE TIME, some of them mighty and advance, none of them interested in aliens about to kill the planet.

    The idea from the first film that Superman is the FIRST is completely thrown away so we can have prisons full of metahumans and magical and superscience civilizations for centuries.

    It's is just plain crappy worldbuilding.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah snyder always goes for the classic "I'm going to build this skyscraper from the top - down" type of architecture.

      JL sucks. if he just had the first two and never made that last one it would at least have been somewhat respectable because batfleck is pretty cool really.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The Snyder Cut is great though. Feels like a throwback to TLOTR series tbh.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          tlotr?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            the lord of the rings, by which i mean it just feels like a sort of fantasy adventure film the likes of which they don't really make anymore

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, they are stellar capeshit flicks that history will judge fondly

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >that history will judge fondly

      Snyder's films are really good, simple as

      >really good

      The Snyder Cut is great though. Feels like a throwback to TLOTR series tbh.

      >great though

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No, and anyone who says otherwise is a contrarian or a Snydercultist.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You're too young to remember but many of us enjoyed them before the cult aspect was even a thing, before the memes were a thing.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I thought I enjoyed them but that's because I was really hoping to see Superman and Batman on the big screen together so I did a whole lot of coping. The movies really fall apart the second you think about them for more than a minute.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know, it's been over a decade and I still have no intention of ever watching any of these movies

    life's too fricking short

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      AND YET HERE. YOU. ARE.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but not in theaters

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Snyder's films are really good, simple as

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No

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