Does scrooge really deserve his wealth or did he make it by taking advantage of other people?

Does scrooge really deserve his wealth or did he make it by taking advantage of other people?

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Dont care post dimeshipping

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      dick duck

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      BZZZT! The correct answer is Magicstone.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Magistone requires changing Gladstone so much he's not the same character. At least Dimeshipping can last on hatefricking

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Magistone requires changing Gladstone so much he's not the same character.
          Spurning Magica's advances is too much like work. There, now it's in character.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeh frick this shit

            Also both Dimeshipping and Magicstone us cute

            Frick the tumblr duck shipping blooded

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Bloodfueds sorry

              Frick their duck shipping American duck shipping bloodfueds

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                No one knows what the frick you're talking about

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Dating is a lot more work these days

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He made it through prostituting himself and Donald

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The latter. There's an entire chapter about it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sorry sweetie that's racism and is now banned even though the whole point is Scrooge fricked up

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        What’s even more problematic is one of Disney’s marketable IP characters being seen in a morally bad light that might affect his merchandise sales so sorry Scrooge can only be the kind-hearted funny sarcastic man who happened to get some money for his heroic actions

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >racism

        no one cares about europeans.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He gets most of his money from adventuring and then investing it into wise businesses. All of his initial capital is pure, or at least as pure as graverobbing and mineral extraction can be.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >graverobbing
      Right. As far as "deserving" the money ckmes from. Other people worked hard to collect and refine the gold, and more to turn it into valuable things. The culture that was important enough to give the treasure historical significance. Scrooge just picked it up and took it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The seed capital came from the Klondike and oil, at least, so he didn't do anything too bad until he became giga rich. Plus that was before people thought taking those treasures might've been disrespectful.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >grave robbing
      Not like those dead bozos needed the gold, and why should I care about their fake gods when their curses don't even work?
      >mineral extraction
      See, now that could go to bad places.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        In real life, people in the area often weren’t happy with invaders taking their resources, land, cultural treasures, and other shit. In terms of the comics when Scrooge was adventuring, frankly, they weren’t thinking about that, and you weren’t supposed to, either.

        I think the morality of it is kind of irrelevant, unless you really want to tell a story about colonialism or something. Yes, having him in a present day reboot go around scamming indigenous people and looting their land and cemeteries is not going to go over well. But do we have to turn this into a lecture about why imperialism is bad? I’m not even saying that cannot be done, but I don’t really see the point of taking this cartoon character and making it into a soapbox for something so obvious instead of just admitting that it’s not cool to hand wave that shit away anymore because of the real life implications. Why even have cartoons if they all have to be so damn literal and reckon with the horrible implications of their gags and fantasy adventures every five years or so? Why not just make nothing but nonfiction documentaries lectures for everyone at that point?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >wE've MoVEd oN!!

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Well okay, but what’s your solution if we don’t just change it so that Scrooge McDuck doesn’t pull that outdated and horrible bullshit anymore? We could permanently retire and “cancel” the character instead like Pepe le Pew, I guess.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ducktales 2017 already pulled it off

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Badly.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://bookriot.com/new-ducktales-old-colonialism/

                This review, which suggests that the reboot did a lot better than the old comics but still had things to work on, says it DO do it by reworking this franchise and taking out a lot of the racism (but not enough).

                Meanwhile, it says the attempt to have to characters say they’re all vewyvewysowy about all of the racism in the BOOM! comics and move on was some offensive bullshit and I do kind of agree. Having Mickey Mouse say “oopsie I’m sorry I committed genocide” and then just moving right along seems, with all due respect to the BOOM! writers who were doing there best, kind of silly or at least likely not to work for people who do give a shit about this. It’s like having Bugs Bunny talking about how he doesn’t want to genocide Japs most of the time anymore in Looney Tunes Babies so it’s all okay now. What the frick are you even trying to do? Who are you trying to actually appeal to?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                The fact that there is a significant portion of the population who are obsessed with getting fictional cartoon animals to atone for their past sins is the clearest indication that the human race is a complete failure and we need to start over.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                How dare you suggest that the Looney Tunes and Donald Duck don’t need to apologize and be executed for being Domestic Abusers?

                I’m not kidding, either. I have come across this exact argument unironically a lot in the past few years.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Bruh

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Of course, it’s far from perfect. There’s still only one girl (Webby) and one adult woman (Mrs. Beakley) out of a core cast of seven
                Is this a shitpost?
                If you're having Ducktales you need Scrooge, HDL at minimum. Then Launchpad if show specific and Donald if otherwise (and for this show they balanced making Donald a sort of main by making Della a sort of main). Where Webby and Beakley are also show-specific
                What are they supposed to do? Genderbend Huey and Louie? Make Daisy and Gandra mains for no other reason for having a clit? You can't change that the core four to six are guys

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                it's because she is a liberal feminist and is afraid of admitting that Webby and Beakly are both female characters with masculine traits and that it's offputting that the only real feminine female in the show is Daisy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s not a shitpost article obviously though, Ducktales is inherently sexist.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I know this is a shitpost response but you didn't answer the question

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Carl Barks already changed the way he did the character. That was super early and Scrooge wasn't even a major character in the story; it was a Donald story.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Ducktales 2017 already pulled it off

              Rosa's story "Empire-builder of Calistoa" did it just by making it inherently clear that what he did here

              >This is literally all made up. Scrooge in the original comics was a Klondike miner, had nothing to do with the Congo, and the atrocity stories are a bunch of bullshit made up in the 90s by confusing several different events into anti-colonialist propaganda.
              It was established in the Carl Barks story Voodoo Hoodoo, which I believe preceded the Klondike story by a few years

              was wrong and is the first step in which he is alienated from his family and becomes a recluse him. Ironic that this is one of the stories that Disney decided to ban just because of Bombie

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >censored reprint

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s not just Scrooge who was racist in those old stories though, it was Donald and most of the other characters at times in this really old shit because PEOPLE were racist back then including the animators and writers. To what extent do old cartoon characters like Mickey, Daisy, Minnie, Donald, Goody, etc. need to re-exhibit being evil bigots to children so they can what? Apologize to them? Or be punished? At this point, shouldn’t we just abandon all of these old cartoons every decade or so instead as we socially progress past shitty old values?

                I don’t have the answers, it just doesn’t take too long before old shows and cartoons are doing and saying awful shit and we get better.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Is this the one where Bombie causes the Titanic disaster?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Carl Barks already changed the way he did the character. That was super early and Scrooge wasn't even a major character in the story; it was a Donald story.

              so is modern Scrooge a good guy now?
              He doesn't do unethical shit and treats his workers fairly, but he's an butthole?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >modern
                This was in the '50s, anon. Maybe the late '40s even I'm not going to check.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Scrooge started out as a straight take on an unscrupulous billionaire, but was retroactively softened very lightly on the edges when he became the star.
                He insists that people work as hard as he did when he was struggling and suffering for his first strike (tougher than the toughies), but he'll still try to connive a way to get around the ugly part where he has to actually give the money out (smarter than the smarties).

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                What the frick is that ear?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              The solution is to stop being a moron who cares about this shit. It's a cartoon duck who swims in a money lake in his basement.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            das rite!I want reperations for the viking raids!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He is literally told in the comic that his actions are fricking awful by everyone around as he is doing it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, he went through a lot of jobs and work constantly even on his free time, after realizing it wans't enough to get rich he decided to go on very dangerous but well paid jobs such as exploring then after saving enough from those he started his own business while also investing in stocks and real state.

      He did pretty much everything you expect a person to do to get rich but being an inventor.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I mean, dead people aren't people any more. The idea of things still 'belonging' to them is fricking stupid. What are they going to do, haunt Scrooge for being too greed.. wait hold on

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didnt he like find it buried in the dirt?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    he's a scam artist. when I was a kid I remember reading a comic about a Scrooge going to Egypt and buying loads of fake artifacts and statues for like 10 cents each at the airport and then reselling them in Duckburg for thousands as the real deal. even as a kid I knew it was fricked up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He's much worse in Italian comics, ESPECIALLY the older ones.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You say that like a bad thing. Feels like Scroofe is lionised these days that his roots as the Carol Scrooge are forgot.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no, no, it's a good thing.

          I mean, everybody was a c**t in older Italian Duck comics(thanks Martina!).

          but Scrooge being a businessman(read: a barely legal crook) was fun especially because he used to lose whenever he gave in being too much of a bastard.
          Karma is a nice storytelling system

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ebenezer Scrooge was not a villain because he was a rich businessman (in fact, in the story he wasn't; he was pretty solidly middle-class). He was a villain because he was a miser who had no regard for the welfare of his fellow man.

          Likewise, Scrooge McDuck is not a villain for being the world's richest businessduck. To the extent that he is a villain, it's because he's a miserly old geezer who refuses to make room in his heart for his family. That's why your typical Uncle Scrooge story has his nephew Donald or Huey, Louie and Dewey having to remind him of his humanity.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that's not scamming. that is being a merchant. taking goods from a place where they are not wanted (cheap) and taking them t oa place where they are wanted (expensive)

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        selling fake items as real its an scam anywhere in the world

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          They are really Egyptian, tho. Where's the lie? Caveat Emptor, oy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        are you chinese or indian ?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          neither. I'll give you a hint, it starts with a "j".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That's just real life. People b***h about muh British Museum but poor's were hocking mummies feet in the open market for pennies where it would get taken somewhere civilized and have its actual value show

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >poor's were hocking mummies feet in the open market for pennies where it would get taken somewhere civilized and have its actual value show
        Not even that
        Mummies would be ground up into a powder and sold as a pigment

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think those are one of those more out of character moments where the writer does not know much about the character, you know like when the writer thinks Batman punch can hurt Wonder Woman because they have no idea how strong she is

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He did that in the 80s cartoon too. He would buy up crap in local marketplaces and then resell them as priceless antiques in Duckberg.

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    In the original incarnation, which was in the comics, Scrooge was a villain. His money came from a Congolese rubber plantation. While he was based on Andrew Carnagie, a capitalist baron of the gilded age who killed a shit load of people, his business model was the King Leopold II model.
    While the French and Belgians did give Belgium it's freedom on paper, in practise they were ran as puppet states with a currency pegged to the Franc, and with standard granted banking and shipping monopolies. America and Britain did the same thing to a certain middle eastern country that starts with the letter I-.
    Workers were essentially slaves, and punishment for low production (even natural consiquences), resulted in hand removal. So inter-tribal rubber gum theft, beatings, home burnings etc. were done in order to avoid the industrial strength punishments. An African might steal his neighbors rubber so his own daughter didn't lose her hands to a Belgian machete.
    It was only later that Scrooges income was reconned into the American dream bullshit.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >we'll never get Glomgold's life story of making bank off real life atrocities

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Legit would be an interesting comic book, if anyone has the gits to do it in a Don Rosa style epic.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >While he was based on Andrew Carnagie, a capitalist baron of the gilded age who killed a shit load of people
      I am going to require proof, sounds like J.P. Morgan propaganda.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is literally all made up. Scrooge in the original comics was a Klondike miner, had nothing to do with the Congo, and the atrocity stories are a bunch of bullshit made up in the 90s by confusing several different events into anti-colonialist propaganda.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >This is literally all made up. Scrooge in the original comics was a Klondike miner, had nothing to do with the Congo, and the atrocity stories are a bunch of bullshit made up in the 90s by confusing several different events into anti-colonialist propaganda.
        It was established in the Carl Barks story Voodoo Hoodoo, which I believe preceded the Klondike story by a few years

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This is some really racist shit but damn there was a lot of really racist bullshit in comics and cartoons in general.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Everyone always thinks someone else is a ferocious savage.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            People used to believe there were small creatures living in the moon, this wasn't that long ago
            If you actually believe in creatures living on the moon and you are told about this strange new land were coal people ride on top of living mountains with long tentacles on their face and long white fangs and you believe it because there is no google or anything like that you can check you get a free motherfricking pass for racism

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            How is this racist when Africa is still the continent with the most slavery, cannibalism, and religiousness?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              how do you know that albino flesh doesn't give you superpowers?
              all I'm saying that if i had the opportunity to tuck in some albino flesh... well, when in rome.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              What about china and the Muslim nations

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The funniest part of this comic is Donald telling the voodoo chief that his people deserved what happened to them.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >his business model was the King Leopold II model
      Scrooge was never a cannibal though?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >mfw

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >dude, when you told me to come and give you a hand in your plantation I never thought things would turn this way, totally not cool.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Congo Free State was legally Leopold II's private property and completely unsupervised by the belgian state. And it wasn't just belgians operating in Congo, Leopold's business partners were from all over the western world. The belgian government didn't assume control over the territory until Leopold got busted for what were recognised as horrible crimes even at the time, but you can blame Belgium for allowing the preceding arrangement to exist in the first place and for holding Congo as a colony afterwards.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Indiana!

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The comic doesn't go into the sordid side of Scrooge much, but the truth is that all wealth is based on randomly getting lucky and you didn't deserve it no matter how you got it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't scrooge trade a mirror for an entire gold mine to a tribe of savages?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Didn't scrooge trade a mirror for an entire gold mine to a tribe of savages?

      read "the life and times of scrooge" you phillistines

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        where?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          readcomicsonline

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >people on the comics board don't know where to pirate comics
          grim.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >"hurr read duck comics"
            >people ask where to read them
            >decides to seethe in pain and agony
            grim

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Does Scrooge earn his wealth himself or did he make it by taking advantage of other people?
    he did a little bit of both

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    no one deserves to have a billion dollars

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no one deserves to have 100 dollars

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no one deserves to be alive, this whole thread is moronic

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      making and acquiring a billion dollars is a noble and lauded goal and everyone who is able to do so deserves it.
      inheriting a billion dollars is an entirely different matter however.

      new money > old money

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Agreed. Inheritance should be outlawed.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >huh? why are no one working hard anymore? it's almost as if removing the benefits to the survival of your genes from your hard work has removed any will to work hard!? Well, at least my petty jealousy is sated!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >removing the benefits to the survival of your genes from your hard work

          there are billions of poor folks who do just fine ensuring the survival of their genes without giving millions or billions of dollars to their progeny.
          plus plenty of people work hard without entertaining the notion of giving millions or billions to their kids.
          of course we can't forget people who don't have kids at all, period.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Of course we can't forget people who don't have kids at all, period.
            Like Scrooge

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >all wealth belongs to the government
          Frick off.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nothing wrong inheriting a fortune. But people who are old money or nepo-babies who boast about being successful or self-made or say that entitlements or welfare should be cut off for the poor are absolutely disgusting hypocrites.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The government spending other peoples' money is not the same as being given money by choice by your father.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          This. Meritocracy can never be a thing if a child and his development will benefit from his forbears sweat. A smart hungry child will not win against a idiot nepo abby

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            nepo babies tend to lose the family fortunes anyways

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              An idiot billionaire has literally reached the bottom in his sub for his stupidity

              Class mobility is a thing and we have stats on it. Trust fund kids squadron their fortunes, which is why they become commie activists

              And still they tend to do better than those born poor, who never got the proper nutrition to grow or afford good schools. Of course there will be exceptions but they are called exceptions for that reason.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yeah...that's the point of leaving money for your kids. to ensure the survival of your genes

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                If you don't want us to earn for our inheritors, you can at least go all the way and say you want government controlled slave economy.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                in such a system the rich would just put all their money in the bahamas or some shit so the government couldnt touch it when they died.
                as usual, such a policy would only serve to keep the middle class down

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                All to bring back feudalism under a new name. You can bet nobody in the gov is going to keep their children on the same starting position as the masses. How else can they ensure to keep their political dynasties?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not opposed to forced sterilization of politicians

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            An idiot billionaire has literally reached the bottom in his sub for his stupidity

            Class mobility is a thing and we have stats on it. Trust fund kids squadron their fortunes, which is why they become commie activists

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You morons think it's all about money and it's all about who gets the most money
            If it was just about money then unless you are unfortunate Enough to be born genetically screwed there is no reason for you not being able to become a doctor or a lawyer or even an engineer through hard work alone even tho it may take you a couple extra years
            Abuse and neglect are way more damaging than poverty, yes they often come hand in hand but even kids born into wealth will throw their lives away if they grow up being abused in that way
            Of course that's not an easy problem to fix so we will keep pretending it doesn't exist

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          t. IRS

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          frick you commie mutant

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        People that are billionaires disagree.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do actually.

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    Anonymous
  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who hates Scrooge is a goddamn commie

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      "Aid to the Lazy" lady has huge breasts.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Western homies who never seen the work conditions in countries without worker's rights are so clueless

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Scrooge deserves that billion only if he lets me frick his duck ass

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      POW! Right in the shitter.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It depends on the story and the writer, but overall there seem to be very few examples of him being outright dishonest or exploitative (to the point that Don Rosa could make it a plot point that there was one time in his history when he broke his rule and it nearly ruined his life).

    The original Scrooge, while not as rich, is the model: he's not portrayed as making his money dishonestly, he just pays his workers the minimum he can get away with paying them and gives them the minimum time off. McDuck isn't as bad but he believes in always getting the best deal he can and paying Donald as little as he can.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >there seem to be very few examples of him being outright dishonest or exploitative
      I see you are not familiar with the Italian comics....

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Any wealth you have is deserved, no matter how you got it. The concept of "deserved" was made by lazy and stupid people who never had anything.

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    His staff works hard, does a good job but he pays them an extremely low wage, Scrooge is a greedy selfish prick

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He earned it fair and square. Whether he deserves it is a nebulous concept. Who deserves anything and why? But he clearly earned it

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Does scrooge really deserve his wealth
    yeah, because he made it square.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Those coins are clearly round.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        the dice are square though

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Scrooge is a fictional cartoon character who lives in a fantastic world where ducks are people and magic is real. Him being a truly self made millionaire who earned every penny he ever made is just another part of that fantasy.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >They say that wealthy people like the Vanderbilts and Rockefellers are sinful because they accumulated fortunes by exploiting the poor. I feel that everybody should be able to rise as high as they can or want to, provided they don't kill anybody or actually oppress other people on the way up. A little exploitation is something you come by in nature. We see it in the pecking order of animals—everybody has to be exploited or to exploit someone else to a certain extent. I don't resent those things.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Exploitation is right, abuse and murder aren't
      Funny how you get to make the rules then no justification is needed only circular logic, it's bad because it's bad and it's good because it's good and there is that
      Exploitation is normal in the animal kingdom but so is abuse and murder you dipshit

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        As always, the "civilized" seek to excuse their sins by inserting conceptual distance between their actions and the effects of them, while demonizing anyone who lacks the means to play their game.
        >It's okay to wreck the lives of millions as long as you do it the proper way, by rigging the system so that all their efforts work for your benefit while they barely make enough to survive.
        >Oh, but if you steal even a single loaf of bread, you're totally irredeemable and should be thrown in jail to rot.
        >Never mind all the suffering that results from my actions. That's unfortunate, sure but it's not my fault! I'm not the one screwing you over! It's the system (which I set up)!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Civilization is le bad
          Rousseau moment

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Human beings are the only creatures stupid enough to believe in morality

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              it exists. it's just "things I like" vs. "things I don't like"

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Check how fast we have reached the stars comparing to the era of dinosaurs, maybe you just don't get it what makes us smart and why Europe developed 90% of inventions since 15th century.

              Hint: when most of your populace doesn't die before reaching 15 years old, you increase your chances to get some bright people

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Which star did we reach?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Dude, innovation comes from the ability to exchange ideas back and forth. It has nothing to do with “most people dying before they’re 15” which isn’t a thing in even the most primitive tribe on the face of the planet.

                Bright people only get to show their brightness with an exchange of ideas and even the brightest people can get hung up on the simplest things.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't say civilization is bad. I'm only pointing out that the self-professed "civilized folk" will people by the thousands and rationalize away any and all responsibility for the consequences of their actions, evn when they cause orders of magnitude more suffering than petty thieves. In essence, it's about the difference between white-collar and blue-collar crime, and how white-collar crime receives less attention.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >will people by the thousands
              will impoverish and enslave people by the thousands

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's people's fault for buying into it and double fault because when they try to break free they only create worse alternatives like socialism and communism were they get even less freedom
          The truth is exploitation, abuse, murder and anything else is good because good is a meaningless word, if people stopped trying to be good and stopped giving a shit we could all live in a fair world were nobody is safe no matter how rich they are

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You know what? You whole idea is a bunch of fricking bullshit that does excuse Stalin and Mao’s bullshit the second that they frick you over, is the whole problem. I mean.

            I would actually advocate their “dictatorship of the proletariat” in a millisecond if I saw the world your way, because they would just shoot all of you in the fricking head and keep shooting the world “forward” like the huge “leap” the U.S.S.R. and China really had under these buttholeS.

            The thing is that the MERCY of some decided that was not “okay” because it IS evil. Why do you think that you are more successful without the mercy of the masses to murder and progress? You are a fool.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              You didn't even read my post

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Op here, the question was if scrooge deserves his money as in made it square or if he took advantage of others in order to make it in an unethical way, the question was never if he or anyone deserves to be rich or not you autistic morons

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >as in made it square or if he took advantage of others in order to make it in an unethical way
      An entirely subjective question that you will never get a definitive answer to, because there are literal morons in the world who will argue that owning property at all in any circumstance is unethical and exploitative. It was a moronic question from the get-go.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Using the word "deserve" is your mistake here. None of us deserve more than death and judgment; anything better is just by pure grace. No one is in a position to say whether Scrooge "deserves" his money anymore than we are in a position to say we deserve what we have.

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >another thread of americans acting like Don Rosa is the only canon
    the funny thing is, Rosa himself hates that

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It makes sense because Rosa is the second most popular duck artist both in and outside the US. If you prefer another artist's interpretation, feel free to post it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Okay, who outside of Barks and Rosa are there? How do other countries besides America deal with this issue?

      No I am honestly curious how you deal with all of the racism and imperialism discourse. Or is that an American thing.

      I can’t talk to an American without hearing how American and racist and imperialist the Duck Comics are at one point or another these days.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Well, I'm sure Rosa didn't intend to set himself up that way, but by turning out stories where the Barks stories and only the Barks stories matter (except, weirdly, the Three Caballeros) he did a lot to create the idea that the only canon is a) Barks, and b) stories that are based directly on Barks.

      I agree there's a literal world of other stuff out there, but since Barks's legend is as the "Good Duck Artist" whose work overshadowed all the rest, it's kind of understandable it worked out that way, at least for Americans.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I always liked Gutenbergus group, but could never find out who exactly that was comprised of. honestly some of the best art imo. never that big of a fan of Bark's stuff, but it's fine I guess.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Barks disliked Rosa's direct continuations of his work too, and seemed much to prefer the looser sense of canon employed by others.
      >Rosa sticks super hard to "Scrooge is the last McDuck" and has no brothers
      >Barks favorite 'heir' William van Horn created Scrooge's older half-brother Rumpus McFowl
      >Scrooge's little brother Gideon McDuck was created by Romano Scarpa, the influential artist/writer that Barks had very good ties to(Scarpa considering himself Barks' apprentice)

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Scrooge's older half-brother Rumpus McFowl
        GLOOM

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yep!

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yep!

          No wonder Scrooge doesn't like talking about him.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Barks disliked Rosa's direct continuations of his work
        Source? I’m always seeeing contrary statements about this

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not a source, just another anon speaking from memory, but IIRC Barks got along fine with Rosa but in a late 90s interview had a bit of a "I just don't get the point of what he did" attitude

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not a source, just another anon speaking from memory, but IIRC Barks got along fine with Rosa but in a late 90s interview had a bit of a "I just don't get the point of what he did" attitude

          https://nafsk.se/pipermail/dcml/1994-December/003332.html
          >This is to clear up possible confusion in the German media. I stated that I don't like my work rewritten or see a reason for it.
          >This includes sequels and the recent history of Scrooge.
          > Although Rosas' work is not my personal preference, I defen the right for it to be printed.On the contrary, if they sell, more should be printed.The point I made was that I don't care for that "style". As stated, I
          prefer works of artists such as Daan Jippes and William Van Horn who
          have a look and style on model, on character and in the Disney
          tradition.
          Barks himself. He didn't really get on with Rosa or his work.
          The recent history is "The Life and Times."

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is fricking depressing as hell, imagine being fricking Don Rosa.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >carl barks was a defener
              amazing

              [...]
              >imagining Barks at a convention with a "No, this is not Don Rosa" sign
              RIP

              >Barks at a convention with a "No, this is not Don Rosa" sign
              lol

              Agreed. Inheritance should be outlawed.

              >Inheritance should be outlawed
              based alert

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is fricking depressing as hell, imagine being fricking Don Rosa.

            >imagining Barks at a convention with a "No, this is not Don Rosa" sign
            RIP

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >bro you didn't draw on model your art looks shit
              Why did Don Rosa idolize Barks so much?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                With all due respect to Rosa, I like his comics and everything I've seen indicates that he's actually a really nice guy even if he is a bit of an autist, he is very much an instance of a superfan getting to canonise his fanfiction of Barks' stories. I can kinda see why that might rub Barks the wrong way.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Oh no, I can totally get how fricking deranged it must be but like
                >create a seminal piece of comic book media that is heralded as a classic of the medium
                >bro i dont get it why do you give a shit about my works or why youre trying to create a timeline
                Like, it's funny that like everyone but Barks like gets the life and times of Scrooge McDuck. I guess it is a meeting your heroes thing.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                It’s basically the same with Ducktales 2017, where only the purtists hate a otherwise universally praised show because it’s makes a different set canon
                Rosa does to that what Barks did to Rosa’s works

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >where only the purtists hate a otherwise universally praised show
                You drones and your endless supply of entertainment

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                but I don't hate it for being non-canon, I hate it for being a smug overwritten overblown show that's too convinced of how clever and subversive it is

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Frick off, Ducktales 2017 is shit, it's vastly inferior to Don Rosa' Life and Times in every single way. Just another instance of moronic millenials simplifying a fricking cartoon because they're worried about "the message", so they turned Scrooge into this nice billionaire cool dude who never did anything wrong in his life. They didn't even keep Bombie's backstory intact. S.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                imagine being this fricking deluded
                the sheer fricking audacity to claim the same amount of work, love, and respect went into both things.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I don't understand his point about "a look and style on model, on character and in the Disney
            tradition."

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is fricking depressing as hell, imagine being fricking Don Rosa.

            >Barks was a Dutchaboo
            He probably just didn't like Rosa's lack of Dutch stories

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who has more than a million dollars didn't earn their 'wealth' by definition, they stole the labor of the working class.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Scrooge is meant to be an outlandish, goofy cartoon/comic character. The idea of "fair and square" billionaire wealth is non-existent. Even Scrooge's worse side isn't nearly as bad as modern billionaires who don't play fair and square and will sent hit moles and mobs against whoever their rival is instead of goofy pogo-sticking on them

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The idea of "fair and square" billionaire wealth is non-existent.
      The idea of any "fair and square" wealth is bullshit, because no matter how much or how little you have there will always ALWAYS be someone who thinks you didn't get it fairly and that you don't deserve it. Fairness is subjective, and anyone who pretends otherwise is hopelessly moronic.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Get bent.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IDW just reprinted the Topolino issues that explain how Scrooge made money, like inventing popcorn and movies and being lucky to strike gold etc.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Soldati
      Doesn't that mean "soldier" in Italian? That's a badass name

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        soldierS. but yes

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's fiction, so I buy that he made it honestly. In real life, a person could only realistically make a couple million through sheer hard work and dedication, but Scrooge McDuck fights mummies and has robots so I don't care about realism.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Scrooge did typical colonizer looting shit which is what people outside of here who are angry about Duck comics and Ducktales and usually focus on. I think that theories of economics and Marxism and capitalism are frankly thinking too hard about it.

      I don’t defend any about it and outside of this website’s neo-Nazis I just don’t think there is any point or any chance of normal people going “racist imperialism = GOOD.” I just don’t see any point of revisiting that instead pointing f just changing these characters for children to not be racist anymore. People here who think they’re going to make pro neo-Nazi cartoons any time soon are fricking idiots, the alternative would instead be to just get rid of these characters completely.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Cinemaphile is full of neo Nazis
        >Yet I still choose to go to Cinemaphile when multiple alternatives exist
        What does that say about you pal?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I can understand why that guy stays, same reason as me (I hate nazis too): this place is more comfortable and has better overview. More conducive to conversation.

          And blowing nazis the frick out is always fun.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yet you complain about /misc/ ruining Cinemaphile when you are just a Twitter refugee looking to constantly start a fight with another name

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          nazis are hysterical idiots and therefore amusing

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >We need to make cartoon characters pay for the adventures they had in comic books made in the Atomic Age.
    Shiggiest diggy imaginable.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The intention was to streamline all of the Barks stories into one logical timeline, not to make Scrooge pay solely.

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Does scrooge really deserve his wealth or did he make it by taking advantage of other people?
    Scrooge exploits even his own nephew, what do you think?
    you don't make a fantazillion dollars by being nice. even if he made his initial money by striking it big with gold, growing that capital is inherently exploitative since labour is the sole source of value. while Scrooge sits on his ass, thousands if not millions labour to fill his vault. when the time comes, they will make no excuses for the terror

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Labor has never been a source of value, it was always what people willing to pay for things, which is often subjective. Economy is about human behavior, stop drinking the Marxist "scientific" kool-aid.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        brb imma tell the tax man I don't have to pay VAT because surplus value doesn't exist

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          VAT is a scam levied exclusively in countries populated by morons

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            t. lives in a country with an even more moronic sales tax

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >pay tax on an item once, when it's sold
              >more moronic than paying taxes on an item every time anyone does anything to it, paying like 1000% more tax in the form of price increases to offset for VAT costs
              >t. moron

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                you have no idea how VAT works

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Then explain it to me like I have your IQ

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                VAT only applies to the difference in price at each step, not the whole amount every time. for the consumer there is no difference. for businesses VAT just flows in and out. when I invoice my clients I get VAT from them, and I can write off some of that VAT on purchases my company makes while the remainder goes to the tax man. the purpose of this is to prevent an "unfair advantage" to be had from vertical integration (a petty bourgeois concern). but it is also of relevance when it comes to import/export

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >taxes are assessed at every stage of production, requiring each involved entity to pick up additional admin costs to track and pay VAT
                >that additional cost is not passed on to the consumer of course, why would it be?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        better yet, liberals:
        >commodities don't have an underlying value
        also liberals:
        >a stock can be over- or undervalued

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Scrooge exploits even his own nephew, what do you think?

      Ins't that more about Donald being extremely bad at his job? Afair he only hire and refuse to fire him because his youngest sister that is Donald mother was extremely close to him ever since she was born to the point her first word was his name.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Scrooge has him fricking burning down an african village just so he could trick them into selling what they owned and has his family literally comment it was the darkest day in their families history. He gets literally cursed for decades by a zombie who follows him around like the albatross around his neck and also alienates his family for decades till Donald and the triplets eventually pay his sorry ass a visit in his big old mansion.
    He was very honest and hard working in the beginning but grew miserly and arrogant in his middle age with him essentially ruining every relationship he had in pursuit of wealth and fortune.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like Don Rosa makes it very clear that as Scrooge got old his pursuit of money and wealth ruined him as a person.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Like Don Rosa makes it very clear that as Scrooge got old his pursuit of money and wealth ruined him as a person.

      It also makes it clear he's the one in the wrong for fricking with Foola Zoola and showing him and his tribe disrespect to both his culture and his customs.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        voodoo chief is pretty cool

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The interesting thing is that Foola Zoola doesn't even look like a dogface, its just straight black man.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, the impact would be lessened otherwise. Also Foola Zoola's old design was like actual black caricature in the original carl barks stories.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He was redrawn to look less over the top in the rereleases and the Rosa stories.

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Like the take away of the Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck is that making a fortune and name for yourself is nothing inherently wrong especially when you're helping your family and meeting new friends. But that Scrooge's downfall was letting his wealth and possessions posses him instead rather than what really mattered to him

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it's great in the last story, the templar treasure, where scrooge reconciles with his sister and tells her that Donald and the boys basically saved his soul

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Genuinely its kinda funny how like Donald never took Scrooge's shit even as a kid. He's one of a handful of people who doesn't back down to his uncle and that's fricking great.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do not believe you're able to accrue so much wealth without fricking people over in some capacity.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, and I don't believe ducks can talk either!

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.cbr.com/disney-banning-offensive-uncle-scrooge-dan-rosa/

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Scrooge deserves my wiener in his ass

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Scrooge larping as Scottish or a “Scottish-American” is cringe
    Bro you lived in America for at least 75 years in each adaption you are just an American now

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Even if he did make it square; nobody deserves to have so much money for any reason.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      ok, commie

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >noooo you can't rob the tombarino
    if those c**ts wanted their treasure they shouldn't have died

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Marxists ruin yet another thread and yet another cartoon with their fricking moralizing, what a goddamn surprise. It must be fricking Wednesday. At least cancel Scrooge for being racist not this “down with the bourgeois” bullshit.

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Does scrooge really deserve his wealth
    No because he made it by selling Opium from China disguised as oranges

  42. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Comic Scrooge got rich by exploiting native Africans with a rubber tree farm, that he later discovered diamonds on.

    Cartoon Scrooge discovered gold in Alaska.
    2017 Scrooge kept starting up businesses when his get rich quick schemes failed, and he got rich just living for a century on CEO income.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Cartoon Scrooge discovered gold in Alaska.
      He did in the comics too -- and owned rubber plantations. Read Barks

  43. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The answer only matters if it can be used to tell an engaging story.

  44. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes

  45. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    War profiteer

  46. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Jesus fricking Christ guys. This a cartoon duck made like, 80/70
    years ago. Why you all like this?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      WHERE DO YOU THINK WE FRICKING ARE?

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