Does swearing belong in Star Trek?
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officers swearing at lower ranked people is believable, the other way around not so much
it's the other way around
The show has been shit for years
That far in the future and they're still using fricking flashlights for tactical ground operations--moronic.
The problem I have is they're still using swear words that are thousands of years old--firefly had the right idea and just made shit up.
It comes from the very top--ever hear israeli financers talk about the goys' that keep them swimming in liquidity?
>firefly had the right idea and just made shit up
They didn't make anything up. They were swearing in chinese.
BSG made a bunch of felgercarb up through
Yes and that is one of the reasons that show was shit.
Go frak yourself.
When has Star Trek ever been trashy with things like saying frick and people sneering at each other and spitting at each other like that? It's a perfectly legitimate complaint, especially from older people.
it's valid from anyone
the entire premise of trek is that humanity has risen above these types of ugly surface level nonsense
ohhh lawd jeesus niggus is ruinin da space show
When did the trend of becoming openly hostile towards the people that sustain your career begin?
When they realized that they faced no consequences from expressing their hostility.
incorrect. it has a price but he price isnt high enough to deter his behavior because there will be always some people who watch out of blind brand loyalty
It's been getting higher and higher every time. Lots of shit has already flopped hard or got cancelled because of hostility toward consumers.
This entire year has been the year of woke flops. I don't even think yidsney actually turned a profit this year.
They didn't even have the funds to get lawyers to extend the copyright on Steamboat Willy. They fell so hard this year their grasp on Mickey is slipping.
Death to yidsney!
It really is galling for oldgays to remember how much Enterprise, and frankly also late season DS9/Voyager, had to struggle week to week with the "realities" of broadcast television
Then again, I guess ancient gays know TOS was the same way - CBS pulled the plug after three years, after all
Grim realities which somehow no longer exist because you now get infinite money for zero viewers
$8,500,000 every week for the newest Michael Burnham adventure that no human being on earth will ever actually watch or remember
Hey, it's like television has invented a post-scarcity economy of its own! Very Trek, huh?
You didn’t notice it as much watching on a small CRT screen. I’m watching through the TNG remasters right now. And it’s very obvious where they had rush along sets and props. A lot of scenes took place in cramped quarters or poorly lit areas. And don’t get me started on all the alien planets that were obviously the same Paramount soundstage with a different colored background.
> TOS was the same way - CBS pulled the plug after three years!
Since you don't know even the basic fact of what network the show was on, why should anyone pay attention to your rant?
>you confused which network owned the show thirty years ago with who owned it sixty years ago, looks like I win
>watchin the first season of babylon 5 in hd
>you can see the painted cardboard set pieces
When they realized that thanks to streaming (ie infinite money) they no longer have to care about making things appealing to the audience.
Around the early 2010s is when I remember it getting popular
>Slop trek
>Interracial
>atheism
Wrong post
Nepotism and checking boxes is what sustains their career, making the consumers happy and making money is secondary to this.
I think it was Wendys that started it with their X ( formerly Twitter) account, shitting back on people who didn't like their stuff. Expect they did it in a funny, tongue in check way.
All those nu-writers and such somehow didn't understand that actual real critique still warrants a professional response and only in very specific circumstances you can allow yourself to shoot back.
>wendy's
>funny
please die you zoomer homosexual
>get nepo'd into a position they shouldn't be in
>openly resent what they're working on
>openly resent people who tell them they're doing it wrong
>frick things up on purpose as a display of power
basically.
When they realized that they entire mainstream media would support their childish behavior and, in fact, praise them for their c**tishness.
Because its not the people watching that sustain their career. This is an agenda. They have a job no matter how much the "audience" complains. They know the show has already been greenlit for multiple seasons, so they don't bother holding their tongue
>diversity hire has opinion
>it's fan-insulting trash
I should be used to it by now, but it still makes me angry. They're getting paid to ruin things people with actual talent and respect for the fans created.
Why would people with talent let these activists join in the team then?
Well in Roddenberry's case, having been dead for 30 years makes it difficult to protest what is currently happening to his creation.
The people who were running Star Trek throughout the 90's also pretty much lost control of it when there was some change of leadership at Paramount too. That's when JJ Abrama Star Trek happened.
It feels like Alex Kurtzman has been there forever with no end in sight.
Unfortunately he seems to have Kathleen Kennedyed his way into permanent boss-mode no matter how much he shits on it.
Mass Effect 3
Around the time corporations in the entertainment industry decided to go scorched earth on their respective cash cows by hiring poorly-adjusted people to work on franchises they have open contempt for
Having a certain level of disdain for the public is actually based and necessary for artists. The problem is these new diversity hire writers are morons without original thoughts who just shit all over pre-existing IPs; they are the public to be disdained. Marks are in the ring.
I mean... Sometimes the corp that employs a person specifically never wants them to grow or advance ever.
In which case I recommend job hunting and being an butthole on your way out because they deserve it.
They want the latinx lgbt gay homie audience. Not old white men.
You mean the audience so autistic that they will stop watching because it was established in a movie that in the future they don't wear so it's all non-canon and not a real part of trek?
That audience?
When women entered into executive creative positions.
DING DING DING
Finally, someone got it.
Squidward ruined an entire generation of employees.
If you can’t handle swearing I doubt you were ever a fan
If you're willingly defending nu-Trek, you're definitely not a fan.
When women and minorities no longer had to fear repercussions for their actions.
"Taking responsibility" evaporated.
Paul Feig of 2016 Ghostbusters
when diversity hires started
Occupy Wall Street
>NOOO I'M THE HECKIN' CUSTOMERINOOO YOU HAVE TO TREAT ME LIKE A SULTAN!!!
Lmao, customers are just as moronic as creators, nothing wrong in telling them off.
Not everyone has to be a waiter working for tips.
Frick me? Nah, frick you and you can forget about me giving you clicks or money. I win
>When did the trend of becoming openly hostile towards the people that sustain your career begin?
when they stopped caring about hiding their nepotism, so around 2012; Occupy wallstreet failed and the demons of babylon took off their masks, forcing their golems to engage in nonstop bloodspot with each other. You wont do anything about it
When the progressive stack was used by the glowBlack folk to destroy Occupy Wall Street. Literally.
Because it’s all designed to piss you off, because your piss them off.
I think gamergate began to normalize it
>October Revolution
Why are people so mean to watchers of television and film?
that's it, it's time to rise up.
>A society that is beyond our brutish society still needs to act like we do now
This is why everything being made is shit.
"I have been and always shall be your homie"
Yes, much better and more relatable to the modern audience.
Nice
>Kirk: Deadass deadass fr fr no cap
>I DID EXACTLY WHAT A homie GOTTA DO!
bet
>Of all the things I've encountered on my travels, he was the most-
He was the realest
>The needs of all y'all muh fuggs is mo 'n the needs of this lil' homie fr
can u put broccoli hair on them tho
why not have swearing in slop trek it has everything else cringe like interracial and atheism
Because it should appeal to all ages.
Actors who can't take my insightful criticism should stay out of my Star Trek franchise.
Jesus Christ, Kira is looking haggard. I can't even imagine how Odo must look at this point, he was ancient when DS9 started.
>I can't even imagine how Odo must look at this point
Here's a pic of him from last year, at a con with Nichelle Nichols. They've lost some weight.
>haggard
she is looking great for her age and I would definitely frick her
>Kira is looking haggard
She's 66.
>Odo
He's dead.
He's dead, Jim.
>implying I even gave any attention to season 1
>Does swearing belong in Star Trek?
In NuTrek? I guess, I mean it isn't going to make it any worse.
NuTrek has no idea what people liked about pre-2000 Star Trek and even if it did they wouldn't make their shows like that anyways so who cares, it's not like some c**t not calling Picard a fricktard would somehow make this garbage watchable.
Diversity hire
oh lawd the rangz in space
Sing truth to powa sistaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>If you don't like my politics, don't buy my book.
Deal.
There was swearing in TOS, so yes.
>That 'sode when Scottie and Sulu got in an argument. And Scottie called him a c-slur f-slur. And Uhura tried to calm him down and he called her an n-slur c-slur.
I like how Scotty started to randomly wear this hairstyle. way better than the straight down one. Oh frick they recast Scotty didn't they?
Calling someone a Pu'tak isn't the same as that arrogant b***h in Piccard Season 1 calling out Jean Luc for the "Sheer FRICKING hubris" of his actions and request.
>sheer fricking hubris
Someone wrote this line and was proud of it.
>Oh it's captain picard that guy who saved the universe 20 or 30 times I'm gonna swear at him and be a c**t lol
who writes this shit.
>Who writes this shit
Fat lesbians that hate their fathers
I have such great respect for elderly women in highly political roles!
No, it's supposed to feel civilised and classy.
doesn't matter whether you think there would be swearing in real life. It throws off the tone.
>Does swearing belong in Star Trek?
No.
But the show is written by human garbage now so it's no surprise.
Not unless it’s a non-human species.
Starfleet doesn’t need to curse beyond a Picard like “damned”. It’s like having the Charlie Brown gang go on an Eric Cartman tirade about Kyles mom.
Picard swearing in French both made him sound classy and underscored the seriousness of the situation. Worf was probably thinking slurs about other species all the time, but maintained his professionalism on duty.
Based. Don't like it don't watch homosexual. The free market will sort it out.
No one's watching nutrek
He's awkward and clumsy, because he's out of his element in a less civilised time.
In modern Star Trek he would call the guy a motherfricker, and take a drag on his vape.
They were time traveling and literally did it to fit in. The humor of the movie was relient on their fish out of water situation and how socially awkward they were.
>Woah they’re so out of their element coming from a more enlightened peaceful society they have trouble blending in with our rude society.
Vs
>Despite centuries of progress and the end of scarcity in a world where replicators can do anything and there is no poverty…
>Somehow the black b***h has a drug problem, lives in a trailer and complains about Picard’s family farm. Even though she should be able to replicate an entire farm and the heirloom furniture for nothing.
I think they just hate Trek
I think the state controls replicator access.
>Time traveling to "dark ages" past
>Get called a dumbass
>Dont even know what it means but recognize it as a insult
>Call the guy a double dumbass because you dont know how to swear back
Its hilarious and fits. Kirk never told spock to OBEY MY FRICKING ORDERS .
It wouldn't be funny if Kirk ever did this any other time.
Would you go to a fancy restaurant and start talking loudly about the sores on your dick?
There's your answer. That's what Star Trek is now, in essence.
Sometimes I do after getting my food so they kick me out and I don't have to pay or at least tip.
Riker used to say what the hell and Captain Archer says "son of a b***h" so it's ok in moderation, but Picard going "fricking gruelling hours" is out of character especially considering how humanity is meant to be enlightened by the 24th, now 25th, century
~~*they*~~ want to drag everything down to Black person level, american culture's Black personization has ramped up considerably in recent years.
Those are soft swearing at worst. No one outside of America even really thinks "Hell" is a swear word, and b***h just means dog.
They're rude within certain contexts, but they're not like saying "c**t", or "shit".
>Those are soft swearing at worst.
I know I'm just trying to explain that there was a precedent for swearing in moderation. Some families won't let their kids say "what the hell" because it invokes Hell
Those people are basically nuts though.
There's tiers to swearing. Damn and He'll invoke conceptual religious ideas and are acceptable even in child's cartoons. b***hs are female dogs and asses are mules so that gets a light pass. There's no excuse for a frick. Maybe from a cadet. DEFINITELY from Chief O'Brian talking about his c**t of a wife. He definitely says frick, but only in Quark's and the holodeck.
Woah they added fricky wuckies so we know it’s a show for heckin adults??? Stand aside stupid boomers this is a millennial show now! Lmaoooo
censoring the word makes it even more pathetic
its not about millenials. its about training the lower classes to easily out themselves as such by intentionally degenerating their collective common parlance.
>Does swearing belong in Star Trek?
no it doesn't. OG star trek was the best because it wasn't for hood homies and wannabe homosexuals. putting in swearing will only attract those kind of people as verified in tawny my name is tawnys comment
the sad part is you truly believe the words you're saying.
Jay ell literally says merde in s1 tng and bones says damn a lot in tos
>search thread for "merde"
Yup, I knew at least one of you disingenuous homosexuals would pull this. Yes, Picard saying "Merde" is somewhat risqué/surprising if you know any French. But one character uttering a swear word in a foreign language (and not loudly/angrily) twice over the course of an entire series =/= non-stop, in-your-face, mean-spirited vulgarity. Not even close.
its mostly surprising because french is a dead language and picard wouldnt have the time nor inclination to learn it
So is Latin and we still use a few words or phrases. Picard probably knows some French without knowing the whole language.
PEDICABO EGO VOS ET IRRUMATO
I think the most French he ever had in one episode was singing Frere Jacques.
The whole Picard-is-actually-French thing is pretty bizarre anyway. Apparently Roddenberry originally wanted a French actor, for some reason... and then for some reason they didn't bother to make the appropriate tweaks after Stewart was cast. Reeks of Americans thinking all of Europe is the same somehow.
Also, a Frenchman would pronounce it "Merd-uh", so, it's just weird all round. But yeah, a minor, minor oddity that Nu Trek homosexuals want to pretend is the equivalent of the non-stop, jarring vulgarity in their beloved abominations.
I think it's the same way frasier and niles pass notes in community college in french
boomer americans think it makes you seem extra cultured
MERDRE
In the 1980s they had a feeling that all European cultures would blend together in a couple of centuries. So a Frenchman having a British accent would make sense. They had no idea how it would really go down. With the continent gradually becoming a soup of black, brown, and white.
Kissinger really was a moron, wasn't he?
It in no way is non-stop nor mean-spirited. Suck my coq au vin.
>akschually, they aren't literally swearing in every second of screen time
>akschually, the creators really love Star Trek because they're on record as saying they do
Your gay shows are bad and you should feel bad.
And yet I don't and you can't make me. Guess you got hoisted by your own Picard, buddy.
>apologist for Nu Trek
>you can't make me feel bad
Don't have to. It'll happen anyway.
>Suck my coq au vin.
it's pronounced "cocoa van" so that doesn't really work.
Suck my coco van!
do employees who tell customers to avoid the company's product deserve to keep their jobs?
no they do not
I wouldn't mind the occasional swear but it should be pretty light on it
the problem with swearing in non canon parody cartoon is that they are cowards and use bleeps so it deliveries all of the offensiveness with none of the edgy comedy.
>Troondy NewMan
My tradwife would never say bad words, if I had one. She would be pure, like an angel. Bad words hurt my feelings and are only proper for prostitute.
Also, frick Black person troony israelite c**ts.
t. Cinemaphile
There's a place for everything. Cinemaphile is explicitly a gutter. That's the point. The entire world isn't supposed to be a gutter.
> The entire world isn't supposed to be a gutter
Sauce?
the entire world is literally a gutter. every atom of your body was once a piece of shit. everything you'll eat was once a piece of shit. every breath you take was farted out of some orifice. Every molecule of water has been pissed out of something.
Doesn't sound like Star Trek.
>Oh lord the fans are being pearl-clutchers
Sit down. Be humble. Don't taunt the fans. Consider yourself lucky to catch a break in an industry where many struggle for years to get nowhere. A show with a built-in fanbase too. Listen to what the fans have to say and take it on board, even when you disagree with their opinions. If things don't work out for you career-wise you may one day find yourself relegated to the convention circuit and at that point you'll really need the fans.
We Wuz Tarantinoes and Shiet
Tarantino's Trek script is locked in a filing cabinet inside JJ Abram's production company. They'll never make it. And we'll never even get to read it.
no one ever seriously considered it and they just bring it up out to remind everyone how nutrek isnt as bad as it could have been
A Tarankino Trek would've been the best Trek flick. Easily. Probably.
it would have at least been more interesting than any of the dogshit they have released since 2008
That probably would have been alright though
>most good Star Trek conflicts amount to tense situations where people have a conversation
>most good Tarantino conflicts amount to tense situations where people have a conversation
He also unironically respects 60's TV, and would probably want to honour the tone of it.
He publicly complained at one point that Benedict Cumberbatch wasn't "his" Kahn. That's the level of fan he is.
He'd be better than anyone who has touched Star Trek in decades.
his whole schtick is disrepect. hed cast sam jackson or some random hole to shit all over the civilized future gene envisioned for us. thank god the clowns at paramount didnt want anything to do with it
The thing is he actually likes Star Trek though. He also likes Shatner. He's not going to take a big shit all over something he has real respect for.
When he made Kill Bill, he wasn't like "lol samurai movies are shit". He just made a samurai movie.
Knowing him, I think he'd probably want to play up some of the manliness and sexual potency of Star Trek, which honestly is fine. Gene was all about that. Maybe there'd be a hint of 60's psychodelia about it, which also is fine.
Tarantino directed an ER episode and as far as I know, it wasn't a "Tarantino" episode, but a rather normal one.
I saw his CSI 'sode. It had some 'Tino flair. As far as I remember, which I barely do. I don't know if you wrote those or just directed. With the new Trek flick, he wasn't going to direct. Just write. Co-write along with the guy who wrote the Revenant.
Tarantino's thing has always been doing loving homages to kind of low budget 70's schlock he grew up watching and enjoying. Something like Star Trek Is clearly a bit more restrainted than his typical inspirations but I think he would do it justice .
Show some foot and maybe Quentin will show you.
Sure. But the main cast swearing while on the job feels off.
>lol just dont watch our show!
>WHY ARE YOU NOT WATCHING OUR SHOW RACCISS!
they never fricking learn lmao.
It can if it's carefully done. Like if the crew were to travel to a planet that resembles modern Earth and they want to blend in with the locals. They shouldn't casually do it among themselves though.
Star Trek became an iconic series because it was something that families could watch together. The sex and violence were there but always off screen or in the background. Now with all the new shows going for an adult audience, it’s not creating lifetime fans anymore.
But then again, do children even have the patience to follow a 45 minute storyline?
Truth. There is a reason the Dick van Dyke show was such a hit in the 60s.
Ah yes, the show that invented the dumbass husband and the nagging wife who wears the pants (both figuratively and literally). How the Overton Window has shifted.
Hit the nail on the head.
This. It isn't the progressive stuff that bothers me (Star Trek has always had it so far as the standards of when each show came out), it isn't the bad words in and of themselves, it's the way it's written and handled. You have these young idiots who project their immaturity onto what is supposed to be sci-fi for thinkers. But now it's for morons.
They are 24 minute storylines.
Trek constantly has weird alien sex shit happening it was just better written and was played straight you disingenuous frick
No it doesn't, there are lots of reasons why but the number one, and only one that matters, is that one of the movies had a scene which specifically established that people in the future don't swear. Simple as that. Any swearing which takes place after that is incongruous with the continuity and is incorrect.
Excessive swearing is evidence of poor limited vocabulary. We're told Starfleet officers are in face educated people who enjoy reading and learning. So, no.
Swearing once in a while is fine, but the more you do it, the more you are telling us you barely know words to express yourself better.
from some scumsucking alien or disenfranchised human populaces maybe
starfleet? no
>Data is fascinated with human history and watches old movies
>walks onto the bridge
>innocently says "Hello everybody, how the frick are you doing?" without knowing what the word "frick" means
>everyone else has horrified looks on their faces
>Data tries his hand at comedy again
>Looks up popular comedians of the 21st century for reference
>Concludes that the essence of comedy is cramming as many ‘fricks’, shits, and ‘wienersuckers’ into conversation as possible
The only TNG episode to earn a TV-MA rating.
>Picard ejects him from the bridge
>"Did I do something wrong?"
This and literal open advertising is pretty much all Cinemaphile is at this point. It also appears to be the board with the highest % of female posters.
It seems like
is.
>avoid our show
Okay
>"STAR TREK IS WHAT I A PARASITE WHO DIDN'T CREATE IT OR GIVE A SHIT ABOUT LEGACY DECIDE IT IS BECAUSE IT'S MY PLATFORM FOR MY FEELINGS!"
Wokesters really need to go play in fire.
Anon you do realize racial slurs are swear words too right? Welcome to the brown boys club.
Oh sweet summer child when Captain Picard said "frick around and find out you klingonian frickstick of bro energy" I cheered and yippied
Yes, especially the Black person-word.
A talented writer could make some swearing work in Trek, but they would need to understand the rule to break it effectively.
These clowns just shoved in some swears in because they don't know how to write a hostile conversation without them. It wasn't done as some kind of message about Star Trek or the Federation or anything. They are just that talentless.
A security team full of amped up bros can swear. And they can hip-fire their phasers while muttering 'get some, get some'.
La'an strikes me as the type of security chief who never swears because it is seen as a crutch.
For me its boimler literally buck naked presenting his butthole to be fricked with minimal censorship.
Yes I know its a holodeck simulation of a "naked time/naked now" situation. I dont care. I dont want to watch your memberberry vending machine bullshit if it's going to be like this.
Of course the writers don’t understand those episodes worked because the sex was merely implied. They think that because it’s on streaming they can show the character’s dick or butthole for an easy laugh. Classic episodes had to work against the censors and be very clever with their wording. I.e. Data being “fully functional and programmed with many techniques”.
what in the frickity frick?
No.
>lol chud snowflakes why are you pearl clutching over swearing
Black person
>AAAAAAAANNNNOOOOOOOOOOO BY SCIENCE SAVE MEEEEEEEE
pretty sure this was directed at Picard and not her rick and morty star trek
It's crazy how many people's brains are just so fried that they can't even comprehend finding something tasteless and unappealing.
Star Trek was always bad (and extremely progressive slop)
Nostalgiagays just can't let it go
>Star Trek has always been progressive
Swearing does NOT because it implies a barbarous society, the Federation is supposed to be beyond that as it is the next stage of civilization. Above things such as crude behaviour, avarice, envy, hate.
Not to say there aren’t characters who fall short of that from time to time but it’s the ideal they all strive for. At worst you can get O’Brien using ethnic slurs to describe Cardassians… but he has PTSD and watched Cardassians butcher and rape civilians. If anyone was understandably barbarous in language it would be O’Brien.
These nu startrek writers don't know what civilization is. Or what it means. They can't comprehend how a future civilization has advanced beyond our modern times would be fascinating or even awe inspiring to the viewers.
They know nothing, they have lived no life, read no books (Harry Potter does not count), have not felt want or need, and believe death will not come for them.
They are hollow people and they write hollow stories, and I hate them.
So there are people itt unironically arguing for nu-trek? is it a contrarian thing?
nah, they are just moronic and have zero taste
Twitter users do not belong on Earth.
And yet they remain and there's nothing you can do about it.
Frick off Mike.
Just command them to kill themselves, they'll actually do it.
Everybody talks, acts and looks like they are in some shitty LA art college.
Because these idiots write what they know, and they know jack shit (and Jack commited suicide)
That's always the most offputting part about nuSlop for me.
People would say that characters in the old shows were too stuffy or robotic in their mannerisms but in the context of the show, it makes sense. They're future people who are far removed from our current culture.
As soon as the STD characters started sounding all, "like, totally, oh my god, holy shit! Frick! Well THAT just happened" I felt my brain leaking out.
>oh good heavens, are they swearing; what has the world come to
Every day hysterical busybodies in the internet find something spectacularly moronic to complain about and crush what little hope I had left in humanity in the process.
It´s always real funny to me when anons are talking about something and then some utter moron, who has not understood a single word being spoken, feels the need to pipe up regardless.
Yeah your hope in humanity has vanished because people don´t like their stupid Star Trek to be as vulgair as an LA art school, big deal, get over yourself you fricking idiot.
The absolute raping of star trek for the last 14 years was ok, but you intentionally misunderstanding people on a japanese child porn forum is what broke the camels back?
When you realize the average chan morlock is 40, still living in his divorced Mother's apartment and collecting tard disability, the last piece of the puzzle falls into place.
TV for adults isn't TV for them. Hence the crying over "bad words".
I said frick off Mike, before I make a mashed potato out of you
"TV for adults" is unironically TV for kids. If you're still impressed by fricky words, and you don't roll your eyes a little bit whenever you hear someone spouting them like it's impressive, you're the child, not anyone else.
If you can't appreciate solidly good storytelling, and a likable cast of mature adults, with minimal sex and blood to jazz it all up, you are also a child. If your actual thought process is "this would be more for me if we could see Worf cut people's heads off with his sword, and there was breasts in it", you are mentally ten years old.
You're replying to this homosexual who shits up every Trek thread at any given time of the day by flooding them with nutrek garbage. It's probably Mike McMahan himself.
FRICKFACE
>just don't watch our show
>okay, we won't
>nooooo why is our show failing?!
I can live with the swearing. Tawny however does not belong in Star Trek.
Ok, I won't watch it.
Ok that's fine. When do they say the n word?
I've seen Generations once and I have no memory of Data saying 'Oh Shit'. The only thing I remember was that film being a piece of shit.
That was the one where Data got his emotions chip installed and he went kinda moronic in the process. Not a bad movie certainly better than Insurrection or Nemesis but they did do Captain Kirk.dirty,never like how that turned out
>In my century, we don't succumb to revenge. We have a more evolved sensibility.
If Paramount can't find a buyer in 2024 they might have to file for bankruptcy. Why are these people so smug about sending the company they work for into billions of dollars of debt?
Remember the DS9 finale where Sisko and Dukat fought in Nutty Putty Cave? Good times
You know the meme where it's if vivziepop made *insert show* and it's a bunch of fricks c**ts pussies and gays with daddy issues? That's what picard felt like to me. It's the only reason why i'm glad that hazbin/helluva exists, just so people realize that swearing just for swearing's sake doesn't work at all. Especially in regards to "millenial writing", it makes it even more childish, just like a 10 year old who discovered south park and eminem
You moron. Gen X writes it.
I am so ashamed ay generational cohort, we are not producing neither good kids nor good popular culture. It hurts extra when I know how much we loved and appreciated everything the earliest genX and boomers created, despite shitting all over them so often.
Feel your pain. I'm late late GenX and I'm culturally aligned to boomer shit like you wouldn't believe. TAS on Nickelodeon was the gateway drug to Nick at Nite.
Maybe if most gen x'ers weren't divorced deadbeats they would have better kids
Morn never swore, and he was shitfaced every day
>open tab
>check organic Trek thread about swearing
>merde
>what kind of petaQ would curse on Trek
>are they out of their damned Vulcan minds
>everyone should be polite instead
>unless you're a Zaldan, frick those b***hes
>close tab
I'll only accept swearing if its the words homosexual, Black person, prostitute, c**t, and b***h
Does this thing say Dead Klingon Storage?
I'll only accept a dead bajoran storage
Cursing is okay but there’s a difference between good writing and trash.
im so surprised that you guys hate lower decks with such intensity. i just watched all 4 seasons and i thought it was one of the best things on tv. people complaining about swearing and some minor vulgarity, this show is extremely tame compared to shit like rick and morty
the episode that shows the antics of t'lynn on the vulcan ship when the pakled planet gets blown up is the funniest trek related thing i have ever watched. the trek fandom is so poisonous and nasty. i honestly hope you guys had a new trek show that you all really enjoyed thoroughly so i could have my mid 'trash' like lower decks (and SNW, i liked that a lot too) in peace. tawny and quaid are awesome.
And they finally sent out the nutrek shills
how people seriously think paramount has money for shills is beyond me, they are probably fricking broke as shit, say goodbye to trek for awhile. this whole shill argument on Cinemaphile has always been such a drag, you cant even discuss something in a thread made to discuss it in a positive way without being a shill. if any of you worked in advertising i think you'd understand the rate of return for paying someone to shit post about a tv show on here of all places is basically zero. if you want to shit on something, at least have the decency to do it without the no effort 'SHILL!" b***hing
>Say goodbye to trek for awhile
Thank GOD. it needs a rest after being raped for 14 years
>If any of you worked in advertising i think you'd understand the rate of return for paying someone to shit post about a tv show on here of all places is basically zero.
So you DO admit you're an advertising shill, you're just shilling here for free off the clock? Damning.
I've not accused anyone of shilling in this thread, but it seems odd to me that you can't fathom Paramount chucking maybe a few thousand on shills when it's spunking literally millions on every episode of Nu Trek. It's not like that'd make them any *more* bankrupt.
The worst thing about Lower Decks is it isn't funny.
As far as modern Star Trek goes, it's actually the best one. It looks like a Star Trek show, and has the appropriate references and call backs, instead of being weirdly mean spirited about everything.
That one clip of Riker showing up in the Titan is just what Trek should have been in the post-Voyager era, but we aren't allowed that for some reason.
>the writer thinks he’s being clever for “subverting” Star Trek but also follows every lazy adult animation trope to a T
>but at least I got to see Glup Shitto again in a lazy beanmouth artstyle cooked up by some talentless asiatics at Titmouse Vancouver
Like I said, it's not funny.
But there's a kind of implicit respect for the brand of Star Trek in Lower Decks that you aren't going to get in another modern ST show.
Discovery changed Klingons, and then screamed at fans about how they were wrong to complain for years, and Picard more or less just called Picard a stupid old white man over and over. Nothing about Lower Decks is that mean and disrespectful.
>that you aren't going to get in another modern ST show
It’s called Star Trek: Prodigy and the only caveat is that it’s more kiddy. But I’ll take that over a generic adult cartoon with a Star Trek coat of paint.
>"Oh my god, watch five minutes of Solar Opposites, and you'll see there are limits in Lower Decks," McMahan told TrekMovie after the Star Trek Day event earlier this month, referring to the other animated series he runs. "You know, I've never seen Star Trek as celebrating puritanism. I think that Star Trek has always embraced rape, violence, and all sorts of great stuff. When you're making shows like this, you're trying to find those limits. Even in TNG, you've got people tugging on Ferengi ears. There's always been that kind of stuff.
>"I think the moment that everybody has been all whipped up about has a Billups being raped by his mother, which, comedically, is funny. It was one of those moments where the writers kind of pushed for it and they made me laugh. And at the end of the day, we're trying to make a show that's Star Trek, but also makes you laugh. And I've got to be honest, for people that are pearl-clutching and freaking out because we had a rape plot in an adult animated show, it's just falling on deaf ears. It still felt like Star Trek to me. And if you're putting your six-year-old in front of Lower Decks, like, there's been other stuff. There's been other violence, there's been other complex stories that you're trusting them with. I think a man being raped by his mother is not the most adult thing we've done."
>McMahan says that he hopes to continue surprising fans with what they find in Lower Decks. "I think none of us make TV looking to make something that people expect," he says. "We look to make something that people are surprised by. I think sometimes you're not going to like stuff. Sometimes you're going to love stuff. There's a lot of different people watching these shows, and we're just doing our best to bring something into the world that makes us all really happy."
the real disingenuous part of this is that mcmahan is using a totally left-appeasing definition of rape. billups' mom emotionally manipulated him into losing his virginity. emotional coercion is not even in the same fricking galaxy. billups was never threatened with violence or any direct threats to his mental or physical well being.
its "rape" as much as a backwards culture trying to set up their kids to get married, and only the most hysterical leftists would call that rape.
>just watched all 4 seasons and i thought it was one of the best things on tv
you have some low standards
I can't wait for based Zaslav to fire this c**t
>Star Trek has graphic menstruation scenes now and that's a good thing
Not to mention the graphic space abortion scene. That one was...interesting
>avoid season 2 of our show altogether
Deal.
The problem with this is that the people creating nu-Trek don’t like or understand old Trek. So you have women and diversity hires changing the Federation into Trump’s AmeriKKKa so that they can write a #Resist #SmashThePatriarchy #BLM type of plot. It’s not mere bandwagoning, if you gave those writers a million years they couldn’t come up with an interesting sci-fi plot. They just don’t have the brain power. And now you have this sheboon who thinks criticism over the writing must be from wimps who hate swearing in general, cuz they ain’t hard homies like she be. If you gave her a million years she wouldn’t be able to understand why “frick you” is out of place in the Trek setting, because she has a Black person IQ. Black folk have an average of 80 IQ, while the rest of the human race averages 100. Really makes you think.
>GO FRICK YOURSELF ALIEBlack person LOVER, ALL ALIEBlack folk SHOULD BE FRICKING KILLED ESPECIALLY THE RAPEFUGEE ONES, HEIL OUR FUHRER DONALD DRUMPF!!!
damn... only adults can handle this shit, no wonder childish nerds are mad
I hate to shit on old people but the way Picard talks is just not good. It's like he's lying on his death bed. Is that the normal way he talks in interviews?
He’s making a conscious choice to play Picard like a feeble old man. He talked about it in interviews.
I see no problems with it.
>comfy family friendly period of space exploration with crew of various nationalities and races all getting together without any mentioned issue
>suddenly everyone is troony and gay and angry black with issues
Good things ever happening or being expected to happen in the future is outdated and racist
They made anything after DS9 and VOY? Strange, must be some kind of alternate universe I'm not living in
The problem with the entire Star Trek series is that it's a Progressive For Its Time wank that pretends to be a show about the navy in spaaaaace! When the challenges and characters are actually believable it has its moments. When it devolves back to its real mission of "white Gentile men are bad, bad, bad, bad," it goes back to being utter dreck.
>When it devolves back to its real mission of "white Gentile men are bad, bad, bad, bad," it goes back to being utter dreck.
If you whine this much about it maybe you deserve it. It's the equivalent of wearing a loose dress and complaining you were groped. Take it on the chin and don't react and then the writers realize they can't make ragebuzz clickdollars on it, lose interest and will move on. Swear to God your demographic is the tv equivalent of Chris Chan, eternally milkable for rage.
>ragebuzz clickdollars
I keep asking this every time it comes up by moronic small-L liberals on this board. Where is your proof that offending conservatives or le nazis generates revenue? I have never, ever seen one of you post it. Will you be the first?
Any b***hing about a show is redirected into the kind of culture war bait you see posted on Deadline and BuzzFeed and eventually the kind of normalgay shit you see on a browser start page. This keeps the media property relevant and hooks in people who want to see it once to see what it's all about; even if they are disgusted by the shit writing, the digital engagement guys count that as an encounter to report to the suits to justify more greenlighting of other shit. Just don't engage, don't complain, let it go, and it will either clean its act up or wither. Complaining gives people like Feige a boner because it turns Femmebusters tier mediocrity into a culture war icon. Stop being the controlled opposition.
Exactly, thats modern marketing 101 at this point. Best way to counter it is to ignore it entirely
>chris chan! chris chan! chris chan!
Give it a rest, grandpa.
A Measure of Man was great because it examined civil rights from all angles and was forced to present both sides of the issue.
>You only like the robot because it looks human. We would not be having the conversation if Data were a box on wheels!
Now every villain is racist because the plot needs a racist character to show how good the protagonists are.
We're living in the ww3/dark ages era of the Star Trek timeline and the people making movies think that's great, so it makes sense that trek media produced now would be terrible.
>and avoid season 2 altogether.
K, done.
wasnt season 2 the worst season of picard? or is this about a different show
>swearing
I guess they finally hired millennial writers
i love to watch lower decks while i suck on dirty wieners that were recently inside my butthole and will soon return to my butthole
We know
people that watch old trek can't bend over without breaking a hip and are too old to get it up either
Beats being a nutrek fan, they don't even exist
what a c**t
The day of reckoning will come.
Ah, old trashcan man, taking WB to unfathomable depths of low rent rubbish. Can't believe everyone thought he was going to save the DCEU.
People who needless cuss are moronic.
You never need to use a bad word, it just shows how lacking you are in intelligence to actually formulate a thought.
Frick, I didn't proofread my post to use proper grammars.
I like the cat doctor lady from Lower Decks
Imagine taking a show like Star Trek which has ALWAYS been woke libshit, but somehow everyone loves it and managing to make it woke shit that nobody likes.
I don't really want Star Trek to be Captain Planet x Reading Rainbow.
Swearing, gore, sex is welcome in my Star Trek
I know these gay israelites can't do swearing or sex right but they can't do anything right
Canonically no. It is Star Trek canon that they did away with swearing hundreds of yearsp prior to the start of the show.
Have fun eating overpriced raw fish with some roastie that will ghost you in a week