>doesn't touch the ring
>has no idea if it's really the One Ring so doesn't know for sure that it has heat-resistant properties
>nonetheless tells Frodo to hold out his hand because the ring, which he JUST pulled from hot coals using a pair of tongs, is "quite cool"
Was Gandalf a fricking sociopath?
He is a 55,000 year old wizard / spirit creature.
Why do you think he gives a shit whether he might potentially burn a little hole in one single hobbit?
>He is a 55,000 year old wizard / spirit creature.
WHAT
and he has an 8,000 year old love interest?
He had just spent like 30 years in the catacombs of Gondor reading about the Ring. He knew it wouldn't be hot. He knew it was the Ring. He knew all of it, because of the aformentioned 30 years of studying he did between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings.
>because of the aformentioned 30 years of studying he did between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings.
it wasn't between the hobbit and the lord of the rings, it was between bilbo's birthday in the fellowship of the ring and the next time he comes to the shire is 50 years. Jackson could have done a better job showing this
wasn't it 17
lmao they sit thumbs during decades and then they pikachu face when fricking sauron builds an army during that time
yeah it is 17. I fricked up. Bilbo leaves home when he is 50 in the hobbit. The first chapter of fellowship happened when bilbo was 111 and frodo was 33. when gandalf returns and frodo leaves frodo is 50. That is where I was getting the number from
Jackson could've also put to rest why the eagles didn't fly the ring to Mt Doom
>they don't want to take sides because Sauron will genocide their species, which is already teetering on the brink of extinction
One simple throwaway sentence and the brainlets would have nothing to complain about.
he could have just had a line about them being afraid of orc arrows
Tolkein's own words about the eagles: "Shut up."
The book doesn't flat out state why the eagles were a bad idea, but it does imply. Tolkien probably got tired of litlets thinking they found a Gotcha moment.
>give ring to bird
>tell bird to fly to the most dangerous place on earth that has superior air force and air defense
If they used the eagles, they might as well just have given the ring to Sauron
Why did he need so much time to read up on the ring? First two or three decades is an absurd amount of time just to gather information for deducting whether the ring was actually the one ring and second why didnt he read up on it before, like they knew its still around and that it would show up eventually so why didnt this old frick prepare for that.
Sauron is also a fricking slug, was there for the creation tiof middle earth but takes decades to figure out where the shire is
You gotta understand that the ring had been lost for like, a thousand years at this point. It had passed out of memory. The Ring was in a creek, then it was picked up by some hoohah, and then it spent 100 years underground with said hoohah. Gandalf had to go back through ancient records to even find a mention of the One Ring.
>Gandalf had to go back through ancient records to even find a mention of the One Ring.
Are you telling me Gandalf doesn't have some innate, received wisdom due to being a Maiar or whatever?
How come Galadriel knows what the ring is but Gandalf doesn't?
galadirel knew the felloship was coming, carrying the ring. Although she probably would have felt that it was the one ring, as she herself is a ringbearer.
Gandalf knew it was a magic ring, but he didn't know which one it was.
Gandalf was also a ring bearer. He suspected something was wrong the second Bilbo showed up outside Moria in the Hobbit, and especially when he got Bilbo to admit he hadn't "won" the ring. He was fairly certain it was the one but didn't want it to be. And Sauroman, who he still trusted at that point, had claimed it had passed down Anduin into the sea and was lost. Gandalf is a maiar, not God, he's not omnipotent and has emotions just like everyone else.
Welcome to Christian symbolism in Tolkien. They were produced by God but they have no innate knowledge and free will.
> tolkien
> opposed to free will
Catholocism is not calvinist and free will vis original sin is fundamental to all branches of christianity save calvinist nuttery
I should have used a comma. The maiar have no innate knowledge, and they have free will.
He has a spell that lets him see temperature.
Yes, Gandalf was a sociopath. That is exactly what this particular scene is trying to convey.
Gandalf's ring lets him manipulate light and fire.
gandalf the sociopath
He said its "quite cool" because he thought holding a scalding hot metal ring would be fricking rad, not because he thought it was cold
Gandalf is a level 50 wizard. He knows shit.
He just KNEW OK???
Eagles are proud creatures.
>it's raining
>my feet hurt
>she doesn't even know I ate a rabbit today
The ring didn't melt.