I'm a DA fan and I don't know how to feel about it finally getting some attention. I thought the title drop last week would be our only big news for months. This looks fine, I guess. Probably won't be amazing.
I've got no hope since they are trying to build upon the corpse of Anthems engine for the game. Joplin was the best pitch for the fourth game years ago.
Expansion of the Mission Table systems as you lead an underground mission deep into enemy territories.
Wish we'd gotten that. Or at least a Legendary edition with updates and a bit more polish.
Dragon Age is a stupid title for this series because dragons are barely even featured after the first game. And the big important dragon in the first game wasn't even technically a dragon. A more accurate title would be "wizards ruin everything".
It's not about literal dragons, it's about the age, the time-period the story takes place in
It was only named the Dragon Age because a dragon, thought extinct, suddenly re-emerged and wrought chaos right before it started which signaled an upcoming century of uncertainty and turmoil. Thus far, they've not been wrong
>remember when animation had budgets?
FTFY. And it's not like Korra's animation and art quality didn't suffer a dip as the series went on. Book 4 looks so plastic and stiff compared to book 1.
Their video game stuff has never slowed down, they're just looking to do quick and easy adaptations of already established media instead of focusing on producing original content (though they're still making it, the studio that did Klaus has a new movie coming out).
>Female City Elf Origin >Sided with the Templars >Destroyed the Anvil of the Void >Crowned Harrowmont King >Did not defile Andraste's Ashes >Let Connor be killed by his mom rather than use blood magic >Freed the werewolves from the curse >Crowned Alistair as King with Anora as his queen >Spared Loghain and let him join the Wardens >Romanced Zevran >Denied Morrigan's dark ritual >Allowed Loghain to sacrifice himself to kill the Archdemon
Bhelen's a fricking weasel, I want to frick him over in almost every playthrough
The anvil can be good depending on circumstance but I had Shale in my party and I couldn't betray her
[...]
Yeah I put Bhelen on the throne. Plus he actually gives a shit (or at least pretends to) about a dwarf Warden going missing and he makes sure they get a statue.
Even as a dwarf noble, I can't just let Orzammar fall into ruin under Harrowmont. It's pure bullshit that a dwarven warden can't just become the monarch when they establish that in dwarven history someone went from casteless to king and paragon in one move, but given the options I have to choose dwarven supremacy over dwarven decline and ruin.
Shale can just sit in party camp and you can persuade her afterwards to not be angry at you.
I care more about results and he gets shit done compared to Harrowmont who would just have the dwarves continue down their long slow death.
Yeah I put Bhelen on the throne. Plus he actually gives a shit (or at least pretends to) about a dwarf Warden going missing and he makes sure they get a statue.
Even as a dwarf noble, I can't just let Orzammar fall into ruin under Harrowmont. It's pure bullshit that a dwarven warden can't just become the monarch when they establish that in dwarven history someone went from casteless to king and paragon in one move, but given the options I have to choose dwarven supremacy over dwarven decline and ruin.
Shale can just sit in party camp and you can persuade her afterwards to not be angry at you.
Bhelen is a ruthless c**t but he's a c**t with ambition that wants to actually improve Dwarven society. Harrowmont is "honorable" but utterly incompetent and becomes a bit of a despot.
Even as a dwarf noble, I can't just let Orzammar fall into ruin under Harrowmont. It's pure bullshit that a dwarven warden can't just become the monarch when they establish that in dwarven history someone went from casteless to king and paragon in one move, but given the options I have to choose dwarven supremacy over dwarven decline and ruin.
Shale can just sit in party camp and you can persuade her afterwards to not be angry at you.
At least he doesn't declare the Dwarf Noble Warden dead when he goes missing after Origins like Harrowmont does.
[...]
Yeah I put Bhelen on the throne. Plus he actually gives a shit (or at least pretends to) about a dwarf Warden going missing and he makes sure they get a statue.
Even as a dwarf noble, I can't just let Orzammar fall into ruin under Harrowmont. It's pure bullshit that a dwarven warden can't just become the monarch when they establish that in dwarven history someone went from casteless to king and paragon in one move, but given the options I have to choose dwarven supremacy over dwarven decline and ruin.
Shale can just sit in party camp and you can persuade her afterwards to not be angry at you.
I care more about results and he gets shit done compared to Harrowmont who would just have the dwarves continue down their long slow death.
I'm a 'the ends do not justify the means' kind of guy. I do not doubt that Bhelen makes for a better ruler than Harrowmont and actually improves lives for even the casteless. But you have to take integrity into account and that is the last thing Bhelen has is integrity.
Harrowmont is a bad ruler but he's also ancient and will likely die within a decade to allow a better ruler to rise without a viper like Bhelen around stacking the cards in his favor. Bhelen will live for the better part of a century and based on his tactics he took to become King god only knows what fricked up shit he'll do to maintain his rule over the course of it. Things look good in the short-term with Bhelen but his character is compromised out of the gate and I don't doubt Orzammar will be bloodier for it in the real long-run for it with a morally bankrupt brat on the throne.
The years of suffering under Harrowmont until he croaks I imagine will be salvagable and then showing Bhelen's underhanded tactics will get you nowhere should help make sure his successor is someone with a sliver of honor in them to make things better.
The problem is Harrowmont is almost as shitty, if not shittier, except he doesn't get results with his actions. His particular brand of scheming is dedicated to upholding a status quo that has resulted in the very decline Orzammar has suffered from. At least Bhelen actually cares for the casteless and notes how much of an injustice their existence within their society is.
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I'm not convinced Bhelen genuinely cares about the casteless as anything more than an oppressed minority he can readily claim as a resource to further his goals. He strikes me as the man who doesn't see them as victims but as easy to score followers he can add to his supporters just by showing them a shred of human decency. It's a right thing for wrong reasons kind of deal with him
2 years ago
Anonymous
So what benefit does he have making his concubine his wife when she's pregnant with his son?
>male human noble warrior >templar/berserk/spirit warrior >dual-wield >romance morrigan >save connor >save eamon >save the mages >save the ashes of andraste >make peace with elves and werewolves >bhelen on the throne >destroy the anvil >take grimoire peacefully >retrieve stens sword >avernus research with ethics >harden alistair >harden leliana >have the threesome >have the ritutal >unite all of Ferelden >personally kill howe >personally kill vaughan >personally kill marjolaine >personally kill uldred >personally kill jowan >personally kill branka >personally kill kolgrim >personally kill the broodmother >personally kill the archdemon >alistair & anora on the throne >friends with everyone >redeem loghain >side with the architect >fight with the messenger >save both amarathine and vigils keep >hook finn and ariane up >go into the portal with morrigan >sit and watch entire credits to 30 Seconds to Mars This is War
>male human mage >save my fellow mages >make Bhelen king, keep the Anvil >make peace between werewolves and elves >have Isolde kill herself so I can enter the fade and save her kid >tell the demon she can come back for the kid later, frick it to learn blood magic >don’t defile the ashes >don’t romance anyone, focus on my magical studies >Make Alistair king cause he’s my bro >have him do the dark Ritual, getting my bro laid >ask for the Circle of mages be freed as my boon >become his chancellor, the Merlin to his Arthur
Wizards, no sense of right or wrong.
I also did all the possible choices to frick over Eamon the most, frick that guy.
Hardened Alistair is butthurt, turns his back on fighting the archdemon like a petulant child, will never forgive you, but he WILL take the throne you prepared for him. Everyone has to look out for themselves.
It may just be the way the dialogue is worded to be slightly ambiguous as to seem appropriate for any situation, but I swear he remains pissy all the way into Awakening when he arrives after you clear Vigil's Keep >hears all the Grey Wardens are dead >"Well, at least the "Hero of Ferelden" survived... that's something." (read in the most passive aggressive manner possible and can even respond 'Don't sound so disappointed'
He finally seems to get over it in Dragon Age 2 though, when you are brought up in conversation under these conditions he sounds friendly and casual
[...] >male human noble warrior >templar/berserk/spirit warrior >dual-wield >romance morrigan >save connor >save eamon >save the mages >save the ashes of andraste >make peace with elves and werewolves >bhelen on the throne >destroy the anvil >take grimoire peacefully >retrieve stens sword >avernus research with ethics >harden alistair >harden leliana >have the threesome >have the ritutal >unite all of Ferelden >personally kill howe >personally kill vaughan >personally kill marjolaine >personally kill uldred >personally kill jowan >personally kill branka >personally kill kolgrim >personally kill the broodmother >personally kill the archdemon >alistair & anora on the throne >friends with everyone >redeem loghain >side with the architect >fight with the messenger >save both amarathine and vigils keep >hook finn and ariane up >go into the portal with morrigan >sit and watch entire credits to 30 Seconds to Mars This is War
>male human mage >save my fellow mages >make Bhelen king, keep the Anvil >make peace between werewolves and elves >have Isolde kill herself so I can enter the fade and save her kid >tell the demon she can come back for the kid later, frick it to learn blood magic >don’t defile the ashes >don’t romance anyone, focus on my magical studies >Make Alistair king cause he’s my bro >have him do the dark Ritual, getting my bro laid >ask for the Circle of mages be freed as my boon >become his chancellor, the Merlin to his Arthur
Wizards, no sense of right or wrong.
I also did all the possible choices to frick over Eamon the most, frick that guy.
Does anyone ever DEFILE the Ashes in their playthrough?
It occurs to me I've done almost every 'evil' choice in DA except this one. Maybe if all those dragon-worshiping tards don't attack you on site on entering their backwater I'd be more inclined but in general it just seems like such a particularly cruel thing to do is to defile someone's earthly remains, particularly that of the most significant person in Thedas history
My Dalish Elf runthrough I did it. The concept of the build was 'Make Elvhen Great Again' through any means necessary and frick the humans at every opportunity (killed the werewolves and sided with Zathrian lol). Even more specifically, targeting the Chantry that led the Exalted Marches on us long ago and kicked us out of the Dales, my character seeing the Chantry as a bastardization of whatever believes the original Andraste held firm who betrayed the elves who followed her.
This involved siding with Mages against Templars (an arm of the Chantry), and defiling the ashes as to do anything to weaken their faith. Hardened Leliana beforehand though as not to lose her, but romanced Morrigan for obvious reasons of anti-Chantry mentality. Then I put Alistair on the throne as to maintain an ally once I received the southern reaches of Ferelden in my boon to restart our new glorious elven empire
>that pic
I think it’s hilarious how even in game of Inquisition there’s the literal “Chad ancient elf vs virgin modern elf” when you compare Solas body model to the player elf’s.
It's one of the most pointless evil choices I can think of in a Bioware game. Your only motivation to taint the ashes is to get back on the good side of a cult you've already slaughtered most of and in the process you lose access to a miracle cure.
It never seems really worth it unless you are literally out to be the edgiest evil guy who does every evil choice since it can cost you two companions, one being the dedicated healer you might need depending on the game difficulty.
I do miss when BioWare let you be evil, DAI’s “evil” dialogue choices were basically just being mildly rude to people, you couldn’t even kill any companions.
>didn't see any dwarves >didn't see any Qunari
Has me a little concerned since they are the best races. But at least I played Dragon Age which is more than I can say for League of Legends or Castlevania so it'll be fun to finally be "the guy who played the games" for once.
Did anybody watch the anime film or Felicia Day's web series?
There's a qunari chick and a dwarven man with the group. >Did anybody watch the anime film or Felicia Day's web series?
I watched the movie and it was just ok, I guess. Couldn't bring myself to watch Felicia Day's thing though it just looked too bad. >But at least I played Dragon Age which is more than I can say for League of Legends or Castlevania so it'll be fun to finally be "the guy who played the games" for once.
Yeah it's weird. I doubt this will be popular or even really good but I thought Mass Effect would get the Netflix series before Dragn Age would, if ever.
I'm afraid they're going to fall into the old Bioware habit of trying to go for something way out of their league in terms of gameplay and insist on building the game around that and refusing to drop it when it becomes obvious it's not going to work and as a result the rest of the game suffers for it. No I'm not afraid of gay or trans characters, it's Dragon Age, I know what I'm playing.
I liked the elf girl in Inquisition. She was fun. I'd rather play a dude and break down the stoic woman's barriers over her love of trashcan romance novels. But the elf was fun.
>hopes
cut the MMO bloat
well designed dungeons like Redcliffe in DAO
quests like The Landsmeet and Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts.
female dwarven romance option
female qunari romance option
you get to see the divine you picked in person >fears
they will STILL try to push mage rights even though you're in fricking Tevinter
Vivienne as Divine will be the new King Harrowmont and Leliana will be the new Bhelen
>they will STILL try to push mage rights even though you're in fricking Tevinter
They're definitely doing this. The whole Mage/Templar conflict always had a minor subtext of "oppressed minorities vs brutal cops". Now consider how the narrative has changed since 2014 on that issue. Bioware won't be able to stop themselves.
>they will STILL try to push mage rights even though you're in fricking Tevinter
They're definitely doing this. The whole Mage/Templar conflict always had a minor subtext of "oppressed minorities vs brutal cops". Now consider how the narrative has changed since 2014 on that issue. Bioware won't be able to stop themselves.
Nah the issue of mages vs templars is effectively over, the Circles are weakened or just don't exist anymore in the south. But in the north the Chantry has considerably less influence. >Tevinter: don't need to explain that one >Nevarra: necromancy is the backbone of their culture >Rivain: after Tevinter the Chantry has the weakest presence there, the annulment of their Circle before DAI is definitely going to have further weakened it
Anderfels is pretty devout but it's also huge and sparse and also home to the Warden who don't give a shit. The series is at least for now done with the "should mages be free" question because the setting has moved to places where that's not really a question.
I think you have to be a certain kind of stupid jackass if you think Bioware is going to reference or handle an in-world issue that has no real world equivalent in relation to George Floyd.
While I doubt they'll make a direct reference they are, absolutely, going to triple down on the 100% anti-templar stance in the modern political climate.
The BEST you could hope for would be that they see mages as guns, so they would actually be forced to pit GUNS v. COPS and struggle enough politically that they accidentally create a nuanced conflict. But thats very unlikely.
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Anonymous
idk there's a story in tevinter nights about how the templar order in tevinter basically can't do anything to investigate a crime (they're more like detectives) because it leads to an influential and rich mage family. they're definitely still trying to 'both sides' it even if the setting is leaning towards a resolution that at bare minimum doesn't involve children being taken from their families and locked in towers where they're raised by people who actively hate them.
I don't have any hopes, just fears. >the ending has you "fix" the fade and make it so it only has benign spirits >solas solos the remaining two archdemons to establish his power level after absorbing flemeth >we go to seheron, where the qunari are even further ruined >tevinter will be kinda lame after three games of buildup >gameplay that desperately wants to be an action game but refuses to give up the RPG elements, resulting in a mess that does neither particularly well >darkspawn companion >side quests that only make sense if you watch the netflix show
They attempted to move away from it in DA2. Remember that great dev line: "Press a button and something awesome happens". Just how RTWP does that sound to you?
A woke writter should be the least of your worries for this show Disney is looking to buy EA and their IPs including Dragon Age.... that is the real worry,,,,
Dragon Age has become increasingly pozzed with every entry, can't say I was too excited to begin with but we'll. Also all these people leaving Bioware during development doesn't seem like a good sign
I’m kind of sickeningly curious to see how much more they can go, like I’m fully expecting a trans companion who only reveals it like midway through their romance and the game gives no option to break it off.
>Dragon Age 2 >Ass Effect 3's ending >Warhammer Online canceled >Dragon Age Inquisition >Shadow Realms canceled >Ass Effect Andromeda >Anthem
How the frick is Bioware not shuttered and sold by now? How the frick are they getting a cartoon series?
Inquisition didn't flop and isn't considered a failure by Bioware or EA. >it was a weak year for video games
Yeah and it was still considered the best of the weakest.
Warden was a hard as stone Dwarf Noble who was political adept and ruthless. Did everything to combat the darkspawn and ended up becoming a living god to the dwarves of Orzammar, even helping his backstabbing brother keep the ruling power within the family.
Hawke was a woman with nothing who resorted to gaining power to Kirkwall underground as a smuggler and later assassin. Her only redeeming quality was the loyality she had for friends and family, in the end her mother's murder by a mage turned her sour on magic and she sided with the templars, although she saved Bethany from the circle and when demanded to kill her own sister turned on Meredith.
The Inquisitor was an elf who didn't fit into human mythology and denied being the savior of her racial enemies until, slowly, she embraced being a champion for all peoples and a symbol of hope. Solas broke her heart.
>Warden
based >Hawke
as good as you can make Hawke I guess >Inquisitor
for me it's the tal'vashoth mage who starts to really believe he is the herald of Andraste and finds a new faith in the Maker, but is also politically savvy, simps for Vivienne, and drinks himself from the well of sorrows
Dwarven Warden and Elven Inquistor are, to me, the best and most logical options of race for those two games. 2/3 want almost nothing to do with Dwarves so 1 being a Dwarf Noble (already one of the best origins) is hard to go wrong with
Likewise, Elven Inquistor especially with a Solas Romance is kino if only because of Trespasser, the ending makes it all worth it to play a Dalish
Your Hawke seems perfectly reasonable considering 2 is a story of you working your way up from nothing so being on the seedier side of things checks out. Myself I play my Hawke a little more 'opportunistic rogue' type but IMO the best time to play a Mage is always 2 given how centric it is to the conflict. Mage Hawke has a lot of cool story beats you miss otherwise if you go Warrior or Rogue
The game gives you Bethany if you're not a mage to tie you into the conflict, and Carver to get a non-mage perspective if you're a mage yourself. I personally like Carver more as the sibling.
I got Carver to go wit the Templars and i'm sad that i didn't get a chance to kick his ass. I even picked the dialogue saying something like "i know you were looking forward to this"
I doubt the Dalish would dare approach Tevinter consider the shit they pulled with elves in the past, it's almost certainly a city elf from Tevinter itself, 50% of being a slave
I can't even remember what I did for DA1. I played DA2 and the game made me and Alistair (who I made king) a couple (I played as a woman in the save I ported over) because I had max relationship with everybody so... I didn't play Inquisition though I heard it was alright after patches and shit.
>summary mentions 'Red Templars' are in the show
those only appear AFTER 2 right?
So, Duncan actually fricking survived Ostagar? I seem to recall now you never do find his body like you do with Cailan
nvm this shot sort of kills the duncan theory, I agree the resemblance is uncanny but that is definitely a dorf
>summary mentions 'Red Templars' are in the show
those only appear AFTER 2 right?
So, Duncan actually fricking survived Ostagar? I seem to recall now you never do find his body like you do with Cailan
Besides the Qunari I genuinely don't see anything here that feels like Dragon Age. This could be called anything else and nothing would change. This looks like every generic fantasy thing.
It's really surprising to look back and think about how many things Dragon Age has that are specifically its own, even considering none of them branch very far into the ether.
Frick, should I play Origins again? Does it still hold up to modern standards? Never really played the others besides the intro to the second but dropped it quick
I played Origins as a kid and dont remember the story at all but I loved the shit out of it with at least 200 hours played, many busted nuts and a lasting development of racism to elves
It's still great. Should probably get the Gog copy though since the Steam version requires a bit of frickery with the executable over a 4gb memory leak or something.
I'm a DA fan and I don't know how to feel about it finally getting some attention. I thought the title drop last week would be our only big news for months. This looks fine, I guess. Probably won't be amazing.
I've got no hope since they are trying to build upon the corpse of Anthems engine for the game. Joplin was the best pitch for the fourth game years ago.
Expansion of the Mission Table systems as you lead an underground mission deep into enemy territories.
Wish we'd gotten that. Or at least a Legendary edition with updates and a bit more polish.
That logo makes it look like one of those trash mobile games
Dragon Age is a stupid title for this series because dragons are barely even featured after the first game. And the big important dragon in the first game wasn't even technically a dragon. A more accurate title would be "wizards ruin everything".
That's why they said the 'dragon' part is mostly a metaphor. But there were like 15 dragons in Inquisition.
It's not about literal dragons, it's about the age, the time-period the story takes place in
It was only named the Dragon Age because a dragon, thought extinct, suddenly re-emerged and wrought chaos right before it started which signaled an upcoming century of uncertainty and turmoil. Thus far, they've not been wrong
>"wizards ruin everything"
hey, don't be this magephobic you bigot.
>And the big important dragon in the first game wasn't even technically a dragon.
What? Of course it was, it was an old god.
>wizards ruin everything
Frick the chantry and frick you.
Cool. I really love the trend of high quality fantasy animation we're getting out of streaming lately.
>I really love the trend of high quality fantasy animation we're getting out of streaming lately.
>high quality
lol
lmao even
Remember when amination had soul?
>remember when animation had budgets?
FTFY. And it's not like Korra's animation and art quality didn't suffer a dip as the series went on. Book 4 looks so plastic and stiff compared to book 1.
Wtf I thought netflix animation was dead?
Their video game stuff has never slowed down, they're just looking to do quick and easy adaptations of already established media instead of focusing on producing original content (though they're still making it, the studio that did Klaus has a new movie coming out).
Original stuff is dead. Netflix is all aboard the branded spinoff train baby.
new dragon age in development, maybe its some sort of partnership with EA
>set in Tevinter
Oh frick, they're going to make this mandatory to fully understand what's going on in DA4.
>Just like the fricking novel
>Female City Elf Origin
>Sided with the Templars
>Destroyed the Anvil of the Void
>Crowned Harrowmont King
>Did not defile Andraste's Ashes
>Let Connor be killed by his mom rather than use blood magic
>Freed the werewolves from the curse
>Crowned Alistair as King with Anora as his queen
>Spared Loghain and let him join the Wardens
>Romanced Zevran
>Denied Morrigan's dark ritual
>Allowed Loghain to sacrifice himself to kill the Archdemon
Simple as
>Not crowning Bhelen and keeping the Anvil
Bhelen's a fricking weasel, I want to frick him over in almost every playthrough
The anvil can be good depending on circumstance but I had Shale in my party and I couldn't betray her
Better a competent weasel than Harrowmont, lmao
You are the reason for why Trump was ever elected
(You)
Harrowmont was a racist oligarch who curbstomped the poor as well as an isolationist and protectionist
who's the Trump allegory now?
Yeah I put Bhelen on the throne. Plus he actually gives a shit (or at least pretends to) about a dwarf Warden going missing and he makes sure they get a statue.
Even as a dwarf noble, I can't just let Orzammar fall into ruin under Harrowmont. It's pure bullshit that a dwarven warden can't just become the monarch when they establish that in dwarven history someone went from casteless to king and paragon in one move, but given the options I have to choose dwarven supremacy over dwarven decline and ruin.
Shale can just sit in party camp and you can persuade her afterwards to not be angry at you.
I care more about results and he gets shit done compared to Harrowmont who would just have the dwarves continue down their long slow death.
Bhelen is a ruthless c**t but he's a c**t with ambition that wants to actually improve Dwarven society. Harrowmont is "honorable" but utterly incompetent and becomes a bit of a despot.
At least he doesn't declare the Dwarf Noble Warden dead when he goes missing after Origins like Harrowmont does.
I'm a 'the ends do not justify the means' kind of guy. I do not doubt that Bhelen makes for a better ruler than Harrowmont and actually improves lives for even the casteless. But you have to take integrity into account and that is the last thing Bhelen has is integrity.
Harrowmont is a bad ruler but he's also ancient and will likely die within a decade to allow a better ruler to rise without a viper like Bhelen around stacking the cards in his favor. Bhelen will live for the better part of a century and based on his tactics he took to become King god only knows what fricked up shit he'll do to maintain his rule over the course of it. Things look good in the short-term with Bhelen but his character is compromised out of the gate and I don't doubt Orzammar will be bloodier for it in the real long-run for it with a morally bankrupt brat on the throne.
The years of suffering under Harrowmont until he croaks I imagine will be salvagable and then showing Bhelen's underhanded tactics will get you nowhere should help make sure his successor is someone with a sliver of honor in them to make things better.
The problem is Harrowmont is almost as shitty, if not shittier, except he doesn't get results with his actions. His particular brand of scheming is dedicated to upholding a status quo that has resulted in the very decline Orzammar has suffered from. At least Bhelen actually cares for the casteless and notes how much of an injustice their existence within their society is.
I'm not convinced Bhelen genuinely cares about the casteless as anything more than an oppressed minority he can readily claim as a resource to further his goals. He strikes me as the man who doesn't see them as victims but as easy to score followers he can add to his supporters just by showing them a shred of human decency. It's a right thing for wrong reasons kind of deal with him
So what benefit does he have making his concubine his wife when she's pregnant with his son?
Looking over the epilogues, i regret supporting Harrowmont
If you are going to crown Harrowmont, you at least have to be sure you DON'T let him get the Anvil
Harrowmont is bad but he is even worse with Golems since he uses them to destroy Dust Town utterly. Harrowmont without golems is just stagnation.
Harrowmont is worse than stagnation because the only thing he accomplishes is making Orzammar even more isolated and worse off.
>Crowning Harrowmont
Ye goofed
>male human noble warrior
>templar/berserk/spirit warrior
>dual-wield
>romance morrigan
>save connor
>save eamon
>save the mages
>save the ashes of andraste
>make peace with elves and werewolves
>bhelen on the throne
>destroy the anvil
>take grimoire peacefully
>retrieve stens sword
>avernus research with ethics
>harden alistair
>harden leliana
>have the threesome
>have the ritutal
>unite all of Ferelden
>personally kill howe
>personally kill vaughan
>personally kill marjolaine
>personally kill uldred
>personally kill jowan
>personally kill branka
>personally kill kolgrim
>personally kill the broodmother
>personally kill the archdemon
>alistair & anora on the throne
>friends with everyone
>redeem loghain
>side with the architect
>fight with the messenger
>save both amarathine and vigils keep
>hook finn and ariane up
>go into the portal with morrigan
>sit and watch entire credits to 30 Seconds to Mars This is War
>male human mage
>save my fellow mages
>make Bhelen king, keep the Anvil
>make peace between werewolves and elves
>have Isolde kill herself so I can enter the fade and save her kid
>tell the demon she can come back for the kid later, frick it to learn blood magic
>don’t defile the ashes
>don’t romance anyone, focus on my magical studies
>Make Alistair king cause he’s my bro
>have him do the dark Ritual, getting my bro laid
>ask for the Circle of mages be freed as my boon
>become his chancellor, the Merlin to his Arthur
Wizards, no sense of right or wrong.
I also did all the possible choices to frick over Eamon the most, frick that guy.
KING
>redeem loghain
>alistair & anora on the throne
It's been a while since I played it, but if I remember correctly you can't have both Loghain and Alistair right?
Only if you harden Alistair.
Hardened Alistair is butthurt, turns his back on fighting the archdemon like a petulant child, will never forgive you, but he WILL take the throne you prepared for him. Everyone has to look out for themselves.
It may just be the way the dialogue is worded to be slightly ambiguous as to seem appropriate for any situation, but I swear he remains pissy all the way into Awakening when he arrives after you clear Vigil's Keep
>hears all the Grey Wardens are dead
>"Well, at least the "Hero of Ferelden" survived... that's something." (read in the most passive aggressive manner possible and can even respond 'Don't sound so disappointed'
He finally seems to get over it in Dragon Age 2 though, when you are brought up in conversation under these conditions he sounds friendly and casual
Does anyone ever DEFILE the Ashes in their playthrough?
It occurs to me I've done almost every 'evil' choice in DA except this one. Maybe if all those dragon-worshiping tards don't attack you on site on entering their backwater I'd be more inclined but in general it just seems like such a particularly cruel thing to do is to defile someone's earthly remains, particularly that of the most significant person in Thedas history
Just to get the reaver class, but most people immediately reload a save before it anyway.
My Dalish Elf runthrough I did it. The concept of the build was 'Make Elvhen Great Again' through any means necessary and frick the humans at every opportunity (killed the werewolves and sided with Zathrian lol). Even more specifically, targeting the Chantry that led the Exalted Marches on us long ago and kicked us out of the Dales, my character seeing the Chantry as a bastardization of whatever believes the original Andraste held firm who betrayed the elves who followed her.
This involved siding with Mages against Templars (an arm of the Chantry), and defiling the ashes as to do anything to weaken their faith. Hardened Leliana beforehand though as not to lose her, but romanced Morrigan for obvious reasons of anti-Chantry mentality. Then I put Alistair on the throne as to maintain an ally once I received the southern reaches of Ferelden in my boon to restart our new glorious elven empire
>that pic
I think it’s hilarious how even in game of Inquisition there’s the literal “Chad ancient elf vs virgin modern elf” when you compare Solas body model to the player elf’s.
It's one of the most pointless evil choices I can think of in a Bioware game. Your only motivation to taint the ashes is to get back on the good side of a cult you've already slaughtered most of and in the process you lose access to a miracle cure.
Maybe if you're a hardcore dalish but Andraste wasn't the one who fricked elves over. It's just an unnecessarily edgy but Origins had a few of those.
It never seems really worth it unless you are literally out to be the edgiest evil guy who does every evil choice since it can cost you two companions, one being the dedicated healer you might need depending on the game difficulty.
I do miss when BioWare let you be evil, DAI’s “evil” dialogue choices were basically just being mildly rude to people, you couldn’t even kill any companions.
Dragon Age hasn't been good since the first game
it's actually kind of funny when you realize that Dragon Age has been Cinemaphile for some time now
I remember one of the devs (might've been Mike Darrah) said one day he'll talk about what went so fricking wrong with the IDW comics.
The answer is obvious: it's IDW lmao
It's also Cinemaphile
>old times
>badass warriors
>netflix show
>we have only women action in the 1 min teaser
Its fricking tiresom bros.
>implying the IDW comics were good
>implying there were only female characters in the trailer
>didn't see any dwarves
>didn't see any Qunari
Has me a little concerned since they are the best races. But at least I played Dragon Age which is more than I can say for League of Legends or Castlevania so it'll be fun to finally be "the guy who played the games" for once.
Did anybody watch the anime film or Felicia Day's web series?
There's a qunari chick and a dwarven man with the group.
>Did anybody watch the anime film or Felicia Day's web series?
I watched the movie and it was just ok, I guess. Couldn't bring myself to watch Felicia Day's thing though it just looked too bad.
>But at least I played Dragon Age which is more than I can say for League of Legends or Castlevania so it'll be fun to finally be "the guy who played the games" for once.
Yeah it's weird. I doubt this will be popular or even really good but I thought Mass Effect would get the Netflix series before Dragn Age would, if ever.
>dragon age
Who cares? Literally only the first game is good.
Hope and fears for DA4?
I'll dump some concept art
I'm afraid they're going to fall into the old Bioware habit of trying to go for something way out of their league in terms of gameplay and insist on building the game around that and refusing to drop it when it becomes obvious it's not going to work and as a result the rest of the game suffers for it. No I'm not afraid of gay or trans characters, it's Dragon Age, I know what I'm playing.
I liked the elf girl in Inquisition. She was fun. I'd rather play a dude and break down the stoic woman's barriers over her love of trashcan romance novels. But the elf was fun.
So how long til they get accused of grooming or harassment or whatever
>hopes
cut the MMO bloat
well designed dungeons like Redcliffe in DAO
quests like The Landsmeet and Wicked Eyes and Wicked Hearts.
female dwarven romance option
female qunari romance option
you get to see the divine you picked in person
>fears
they will STILL try to push mage rights even though you're in fricking Tevinter
Vivienne as Divine will be the new King Harrowmont and Leliana will be the new Bhelen
>they will STILL try to push mage rights even though you're in fricking Tevinter
They're definitely doing this. The whole Mage/Templar conflict always had a minor subtext of "oppressed minorities vs brutal cops". Now consider how the narrative has changed since 2014 on that issue. Bioware won't be able to stop themselves.
Nah the issue of mages vs templars is effectively over, the Circles are weakened or just don't exist anymore in the south. But in the north the Chantry has considerably less influence.
>Tevinter: don't need to explain that one
>Nevarra: necromancy is the backbone of their culture
>Rivain: after Tevinter the Chantry has the weakest presence there, the annulment of their Circle before DAI is definitely going to have further weakened it
Anderfels is pretty devout but it's also huge and sparse and also home to the Warden who don't give a shit. The series is at least for now done with the "should mages be free" question because the setting has moved to places where that's not really a question.
Yeah, sure buddy, but that was before George Floyd
I think you have to be a certain kind of stupid jackass if you think Bioware is going to reference or handle an in-world issue that has no real world equivalent in relation to George Floyd.
And I think there might be a reason this person was made to be the game director
While I doubt they'll make a direct reference they are, absolutely, going to triple down on the 100% anti-templar stance in the modern political climate.
The BEST you could hope for would be that they see mages as guns, so they would actually be forced to pit GUNS v. COPS and struggle enough politically that they accidentally create a nuanced conflict. But thats very unlikely.
idk there's a story in tevinter nights about how the templar order in tevinter basically can't do anything to investigate a crime (they're more like detectives) because it leads to an influential and rich mage family. they're definitely still trying to 'both sides' it even if the setting is leaning towards a resolution that at bare minimum doesn't involve children being taken from their families and locked in towers where they're raised by people who actively hate them.
I have no hope for it. Dragon Age has one (1) good game and Bioware hasn't made a good game in a decade
None
This "woman" became Game Director for the first time in February this year.
Before that, I shit you not, this was what she worked on
Here's your Dragon Age GAME DIRECTOR
ok
>Sims
Seems about right for Bioware nowadays.
She should add SO SUCK MY DICK to the end of that Sims Mobile blurb. It brings the whole timeline together.
I don't have any hopes, just fears.
>the ending has you "fix" the fade and make it so it only has benign spirits
>solas solos the remaining two archdemons to establish his power level after absorbing flemeth
>we go to seheron, where the qunari are even further ruined
>tevinter will be kinda lame after three games of buildup
>gameplay that desperately wants to be an action game but refuses to give up the RPG elements, resulting in a mess that does neither particularly well
>darkspawn companion
>side quests that only make sense if you watch the netflix show
>darkspawn companion
only if it's the Architect
What if it's one of the Disciples?
My fear is they're gonna completely get rid of the RTWP combat. Inquisition was their attempt at moving away from it and it was crap.
They attempted to move away from it in DA2. Remember that great dev line: "Press a button and something awesome happens". Just how RTWP does that sound to you?
>Dragon Age
>Logo that was totally designed to give mobile kid shit vibes
I have no hope.
What sort of hope can you have when BioWare is just a walking corpse now? Not to mention Origins was the only good game in the damn series.
>Hope and fears for DA4?
A woke writter should be the least of your worries for this show Disney is looking to buy EA and their IPs including Dragon Age.... that is the real worry,,,,
>Netflix shows on Disney Plus
can't wait to see the bisexual orgy scene with Zevran, Leliana, Isabella, and the Warden
They had the sex scenes of Jessica Jones uncensored at Disney+ so this won't be too surprising
Dragon Age has become increasingly pozzed with every entry, can't say I was too excited to begin with but we'll. Also all these people leaving Bioware during development doesn't seem like a good sign
I’m kind of sickeningly curious to see how much more they can go, like I’m fully expecting a trans companion who only reveals it like midway through their romance and the game gives no option to break it off.
Better than a real woman working on the game I guess.
You know what that's fair
>Dragon Age 2
>Ass Effect 3's ending
>Warhammer Online canceled
>Dragon Age Inquisition
>Shadow Realms canceled
>Ass Effect Andromeda
>Anthem
How the frick is Bioware not shuttered and sold by now? How the frick are they getting a cartoon series?
I liked Inquisition. The main problem is the bloat makes it have zero replay value.
It's rather MMOish, it suffers from being the opposite of DA2 where it had too little space to see and you can feel that they overcorrected for it.
Inquisition didn't flop and isn't considered a failure by Bioware or EA.
>it was a weak year for video games
Yeah and it was still considered the best of the weakest.
>Warhammer Online
>Bioware
It was EA Mythic.
Bioware continuing to fail upwards I see.
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, BIOWARE.
JUST LET ME BE AN EVIL MAGE RISING THROUGH THE RANKS OF THE TEVINTER HIERACHY!
That's all I ask.
I hope the writing is better than that same copy-pasta DC & Marvel MANFACES I've seen since 2012. Do these idiots not know how to draw a face?
>already fanart but it's of this guy and not the qunari or elf chick
lol
Warden was a hard as stone Dwarf Noble who was political adept and ruthless. Did everything to combat the darkspawn and ended up becoming a living god to the dwarves of Orzammar, even helping his backstabbing brother keep the ruling power within the family.
Hawke was a woman with nothing who resorted to gaining power to Kirkwall underground as a smuggler and later assassin. Her only redeeming quality was the loyality she had for friends and family, in the end her mother's murder by a mage turned her sour on magic and she sided with the templars, although she saved Bethany from the circle and when demanded to kill her own sister turned on Meredith.
The Inquisitor was an elf who didn't fit into human mythology and denied being the savior of her racial enemies until, slowly, she embraced being a champion for all peoples and a symbol of hope. Solas broke her heart.
Rate my protagonists.
>Warden
based
>Hawke
as good as you can make Hawke I guess
>Inquisitor
for me it's the tal'vashoth mage who starts to really believe he is the herald of Andraste and finds a new faith in the Maker, but is also politically savvy, simps for Vivienne, and drinks himself from the well of sorrows
Dwarven Warden and Elven Inquistor are, to me, the best and most logical options of race for those two games. 2/3 want almost nothing to do with Dwarves so 1 being a Dwarf Noble (already one of the best origins) is hard to go wrong with
Likewise, Elven Inquistor especially with a Solas Romance is kino if only because of Trespasser, the ending makes it all worth it to play a Dalish
Your Hawke seems perfectly reasonable considering 2 is a story of you working your way up from nothing so being on the seedier side of things checks out. Myself I play my Hawke a little more 'opportunistic rogue' type but IMO the best time to play a Mage is always 2 given how centric it is to the conflict. Mage Hawke has a lot of cool story beats you miss otherwise if you go Warrior or Rogue
The game gives you Bethany if you're not a mage to tie you into the conflict, and Carver to get a non-mage perspective if you're a mage yourself. I personally like Carver more as the sibling.
I got Carver to go wit the Templars and i'm sad that i didn't get a chance to kick his ass. I even picked the dialogue saying something like "i know you were looking forward to this"
>le generic speedy rogue with a dagger
also art style looks garbage. is this their attempt at aping anime?
It's their SECOND attempt.
The studio is Red Dog Culture House, Bioware's not animating this themselves.
>The name "Thedas" is an acronym. It stands for "THE" "D"ragon "A"ge "S"etting
>Qunari mage
Don't those have their mouths sewed shut and forced to wear cagey armor?
tal'vashoth are outcasts that don't follow the qun
qun is a religion, not a race
No if she's tal'vashoth and was never born into the qun
I'm guessing the elf is a city elf and not a Dalish
That's not a dalish tattoo so yeah.
I doubt the Dalish would dare approach Tevinter consider the shit they pulled with elves in the past, it's almost certainly a city elf from Tevinter itself, 50% of being a slave
the female characters look really anime but the male characters resemble the typical western design
tf?!
It's because they're old and she's young
I can't even remember what I did for DA1. I played DA2 and the game made me and Alistair (who I made king) a couple (I played as a woman in the save I ported over) because I had max relationship with everybody so... I didn't play Inquisition though I heard it was alright after patches and shit.
DUNCAN IS BACK
*Bows Down*
Is this a prequel then or are they actually trying to sell he lived through Ostagar and just never told anyone?
that's a dwarf
It's definitely Duncan, you can see it in the resemblance
Duncan's pretty short
Yeah, they dunked him.
nvm this shot sort of kills the duncan theory, I agree the resemblance is uncanny but that is definitely a dorf
He just lost his shins at Ostagar killin' fitty darkspawn
>summary mentions 'Red Templars' are in the show
those only appear AFTER 2 right?
So, Duncan actually fricking survived Ostagar? I seem to recall now you never do find his body like you do with Cailan
They should make a series about Isabela getting Qun'd
Besides the Qunari I genuinely don't see anything here that feels like Dragon Age. This could be called anything else and nothing would change. This looks like every generic fantasy thing.
It's really surprising to look back and think about how many things Dragon Age has that are specifically its own, even considering none of them branch very far into the ether.
That is the problem with medieval fantasy period.
Will it be better than the Dragon's Dogma cartoon?
Take bets who will be blackwashed.
Frick, should I play Origins again? Does it still hold up to modern standards? Never really played the others besides the intro to the second but dropped it quick
I played Origins as a kid and dont remember the story at all but I loved the shit out of it with at least 200 hours played, many busted nuts and a lasting development of racism to elves
>Frick, should I play Origins again?
I don't care.
It's still great. Should probably get the Gog copy though since the Steam version requires a bit of frickery with the executable over a 4gb memory leak or something.
I'll never get human noble, Morrigan and their autistic old god baby pre inquisition adventures. Feels bad
frick netlix
Bioware is a zombie wearing the skinsuit of a long-dead hero. Netflix is trash.
Won't even hatewatch.