>DUDE IF YOU QUIT DRINKING IT'S JUST AS BAD AS BEING ADDICTED TO IT BECAUSE IT STILL TECHNICALLY CONTROLS YOU LMAO LOOK HOW SMART I AM BY THINKING BOTH SIDES ARE STUPID AMIRITE?
trey parker and matt stone are the biggest morons in the entertainment business
>manbearpig isn't real
>20 season later
>he's totally real guys!
woah.... it's almost like two college dropouts who made a shitty internet web series and were lucky to be picked up by comedy network aren't the absolute authorities on social issues or politics woah.....
Didn't they canonically make everything real with those "Imaginationland" episodes?
> canonically
ARE YOU THE LORE MASTER ON ALL THINGS SOUTHPARK?
the whole joke of the episode is just alcoholics acting like they have a disease, where are you getting this from?
you're either moronic or need to rewatch the ending again
they love themselves so much, its fricking sickening kek
>if you avoid practice gun safety you're obsessed with shooting yourself
weird cope
yes, if you avoid even safe gun handling practices, because you're afraid of shooting yourself, you're obsessed with shooting yourself.
being afraid of something is not being obsessed with it
being afraid to even touch a gun, or allow others to touch a gun, because of the slight possibility of shooting yourself is obsession.
no that's called a phobia
moron
got a version that isn't a moron pointing his phone at a tv?
This is completely correct though. Nick mullen just proved the point this year when he relapsed and thought he could monitor is drinking but then realized he was having to go to 2 different liquor stores in a day so the cashier didnt recognize him. Alcohol controls him so he needs to completely abstain.
There is even a part where Randy is saying excuse me, pardon me, I have a disease to people with cancer.
They weren't saying it is equally as bad, they were highlighting the importance of understanding that you need to have discipline and focus to avoid extremes. Never having alcohol ever because you cannot have it ever is total baby shit if you aren't like mentally moronic or schizo or something, but having it anymore than you'd need to to enjoy yourself when it's nessicary is also baby shit
oops
*necessary
Being alcoholic MEANS you can't have any alcohol at all, if I have one drink I'm having ten drinks, I immediately lose control. That episode of Father Ted with the alcoholic TV presenter was honestly pretty accurate
>if I have one drink I'm having ten drinks, I immediately lose control.
Why? What thoughts and/or physical sensations do you experience that lead to you going from a nice cold lager on a hot day to drowning yourself in vodka?
Tomorrow's responsibilities
Amen. Keep kicking that can down the road as far as you fricking can.
Not him but
>Plan to have a beer
>Lowering of inhibitions and feeling good
>hmmm why not another
>Lowering of inhibitions and feeling good
>hmmm why not another
>???????
>Profit
But I experience that same process but I happily stop at 2 or 3 beers. What's the difference?
Brain chemistry.
How about you act like a man and exercise some self control?
woah why didn't I think of that.
because the alcohol has killed all your brain cells?
The whole point of booze is to lower self control, otherwise half of us wouldn't even been born dumbass
this isnt even true and is some kind of psyop 100%
i have never lost control while drinking and i have had sessions were i woke up not remembering shit
the point of drinking isnt to lose control and act like a Black person or a woman, its to get drunk
being drunk makes things funnier, makes music sound better, etc
i dont need to piss on a wall or crawl on the ground to the next drink, cleaning the floorboards with my tongue the whole way while tapping bohemian rhapsody with my balls on the floor
OP is coping because a cartoon from decades ago called out his homosexual behaviour
I said lower not lose homosexual, nice blog
lmaoing @ your life
>this isnt even true and is some kind of psyop 100%
You’re just not predisposed to acting badly on alcohol. I’m the same way, the worst decision I make while drinking is to continue drinking. Otherwise I just sit calmly and have a nice time, as I did for a decade. I’ve seen countless other people however go absolutely moronic while drinking, and those kinds of people make up a vast majority of the population.
>I’ve seen countless other people however go absolutely moronic while drinking, and those kinds of people make up a vast majority of the population.
exactly, theyre called morons, it is known that even without alcohol 99% of people are really moronic, so them smashing cars and shit when they get drunk isnt 'le alcohol talking teehee' its just their own moronation getting dialed to 11
>they get drunk isnt 'le alcohol talking teehee' its just their own moronation getting dialed to 11
Yes, it's almost like it lowers their self control
You are trying to explain colors to a blind person
how about I slap your shit?
Is it like when you open a packet of Doritos only planning to have a few, but you end up eating all but a couple and just say "frick it" and tip the rest into your mouth?
That's just a lack of basic self-control. It's different with drugs, and yes, alcohol is a drug
Why is it a lack of self control with food but with drugs it's WAHHH MY BRAIN CHEMISTRY?
Try heroin and you'll find out
I'm not a moron so why would I ever try something that everybody knows is extremely dangerous and addictive?
>ADDICTION ISNT REAL HAVE SELF CONTROL homosexual AND JUST HAVE A COUPLE DRINKS?!
>then try heroin
>WHY WOULD I EVER ENGAGE IN AN ACTIVITY THAT WOULD TRIGGER AN ADDICTION homosexual?!
It’s like the mind of a child haha
Former heroin addict checking in. Heroin is great and based in every possible way. Everyone should do it all the time.
>IV only though, and mixed with methamphetamine
Because the drugs function by lowering your inhibitions and clouding your judgement which leads the user to dose more and more, you fricking idiot
>junkie turning sour when reminded that he is the problem, not his scapegoat
Not a surprise, but still sad.
Anon you're bullying a guy that, in your mind, has a drinking problem. Did it make you feel better?
>call someone a fricking idiot
>they call you what you are, a junkie
>OH MY GOD STOP BULLYING ME
Seeing that you're a hysterical woman, did your drinking start with wine?
I'm not him. I'm asking you if you feel good being mean to strangers. Honest question.
You know why he does it. His life is shit and talking down to people on an anonymous goat herding forum makes him feel a little bit of control
Yes, I do understand that. I didn't want to be an butthole though. I've been that bitter c**t before.
You literally called him a fricking idiot and now you're playing the victim because he called you a junkie. You're a pathetic drunk.
I'm two yous there. The middle one isn't me and I didn't call anyone a fricking idiot. I appreciate the attempt, detective.
have a nice day tonight
Whoa, harsh anon. I hope you feel better soon. I'll pray for your well-being and happiness, tonight.
is this funny? did you laugh when you wrote it? or does it just make you feel strong?
I quite weed for a year after 10 years of daily use, used one time and wound up smoking for 6 fricking months before stopping again.
Weed is tricky in that it's so safe it's easy to trick yourself into thinking your not addicted.
that means you are moronic, nothing more
weed especially lowers INT and nothing more, as previously mentioned, this 'lmao im doing drugs im so cuhrazy my inhibitions are lowered im gonna see if crazy charlie is still taking blowjobs for some free crack lmaooo' is what moronic losers who will die unremembered cope with like this guy
you have to be 18 to post here kid
>t. cannot smoke a joint or drink a beer without losing the entire day/week/month/year
ironic post
and you have clearly not experienced much in life. Again, you need to be 18 to post here kiddo
once again its literally underage drinkers/smokers that become lifelong addicts and have to cope anonymously on the internet about it
the newbie cutoff was more than 15 years ago, sorry billy but you will always stand out here
you cant lower what isnt there to begin with moron
i can be blackout drunk and drive home from the next town over
i am in command of my body and my mind and im not some spastic who gets drunk to fill a hole in their life or to be an interesting person
it has already been said that it is clear that the goal FROM THE START BEFORE EVEN DRINKING for most people is that they are anticipating going crazy and acting like a homosexual
so thats not 'losing self control' they're literally aiming to act like that in the first place
reported for underage posting
>announcing reports
gg newhomosexual
It’s sort of interesting how different drugs work.
They hit different activation centers in your brain, the drugs that you want to use every few days vs the drugs you need one a day map to your food and sex needs.
Research does suggest that food addicts have similar brain function abnormalities to drug addicts, but just as a drug addict can become sober, an obese person can get control. There’s also varying degrees to addiction and it’s not far fetched to say that drugs induce a vastly more powerful sensation than food, literally altering the brain’s chemistry.
Yea pretty much me
Addiction is when you can't stop even if you want to. And starting again even after a couple years, you don't go back to when you first started doing the drug, you go back to when you stopped. And since you've abstained for a while, your body revels in it and many times people kill themselves by overdoing it even after years of sobriety. Addiction isn't logical, and normal people who don't have an addiction can't grasp that. I'm an alcoholic and I've also seen other addicts die after going back off the wagon, and not just alcohol but heavy shit.
Fun fact, alcohol withdrawal can kill you. And heroin withdrawal won't kill you, but from the symptoms I hear, you'd wish it did. The best advice is if you don't understand addiction, you're doing alright. If you can understand addicts, then sadly you're fricked.
My father who died of cirrhosis would choose to maintain his addiction instead of providing for his family's needs. I couldn't understand that until I got farther along in my addiction and I chose to spend my final $10 on alcohol rather than ramen, and I wouldn't change a thing. Because addiction doesn't care about logic, or emotion. If you told me I'd go to jail or even that you'd shoot me if I had another drink, I'd still drink. That's what addiction is. You need your fix no matter what.
>They hated him because he spoke the truth
kawaii emaciated junkie
It really does feel like a switch is flipped in your brain and you just get this intense phenomena of craving.
for me it was simple escapism. finish a pbr? pop open another let's keep the good times rolling. repeat until passed out on bed, wake up drunk, feel terrible.
Escaping from what?
Nta but it numbs emotions. If you're an emotional guy who has a lot of issues in his life, being drunk feels like a heavenly escape. And that makes it very appealing for every day use
my shitty life living in a shitty motel for 6+ months. that's far behind me now and I'm truly happy with life. wouldn't trade my harsh experiences for anything.
> I immediately lose control.
Like he said, baby shit.
You just have to learn some self control. I used to be addicted to heroin and once I quit I can do it once every year or so and not need more. I'm still working on my alcohol problems but I only drink once every month or 2 albeit I usually get hammered.
Except not everyone is capable of doing that, what you're engaging in is solipsism.
How? You could say that for doing anything that gives you pleasure.
>Dude, I do heroin like once a year it's not even that big of a deal these alcoholics need to learn self-control
You really have no idea, do you
And I admitted I'm still working on my alcoholism too? That's actually what you need to do what would you have me say? Sure you can quit entirely it's up to you but it's possible to still enjoy alcohol every once in a while. You just sound jaded.
it's easy to not drink booze when you're leading a good life.
Some people are genetically presdisposed to addiction. And certain substances are physically addictive, like alcohol, benzos, opioids.
You think former heroin addicts refuse to take painkillers at the hospital under any circumstance because it's fun? If they do it once, it's over for them. Same thing with alcoholics. It has to be all or nothing
Wow Islamaphobic much?
If you describe addiction as "baby shit" you need to grow up and leave your parent's basement.
Objectively the right answer, I don't understand how moronic you have to be to not get South Park when it literally spells it out for you in every episode
>I don't understand how moronic you have to be to not get
You literally can’t have alcohol if you’re an alcoholic, you WILL relapse. It’s not always an immediate thing either, you can have a drink and then go months without another one, so you decide to have one because you can “control it” now. Then you’re having a drink every other week, then every other day, and then you’re back in the full throws of your addiction again.
>be stupid
>become an alcoholic
>be stupid
>take life advice from a billboard and go completely cold turkey
>be stupid
>get tempted into having a drink again thanks to just seeing some alcohol or people drinking alcohol
>be stupid
>be unable to simply drink some alcohol and repeat from step 1
conclusion: you are really stupid
If an alcoholic is too stupid to stop drinking then why would you encourage them to try drinking responsibly? They’re too stupid to do that.
the encouragement is to stop being fricking moronic SO THAT you can have a few drinks like a normal person
>Telling a moron to stop being moronic
Brilliant. How haven’t we figured this out yet? We must be moronic.
a moron to stop being moronic
thats what school is, which you would know if they had any in your country black Black person
>memory problems and stutters
you were DEFINITELY moronic before you had any alcohol
>Go to school or get an education and you’ll stop being addicted
Hilarious. The fact you thought this was a good point is even more hilarious.
thats literally the correct answer though LOL what a stupid homosexual
you've learned what alcohol is and what alcohol does, you know what addiction is and what it does, so you should know by now if you arent mega autistic that you should try to stop being addicted
durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
You’re having a mental breakdown. Addicts shouldn’t try to drink moderately.
>addicts should try to drink moderately
by all means continue to stay moronic and therefor addicted and therefor die sooner, its a slow method of suicide but i am glad that someone is actually going to kill themselves after being told to on Cinemaphile, couldnt have happened to a more deserving homosexual
Did you just have a stroke? Are you illiterate?
>directly quote your own post
>accuse me of being illiterate
the jokes write themselves, learn to put the bottle down and you could detect who wrote what
You quoted the exact opposite of my post. Stop this anon, you’re better than this.
hes underage and moronic
You sound like a very happy and well-rounded person who definitely has a lot of friends
>t. his only friend is jack daniel
bonus points for the alcoholics getting btfo on so many fronts that they have all simultaneously given up any kind of arguments and have resorted to directly crying at anons to stop making fun of them
People who are genuinely autistic don't understand that other peoples minds don't function exactly the way theirs does. He gernuinely thinks that his experience with alcohol and drugs is identical for every other person. Don't even bother arguing
>peoples brains dont function the same autist!
>uhhh but peoples brains function the same when it comes to alcohol i NEED it!!!
congratulations on the most ironic post of the thread
are you high on something or dyslexic? he's saying the opposite, you spastic
>just add +25 to your IQ stat, bro
Nice solution, brainiac
The worst part is what it does to your personal life and relationships, nobody wants to be around alcoholics for very long except other alcoholics
>circular logic: the post
Cinemaphile seems to get southpark completely ass backwards sometimes in search of something to outrage about, presumably twitter crossposters
i wish i could remember which episode it was but i remember someone crying about how its trying to virtue signal about blacks and shove equality down our throats etc etc, when stans ending monologue was literally akin to 'the thing i have to learn is that, deep down, we are just from two different universes, and so for you its completely natural to get angry and start smashing things around you'
they hear the joke and just focus on who the joke is about and then forget its a joke, exactly the same people who cry about someone like ricky gervais ''justifying rape'' by making a joke that occurs during a fictional rape scenario
Whats the word for an outlook on a subject of which is completely factual in every way and anyone whom disagrees is wrong and probably a bigger?
Dare I say; b a s e d ?
You're not funny homosexual
I wasn’t even trying to be funny at all. I’m trying to convey the point that that anon is speaking objective truth.
It is not objectively true. The objective truth is that addiction is real it's physiological.
Yes it is. But self discipline is deciding factor here. As with will power and; I hate to say it but faith in God. Otherwise I would still be a heroin addict along side with the people that will go to their grave with a needle in their arm. Maybe not tomorrow or next year. Maybe 10 if they catch a good prison sentence. But there are people out there that will be consumed by any of it. Alcohol, sexual self destruction. ETC
But why is it that, others are not bound to the same fate? There is a quantifiable reason, and I’ve stated them.
Gay
>As with will power and; I hate to say it but faith in God
No, I agree. Addiction is spiritual malady as well as physical.
I’m glad you understand that. I’m of the opinion that it is a majority spiritual malady. The physical issues are secondary.
Woah dude chill, it's not that deep. Why you so mad bro?
I have seen completely put together and disciplined people with high paying jobs lose all their shit because of alcohol.
Yeah. Some people will try cocaine once and immediately sell their car and start sucking dicks to get it. Others like me do it once or twice a month when I go out and it has never been a probably. Nor will I ever be. With alcohol the ease of access and social comfortability with it can often be a vehicle for severe addiction when people start using it to cope with trauma. And how can you blame them?
I’d start hitting the bottle real hard too if I were going through a divorce with a woman I still love or something. And I expect any other man to do the same. But there has got to be a point where you pull yourself together.
>Nor will I ever be
Anon I...
I what? Cocaine is a soft drug along with alcohol and cannabis if you are into that. I’ve seen people fricking degrade to shells of their potential using marijuana as well.
I know probably 15 people that have severe cocaine addictions as well. That does not mean I’m bound to the same fate.
>Cocaine is a soft drug
It is most definitely not. I am addicted to weed but I would never suck a dick for a hit nor have I ever heard of anyone else who has. People do that regularly for Coke.
I’ve never sucked sick for any drug. But I’ve had two women suck my dick at the same time for 20 dollars worth of shitty weed. So? Where is the blame placed? Where can addictions and it’s nuance be quantifiable as something to be definitively measured?
Its measurable by the fact that NOBODY puts weed and alcohol into the same catagory as coke.
If you have lived the life I have and curated the same wisdom I have. You would understand what I’m trying to tell you.
Cocaine gives a jolt of energy for 30ish minutes, and within 70 minutes you are back at baseline.
As opposed to something like meth which is a problem.
Cocaine can be used responsibly as with cannabis and alcohol. It’s up to the soul and the man it’s residing in to do it.
>imagine selling your car and sucking dicks for 45 minutes on 2.5x coffe
while coke definitely isnt the same category as weed and alcohol, its really not that addictive alone, and thats specifically why there is an endemic of harmful substances laced in cocaine, they TRY and add addictive shit to it
by itself as anon describes, its basically just an instant energy drink, honestly really boring in my experience
> But I’ve had two women suck my dick at the same time for 20 dollars worth of shitty weed
Man I miss poor people. I ment a few in the area where I went back to college as an adult, good times.
But now I am back in my old area, and there aren’t really any poors of the same type in this area. And no, buying a hooker isn’t nearly the same thing as being a candy man for someone you have a familiarity with. Also much more expensive
Coke is about equally as addictive as alcohol. But I wouldn't call either of them soft drugs. They're above actual soft drugs like weed, and below hard drugs like meth and heroin
Just grind the meth into a powder and it becomes soft too.
Coke is crack. Both are hard drugs.
Crack is much more addictive than pure coke is. Comparing it to coke is like comparing meth to amphetamines. Two different worlds
or a better analogy for drugbros; if cocaine is beer, crack is vodka
>Crack is much more addictive than pure coke is
its not, they are literally the same
It's not. Crack provides a high that is much, much more intense than coke. And that extreme high is what is so appealing to addicts
Crack is a completely different experience to intranasal cocaine. As with IV cocaine.
The onset through those two routes is so strong and so powerful. It quite literally separates your consciousness from where it is supposed to be. And I’m quite sure that time spent there by a hurting drug addict is why they do it.
Despite being the same molecule, when done through different routes, they might as well be completely alien from one another
Either underage or a complete idiot.
FRICK YOU
You don’t know shit about addiction. You would have nightmares about the horrible shit I had to do before turning myself over to Jesus Christ. I once drank a bottle of vodka that was first poured into a man’s butthole before squirting it into my glass. That’s how desperate I was for a drink. Can you even process that???
>Never having alcohol ever because you cannot have it ever is total baby shit
You have a problem son
I haven't seen this episode in years, but I dont think that was the point
the point of this episode is that calling alcoholism a ‘disease’ just to absolve yourself of personality responsibility is moronic. the point of this post was to show that OP is moronic
It's because aa is a cult so they need to keep people weak and sheepish. Meanwhile former alcoholic willpower Chads such as myself can have a beer anytime. But of course this is a tougher path and requires a certain level of integrity.
Randy wasn’t an alcoholic he just pretended to be to get sympathy for drunk driving
Randy didn't want sympathy they convinced him it was out of his hands
terrible example
What's it like having southpark jokes going over your head?
all part of living in the third world
I'm stopped drinking and I stopped attending AA because of some of the weird shit they would say. I still think it's a good program for those wanting to quit. One of the things I hated is when they would call their addiction a disease. It would have to be the first "disease" that can be cured by locking someone in a room.
> be the first "disease" that can be cured by locking someone in a roo
Amateur thought.
Getting “dried out” has nothing to do with treating the underlying impulses.
This is one of the biggest myths in the world in midwit circles.
Any decent treatment center in the world can get you “dry” if that was all that was needed to treat addiction it would be the simplest thing in the world to cure addicts
the willpower to stop requires you to not be an addict in the first place
Before I finally got sober this was my cope. For at least one person, (me), I used this exact logic that I learned from this show to harm myself
>DUDE IF YOU QUIT DRINKING IT'S JUST AS BAD AS BEING ADDICTED TO IT BECAUSE IT STILL TECHNICALLY CONTROLS YOU
it's not "as bad" but this is a cogent point. you're not free of an addiction if you still obsess over it
AA is a cult
Usually cults force you to stay and I've been to some AA meetings where I wish some people would just fricking leave.
Right but realistically you're never going to free of your demons so your practical choice is between teetotal or blotto
But at least you're no longer nuking your liver, kidneys, brain and CNS
That wasn't entirely the point
i went to an aa meeting to support a buddy and it they were all losers
what did you expect
it wasn't just there sob stories one guy was on his phone the whole time with it chiming and when someone told him to put it on silent he said he didn't know how and they squabbled like children
>someone was being rude with their cell phone
>someone else made a comment
>an argument ensued
This is unusual to you? This is your big story? If you’re setting this as your bar to paint a room full of people losers you’ve lived a pretty sheltered life tbh.
The point is that people who revolve their entire lives around not drinking are just as controlled by alcohol as people who revolve their lives around drinking. And it's also cringe to make being a recovering alcoholic into your entire personality.
>if you avoid poison, it controls you just as much as if you were addicted to said poison
you are not as smart as you think you are
You can avoid alcohol without making avoiding alcohol your entire personality and life.
GeeZ that was depressing
dbdr is great
just absolute shit family situation, work situation, economy situation, and looks situation
yet he keeps it all together through unrepentant cynicism
I'm in AA reluctantly and the people who it works for go to like three meetings a day, it unironically does control their life
So does booze.
I'd rather go to three meetings a day than wake up in a detox center again.
You don't mean that. You got at least two more in you.
still better than the garbage they put out now
Unironically Family Guy did this better. That episode legit was a huge part of cutting down my drinking problem by going sober for a bit before slowly reintegrating alcohol and letting myself have a beer or two every once in a while
What episode anon?
As someone that struggled with alcoholism for almost a decade I think that episode was extremely poignant. It actually helped me learn to control my drinking.
The act of quitting alcohol isn't important. It's actually extremely unhealthy, and any doctor in the world would tell you that quitting booze cold turkey is extremely dangerous. The point of this episode is to show that the most important part of reining in your drinking is consistency and control. Any alcoholic can quit drinking booze for five days, but learning to maintain willpower and control over your desires is where it really counts.
Yeah, they was a dumb episode, dr drew calling it a “ disease” does get a little tiresome though, even if he correct in the way he means it, it’s not the way most people mean the word.
You might not know this but dr drew is very well know in a a certain circle in Hollywood, and the entire epicode was obviously based around Dr Drew’s meme of “it’s a disease “ which requires treatment and is a disease of relapse”
When Physicians started to study alcoholism more closely in the 20th century described it more as an "allergy" than disease. I think that sums it up a little better.
South Park is only funny for -1σ midwits
It’s an incredibly irresponsible episode that probably convinced many alcoholics that they can manage, the vast majority of which absolutely can’t.
>Been sober for almost a year
>Miss the booze but glad to be of sound mind and health
>Catch up with coworker after weekend
>Him: "Yeah, I spent over $50 on drinks for a girl before she told me she was waiting for her boyfriend."
Not for nothing - alcoholics have the best stories."
Abstinence is its own kind of excess, anon.
>trey parker and matt stone are the biggest morons
biggest midwits
Is this the anti-druk thread?
Drinkoids are pathetic. Hurr durr sugar juice make me happy 😀 everyone needs to drink so I can feel better about it
>everyone needs to drink so I can feel better about it
Sounds like you're projecting.
?
You're not convincing anyone, underage
Bro if you avoid snorting a pinch of fent every other week for your whole life, you're basically in the thrall of fent. My brain is enormous.
ITT drunkoids pretend their crutch is good and totally not harmful while imagining anyone who doesn't think or live like them must be a weak baby
you must not have read much of the thread
Matt and Trey used to make irreverent jokes that made fun of hypocrites or self righteous people.
The WORST thing to happen to them was when someone pointed out South Park is an issues show and they gave so many tired takes on the world. The most egregious was when they would talk about something well past the fad, like when they did the Internet Memes episode.
Similarly, when fans decided South Park was an issue show, they ruined it by getting mad that the show didn't conform to their political views or wasn't extreme enough or didn't make proper sense to them. Instead of seeing jokes people just wanted point scoring for their team.
I remember being on here for the Lorde episodes when half the people were saying it was pro-Trans because people accepted Randy even if it was a bit silly. While others said it was obviously not. When the joke literally was, Randy was Lorde. People don't like jokes anymore.
I have been shitting blood literally every day and I'm too scared to go visit a doctor. I feel like it's because of how much I drink.
I had diarrhea for four years straight cause of drinking.
homie go to a doctor, it’s probably a broken blood vessel in your ass. YOURE SHITTING INTO YOUR OWN ASS WOUND
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I've been drinking heavily for like ten years, surely it's too late for me
I don’t think you understand how slow and painful a death you could have, that could easily be fixed by going to a FRICKING DOCTOR
Nah, there's still hope
Go to your doctor before it's too late, bro. Alcohol nukes several of your organs and dying from it is not a pleasant way to go. It involves excruciating pain stretched out over several months before your body finally gives up. You don't want that
Not even playing bro. Bleeding from your orrifices is the last stage in alcoholism. You are probably wet brained at this point too, but you can still recover.
What the hell is wet brain?
Alcohol nukes your brain and turns heavy users into full-time morons, even when sober
Frick frick frick if I change my ways now can I stop this? I do legit have memory problems and stuttering and shit
Only way to find out is by stopping now.
Go see a doctor. I dont know how moronic you've become so I will state the obvious: don't quit cold turkey because you will die from withdrawals. You need to taper off, preferably with the help of professionals
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernicke%E2%80%93Korsakoff_syndrome
what a life
The core issue is that addicts dont have any solod reason to quit. The only will they have is the bragging rights that they havent had the substance in X days/months/years. When they break the seal theyve lost the only thing holding them back. I am a weed addict, smoking everyday for 7 years (plus alcohol and nicotine to a lesser extent). I quit cold turkey on all substances in April so I can start a family. I had no real reason to get sober before that. Now I have to do right by my son. Even if i did smoke part of a joint, or drink, or smoke a cig, Id never go off the rails like I did before.
>so moronic that he needs to have another living thing infront of him to realise that smoking will -20 years from his life
nice post
>The core issue is that addicts dont have any solod reason to quit.
People don't quit because they blame everything and everyone else. They blame society. And the whole "it is a disease" thing is one of the worst things to happen to addiction treatment because people can pretend it is this thing infecting them and not take responsibility for it. Addiction isn't real it is just a failure of will.
You’re spreading lies and you don’t know what you’re talking about. Addiction is not the fault of the addict, but it is their responsibility to fix it.
Yeah, addicts should believe in a greater power. Like alcohol itself, or temptation or Our Lord Jesus Christ (praise).
>Addiction is not the fault of the addict,
Addicts CHOOSE to take a substance. Implying there is no choice is ridiculous.
The thing about addiction is that you don't find out you are one until you're already in deep shit
>Addicts CHOOSE to take a substance. Implying there is no choice is ridiculous.
Choice is taken away. That’s why it’s addiction. That’s literally the definition of addiction is that someone can’t stop.
>choice is taken away
Then how does anyone get clean? Checkmate you moron. People get clean by making CHOICES in changing their lives.
Fine, I’ll change my wording, it’s a typically insurmountable challenge that occasionally wavers into being possible but extremely difficult to overcome.
>insurmountable challenge
It has been made into that by people claiming it is a disease. People use the disease cope so they can go down the path of least resistance and not change. You can make better choices and routines in your life by taking away the power of those things and not making them into an insurmountable thing.
Astounding ignorance. There’s millions of addicts suffering right now, if ONLY they were as enlightened as you. You have all the answers. You should write a book.
>It has been made into that by people claiming it is a disease.
A lot of addicts don’t believe it’s a disease so what the frick are you talking about?
>People use the disease cope so they can go down the path of least resistance and not change
That’s literally never happened and you’re getting your information from South Park.
>You can make better choices and routines in your life by taking away the power of those things and not making them into an insurmountable thing.
This is astoundingly moronic because people become addicts first, believers in AA theory years, sometimes decades after the fact. I would say most addicts actually MINIMIZE the problem into nonexistence and think they can stop at any time. That’s why it’s the most common thing you can hear from a drug addict is “I can quit whenever I want.”
>Astounding ignorance. There’s millions of addicts suffering right now, if ONLY they were as enlightened as you. You have all the answers. You should write a book.
Never said that at all. This is all your projection.
>A lot of addicts don’t believe it’s a disease so what the frick are you talking about?
The wilder culture has said that it is a disease and we should feel sorry for addicts. Even though addicts don't just destroy their lives but the lives of all those around them. When they betray trust and steal from family.
>That’s literally never happened and you’re getting your information from South Park.
People irl do use that. People say "frick it" and go on a binge because of that very issue.
>This is astoundingly moronic because
You completely missed the point there. I can quit whenever I want people are just ignoring the issue completely. That's not the same as the "frick it" types who act differently.
>The wilder culture has said that it is a disease and we should feel sorry for addicts.
I don't see this at all, I know people on Cinemaphile like to pretend they're counter-cultural for being le straight edge (I.E. they're young fogeys who aren't social at all) but more often that not people are cruel and insensitive to addicts.
>I don't see this at all
>people on Cinemaphile...
try going outside and not drowning yourself in a bottle alone in your room constantly
I don't drink at all, I have several family members who are alcoholics and I went the other direction because of them. People like you are the exactly the cruel, insensitive people I'm talking about that judge other people without knowing what's going on their lives.
>he said on Cinemaphile
no one cares how many moronic homosexuals commit suicide in your family kid, if you engage in the first place you cant complain about getting replies afterwards, no one made you post just like no one made them drink, you have the same lack of responsibility as them
>I am LE EDGY and angry Cinemaphilener!
Yep, underages in droves
>i am le blogging on Cinemaphile
im not being edgy, i sincerly want you to realise that you have exactly the same behaviours as your family members despite all your best efforts, and i seriously hope this plagues on your mind until you have a nice day so you can stop blogging here like a homosexual
>le homosexual, le have a nice day!
You can stop posting anytime
discord users with anime profile pictures 100%
instantly recoil at any kind of adverse opinion despite inviting them in the first place by posting here
back to plebshit
I find it takes a special kind of person to wish death on a stranger. I worry for your mind.
>I don't see this at all
In wilder culture addicts who get clean are often praised as if they are heroes who overcame something big. Even though in their wake they probably ruined the lives and betrayed the trust of those around them. How many addicts steal from family? And betray them? Drug addiction is usually displayed as either a cool or hip thing that celebrities do. Or something used by victims who have a disease because of society. What about the damage they leave in their wake? Why is an addict praised for getting clean but the family member they betrayed a bunch of times gets nothing? "Because its a diseaseeee like overcoming cancerrr, you fight itttt"
true. the one and only time I ever stole anything was booze. once. I was caught by my friend. it shook me to my core so hard (me betraying my friend and myself) that I also had my one and only panic attack. happy to have learned that lesson the first time and I don't want for alcohol anymore.
>I used to be a terrible person but I learned from my mistakes and now I treat people better
I agree they don't deserve the hero treatment, but there's nothing negative about people changing for the better
Acting as though people are fighting a disease and then praising them like their are heroes is, to me, hugely detrimental in the fight against these issues. People should change for the better and be supported. But people won't change until they start accepting they can.
dont forget:
>celebrities are actively encouraged to break the law and do mountains of cocaine because when caught they just go into therepy, get free praise, and then do it all again
>the same celebrities who the type of braindead moron to become addicted to things worship
you can see how its a recipe for disaster
Are you honestly newbies?
addicts are literally the biggest copers on the planet. there was a lad in a thread before who tried to kill some guy, because the guy was getting high with anons friend, and anons friend OD'd, and anon blamed the guy, and any attempts to point up 'but your friend was the one doing drugs and OD'ing' were met with literal paragraphs of cope about the guys background, history, education etc rather than even attempting to answer it
fun thread it was
In almost every culture in the world drinking is promoted as a social activity and in many cases you will be ostracized if you don't unless you're religious. In the business world if you do not drink with your co-workers or your boss, you are at a significant disadvantage. If you don't drink in high school or college you're weirdo. Depending on your family environment, drinking is extremely normalised. My father's generation did not believe in therpay so what did they do instead They drank, because it was masculine, or something. To pretend that people make choices in a vacuum is completely moronic and you reveal how little life experience or wisdom you actually have.
Peer pressure doesn't get rid of choice. You can only have zero choice if you are FORCED to do something.
>reveal how little life experience or wisdom you actually have
All you can do is rely on ad hominems. The problem is that when you declare something a disease and act like you have little choice in the matter because of society you are giving away all your power on that matter. If someone asked you to jump off a bridge would you do it just because peer pressure.
I'm not saying there's zero choice, I'm pointing out that social pressures and difficulties that prevent people from being clean. You can have a strong mind, but if you make enough choices on habit then it's ingrained in you and very difficult to return to sober living without assistance from a doctor or a program, that's what makes it debilitating. The underages are in this thread in droves because it's clear that they've never had anyone close in their life who has had these problems and that no matter what you say, it's not going to change them.
Their minds aren't fully developed. I used to be a moron myself.
>The underages are in this thread
More ad hominem.
It is an insult because you can't properly use arguments without resorting to it.
alcoholics are literally seething constantly all the time, why would it be any different here after getting exposed for their moronation anonymously online
only if you were in fact underage would you consider this an insult. You need to be 18 to post here
you have been projecting your underageness onto people for half the thread now, its getting embarrasing
>rely on ad hominems
its not an insult, its obvious to everyone here you are a kid who has lived very little life. Your opinion on addiction is meaningless.
Not everyone does that. I always knew exactly what I was doing when drinking heavily and only blamed myself.
How has this not been posted yet?
The episode is funny, but as someone who's entire family has been ruined by alcoholism and violence you see things a little differently. You can easily tell who in this thread is a sheltered little b***h with their family still together.
How the frick does this shit have 23 seasons.
I’m a fricking old man.
(Yes I know the technical count is 26 seasons, but 24,25,26 are not real seasons)
for me it's smoking cigarettes and feeling good about it because of the anti anti smoker episode
Billion dollar morons. What does your net worth look like, anon?
>ITT: addicts coming up with all the copes in the book, from 'its a disease' to 'moderation is impossible' to 'its a spiritual need' to 'NOT drinking is what THEY want'
If you don't have self control you are a Black person, simple as
Fine, then addicts are Black folk who are incapable of moderation. Happy now?
This view doesn't account for the many people who are anit-Black personish in all their affairs(well educated, financially successful, etc.) put who crumble once they start drinking.
there are any number of successful Black folk who suddenly reveal their true potential, wasnt the giant head marvel villain guy convicted of some serious shit recently
anyone CAN become an addict, its just that most people spend their life trying not to be moronic Black folk, and in the process immunise themselves to it
>this obvious bait
astounding
I used heroin intravenously only twice per day; to sedate me and give me relief from the crippling anxiety I’ve dealt with since having a severe head injury as a teenager, and the state failing to provide any type of viable treatment for it.
I was a functioning Iv heroin user for years, but more often than not, people would shoot their whole bag 4-5 shots in the span of a few hours, just to keep themselves completely separated from reality.
These are the same people that would suck dick for cocaine.
holy cope
>i had a head injury uhhh wahhh wahhh uh anxiety people are looking at me 🙁
>taking heroin twice a day is functioning
>trying to sedate yourself actively is functioning
moronic addict self-revisionism, get help
>he said after whining like a homosexual all thread
if you think its straight edge Black folk laughing at you then you are even more moronic than previously thought
its us normal weed smokers or normal drinkers that are the most mad at you uncontrolable Black folk for making us look bad by association
DUDE WEED LMAO exists because even saying 'i smoke weed' even in passing online instantly makes people think that weed is your personality because of homosexuals who blog about how cool they are for smoking weed all the time and morons like you who cant even stop smoking weed and drinking
teetotalers are such stupid homosexuals
no wonder they're friendless virgin losers who spend all their time whining on Cinemaphile
>moronic boozers SEETHING because some men don't drink their poison
>I DRINK JUST ONE BEER OK??? HOW FRICKING DARE YOU NOT DRINK YOU PUSSY!
Embarrassing and pathetic
who are you quoting
>entire thread is addicts coping and getting progressively more pissed off that their main obstacle in life was understood and solved long before their birth
can you answer my question
he is quoting the entire thread is addicts coping and getting progressively more pissed off that their main obstacle in life was understood and solved long before their birth
sorry if that was confusing for your 50iq alco brain
Oh, I don't drink. Your bitterness tells me everything I need to know about you in this moment.
if you're going to samegay atleast try and type differently autistic homosexual
That's not what that phrase means, but yes those are me. Both still accurate.
nice backpedal after immediately getting called out
>says 'oh i dont drink' despite not being the person im replying to in an attempt to get a shit 'gotcha'
imagine being such a troglodyte of a human that even anonymously on Cinemaphile amongst thousands of bots and actual trannies, that your the most identifiable poster in the thread because of how much of a homosexual you are
lmao'ing at your life, remember the time your dad beat the shit out of you and have a nice day champ
>nice backpedal after immediately getting called out
kek what
>imagine being such a troglodyte of a human that even anonymously on Cinemaphile amongst thousands of bots and actual trannies, that your the most identifiable poster in the thread because of how much of a homosexual you are
lmao'ing at your life, remember the time your dad beat the shit out of you and have a nice day champ
I really hit the nail on the head earlier. Praying for you, unironically.
That quote got real fricked up shiiiiet
>he said 'what' and cried again
concessiona accepted, livestream the suicide so it gets reposted on gif for decades to come
Anon, nothing you say bothers me because I know the person you are and you're missing the mark.
real convincing stuff, i can tell by the way you went out of your way to reply to me when i was talking to someone else that you arent bothered
sorry but i guess your dad beat you because he knew you would turn out to be a homosexual from the start
You need to breathe, anon.
>he is this mad
i know complex thoughts dont gel well with your kind but people will just hover over these posts and realise that they're the opposite and know how badly you are seething
nice self own
I don't drink but I do think AA is weird.
>It's a Randy episode
seems like not drinking has been a big topic on Cinemaphile recently. Or maybe I just gravitate towards them because ive been wanting to drink.
im a bit over a year sober. Some friends call me a pussy then apologize after i call them buttholes when they drink. Some say i have proven my ability to not drink, so i should be fine having a few. Should I drink again?
If you're thinking like this you're still weak to it. Get to the point where you have more fun sober if you're not there yet. That's when you'll know you're good.
If it was a problem before, then don't, because it will become a problem again. homosexuals trying to peer pressure you into drinking are doing it because they don't want to feel bad about their own drinking
Thanks for the advice. i do have more fun sober most times, this last month it has been a bit hard because of octoberfest beers maybe.
alch is weird because it's the only thing ive encountered where pretty much complete strangers will ask me why im not doing it.
If you dont mind me asking, wht are your stories? I was asked recently if i wanted to tag along to an AA meeting, and I said id think about it.
Went through a hotel stint. Was drinking at least a handle or two of Captain a week. Eating garbage. Rock bottom. Without good friends and family who believed in me I would have become a bitter piece of shit and would have absolutely drank myself to death.
I wish you the best. Never let the fire in you die.
>alch is weird because it's the only thing ive encountered where pretty much complete strangers will ask me why im not doing it.
It has thousands of years of culture attached to it, usually as a social lubricant. A lot of people assume it's not that bad in terms of physiological and cognitive harm because it's legal, but they couldn't be any more wrong. On a standard-user-dose basis, there exists only two other drugs that causes more harm to the user than alcohol: crack and meth. Heroin is a very close contender though
It's crazy to think alcohol causes the most societal harm out of any substance. Drunk driving accidents, domestic abuse, long term health problems like hearts disease and cancer. It also just makes you very aggressive in general. But like you pointed out, alcohol is also a social cohesive that has ended wars and brought communities together. Truly the definition of a double edged sword.
Not on a per capita per user case.
Someone post the pic, 5% of people are drinking 95 % of the booze. But most people who consume never have social or health issues, not anyone you know, but most people are fine having a drink
This one?
I am the 10%
>a year.
You are like a little baby.
Also I am sure you are not clean, you just replaced it with, well you tell me? Jacking off 3 times a day? Weed? I doubt you did something useful and get an exercise addiction
to tell you the truth, im happier then ive been in a while. but for some reason recently ive been thinking of trying moderation. maybe because ive been thinking complete abstinence is a cope. But maybe that is just a cope to drink again.
Prolly just gonna keep not drinking for now
>Should I drink again?
no anon, its not worth it just for a night of fun. It will turn into months or years of problems.
Yeah, i guess i just havent had serious urges in months so it caught me off guard...
Drinking is awesome, being sober kinda sucks. But it is better than being hungover all the time i guess.
>Some say i have proven my ability to not drink, so i should be fine having a few. Should I drink again
This is the most repeated mistake in an alcoholic’s life. They get some time sober and think they can control it. Painful truth is that you can’t. If you want to go back into drinking, fair enough, but at least don’t go in with the false pretension that you have any willpower over it now. It also can take months before you’re fully back in the full swing of addiction. You might have a beer and then go five months without another one. Obviously you have it under control so you have another one. Then you’re having a couple every month. Then once a week. Then two, then three, but only after 5 PM and only with the boys. Then it’s every day again.
>This is the most repeated mistake in an alcoholic’s life. They get some time sober and think they can control it.
pretty much this, you will learn to recognize when you are just making excuses to do it again. Easier to avoid them when you know the patterns
fair points, glad i can talk about this. something nice about not bogging down people who dont give a shit irl. I mean u all dont need to respond to my posts either, but the amount of responses here proves i think that alch is def a topic people share some common struggles with.
im 25 and sometimes i feel alone in not drinking at this age. maybe its just my friends.
There has been an upswing of sober people in their twenties it seems tho
Lol this was posted in some brewery
Thoughts?
Beer has always been known to possess health qualities in moderation but has the opposite effects on drinkers who drink 10 beers a day.
Stupid bro science peddled by coping alcoholics. Just like the stupid mom science peddled by coping alcoholic housewives about red wine being good for you due to the antioxidants, while forgetting to mention that you'd have to consume 160 glasses of red wine in one sitting for there to be any noticable health benefits from the antioxidants. There's tiny benefits to everything but that means jack shit when the negatives outweigh the positives by 100 to 1
1 in every 12 men in the US is an alcoholic. Number is probably higher in countries where the standard of living is lower.
Fricking grim
Some people are better off being sober but they should shut up about it because no one else cares.
Yea thats why im talking about it here instead
Sober people don't really bring it up usually. AA literally has a saying/tradition, "attraction rather than promotion". A motherfricker who blasts that shit usually won't stay sober.
>t. 20 months in AA
>Sober people don't really bring it up usually.
Completely false.
Btw I'm trans.
Matt and Trey are the quintessential gen-xers. You have to understand that for gen x, "both sides are le bad" was essentially the absolute height of intellect and analysis. Apathy and cynicism were seen as the coolest things possible. They are very different from millenials/zoomers who are hyper-sincere when it comes to ideology and will crucify anyone who disagrees with them slightly. Gen X doesn't view politics as a life or death struggle for survival like younger generations do. Gen X doesn't think twitter fights are the same thing as throwing molotovs in the streets.
There's so many fun drugs out there to get hooked on but people still become alcoholics. I'll never understand how anyone can enjoy drinking that disgusting swill. It doesn't even make you feel good.
Why do people 20 years later still believe Southpark tried to have a message, when in actuality all it ever did was shitposting absurd situations that were funny because of how absurd they were?
This isn't a knock against alcoholics as much as it is a knock against Randy being a fricking idiot.