I watched this with my dad also. Surprisingly, when all my friends started smoking weed I just didn't. Then they got into meth and all hell broke loose. Pot kinda makes me antsy, though. I get aggravated.
weed used to be underground as shit
not everybody and their grandma was using thc and there wasn't a dispensary on every corner
so these movies would come on hbo late at night
and if you were smoking weed back then it was always hush hush
back in the 90s one of my best friends mom sent him to rehab cause she caught him with weed
he had to get treatment for like a month
it's such a contrast to today
>hands 18 year old cousin ten bucks
If I tried to suggest that kids smoked cigarettes less often 50 years ago when tobacco was more socially acceptable, you'd look at me like I was mad.
Prior to legalisation, the only way to get weed was to walk to the bad part of town and hope you don't get ganked by some crackhead whilst looking for a dealer. And hope the dealer isn't an FBI plant looking to put you away for 30 years for simple possession. Now it's pissbaby easy for kids to get weed, because anyone can grow it recreationally or have an adult buy it legally. Same way college kids get beer before they turn 21.
Try not being a moronic pothead in your next post.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Statistics all prove you wrong. And your description of going to buy it is laughable, unless you were dealing in pounds it was never harder than asking the kid in class for a $20 sack after school
4 months ago
Anonymous
>statistics
Source?
>the only way to get weed was to walk to the bad part of town and hope you don't get ganked by some crackhead whilst looking for a dealer. And hope the dealer isn't an FBI plant looking to put you away for 30 years for simple possession.
you realize that's still the case in a fifth of U.S. states and a lot of Europe?
And I bet youth smoking is lower in countries where it is still illegal. It's basic logic.
>Prior to legalisation, the only way to get weed was to walk to the bad part of town and hope you don't get ganked by some crackhead whilst looking for a dealer. And hope the dealer isn't an FBI plant looking to put you away for 30 years for simple possession.
No. Prior to legalization the way to get weed was to make friends with the hacky sack skate board kids in college or even high school who got their weed from their uncle or older cousin.
Who was buying weed from crack dealers?
Even the dungeon & dragon kids would smoke weed and do shrooms.
And now the fact that it is this mainstream thing makes it ironically less appealing to kids. Half the fun of smoking weed or doing drugs back in the day was because how everyone kept telling you how you're not supposed to do them and cool rock stars or rappers have weed lyrics in their songs about parents just don't understand etc.
My sister got kids, they're olde enough to legally buy their own weed and have 0 interest in it. She's the one who gets high.
Weed is basically just wine now.
The point I was making is you had to rely on the small group of people willing to risk a federal prison sentence to get it. Now it's legal (in the locations relevant to the discussion) for grannies to grow it in their front lawn. Trying to pretend like there is zero correlation between ease of access and use rates is actual insanity.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Theres no point debating someone like you. You are emotionally invested in the sibject for some reason and won't respond to facts.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>No source, no argument
Concession accepted.
Funny thing is I'm not even anti-weed. I just think it's funny how potheads make smoking their entire identity and if you ever criticise the legalisation movement or even the plant itself in any whatsoever they take it as a personal attack and lose all semblance of common sense.
>And I bet youth smoking is lower in countries where it is still illegal. It's basic logic.
Source?
I made a supposition, not a claim. I don't need to substantiate a guess. By contrast, YOU made a claim which is supposedly corroborated and factual according to you, therefore you have an actual burden of proof. Try not being such an emotional smarmy frick in your next reply.
4 months ago
Anonymous
> made a supposition, not a claim. I don't need to substantiate a guess. By contrast, YOU made a claim which is supposedly corroborated and factual according to you, therefore you have an actual burden of proof.
Jesus fricking christ, read a train timetable or something to chill out a little bit.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Try not being such an emotional smarmy frick in your next reply.
projection
also not an argument
4 months ago
Anonymous
My sources are from email newsletters I get and don't save. They all come from as reputable studies as possible, usually hosted on that main US gov't website, but going through the effort of digging through my trash for someone who is biased is not in the cards today. Yup, thats right big guy, I'm putting the onus of googling on you.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>And I bet youth smoking is lower in countries where it is still illegal. It's basic logic.
Source?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>correlation
ah it's nothing then
4 months ago
Anonymous
>correlation ≠ causation
Reddit is three doors down, pal.
> made a supposition, not a claim. I don't need to substantiate a guess. By contrast, YOU made a claim which is supposedly corroborated and factual according to you, therefore you have an actual burden of proof.
Jesus fricking christ, read a train timetable or something to chill out a little bit.
You're the b***hmade one crying about how mean I am for being indifferent about weed.
>Try not being such an emotional smarmy frick in your next reply.
projection
also not an argument
>still no source
I'm waiting, amigo
4 months ago
Anonymous
You are thinking I am someone else in this thread.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>mass replying >being indifferent
lol
4 months ago
Anonymous
Still waiting for a source.
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To follow up, your logic isn't as sound as you think it is. Carding is a much higher policed crime now than it uaed to be and its even higher with cannabis than with alcohol and tobacco because as I said armed security is right there. Its the law. No one is going to risk jail buying kids alcohol anymore, so they definitely won't risk it for weed. And if we're being honest, it was harder for me to get alcohol in high achool than weed. You sound like a relic of a long passed time.
Buying beer (and legal weed) for kids is not nearly as serious a crime as possessing a class 1 controlled substance. I shouldn't have to explain this to you. One is a few months in county blues, the other is 20 years in federal prison. Do you not remember what it was like prior to 2012 or whenever it was that Colorado legalised it?
4 months ago
Anonymous
I didn't say more serious crime, I said more policed.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It was more strictly enforced, too. Precisely because weed was a much more "serious" (in the eyes of the law) drug than alcohol, they were much more likely to shake people down for it. Do you not remember decades of lefties crying about all the hippies and nignogs getting thrown in Maximum Security "because some fascist pig saw a blunt during a routine traffic stop"? How many cops were checking adults buying a case of beer to ensure they weren't giving it to college freshmen? Not fricking many.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Weed was underground in the 80s
People ITT keep saying this, what do you mean by "underground"?
Underground means something that's culturally hidden from the mainstream - which weed never was. All the way back in the 1920s weed was already on everyone's radar which is why they made that illegal instead of alcohol after prohibition to appease the moral karens of the time.
They made weed illegal because Mexicans smoked it and we wanted to get rid of them.
4 months ago
Anonymous
We've lived two very different life experiences it seems.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>ome fascist pig saw a blunt during a routine traffic stop"? How many cops were checking adults buying a case of beer to ensure they weren't giving it to college freshmen?
Not even the same thing.
4 months ago
Anonymous
It is. Cop pulls you over, sees a case of beer in the back, and thinks nothing of it as long as you ain't got an open can in the cupholder. Cop pulls you over, smells that characteristic skunky aroma, and immediately drags you out of the car and takes you in for questioning.
4 months ago
Anonymous
You have got to be at least 60 years old
4 months ago
Anonymous
You have to be at least 18 years old to post on Cinemaphile. Prior to the Obama administration, cops didn't frick around with potheads. They would put you on the ground in cuffs without remorse if they thought you had any or had been smoking it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Fine and dandy, but the arguement was about legalization cutting down underage use in which you're still wrong. And I'm still too lazy to spoonfeed your boomer ass so you can keep being wrong, it doesn't bother me much, we have the Farm Bill now, we're unstoppable. Thats what you should really be making an arguement about, is that anyone can buy the farm bill products online without ID or signing for the package. But you probably don't even know what I'm talking about at this point.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Farm Bill
isn't that for hemp?
4 months ago
Anonymous
>isn't that for hemp?
people quickly figured out how to make THC products from stuff legalized in the 2018 bill
my state has some of the harshest possession laws still and even here you can get delta 8 gummmies and pre rolls at the gas station
4 months ago
Anonymous
The products are classified as hemp, still gets you high. THCA is now legal and is literally just unheated THC, converts to THC as soon as heat is applied. It is much cheaper than dispensary products too if you know where to look, no earmark project taxes either. They told is they were going to use dispos to fix roads and improve schools, I look at the reveipt and it says State Zoo tax, what the frick
nerf incoming
4 months ago
Anonymous
The products are classified as hemp, still gets you high. THCA is now legal and is literally just unheated THC, converts to THC as soon as heat is applied. It is much cheaper than dispensary products too if you know where to look, no earmark project taxes either. They told is they were going to use dispos to fix roads and improve schools, I look at the reveipt and it says State Zoo tax, what the frick
4 months ago
Anonymous
Hemp is closely related to marijuana and therefore has many of the same psychoactive compounds (though at a much lower dosage). And it is trivially easy to isolate the psychoactive compounds in it. And since hemp is now legal, including the psychoactive compounds naturally in it, it's made a massive loophole for companies to isolate and sell drugs that affect you identically to how marijuana does, and it's completely legal to do so.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Hemp is closely related to marijuana
yeah i know,
in my day we used to say let's smoke some rope.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Back in your day you actually were LMAOOOOOO GOTTEM
4 months ago
Anonymous
not at all, we used to sell ditch weed to kids like you.
t. anywhere there was corn, there was weed
4 months ago
Anonymous
I feel like you're the same guy who in another thread told me he bought his weed unmeasured from police $50 at a time.
4 months ago
Anonymous
exactly.
t. it was state cops
4 months ago
Anonymous
t. you should write a novel or something you're hilarious
4 months ago
Anonymous
maybe I should
t. used to get great drugs from a few dudes in the coast guard too
4 months ago
Anonymous
>How many cops were checking adults buying a case of beer to ensure they weren't giving it to college freshmen
this is unrelated to open containers while driving
4 months ago
Anonymous
And open containers is unrelated to how cops treated people potentially buying alcohol for minors vs how they treated pot before legalisation.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>weed was illegal before legalized
yes?
4 months ago
Anonymous
And was harder to get. Am I finally getting through to you?
Fine and dandy, but the arguement was about legalization cutting down underage use in which you're still wrong. And I'm still too lazy to spoonfeed your boomer ass so you can keep being wrong, it doesn't bother me much, we have the Farm Bill now, we're unstoppable. Thats what you should really be making an arguement about, is that anyone can buy the farm bill products online without ID or signing for the package. But you probably don't even know what I'm talking about at this point.
Still no source. >I'm not gonna spoonfeed you
So you couldn't find the source for your unsubstantiated claim? Got it.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Grandpa I JUST told you its all in my trash emails fire up the google machine if you care so much cause I don't at this point lol
4 months ago
Anonymous
You're the one who made the claim. Burden of proof is on you, it's not my job to substantiate your arguments for you.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>And was harder to get
Which led to more criminal influences, and criminal consequences. Which isn't good. Yes?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Sure but that's not the argument that was being made. The original argument that I was disputing is the claim that kids smoked MORE weed back when it was illegal than they do now, and that it is somehow harder for them to get ahold of now than it was back when it was illegal. When I asked for proof, all I got was an hour of deflection and copium.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Nobody was getting federal sentences for weed unless they were trafficking and that’s still federally enforced
4 months ago
Anonymous
>the only way to get weed was to walk to the bad part of town and hope you don't get ganked by some crackhead whilst looking for a dealer. And hope the dealer isn't an FBI plant looking to put you away for 30 years for simple possession.
you realize that's still the case in a fifth of U.S. states and a lot of Europe?
4 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah nah, more like just going to town centre and waiting for a random african standing around a park corner ask you if you want to buy weed. I guess with our lovely new arrivals any part of town is now the bad part lol. Cops could not give a lesser shit about small time weed possession because there are so many stabbings and rapes, or in case of Sweden fricking bomb attacks and shootings.
T: european
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Prior to legalisation, the only way to get weed was to walk to the bad part of town and hope you don't get ganked by some crackhead whilst looking for a dealer. And hope the dealer isn't an FBI plant looking to put you away for 30 years for simple possession.
No. Prior to legalization the way to get weed was to make friends with the hacky sack skate board kids in college or even high school who got their weed from their uncle or older cousin.
Who was buying weed from crack dealers?
Even the dungeon & dragon kids would smoke weed and do shrooms.
And now the fact that it is this mainstream thing makes it ironically less appealing to kids. Half the fun of smoking weed or doing drugs back in the day was because how everyone kept telling you how you're not supposed to do them and cool rock stars or rappers have weed lyrics in their songs about parents just don't understand etc.
My sister got kids, they're olde enough to legally buy their own weed and have 0 interest in it. She's the one who gets high.
Weed is basically just wine now.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>the only way to get weed was to walk to the bad part of town and hope you don't get ganked by some crackhead whilst looking for a dealer
lmao. how much of a sheltered virgin homosexual are you? that's not remotely how that works.
4 months ago
Anonymous
>Prior to legalisation, the only way to get weed was to walk to the bad part of town and hope you don't get ganked by some crackhead
You have no idea what you're talking about, lame idiot. Weed was mostly sold by burnouts and teenagers. You can't walk 4 blocks in the suburbs without passing by several weed dealers. Of course an antisocial, shut in loser like yourself would literally liken it to buying heroin lmao. Nobody liked you back then, and nobody likes you now. Try not being such a know-it-all gay.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Where did the weed come from? moron neohippies and their wilfull ignorance, good lord
4 months ago
Anonymous
White people started growing and distributing weed in the 90s. You are so god damn old
4 months ago
Anonymous
Prior to legalisation the majority of weed was controlled by cartels. This is a fact backed up by government data, as I posted here:
It's bizarre how quickly weed being normalized killed off that subculture. In the late 2000s I remember "dude weed lol" stuff on G4 around April 20th. Even though Attack of the Show and other shows had dedicated 420 episodes, they really had to talk around the idea of it and couldn't directly talk about getting high or smoking a joint. It was mostly winks and implications and stuff like that. Then legalization started a few years later and the whole stoner subculture became obsolete by like 2018. The only people I know who self-identify as "stoners" now are loose girls and Rick and Morty redditors.
weed used to be underground as shit
not everybody and their grandma was using thc and there wasn't a dispensary on every corner
so these movies would come on hbo late at night
and if you were smoking weed back then it was always hush hush
for cheech & chong it was ok
not for everyday u.s. citizens tho
you got arrested for possession and a misdemeanor on your record.
if you got caught selling or transporting it was another misdemeanor
1 + 1 = felony and serious jail time
>Weed was underground in the 80s
People ITT keep saying this, what do you mean by "underground"?
Underground means something that's culturally hidden from the mainstream - which weed never was. All the way back in the 1920s weed was already on everyone's radar which is why they made that illegal instead of alcohol after prohibition to appease the moral karens of the time.
C&C was never funny and was always a hurtful portrayal of cannabis users. They both make jokes as if they've never smoked weed before, all of the comedy comes from an outdated sober person's perspective without point of reference to what being high is really like. It all comes off so poserish and performative, the giant rolling paper that was actually unsmokable that came with their LP was very symbolic. Chong can't hang, its all for show and High Times endorsements and Cheech was just doing spicface and got tired of it fast
Marijuana is an extremely dangerous and corrosive drug for our country. I know that some degenerates are going to lash out and write essays about the supposed health benefits, of which there are none by the way, but I mean culturally it is a destructive drug. It turns all of its users into lazy, liberal slack jawed homosexuals and it should be banned and controlled with the harshest penalties
I am on 5,000mg right now as an alternative to alcohol and opoids and I'm a National Socialist who wants all israelites dead. Its fair to say that I can't hold down a job but I was like that before starting.
Dr. Ganja sells 14g jars of THCA distillate for $110 and you can find 10,000mg jars of mixed cannibinoid Half Bak'd brand gummies for $30 each online. Its not every day but its managable. I do need to lose weight.
Yes. Some of the legal cannibinoids are weaker than others. D8 is by far the weakest and generally waste of time but Half Bak'd uses enough stronger ones in the blend for it to still be potent
4 months ago
Anonymous
>D8 is by far the weakest and generally waste of time
I like it. It's like a mild anti-anxiety med. It takes the edge off but you aren't "stoned" per se.
Dr. Ganja sells 14g jars of THCA distillate for $110 and you can find 10,000mg jars of mixed cannibinoid Half Bak'd brand gummies for $30 each online. Its not every day but its managable. I do need to lose weight.
Also been munching on this. I do not recommend binoid but I got it for free after they gave me poor customer service over the holidays
Oh we'll listen, that's fine. Cite your sources and list your credentials. Unfortunately you probably earn like $13.50 an hour at a movie theater, you're a little over 18 and have anecdotal examples of how some kid who like Twizted is just like way gone on the weed, man. Yeah, we're listening, bud.
Holland has had weedshops for like 80 years with everybody over 18 being allowed to smoke it and they're in the top 5 something of happy healthy countries that do well
Also their biggest party is the anti muslim party so it also doesn't turn you into a left wing hippie
>Marijuana is an extremely dangerous and corrosive drug for our country
There has never been a recorded case of someone fatally overdosing on marijuana. The human body literally cannot consume it quick enough in a large enough amount. Just that alone makes it safer than alcohol.
>recorded case of someone fatally overdosing on marijuana
https://www.newsweek.com/thc-overdose-death-marijuana-exposure-united-states-1442742
I didn't read it all but yeah quick search >Jun 07, 2019 at 7:30 AM EDT
These articles always lie in the headline and then make a small disclaimer that the dude was also on lethal doses of heroin and meth while driving with heart condition
Even with concentrates its impossible to consume so much that you die. It is one of those facts like the sky being blue. It simply can't be done. You can get high and do something stupid like have a nice day, sure, but you can not overdose on THC
These articles always lie in the headline and then make a small disclaimer that the dude was also on lethal doses of heroin and meth while driving with heart condition
IIRC in the 70's at the peak of drug hysteria the US government had a program to spray herbicide all over Mexico to stop marijuana growth. Contaminated marijuana eventually made its way back to the US.
4 months ago
Anonymous
there was all sorts of stories lol
that was one I just remembered >if you smoke it and your ears ring, you're gonna die
yeah i remember it
Just like alcohol people can use marijuana responsibly. Crazy idea right? Calling someone who smokes marijuana 1-2 times a week a stoner is the equivalent of calling who drinks 1-2 an alcoholic. Alcohol is drug, a lot of people just like to pretend otherwise to make themselves feel superior.
The point is that he was comparing the safety of marijuana to alcohol. If you look at the evidence one could easily say marijuana is much safer overall. There are over 7,000 alcohol related deaths in the US each year. Would you like to guess how many marijuana related deaths there are each year?
>I made a supposition, not a claim. I don't need to substantiate a guess. By contrast, YOU made a claim which is supposedly corroborated and factual according to you, therefore you have an actual burden of proof. Try not being such an emotional smarmy frick in your next reply.
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To follow up, your logic isn't as sound as you think it is. Carding is a much higher policed crime now than it uaed to be and its even higher with cannabis than with alcohol and tobacco because as I said armed security is right there. Its the law. No one is going to risk jail buying kids alcohol anymore, so they definitely won't risk it for weed. And if we're being honest, it was harder for me to get alcohol in high achool than weed. You sound like a relic of a long passed time.
I notice a lot of stoner movies are not comfy at all but are anxious and stressful. Like Harold and Kumar
Anyways weed makes me anxious I couldn't just sit and watch a movie, and all the hollywood satanism is way too apparent when I do so I always go outside and just wander wherever the spirit takes me and have an adventure I never would otherwise
That's because they're movies first and stone comedies second. There needs to be an antagonist and things happening and decades old tropes and studio notes from people who have never smoked weed and are like "there needs to be a farting unicorn hallucination - kids are all over that latest internet meme"
A movie for stoners without being a movie about stoners would be a documentary like Baraka where it's le deep spiritual worldly experience for 90 minutes
remember when pot was underground and to go do some pot you had to drive 500 miles uphill both ways to buy pot from crackhead heroin dealers in the meanest blackest part of town
Lmao I swear, like look at the first post of this god damn thread and then scroll down and watch as it turns into the totally not buttmad-essays some train schedule enthusiasts are throwing around. Why is it always the weed threads that go like this?
>duuuude Mary Jane has always been holistic, organic, free range, and grown right here in America by hippies on their co-op homesteads >pay no attention to the fact that marijuana is the single most profitable drug for south american drug cartels, and that marijuana is the single most common drug illicitly smuggled into the US across the US-Mexico border
>Montegut has said the woman was likely smoking the cannabis oil in highly concentrated form. "I'm thinking this lady must have vaped this THC oil and got a high level in her system and [it] made her stop breathing, like a respiratory failure," he said.
jesus christ
If it wasn't clickbait journalism it would have been the first THC overdose in history and would have made major global news. I'm not going to bother reading the article but however she died was already in play with or without THC, "after hitting the vape" doesn't mean anything significant alone.
>would have made major global news
what, so everyone can go back to "fighting" against weed? since legalization, profits of weed has soared year after year. you are out of your mind if you really think people will let a few deaths (if it were real) affect the over multi-billion per year business venture
Legalization has only profited the dispensaries and hurt the much larger alcohol and pharma industries. Absofrickinglutely these israelites want the cat put back in the bag
I DON'T smoke weed
I DON'T drink alcohol
I DON'T have sex
I DON'T have friends
I DON'T listen to 1980s hardcore punk
I DO play video games jack off and shitpost for 10+ hours a day
I AM (a zoomer's understanding of) Straight Edge!
He never said that
He said that and looks like that.
he paraphrased it
Why do people needlessly abbreviate words? Are they lazy or do they not speak English? Or both?
Less time typing means more time blazing
Can confirm
>I'm totally blazed rn
Up In Smoke is a great comedy. Can't wait to show my kids when they're ready.
unironically a film that's only funny if you've smoked weed. but fricking hell is it funny
my dad used to calm me down with the "oooohmmmmm" when i was a kid. saw this movie as an adult and lol
I watched this with my dad also. Surprisingly, when all my friends started smoking weed I just didn't. Then they got into meth and all hell broke loose. Pot kinda makes me antsy, though. I get aggravated.
I think we're parked, man.
I never understood why the special weed in Nice Dreams turned people into lizards.
weed used to be underground as shit
not everybody and their grandma was using thc and there wasn't a dispensary on every corner
so these movies would come on hbo late at night
and if you were smoking weed back then it was always hush hush
back in the 90s one of my best friends mom sent him to rehab cause she caught him with weed
he had to get treatment for like a month
it's such a contrast to today
Concerned parents still do this, ironically especially in California. Legalization has cut down undersge use by a lot.
>legalisation cut down on underage usage
Fricking K E K
Armed security at the door of dispensaries checking ID's is increasing underage use, you're right.
>hands 18 year old cousin ten bucks
If I tried to suggest that kids smoked cigarettes less often 50 years ago when tobacco was more socially acceptable, you'd look at me like I was mad.
Prior to legalisation, the only way to get weed was to walk to the bad part of town and hope you don't get ganked by some crackhead whilst looking for a dealer. And hope the dealer isn't an FBI plant looking to put you away for 30 years for simple possession. Now it's pissbaby easy for kids to get weed, because anyone can grow it recreationally or have an adult buy it legally. Same way college kids get beer before they turn 21.
Try not being a moronic pothead in your next post.
Statistics all prove you wrong. And your description of going to buy it is laughable, unless you were dealing in pounds it was never harder than asking the kid in class for a $20 sack after school
>statistics
Source?
And I bet youth smoking is lower in countries where it is still illegal. It's basic logic.
The point I was making is you had to rely on the small group of people willing to risk a federal prison sentence to get it. Now it's legal (in the locations relevant to the discussion) for grannies to grow it in their front lawn. Trying to pretend like there is zero correlation between ease of access and use rates is actual insanity.
Theres no point debating someone like you. You are emotionally invested in the sibject for some reason and won't respond to facts.
>No source, no argument
Concession accepted.
Funny thing is I'm not even anti-weed. I just think it's funny how potheads make smoking their entire identity and if you ever criticise the legalisation movement or even the plant itself in any whatsoever they take it as a personal attack and lose all semblance of common sense.
I made a supposition, not a claim. I don't need to substantiate a guess. By contrast, YOU made a claim which is supposedly corroborated and factual according to you, therefore you have an actual burden of proof. Try not being such an emotional smarmy frick in your next reply.
> made a supposition, not a claim. I don't need to substantiate a guess. By contrast, YOU made a claim which is supposedly corroborated and factual according to you, therefore you have an actual burden of proof.
Jesus fricking christ, read a train timetable or something to chill out a little bit.
>Try not being such an emotional smarmy frick in your next reply.
projection
also not an argument
My sources are from email newsletters I get and don't save. They all come from as reputable studies as possible, usually hosted on that main US gov't website, but going through the effort of digging through my trash for someone who is biased is not in the cards today. Yup, thats right big guy, I'm putting the onus of googling on you.
>And I bet youth smoking is lower in countries where it is still illegal. It's basic logic.
Source?
>correlation
ah it's nothing then
>correlation ≠ causation
Reddit is three doors down, pal.
You're the b***hmade one crying about how mean I am for being indifferent about weed.
>still no source
I'm waiting, amigo
You are thinking I am someone else in this thread.
>mass replying
>being indifferent
lol
Still waiting for a source.
Buying beer (and legal weed) for kids is not nearly as serious a crime as possessing a class 1 controlled substance. I shouldn't have to explain this to you. One is a few months in county blues, the other is 20 years in federal prison. Do you not remember what it was like prior to 2012 or whenever it was that Colorado legalised it?
I didn't say more serious crime, I said more policed.
It was more strictly enforced, too. Precisely because weed was a much more "serious" (in the eyes of the law) drug than alcohol, they were much more likely to shake people down for it. Do you not remember decades of lefties crying about all the hippies and nignogs getting thrown in Maximum Security "because some fascist pig saw a blunt during a routine traffic stop"? How many cops were checking adults buying a case of beer to ensure they weren't giving it to college freshmen? Not fricking many.
They made weed illegal because Mexicans smoked it and we wanted to get rid of them.
We've lived two very different life experiences it seems.
>ome fascist pig saw a blunt during a routine traffic stop"? How many cops were checking adults buying a case of beer to ensure they weren't giving it to college freshmen?
Not even the same thing.
It is. Cop pulls you over, sees a case of beer in the back, and thinks nothing of it as long as you ain't got an open can in the cupholder. Cop pulls you over, smells that characteristic skunky aroma, and immediately drags you out of the car and takes you in for questioning.
You have got to be at least 60 years old
You have to be at least 18 years old to post on Cinemaphile. Prior to the Obama administration, cops didn't frick around with potheads. They would put you on the ground in cuffs without remorse if they thought you had any or had been smoking it.
Fine and dandy, but the arguement was about legalization cutting down underage use in which you're still wrong. And I'm still too lazy to spoonfeed your boomer ass so you can keep being wrong, it doesn't bother me much, we have the Farm Bill now, we're unstoppable. Thats what you should really be making an arguement about, is that anyone can buy the farm bill products online without ID or signing for the package. But you probably don't even know what I'm talking about at this point.
>Farm Bill
isn't that for hemp?
>isn't that for hemp?
people quickly figured out how to make THC products from stuff legalized in the 2018 bill
my state has some of the harshest possession laws still and even here you can get delta 8 gummmies and pre rolls at the gas station
nerf incoming
The products are classified as hemp, still gets you high. THCA is now legal and is literally just unheated THC, converts to THC as soon as heat is applied. It is much cheaper than dispensary products too if you know where to look, no earmark project taxes either. They told is they were going to use dispos to fix roads and improve schools, I look at the reveipt and it says State Zoo tax, what the frick
Hemp is closely related to marijuana and therefore has many of the same psychoactive compounds (though at a much lower dosage). And it is trivially easy to isolate the psychoactive compounds in it. And since hemp is now legal, including the psychoactive compounds naturally in it, it's made a massive loophole for companies to isolate and sell drugs that affect you identically to how marijuana does, and it's completely legal to do so.
>Hemp is closely related to marijuana
yeah i know,
in my day we used to say let's smoke some rope.
Back in your day you actually were LMAOOOOOO GOTTEM
not at all, we used to sell ditch weed to kids like you.
t. anywhere there was corn, there was weed
I feel like you're the same guy who in another thread told me he bought his weed unmeasured from police $50 at a time.
exactly.
t. it was state cops
t. you should write a novel or something you're hilarious
maybe I should
t. used to get great drugs from a few dudes in the coast guard too
>How many cops were checking adults buying a case of beer to ensure they weren't giving it to college freshmen
this is unrelated to open containers while driving
And open containers is unrelated to how cops treated people potentially buying alcohol for minors vs how they treated pot before legalisation.
>weed was illegal before legalized
yes?
And was harder to get. Am I finally getting through to you?
Still no source.
>I'm not gonna spoonfeed you
So you couldn't find the source for your unsubstantiated claim? Got it.
Grandpa I JUST told you its all in my trash emails fire up the google machine if you care so much cause I don't at this point lol
You're the one who made the claim. Burden of proof is on you, it's not my job to substantiate your arguments for you.
>And was harder to get
Which led to more criminal influences, and criminal consequences. Which isn't good. Yes?
Sure but that's not the argument that was being made. The original argument that I was disputing is the claim that kids smoked MORE weed back when it was illegal than they do now, and that it is somehow harder for them to get ahold of now than it was back when it was illegal. When I asked for proof, all I got was an hour of deflection and copium.
Nobody was getting federal sentences for weed unless they were trafficking and that’s still federally enforced
>the only way to get weed was to walk to the bad part of town and hope you don't get ganked by some crackhead whilst looking for a dealer. And hope the dealer isn't an FBI plant looking to put you away for 30 years for simple possession.
you realize that's still the case in a fifth of U.S. states and a lot of Europe?
Yeah nah, more like just going to town centre and waiting for a random african standing around a park corner ask you if you want to buy weed. I guess with our lovely new arrivals any part of town is now the bad part lol. Cops could not give a lesser shit about small time weed possession because there are so many stabbings and rapes, or in case of Sweden fricking bomb attacks and shootings.
T: european
>Prior to legalisation, the only way to get weed was to walk to the bad part of town and hope you don't get ganked by some crackhead whilst looking for a dealer. And hope the dealer isn't an FBI plant looking to put you away for 30 years for simple possession.
No. Prior to legalization the way to get weed was to make friends with the hacky sack skate board kids in college or even high school who got their weed from their uncle or older cousin.
Who was buying weed from crack dealers?
Even the dungeon & dragon kids would smoke weed and do shrooms.
And now the fact that it is this mainstream thing makes it ironically less appealing to kids. Half the fun of smoking weed or doing drugs back in the day was because how everyone kept telling you how you're not supposed to do them and cool rock stars or rappers have weed lyrics in their songs about parents just don't understand etc.
My sister got kids, they're olde enough to legally buy their own weed and have 0 interest in it. She's the one who gets high.
Weed is basically just wine now.
>the only way to get weed was to walk to the bad part of town and hope you don't get ganked by some crackhead whilst looking for a dealer
lmao. how much of a sheltered virgin homosexual are you? that's not remotely how that works.
>Prior to legalisation, the only way to get weed was to walk to the bad part of town and hope you don't get ganked by some crackhead
You have no idea what you're talking about, lame idiot. Weed was mostly sold by burnouts and teenagers. You can't walk 4 blocks in the suburbs without passing by several weed dealers. Of course an antisocial, shut in loser like yourself would literally liken it to buying heroin lmao. Nobody liked you back then, and nobody likes you now. Try not being such a know-it-all gay.
Where did the weed come from? moron neohippies and their wilfull ignorance, good lord
White people started growing and distributing weed in the 90s. You are so god damn old
Prior to legalisation the majority of weed was controlled by cartels. This is a fact backed up by government data, as I posted here:
>b-but where I live
Anecdotes are not evidence. Cope.
They dominated it until the 90s. I'm not giving vice traffic
>I'm not giving vice traffic
pure and uncut based
>Armed security
do you live on MLK st?
Theres no dispos in the hood jackass nigs can't afford dispo weed
>he has disarmed security at his weed store
didn't know it was legal in the UK
we don't have security at all you just go in and there's a cute hippie girl working
I would probably use weed more often if I could buy from a cute hippie chick instead of a buck tooth somali hiding in a park bush.
>you just go in and there's a cute hippie girl working
>he had to get treatment for like a month
Like conversion therapy?
It's bizarre how quickly weed being normalized killed off that subculture. In the late 2000s I remember "dude weed lol" stuff on G4 around April 20th. Even though Attack of the Show and other shows had dedicated 420 episodes, they really had to talk around the idea of it and couldn't directly talk about getting high or smoking a joint. It was mostly winks and implications and stuff like that. Then legalization started a few years later and the whole stoner subculture became obsolete by like 2018. The only people I know who self-identify as "stoners" now are loose girls and Rick and Morty redditors.
>mainstream hollywood movies
>underground as shit
for cheech & chong it was ok
not for everyday u.s. citizens tho
you got arrested for possession and a misdemeanor on your record.
if you got caught selling or transporting it was another misdemeanor
1 + 1 = felony and serious jail time
No even for them it wasn't okay, cheech got thrown in jail for selling bongs over the internet in like 2004.
weed was mainstream in the late 2000s, even my mom smoked it, Weed was underground in the 80s for sure though.
>Weed was underground in the 80s
People ITT keep saying this, what do you mean by "underground"?
Underground means something that's culturally hidden from the mainstream - which weed never was. All the way back in the 1920s weed was already on everyone's radar which is why they made that illegal instead of alcohol after prohibition to appease the moral karens of the time.
you don't run around and announce/register to smoke weed because the state says so.
the feds did not.
>the feds did not
legalize it(in the USA of course)
>you don't run around and announce/register to smoke weed because the state says so.
In english please? Who's registering to smoke weed where now?
if you have to ask, you do not know.
I'm getting high today, bros. It's been nearly two years since I've smoked.
I hope your Puffco Peak Pro v2 is fully charged up and that you've got some nice solventless concentrates to medicate with.
Maybe you should try getting a job.
Monica
No don't take those man.
Based. Blaze it 420
C&C was never funny and was always a hurtful portrayal of cannabis users. They both make jokes as if they've never smoked weed before, all of the comedy comes from an outdated sober person's perspective without point of reference to what being high is really like. It all comes off so poserish and performative, the giant rolling paper that was actually unsmokable that came with their LP was very symbolic. Chong can't hang, its all for show and High Times endorsements and Cheech was just doing spicface and got tired of it fast
Shut up homosexual
Mad cause I'm right and that these facts also expose all C&C fans as poser stoners too
You are exactly the type of moron that deserves to be made fun of.
And did you know that there are PEOPLE (e.g. homosexual sapiens) inside of those Disney characters at Disneyland? What the FRICK
based. this truth caused a mild upset by the look of it
Most of the Cheech and Chong comedy albums were great too. Most of them.
Cheech Marin isn't Mexican and Tommy Chong isn't Chinese
Marijuana is an extremely dangerous and corrosive drug for our country. I know that some degenerates are going to lash out and write essays about the supposed health benefits, of which there are none by the way, but I mean culturally it is a destructive drug. It turns all of its users into lazy, liberal slack jawed homosexuals and it should be banned and controlled with the harshest penalties
I am on 5,000mg right now as an alternative to alcohol and opoids and I'm a National Socialist who wants all israelites dead. Its fair to say that I can't hold down a job but I was like that before starting.
>5,000mg
Dr. Ganja sells 14g jars of THCA distillate for $110 and you can find 10,000mg jars of mixed cannibinoid Half Bak'd brand gummies for $30 each online. Its not every day but its managable. I do need to lose weight.
>Half Bak'd brand gummies
Is this that shit that's below whatever delta9% by weight so they can sell it in states where delta8 shits are legal?
Yes. Some of the legal cannibinoids are weaker than others. D8 is by far the weakest and generally waste of time but Half Bak'd uses enough stronger ones in the blend for it to still be potent
>D8 is by far the weakest and generally waste of time
I like it. It's like a mild anti-anxiety med. It takes the edge off but you aren't "stoned" per se.
Also been munching on this. I do not recommend binoid but I got it for free after they gave me poor customer service over the holidays
Oh we'll listen, that's fine. Cite your sources and list your credentials. Unfortunately you probably earn like $13.50 an hour at a movie theater, you're a little over 18 and have anecdotal examples of how some kid who like Twizted is just like way gone on the weed, man. Yeah, we're listening, bud.
If you had a child, would you prefer that they be hooked on heroin instead
why would I want them hooked on either
>YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE
israelite logic
Holland has had weedshops for like 80 years with everybody over 18 being allowed to smoke it and they're in the top 5 something of happy healthy countries that do well
Also their biggest party is the anti muslim party so it also doesn't turn you into a left wing hippie
it probably wouldn't be their biggest party if the muslims weren't actively robbing and raping you on the streets of amsterdam while you're stoned
And now they're gladly importing rapists and killers to their country, their brains are fried
>Marijuana is an extremely dangerous and corrosive drug for our country
There has never been a recorded case of someone fatally overdosing on marijuana. The human body literally cannot consume it quick enough in a large enough amount. Just that alone makes it safer than alcohol.
>recorded case of someone fatally overdosing on marijuana
https://www.newsweek.com/thc-overdose-death-marijuana-exposure-united-states-1442742
I didn't read it all but yeah quick search
>Jun 07, 2019 at 7:30 AM EDT
>vaping THC oil
That's not marijuana.
oh.
ok satan
Even with concentrates its impossible to consume so much that you die. It is one of those facts like the sky being blue. It simply can't be done. You can get high and do something stupid like have a nice day, sure, but you can not overdose on THC
These articles always lie in the headline and then make a small disclaimer that the dude was also on lethal doses of heroin and meth while driving with heart condition
Not to mention they weren't even smoking marijuana but THC oil which has a long history has having very sketchy additives in it.
didn't people smoke pot with DDT on it?
IIRC in the 70's at the peak of drug hysteria the US government had a program to spray herbicide all over Mexico to stop marijuana growth. Contaminated marijuana eventually made its way back to the US.
there was all sorts of stories lol
that was one I just remembered
>if you smoke it and your ears ring, you're gonna die
yeah i remember it
There is a term called functional alcoholic but there has never been a functional stoner. everybody who habitually smokes is a fricking loser.
first one of you c**ts to mention snoop dog or joe rogan i will come to your house and rape you to death
Would you consider Carl Sagan functional?
What does habitually mean
Just like alcohol people can use marijuana responsibly. Crazy idea right? Calling someone who smokes marijuana 1-2 times a week a stoner is the equivalent of calling who drinks 1-2 an alcoholic. Alcohol is drug, a lot of people just like to pretend otherwise to make themselves feel superior.
Another Michael Phelps fan I see
You can die from too much nutmeg or too much paracetamol.
>bro you won't die from it
does not mean it's good for you
It is good for you, it prevents cancer and dementia from forming, but that wasn't what he said. He said it was safer than alcohol.
Weed is safer than alcohol 101% no argument
>bro it cures cancer it's solves everything
it most certainly does not.
Still putting words in mouths. I said prevents cancer from forming, not cures it. Look it up.
>I said prevents cancer from forming
I already eat red meat though
If it really did big pharma would've been running the weed game.
They can't patent it idiot. They tried with marinol and no one would pay their shitty prices
The point is that he was comparing the safety of marijuana to alcohol. If you look at the evidence one could easily say marijuana is much safer overall. There are over 7,000 alcohol related deaths in the US each year. Would you like to guess how many marijuana related deaths there are each year?
One?
>marijuana related deaths
that is pretty loose
i offered some bums cisco back in the day if they fought each other and boy was it a show.
Marijuana may kill you but it rots your brain causes a spiritual death
>MAMA TALKING TO ME TRYING TO TELL ME HOW TO LIVE
Dave's not here man
Chong was great in colour out of space, haven't seen it again cus it's almost as depressing as the shirt story
Weird, could swear I JUST replied to this exact thread yesterday, but my post isn't here
All of this has happened before. All of this will happen again.
i enjoy the fallen angels dill but i am taking a break for a bit, dont want to develop a psychological dependence ya know
Cheech and Chong were like the stoner equivalent of Mario and Luigi.
>Mario and Luigi.
nah, those 2 were on mushrooms so johnny depp and benicio del torro would be closer to mario and luigi
It was a different time
>I made a supposition, not a claim. I don't need to substantiate a guess. By contrast, YOU made a claim which is supposedly corroborated and factual according to you, therefore you have an actual burden of proof. Try not being such an emotional smarmy frick in your next reply.
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To follow up, your logic isn't as sound as you think it is. Carding is a much higher policed crime now than it uaed to be and its even higher with cannabis than with alcohol and tobacco because as I said armed security is right there. Its the law. No one is going to risk jail buying kids alcohol anymore, so they definitely won't risk it for weed. And if we're being honest, it was harder for me to get alcohol in high achool than weed. You sound like a relic of a long passed time.
I notice a lot of stoner movies are not comfy at all but are anxious and stressful. Like Harold and Kumar
Anyways weed makes me anxious I couldn't just sit and watch a movie, and all the hollywood satanism is way too apparent when I do so I always go outside and just wander wherever the spirit takes me and have an adventure I never would otherwise
That's because they're movies first and stone comedies second. There needs to be an antagonist and things happening and decades old tropes and studio notes from people who have never smoked weed and are like "there needs to be a farting unicorn hallucination - kids are all over that latest internet meme"
A movie for stoners without being a movie about stoners would be a documentary like Baraka where it's le deep spiritual worldly experience for 90 minutes
Fricking hell no, give me raindow unicorn hallucination dude weed lmao hollywood shit any day over "deep spiritual worldly experience for 90 minutes"
It's unironically a good movie. it's just footage of tribal people edited over busy cities, absolutely no dialogue.
Yeah back when I was 19 years old and not a personal hygiene enthusiast I would had probably thought it was really profound and deep.
how do you do fellow pot-heads
remember when pot was underground and to go do some pot you had to drive 500 miles uphill both ways to buy pot from crackhead heroin dealers in the meanest blackest part of town
What the frick are you autists even arguing about?
It's one guy who's not totally mad and is indifferent towards weed
Lmao I swear, like look at the first post of this god damn thread and then scroll down and watch as it turns into the totally not buttmad-essays some train schedule enthusiasts are throwing around. Why is it always the weed threads that go like this?
Stoners take any criticism of the holy leaf as a personal attack
I thought weed was supposed to make you chill
to be fair, didn't they toot a bunch of coke in that scene?
>duuuude Mary Jane has always been holistic, organic, free range, and grown right here in America by hippies on their co-op homesteads
>pay no attention to the fact that marijuana is the single most profitable drug for south american drug cartels, and that marijuana is the single most common drug illicitly smuggled into the US across the US-Mexico border
>most profitable
>most smuggled
Both blatantly false
Yeah...
https://www.vice.com/en/article/d3j55x/legal-pot-in-the-us-is-crippling-mexican-cartels
uh, he said his name is RALPH
>mr burt reynolds and miss dolly pardon
>Montegut has said the woman was likely smoking the cannabis oil in highly concentrated form. "I'm thinking this lady must have vaped this THC oil and got a high level in her system and [it] made her stop breathing, like a respiratory failure," he said.
jesus christ
Thats not possible lol don't be a rube who falls for clickbait journalism
>Thats not possible
we have a doctor in the house
If it wasn't clickbait journalism it would have been the first THC overdose in history and would have made major global news. I'm not going to bother reading the article but however she died was already in play with or without THC, "after hitting the vape" doesn't mean anything significant alone.
>would have made major global news
what, so everyone can go back to "fighting" against weed? since legalization, profits of weed has soared year after year. you are out of your mind if you really think people will let a few deaths (if it were real) affect the over multi-billion per year business venture
Legalization has only profited the dispensaries and hurt the much larger alcohol and pharma industries. Absofrickinglutely these israelites want the cat put back in the bag
I DON'T smoke weed
I DON'T drink alcohol
I DON'T have sex
I DON'T have friends
I DON'T listen to 1980s hardcore punk
I DO play video games jack off and shitpost for 10+ hours a day
I AM (a zoomer's understanding of) Straight Edge!
>"I'm not addicted"
>Spends $1200 a month on edibles
>"I'm not addicted"
>constantly tries to argue driving under the influence is not a big deal
>"I'm not addicted"
>5 minutes later....says drunk driving isn't that bad either
>"I'm not addicted"
>shitposts on Cinemaphile 16 hours a day
The twist is he's not hurting anyone by doing that.
it rots your brain causes a spiritual death
Not your problem. Legal or otherwise.