i saw a baby get smashed against a wall and die in a film made fairly recently. Its definitely possible to have something that nasty but most directors would definitely be too pussy to include it.
By not going full noe and not showing the skulls get smashed in closeup repeatedly.
Just show mcgill or whoever it was walking to the wall and make the motion and have a nice wet plop soundeffect but his body blocks the view.
In the book of American Psycho a woman in nailed to the floor, her tongue is cut out and then Bateman facefricks her while spraying her eyes with mace.
You just cut it or substitute it with something toned down and more film friendly.
In The Witch the old hag butter churns a baby out of frame then rubs the mash all over her naked body to turn young again. Nothing is unfilmable if you don't actual film it.
Glenn Fleshler should be the Judge but I'd take Chalamet as the Kid. He doesn't need to put some amazing performance in it, just be there and then get raped to death by the Judge in the end which his twink ass should be accustomed to by now.
You were filtered. Firstly the ending is ambiguous for the kid, secondly everything written in the book up to that point suggests the kid is killed by the Judge.
Child rape/murder is something that the Judge is linked to throughout, and then additionally the kid has a "showdown" with the Judge shortly before where he rejects his philosophy and belittles him.
Don't even try saying the Judge was a metaphor. He is clearly a being with a physical body throughout the book.
>Starts calling the kid the man in the last chapter, makes a point of saying he took his hat off and that there is a mirror behind the bar >"Look at them now. Pick a man, any man. That man there. See him. That man hatless. (...)To whom is he talking, man? Cant you see him? The man was indeed muttering to himself and peering balefully about the room wherein it seemed there was no friend to him."
I never said he was a metaphor or that he wasn't a being with a physical body, I said he wasn't there in the last chapter
I hadn't heard of Wendigoon until I finished this book and wanted to see what the discourse was and this fricker really just summarises the book while adding an extremely surface level commentary and how everytime the book is mentioned someone mentions his video. It's so shit.
McCarthy never describes the protagonist doing any of the vile shit that is done by the gang.
Which is easily translated to screen by just not showing the kid during any of the massacres etc.
Iirc the kid takes active part in a few things, at least one time the gang are run out of a town, I think when one of them is knifed in a bar and several of them run out into the street firing on everybody
The entire story is the kid being member of the gang but not fully devoted to the cause
In a metaphysical sense
The judge wins the souls of every man but one
Every man gives himself to the cause of war and death, but the kid doesn't
That's why the kid is not mentioned in the first massacre of the indians except at one point iirc - a wounded gang member steps towards him and the kid goes to help him, but glanton shoots him instead
Another time where the kid is charged with executing another wounded gang member, but lets him live
I'm sure the kid was there and doing bad things, but the fact that he's left out of the descriptive narrative suggests that his heart is not in it the way the rest of the gang's are
I read about production of a BM film earlier this year. I really doubt it will translate well, too many descriptions of landscapes and talks around campfires. The book does have a cinematic quality thanks to the detached perspective, but it's too prose heavy for a visual medium.
>What follows is a nautical picaresque through the Anglo-American unconscious featuring slippery banana peels, a floating feed and seed outlet, a mysterious wheelchair-bound French Sufi mystic, and cannibalistic Polynesians that click into digital voodoo. Whalespasms last for 40 hours or more. And this is just the beginning.
I want to be cynical, but I can't. I actually enjoy Douglas Adams and this sounds like something he'd write.
Nothing wrong morally speaking with selling drugs. It was pure and he didn't even mix it with fentanyl. As for the old friend's route, anything is preferable to embarrassing yourself and surrendering your masculinity.
> skipping the navigators and overall fleshing out of the political conflict > Leto II (I) and Alia not even being born in the second movie > removing any mention of jihad and any other unpalatable aspect of the fremen, so the moronic audience will find it easier to root for them > on that note, fremen are now some emancipated equal society with the fedaykin being represented by 2 scrawny women on screen > Farah also removed cause we can't have the wife of a dead guy being made to serve the killer > Liet-Kynes is a yass-queen political leader that also gets a heroic instead of a tragic end
what's worse is that apart from skipping the navigators, most of these changes seem pointed in a particular direction that has nothing to do with 'adapting means change' but evveyrthing to do with 'let's make this thing appeal more to modern sensibilities'
>ah, blood meridian, monsieur? that novel is the sark and chaparral of literature, the filament whereon rode the remuda of highbrow, corraled out of some destitute hacienda upon the arroya, quirting and splurting with main and with pyrolatrous coagulate of lobated grandiloquence. our eyes rode over the pages, monsieur, of that slatribed azotea like argonauts of suttee, juzgados of swole, bights and systoles of walleyed and tyrolean and carbolic and tectite and scurvid and querent and creosote and scapular malpais and shellalagh. we scalped, monsieur, the gantlet of its esker and led our naked bodies into the rebozos of its mennonite and siliceous fauna, wallowing in the jasper and the carnelian like archimandrites, teamsters, combers of cassinette scoria, centroids of holothurian chancre, with pizzles of enfiladed indigo panic grass in the saltbush of our vigas, true commodores of the written page, rebuses, monsieur, we were the mygale spiders too and the devonian and debouched pulque that settled on the frizzen studebakers, listening the wolves howling in the desert while we saw the judge rise out of a thicket of corbelled arches, whinstone, cairn, cholla, lemurs, femurs, leantos, moonblanched nacre, uncottered fistulas of groaning osnaburg and kelp, isomers of fluepipe and halms awap of griddle, guisado, pelancillo.
If they ever do adapt it I hope they actually cast The Judge to look like he's described in the novel instead of how he's always depicted in art. People always draw him like some brawny, masculine guy who's plainly psychotic even though he's described as being fat and having innocent, childlike features in the novel. The depiction in the novel is a lot more striking and creates a better contrast with his actions than just having him be a bald, tall Joker with black eyes.
That's why unironically matt lucas is great casting, he looks so childlike and jovial, it would be terrifying to see someone like that go full nothing behind the eyes.
Obviously needs some camera trickery and bodysuit to make him physical enough for the role.
But really, what are the odds you'll find a guy whos naturally 6"5 and 400 lbs and looks the part and can act?
It's a forgone conclusion they'd have to do some magic to get it to the proportions in the book.
It would be difficult to find any actor that perfectly matches the Judge's physical description. A massive 7' albino, but with small hands and feet. Childlike facial features. Totally devoid of body hair. No eye lashes, even. Best they could do is get someone that has the charisma and fill the gap with good camerawork, makeup and CGI.
The only time it could've been adapted was before it was even written. Pussy homosexuals would lose their shit at a fraction of the content in the book if they even had the attention span to read it. Even then it would probably get banned and labeled something on the level of the Turner Diaries.
If it can't be done or portrayed properly to every detail then it's not even worth ideating about, given how desperate these studios are for more IP to adapt and ruin.
The kid went along with Toadvine burning down a hotel right after they nearly killed one another in a drunken brawl. He shows a predilection for mindless violence and yet the Judge determines that he was never fully committed. So the Kid is somewhere in the middle. Up to the reader to decide. No film will please us all.
That was when he was still a young kid fricking around with friends, I know what you mean though but he does grow there's like a few years between the hotel burning and the judge telling him that.
The Kid only takes to carrying around a Bible he can't even read, and acting pious, after he's already damned. He participated in the massacres of innocent pueblo Indians just the same as the Glanton gang. He might not have juggled any baby heads for a joke, but he was right there guns blazing straight into the faces of the elderly, women, unarmed and surrendering men.
We don't know what the kid did, the gang did all of that the kid is omitted. We can say he did it because he was there, we can easily say he didn't do anything too because the book doesn't describe him doing anything he's just missing.
>unironically Denis Villeneuve, with studio advice to be more Prisoners Denis and less Dunc Denis >Pizzaman >Dan Laustsen >Howard Shore >Austin Butler, Vincent D'onofrio, Clancy Brown, David Dastmalchian, Ethan Hawke
>Villeuneuve
No. Hillcoat is already perfect for it. >Pizzaman
Okay, kino. >Lautsen
I like this. >Shore
I'd say more so the guy who did the Narcos soundtrack. You'll realize why when you listen to it. >Austin Butler
Good choice. I can see it working,. >Vincent d'onofrio
Replace him with Glenn Fleshler and it's great. >Clancy Brown
Too old. >Dastmalchian
Good. >Ethan Hawke
Pass.
his resume is a bit light and the Road was meh at best
3 months ago
Anonymous
Still the best McCarthy adaptation. McCarthy doesn't believe this unadaptable horseshit pedelled by fricking pseuds and trusted the guy with his work and him alone.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Still the best McCarthy adaptation
wewlad aren't you missing something here?
>Director
John Hillcoat, as old corncob intended >Screenwriter
John Hillcoat is also writing >Cinematography
I don't know any cinematographers lol, whoever did The Revenant >Editor
Same >Composer
Unironically Yuka Kitamura, Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 composer, imagine the composer behind Gael and Gierman's themes on this shit. >Actors to play The Kid, The Judge, Glanton, Toadvine, Tobin
Some unknown for the kid
Fleshler or d'onofrio for the Judge
Daniel Day Lewis as Glanton (sadly no chance) so maybe Christian Bale after that civil war film he did.
Brad Douriff as Toadvine (deadwood performance Holy shit)
Michael sheen (I think he comes across as kind and I always thought Tobin was very good at heart)
I watched this movie. Amazing stuff. Hillcoat is the guy. He just needs to cast Glenn Fleshler as The Judge. The rest of the cast could be whatever but the Judge needs to be perfect. If done right and on a small enough budget, BD could be fricking massive. Zoomers already latched on to it, some stealth marketing and a good enough movie is possible for a success.
Tried reading this last summer, maybe I am a manlet but I couldn't put up with the prose and didn't make it past the judge's second child victim.
Anyway, if the rest of the book is like that we're looking at a movie with too much exposition and very little action or drama.
has a steep learning curve, more than worth it though, mccarthy is one of the few authors who had the audacity to want his readers to raise their standards and apply themselves rather than dumbing himself down
I couldn't put it down
bros was the judge real? I guess we'll never know but he was based on chamberlains book >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Holden
This is the best live action Judge you're ever going to get. His appearance, his build, the way he speaks. It's perfection. If they don't get this guy, don't bother making it.
My dream is Miike directing this with white actors.
Serious tone like 13 Assassins but with a good dose of Jap-style autism for Severian.
Two movies, you could skip some of the stories (I love them but they'd wreck the pacing) and expand the war element. Show us some freaky butterfly valkyries and megafauna and refuse to explain any of the alien/Christian stuff, like borderline surrealism. Everyone looks and talks weird and it's all shot in murky red-tinged earth tones.
>checkmate atheist you'll never be able to adapt that poorly written 1200p thinly veiled christian fantasy egotrip that nobody with a normal BMI ever read ahah
I've seen this book hyped here for many years, finally found it in a book shop and got to read it and it's not that great, it's uncomfortably violent and has some surface level philosophy about evil and human nature. gotta say i expected more, maybe id have liked it more as an edgy teenager back when i actually saw the advertisement here.
I will point my finger down the trail, you will turn your head and I will transform your estrogen soaked brain into jello. Your scalp will be sold in markets of Chihuahua.
Yeah the bulk of it went over your head.
Unironically watch one of those israelitetube videos that explain what the constant references to paradise lost etc. mean.
It's a matter of scale. The Glanton gang commits genocide against an entire tribe of Indians, runs out of scalps to sell to the Mexicans, starts scalping Mexicans to sell their scalps to Mexicans, ends up in a running battle with the Mexican army, flees to the US, takes over a ferry, commences to rape rob and murder everyone using the ferry to travel to California. The violence is nonstop.
That's pretty much what I want from a blood Meridian movie. Two or three hours of ultraviolent scenes punctuated by the Judge's sermons. Fingers crossed!
They mean it's unfilmable because it's not profitable. It's a gamble with ultra violence especially now with how sacred the red man seems to be now. They never scalped anyone and they never dindu nuffin except cry about the environment in my goymercials.
The Glanton gang gets butchered by the Yuma Indians, the only ones who survive get hanged and then you have the Kid who gets raped and murdered by the Judge in an outhouse. The Judge himself is a supernatural being, likely an Archon, easily painted as literal white devil. It's just crazy enough to work.
Considering the reaction of witnesses to the scene in the jakes, the disappointment of the Judge with the kid, and damn well everything about the Judge's character it is safe to say he didn't give the kid an atta boy and a candy bar. Rape torture and murder is the most likely thing, or some cosmic horror shit. All of the above?
I'll give my thoughts even though they may be wrong. >Earlier in the chapter a little girl goes missing. >Later the man gets a prostitute but is unable to perform but instead starts sobbing. >the man gets drunk and needs to piss >goes to the outhouse and sees the judge.
I think the judge was showing the man how the inaction of man has led to the death and rape of the innocent. >2 guys show up that need to piss >the guy in a hat waiting outside the stall tells them don't go inside (I infer this man to be the protagonist).
Then there's the epilougue which I'm still trying to fricking decode, I have no idea what it means.
That's my 2 cents, it's probably wrong but that's how I see it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yeah, the same Judge who layed hands on a guy's head and caused it to start hemorrhaging blood probably gave the kid a cute little story as a parting gift.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The judge is capable of anything and everything. He's as violent as he wants to be and he's a charming sociopath too. I'm not saying nothing happened in the Jake's it's just possible to me that the man wasn't raped as most seem to think. I think the judge was in the outhouse with the girl that went missing and showed the man 1 last evil before parting ways.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The epilogue is men putting up fences for the US southern border.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>In the dawn there is a man progressing over the plain by means of holes which he is making in the ground. He uses an implement with two handles and he chucks it into the hole and he enkindles the stone in the hole with his steel hole by hole striking the fire out of the rock which God has put there. On the plain behind him are the wanderers in search of bones and those who do not search and they move haltingly in the light like mechanisms whose movements are monitored with escapement and pallet so that they appear restrained by a prudence or reflectiveness which has no inner reality and they cross in their progress one by one that track of holes that runs to the rim of the visible ground and which seems less the pursuit of some continuance than the verification of a principle, a validation of sequence and causality as if each round and perfect hole owed its existence to the one before it there on that prairie upon which are the bones and the gatherers of bones and those who do not gather. He strikes fire in the hole and draws out his steel. Then they all move on again.
I don't believe you
3 months ago
Anonymous
>In the dawn there is a man progressing over the plain by means of holes which he is making in the ground. He uses an implement with two handles and he chucks it into the hole and he enkindles the stone in the hole with his steel hole by hole striking the fire out of the rock which God has put there.
He is using a posthole digger.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I came to that conclusion as well but what about the other 2 following along?
3 months ago
Anonymous
maybe settlers moving into the west that is in the process of being civilized
3 months ago
Anonymous
Possible, we may never know.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The crickets and the rust-beetles scuttled among the nettles of the sage thicket. "Vámonos, amigos,” he whispered, and threw the busted leather flintcraw over the loose weave of the saddlewiener. And they rode on in the friscalating dusklight.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I don't remember this part.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ooops! that's because I mistakenly added punctuation marks. My bad. >The crickets and the rust-beetles scuttled among the nettles of the sage thicket Vámonos amigos he whispered and threw the busted leather flintcraw over the loose weave of the saddlewiener and they rode on in the friscalating dusklight.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>>The crickets and the rust-beetles scuttled among the nettles of the sage thicket.
Vámonos amigos he spat
and threw the busted leather flintcraw over the loose weave of the saddlewiener and they rode on in the friscalating dusklight.
Fixed it for ya.
>the judge is a gnostic archon
so tired of this basic b***h boring explaination. You really think McCarthy is that simple to just go "lol he's like a demon xD" no moron. The Judge is the most complex character I've ever come across
>You really think McCarthy is that simple to just go "lol he's like a demon xD"
The book opens with the Judge credibly being accused of being the devil. >noooo it can't be that simple because... it just can't okay???
Depending on who you ask, The Judge could be the antichrist, the ubermensch, the physical manifestation of human evil, or an archon servant of the demiurge. There just isn't a universal consensus on what Blood Meridian is about. Personally, though, the most compelling reading of The Judge is that he represents the human tendency to intellectualize and control. When we, as human beings, speak about the world, we partition it arbitrarily. We take the noumenal and divide it into distinct regions, when, yes, there is unironically a universal oneness in creation. An apple tree is not necessarily distinct from an apple, and both the apple and the apple tree are not necessarily distinct from the earth, or the air around it, since the apple tree needed nutrients from the earth and the air to grow the apple. They are intrinsically inseparable parts of a whole, but yet through language, we say that they're separate implicity. >"Even in this world more things exist without our knowledge than with it and the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way."
The Judge represents the human tendency to describe the world through the arbitrary cladistics of language. It's why he's a scientist and a lawyer, as both are professions that attempt to shunt linguistic models onto reality. As The Judge tells Toadvine, he aims to become the "suzerain of the earth" and control it, allowing nothing to be "autonomous", mirroring the human tendency to be fearful of the unknown, and to want to subjugate it with logic and language.
Depending on who you ask, The Judge could be the antichrist, the ubermensch, the physical manifestation of human evil, or an archon servant of the demiurge. There just isn't a universal consensus on what Blood Meridian is about. Personally, though, the most compelling reading of The Judge is that he represents the human tendency to intellectualize and control. When we, as human beings, speak about the world, we partition it arbitrarily. We take the noumenal and divide it into distinct regions, when, yes, there is unironically a universal oneness in creation. An apple tree is not necessarily distinct from an apple, and both the apple and the apple tree are not necessarily distinct from the earth, or the air around it, since the apple tree needed nutrients from the earth and the air to grow the apple. They are intrinsically inseparable parts of a whole, but yet through language, we say that they're separate implicity. >"Even in this world more things exist without our knowledge than with it and the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way."
The Judge represents the human tendency to describe the world through the arbitrary cladistics of language. It's why he's a scientist and a lawyer, as both are professions that attempt to shunt linguistic models onto reality. As The Judge tells Toadvine, he aims to become the "suzerain of the earth" and control it, allowing nothing to be "autonomous", mirroring the human tendency to be fearful of the unknown, and to want to subjugate it with logic and language.
>"The judge arched his brow. Did you post witnesses? he said. To report to you on the continuing existence of those places once you'd quit them"
McCarthy offers this human tendency that The Judge represents as the cause of evil and violence in the world. I'm going to start to sound like a liberal universalist English teacher so you'll have to bear with me. The use of language to describe the world allows us to describe foreign people-groups as inferiors and subhumans, giving us grounds on which to murder and exterminate them. This has been going on throughout history, with the violence on the western frontier, the "blood meridian", only being the latest iteration of this primordial cycle of violence and subjugation. >"He wore a round hat with a narrow brim and he was among every kind of man, herder and bullwhacker and drover and freighter and miner and hunter and soldier and pedlar and gambler and drifter and drunkard and thief and he was among the dregs of the earth in beggary a thousand years and he was among the scapegrace scions of eastern dynasties and in all that motley assemblage he sat by them and yet alone as if he were some other sort of man entire and he seemed little changed or none in all these years"
It's why the Judge is up-to-date on eugenics, >"He adduced for their consideration references to the children of Ham, the lost tribes of Israelites, certain passages from the Greek poets, anthropological speculations as to the propagation of the races in their dispersion and isolation through the agency of geological cataclysm and an assessment of racial traits with respect to climatic and geographical influences."
It's also why there's all those weird scenes of the Glanton gang "continuing autonomous without reference to sun or man or God" and stuff. They're the latest iteration of the primordial cycle.
Depending on who you ask, The Judge could be the antichrist, the ubermensch, the physical manifestation of human evil, or an archon servant of the demiurge. There just isn't a universal consensus on what Blood Meridian is about. Personally, though, the most compelling reading of The Judge is that he represents the human tendency to intellectualize and control. When we, as human beings, speak about the world, we partition it arbitrarily. We take the noumenal and divide it into distinct regions, when, yes, there is unironically a universal oneness in creation. An apple tree is not necessarily distinct from an apple, and both the apple and the apple tree are not necessarily distinct from the earth, or the air around it, since the apple tree needed nutrients from the earth and the air to grow the apple. They are intrinsically inseparable parts of a whole, but yet through language, we say that they're separate implicity. >"Even in this world more things exist without our knowledge than with it and the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way."
The Judge represents the human tendency to describe the world through the arbitrary cladistics of language. It's why he's a scientist and a lawyer, as both are professions that attempt to shunt linguistic models onto reality. As The Judge tells Toadvine, he aims to become the "suzerain of the earth" and control it, allowing nothing to be "autonomous", mirroring the human tendency to be fearful of the unknown, and to want to subjugate it with logic and language.
[...] >"The judge arched his brow. Did you post witnesses? he said. To report to you on the continuing existence of those places once you'd quit them"
McCarthy offers this human tendency that The Judge represents as the cause of evil and violence in the world. I'm going to start to sound like a liberal universalist English teacher so you'll have to bear with me. The use of language to describe the world allows us to describe foreign people-groups as inferiors and subhumans, giving us grounds on which to murder and exterminate them. This has been going on throughout history, with the violence on the western frontier, the "blood meridian", only being the latest iteration of this primordial cycle of violence and subjugation. >"He wore a round hat with a narrow brim and he was among every kind of man, herder and bullwhacker and drover and freighter and miner and hunter and soldier and pedlar and gambler and drifter and drunkard and thief and he was among the dregs of the earth in beggary a thousand years and he was among the scapegrace scions of eastern dynasties and in all that motley assemblage he sat by them and yet alone as if he were some other sort of man entire and he seemed little changed or none in all these years"
It's why the Judge is up-to-date on eugenics, >"He adduced for their consideration references to the children of Ham, the lost tribes of Israelites, certain passages from the Greek poets, anthropological speculations as to the propagation of the races in their dispersion and isolation through the agency of geological cataclysm and an assessment of racial traits with respect to climatic and geographical influences."
It's also why there's all those weird scenes of the Glanton gang "continuing autonomous without reference to sun or man or God" and stuff. They're the latest iteration of the primordial cycle.
The judge himself admits the impossibility of subjugating everything that is autonomous, as much as he exhorts the rest of the Glanton gang to. As he himself says, >"For existence has its own order and that no man's mind can compass, that mind itself being but a fact among others."
The judge's path is impossible. The world is too chaotic and inherently disordered to allow humans to know the world and become the "suzerains of the earth." The judge seems to know this, and perhaps even knows the consequences of the ideology he espouses, but doesn't care. This is what he monologues in the Anasazi Ruins, >"The way of the world is to bloom and to flower and die but in the affairs of men there is no waning and the noon of his expression signals the onset of night. His spirit is exhausted at the peak of its achievement. His meridian is at once his darkening and the evening of his day."
tl;dr (I know, I know, "r-REDDIT!" Shut up Black person) The Judge is the human capacity to classify and control.
frickin moron
>but but how do you do the gore
Not a problem
The problem is how you adapt the descriptive passages that envelope the story
I honestly don't think it would be that hard to do, provided you made it a miniseries
It would have to be one of those pretentious artistic pieces, spend a lot of time with zero dialogue, men riding through austere landscapes that go from beautiful to terrible to altogether something else entirely
>Start reading Blood Meridian because Americans act like it's the greatest piece of literature of all time >First page >"Wow this is written like shit" >Dropped >Never trust Americans opinions on anything ever again
the violence, the budget nor the run time would be the primary issue, it would be depicting Indians as the savages they were and the ambiguous ending which is a no go for any sizable budget
>dur hur blood merindian
The only reason why one would make a BM movie is because it's BM. The fact of it being itself is the meme. Dead on arrival. Let it remain vaporware.
>this book is LE EDGY >it's too LE DARK to be LE ADAPTED
Then you read it and the dark and edgy parts are just some ethnic cleansing and the judge is an implied pedophile. I swear this book must've been covered by some YouTube troony who's fed everyone lines to repeat ad nauseum
The Man (aka The Kid) rapes and kill the little girl in the outhouse after he can't get it up with the prostitute.
After he warns the other guy not to go inside.
The Kid is responsible for the little girls disappearances throughout the book.
I hope you eat shit, die, are rendered down into dogfood, are eaten by dogs, and then get shat out right in front of Denis The Menace and he steps on you and gets shit all over his shoes.
How do you adapt babies having their heads caved in?
hire the edgelord who directed a serbian film
i saw a baby get smashed against a wall and die in a film made fairly recently. Its definitely possible to have something that nasty but most directors would definitely be too pussy to include it.
By not going full noe and not showing the skulls get smashed in closeup repeatedly.
Just show mcgill or whoever it was walking to the wall and make the motion and have a nice wet plop soundeffect but his body blocks the view.
sounds hella gay
In the book of American Psycho a woman in nailed to the floor, her tongue is cut out and then Bateman facefricks her while spraying her eyes with mace.
You just cut it or substitute it with something toned down and more film friendly.
In The Witch the old hag butter churns a baby out of frame then rubs the mash all over her naked body to turn young again. Nothing is unfilmable if you don't actual film it.
B.M is easily adaptable; just not the whole thing. Either miniseries or pick a section for a movie.
Africa
Put a body cam on an IDF member ig
>adapted perfectly
have a nice day, shill.
False, and false.
>Timothy Chalamet as The Kid
>Austin Butler as The Judge
Not a dry seat in the house. We're talking Barbie numbers.
Glenn Fleshler should be the Judge but I'd take Chalamet as the Kid. He doesn't need to put some amazing performance in it, just be there and then get raped to death by the Judge in the end which his twink ass should be accustomed to by now.
>get raped to death by the Judge in the end
Filtered, the judge wasn't in the last chapter, the kid raped the girl
I'm aware but if they cast Chalamet, they'd have to go with the assrape-to-death ending. like that one gore anime scene I watched back in 2011.
You were filtered. Firstly the ending is ambiguous for the kid, secondly everything written in the book up to that point suggests the kid is killed by the Judge.
Child rape/murder is something that the Judge is linked to throughout, and then additionally the kid has a "showdown" with the Judge shortly before where he rejects his philosophy and belittles him.
Don't even try saying the Judge was a metaphor. He is clearly a being with a physical body throughout the book.
>Starts calling the kid the man in the last chapter, makes a point of saying he took his hat off and that there is a mirror behind the bar
>"Look at them now. Pick a man, any man. That man there. See him. That man hatless. (...)To whom is he talking, man? Cant you see him? The man was indeed muttering to himself and peering balefully about the room wherein it seemed there was no friend to him."
I never said he was a metaphor or that he wasn't a being with a physical body, I said he wasn't there in the last chapter
Based on Hillcoat movies, The Kid is probably someone like Keoghan.
A masterpiece from Wendigoon
I hadn't heard of Wendigoon until I finished this book and wanted to see what the discourse was and this fricker really just summarises the book while adding an extremely surface level commentary and how everytime the book is mentioned someone mentions his video. It's so shit.
How do you adapt them making piss bullets in a volcano
PISS MAN! PISS!
Which is easily translated to screen by just not showing the kid during any of the massacres etc.
Iirc the kid takes active part in a few things, at least one time the gang are run out of a town, I think when one of them is knifed in a bar and several of them run out into the street firing on everybody
you think the kid is just standing there like a moron while the rest of the gang is scalping babies?
We can't say. Most of the kid's actions described in the novel are usually honorable, like not abandoning people.
>The judge watched him. Was it always your idea, he said, that if you did not speak you
would not be recognized?
terrible image of the judge. the judge wouldnt be lean at all
The entire story is the kid being member of the gang but not fully devoted to the cause
In a metaphysical sense
The judge wins the souls of every man but one
Every man gives himself to the cause of war and death, but the kid doesn't
That's why the kid is not mentioned in the first massacre of the indians except at one point iirc - a wounded gang member steps towards him and the kid goes to help him, but glanton shoots him instead
Another time where the kid is charged with executing another wounded gang member, but lets him live
I'm sure the kid was there and doing bad things, but the fact that he's left out of the descriptive narrative suggests that his heart is not in it the way the rest of the gang's are
I read about production of a BM film earlier this year. I really doubt it will translate well, too many descriptions of landscapes and talks around campfires. The book does have a cinematic quality thanks to the detached perspective, but it's too prose heavy for a visual medium.
If they get the casting of the Judge right, the rest should logically work or even if not the guy playing the Judge will stand out.
some of the Jude speeches around campfires would work well and when he throws the coin into the darkness and it comes back
Read another book
I already read The Road two books is enough for a lifetime
Read Moby Dick
read the Cinemaphile annotated edition of Moby Dick
https://www.lulu.com/shop/herman-melville-and-anonymous/moby-dick/paperback/product-7wgny7.html
>What follows is a nautical picaresque through the Anglo-American unconscious featuring slippery banana peels, a floating feed and seed outlet, a mysterious wheelchair-bound French Sufi mystic, and cannibalistic Polynesians that click into digital voodoo. Whalespasms last for 40 hours or more. And this is just the beginning.
I want to be cynical, but I can't. I actually enjoy Douglas Adams and this sounds like something he'd write.
Is there a free download available? Epub would be amazing. Thanks.
there's a pdf on libgen
ebook is free on that link
it's not that great
also
>a whale is a fish
I already read Infinite Jest and Gravitys Rainbow three books is enough for a lifetime
Isn't the protagonist of the book kind of a piece of shit?
he's definitely not a wholesome chungus. are you trans by any chance?
The protagonist is probably the most righteous character
The ex-priest wasn't as bad compared to the rest of them.
McCarthy never describes the protagonist doing any of the vile shit that is done by the gang.
>kick this Black person in the face
>oh come on! kick him honey!
The kid burns down the hotel at the start. Not exactly a good lad
Nowhere is it written that you must like the protagonist, pleb.
Yeah, if the character isn't morally good, there's no way it'll catch on!
Walt did nothing wrong
Except sell meth to meet his needs, meanwhile he had an option to not do any of that and all he had to do was talk with his old friends.
Nothing wrong morally speaking with selling drugs. It was pure and he didn't even mix it with fentanyl. As for the old friend's route, anything is preferable to embarrassing yourself and surrendering your masculinity.
>muh masculinity
You speak like a troony.
Kind of but also not really which is why the antagonist hates him
He’s an illiterate Irish kid who becomes pretty much a non entity bar a couple passages and the ending after chapter 4 or whatever
He's a reasonably decent guy who falls in with some bad characters and then goes with the flow.
>Is now adapted perfectly
How much are they paying these days to say this homosexualry and sell this slop, $6/h?
what about the two films did it not adapt perfectly from the books
have a nice day SHILL
I accept your concession
> skipping the navigators and overall fleshing out of the political conflict
> Leto II (I) and Alia not even being born in the second movie
> removing any mention of jihad and any other unpalatable aspect of the fremen, so the moronic audience will find it easier to root for them
> on that note, fremen are now some emancipated equal society with the fedaykin being represented by 2 scrawny women on screen
> Farah also removed cause we can't have the wife of a dead guy being made to serve the killer
> Liet-Kynes is a yass-queen political leader that also gets a heroic instead of a tragic end
what's worse is that apart from skipping the navigators, most of these changes seem pointed in a particular direction that has nothing to do with 'adapting means change' but evveyrthing to do with 'let's make this thing appeal more to modern sensibilities'
You replied to a baiting shill.
that's nothing, cry more you'll never get a faitfull adaptation of ANY book except maybe that incest furry fanfic you wrote a couple years ago
What the FRICK was his problem?
White women too ascared of his giant white dick. Many such cases.
nothing he simply wanted to play his fiddle and let people dance to his happy tunes
>noooooo you cant just stop dancing when you feel like it reeeeeee
sounds like you need a trip to the outhouse anon
>ah, blood meridian, monsieur? that novel is the sark and chaparral of literature, the filament whereon rode the remuda of highbrow, corraled out of some destitute hacienda upon the arroya, quirting and splurting with main and with pyrolatrous coagulate of lobated grandiloquence. our eyes rode over the pages, monsieur, of that slatribed azotea like argonauts of suttee, juzgados of swole, bights and systoles of walleyed and tyrolean and carbolic and tectite and scurvid and querent and creosote and scapular malpais and shellalagh. we scalped, monsieur, the gantlet of its esker and led our naked bodies into the rebozos of its mennonite and siliceous fauna, wallowing in the jasper and the carnelian like archimandrites, teamsters, combers of cassinette scoria, centroids of holothurian chancre, with pizzles of enfiladed indigo panic grass in the saltbush of our vigas, true commodores of the written page, rebuses, monsieur, we were the mygale spiders too and the devonian and debouched pulque that settled on the frizzen studebakers, listening the wolves howling in the desert while we saw the judge rise out of a thicket of corbelled arches, whinstone, cairn, cholla, lemurs, femurs, leantos, moonblanched nacre, uncottered fistulas of groaning osnaburg and kelp, isomers of fluepipe and halms awap of griddle, guisado, pelancillo.
thanks for the laugh
>adapted perfectly
Yeah, in 1984
>Is now adapted perfectly
The Judge smiled
If they ever do adapt it I hope they actually cast The Judge to look like he's described in the novel instead of how he's always depicted in art. People always draw him like some brawny, masculine guy who's plainly psychotic even though he's described as being fat and having innocent, childlike features in the novel. The depiction in the novel is a lot more striking and creates a better contrast with his actions than just having him be a bald, tall Joker with black eyes.
That's why unironically matt lucas is great casting, he looks so childlike and jovial, it would be terrifying to see someone like that go full nothing behind the eyes.
>Height: 1.69m
It's over, nobody will be able to take him seriously on set
Obviously needs some camera trickery and bodysuit to make him physical enough for the role.
But really, what are the odds you'll find a guy whos naturally 6"5 and 400 lbs and looks the part and can act?
It's a forgone conclusion they'd have to do some magic to get it to the proportions in the book.
mayor KANE, the big red moron could pull off the judge
This. The Judge should look like a giant serene baby
I'd like to see Von Trier direct this.
Not happening, it's been over for him for a while.
his Parkinsons has worsened and he probably won't direct anymore.
>is now
you misspelled 'was in 2000'
Verification not required.
He says that he will never die
It's in preproduction. John Hillcoat (The Road) to direct. We shall see.
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0983189/
The kino that could have been...
Honestly, he's got the right face for it if nothing else.
Did they not confirm that John Hill coat was doing it?
The real question, Glenn or Vincent?
Neither tbh
Both great actors but both have this "mean" quality to their faces.
>mean
So... they are both perfect?
It would be difficult to find any actor that perfectly matches the Judge's physical description. A massive 7' albino, but with small hands and feet. Childlike facial features. Totally devoid of body hair. No eye lashes, even. Best they could do is get someone that has the charisma and fill the gap with good camerawork, makeup and CGI.
Did he have small hands? He picks up a fricking canon in the end of the book though.
Yes he has small hands, yes he picks up a howitzer. He does all kinds of weird shit. Read chapter 10.
not fat enough
If this guy could learn to act, he'd be perfect.
POV Black Jackson in one of the Judge's occult rituals.
He is swimming, swimming
He says that he will never drown.
The dune movie is OK, I wouldn't say it's perfect. Its a lot more brown than I imagined it would have been.
The only time it could've been adapted was before it was even written. Pussy homosexuals would lose their shit at a fraction of the content in the book if they even had the attention span to read it. Even then it would probably get banned and labeled something on the level of the Turner Diaries.
If it can't be done or portrayed properly to every detail then it's not even worth ideating about, given how desperate these studios are for more IP to adapt and ruin.
read another book already
You could just ignore things you don't like or want to talk about anon.
the problem is with you, in how you people completely misinterpret the story and treat it as genre fiction. read another book.
>NO U!
compelling
I have read Blood Meridian 6 times and I have listened to the audio book another 4 times. There is no other book, you fool. There never will be.
only outer dark
>Hominem unius libri timeo
Glanton spat
and sat his horse
>HACK AWAY, YOU MEAN RED Black person
>never read
>know nothing about films
>THIS BOOK IS UNFILMABLE
In my head the kid is capable of the worst shit imaginable if he had to face up against it. That said I don't believe he scalped anybody.
The kid went along with Toadvine burning down a hotel right after they nearly killed one another in a drunken brawl. He shows a predilection for mindless violence and yet the Judge determines that he was never fully committed. So the Kid is somewhere in the middle. Up to the reader to decide. No film will please us all.
That was when he was still a young kid fricking around with friends, I know what you mean though but he does grow there's like a few years between the hotel burning and the judge telling him that.
The Kid only takes to carrying around a Bible he can't even read, and acting pious, after he's already damned. He participated in the massacres of innocent pueblo Indians just the same as the Glanton gang. He might not have juggled any baby heads for a joke, but he was right there guns blazing straight into the faces of the elderly, women, unarmed and surrendering men.
We don't know what the kid did, the gang did all of that the kid is omitted. We can say he did it because he was there, we can easily say he didn't do anything too because the book doesn't describe him doing anything he's just missing.
you get a unlimited budget to make Blood Meridian so who will be your
>Director
>Screenwriter
>Cinematography
>Editor
>Composer
>Actors to play The Kid, The Judge, Glanton, Toadvine, Tobin
???
>unironically Denis Villeneuve, with studio advice to be more Prisoners Denis and less Dunc Denis
>Pizzaman
>Dan Laustsen
>Howard Shore
>Austin Butler, Vincent D'onofrio, Clancy Brown, David Dastmalchian, Ethan Hawke
Damnit forgot about the editor but probably Fred Raskin
>Villeuneuve
No. Hillcoat is already perfect for it.
>Pizzaman
Okay, kino.
>Lautsen
I like this.
>Shore
I'd say more so the guy who did the Narcos soundtrack. You'll realize why when you listen to it.
>Austin Butler
Good choice. I can see it working,.
>Vincent d'onofrio
Replace him with Glenn Fleshler and it's great.
>Clancy Brown
Too old.
>Dastmalchian
Good.
>Ethan Hawke
Pass.
>Hillcoat is already perfect for it.
huh
You don't need some fricking hack Reddit director, you need a good one like Hillcoat who's cost efficient and smart.
his resume is a bit light and the Road was meh at best
Still the best McCarthy adaptation. McCarthy doesn't believe this unadaptable horseshit pedelled by fricking pseuds and trusted the guy with his work and him alone.
>Still the best McCarthy adaptation
wewlad aren't you missing something here?
I chose Shore for the ring laitmotiv. He could come up with some seductively evil melodies for the Judge's fiddle.
If Clancy is too old, then Jon Berthal.
>Christopher Nolan
>Aaron Sorkin
>John Mathieson
>John Ottman
>Michael Giacchino
>Tom Holland, Kathy Bates, Mark Ruffalo, Daniel Day-Lewis, Michael Ajao
>Director
John Hillcoat, as old corncob intended
>Screenwriter
John Hillcoat is also writing
>Cinematography
I don't know any cinematographers lol, whoever did The Revenant
>Editor
Same
>Composer
Unironically Yuka Kitamura, Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 composer, imagine the composer behind Gael and Gierman's themes on this shit.
>Actors to play The Kid, The Judge, Glanton, Toadvine, Tobin
Some unknown for the kid
Fleshler or d'onofrio for the Judge
Daniel Day Lewis as Glanton (sadly no chance) so maybe Christian Bale after that civil war film he did.
Brad Douriff as Toadvine (deadwood performance Holy shit)
Michael sheen (I think he comes across as kind and I always thought Tobin was very good at heart)
>christian bale
you're thinkin Hostiles, and yeah I agree he'd be ideal
>The Kid
Elliott Page
>The Judge
Deborah Wilson
Watch The Proposition and tell me why John Hillcoat shouldn't adapt BM and why Danny Huston shouldn't play the judge.
I Goddamn dare you.
I watched this movie. Amazing stuff. Hillcoat is the guy. He just needs to cast Glenn Fleshler as The Judge. The rest of the cast could be whatever but the Judge needs to be perfect. If done right and on a small enough budget, BD could be fricking massive. Zoomers already latched on to it, some stealth marketing and a good enough movie is possible for a success.
Tried reading this last summer, maybe I am a manlet but I couldn't put up with the prose and didn't make it past the judge's second child victim.
Anyway, if the rest of the book is like that we're looking at a movie with too much exposition and very little action or drama.
You're missing out honestly but I get what you mean. It's a hard read due to the themes and sometimes Cormac just goes on forever.
Try the audiobook, McCarthy's lack of punctuation and whatnot makes for a hard read. The audiobook has a phenomenal narration.
has a steep learning curve, more than worth it though, mccarthy is one of the few authors who had the audacity to want his readers to raise their standards and apply themselves rather than dumbing himself down
I couldn't put it down
bros was the judge real? I guess we'll never know but he was based on chamberlains book
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judge_Holden
Chamberlain's description of the Judge is fricking eerie. McCarthy did very little embellishment of him.
>Who or what he was no one knew but a cooler blooded villain never went unhung.
>Is now adapted perfectly
This is the best live action Judge you're ever going to get. His appearance, his build, the way he speaks. It's perfection. If they don't get this guy, don't bother making it.
>beware kid....four things will ruin the world.... white men, heterosexuality, testosterone, and capitalism....
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0983189/?ref_=nm_flmg_unrel_1_dr
IT IS TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT BLOOD MERIDIAN IS SHIT
The one that gets me is Call of Cthulhu, because it's one of the most EASILY adaptable things I've read.
Cool but who can adapt this baby
Never read it. What's it about? What makes it unfilmable?
It's a Christian book
Alright you have my attention.
Too niche. No one outside these circles knows this exists. RIP Gene.
>random sf/fantasy slop n°64684135184
From the name and the cover I would guess Uwe Boll? Maybe Paul w.s. anderson.
Elizabeth Debicki as the Chatelaine Thecla
My dream is Miike directing this with white actors.
Serious tone like 13 Assassins but with a good dose of Jap-style autism for Severian.
Two movies, you could skip some of the stories (I love them but they'd wreck the pacing) and expand the war element. Show us some freaky butterfly valkyries and megafauna and refuse to explain any of the alien/Christian stuff, like borderline surrealism. Everyone looks and talks weird and it's all shot in murky red-tinged earth tones.
It is time indeed, and but so it's actually my time.
compelling, but who can adapt this?
Martin Scorsese
>checkmate atheist you'll never be able to adapt that poorly written 1200p thinly veiled christian fantasy egotrip that nobody with a normal BMI ever read ahah
I've seen this book hyped here for many years, finally found it in a book shop and got to read it and it's not that great, it's uncomfortably violent and has some surface level philosophy about evil and human nature. gotta say i expected more, maybe id have liked it more as an edgy teenager back when i actually saw the advertisement here.
>uncomfortably violent
homosexual
i know you 24 year olds with a diet of ukraine war vids, isis executions and rotten.com think you're hot shit but you'll see when you grow up.
I will point my finger down the trail, you will turn your head and I will transform your estrogen soaked brain into jello. Your scalp will be sold in markets of Chihuahua.
This thread and the explosion of the book's popularity is because of reddit.
Yeah the bulk of it went over your head.
Unironically watch one of those israelitetube videos that explain what the constant references to paradise lost etc. mean.
Is there anything worse in BM than in bone tomahawk?
No.
So what's with all the moronic "its too violent to be adapted" arguments?
how are they going to show children and babies being viciously murdered?
I think smashing a babby against a wall is less traumatizing than seeing a woman turned into a blind rapestump.
What about raping screaming dying men's fleshwounds?
That's the kind of violence americans are OK with.
It's a matter of scale. The Glanton gang commits genocide against an entire tribe of Indians, runs out of scalps to sell to the Mexicans, starts scalping Mexicans to sell their scalps to Mexicans, ends up in a running battle with the Mexican army, flees to the US, takes over a ferry, commences to rape rob and murder everyone using the ferry to travel to California. The violence is nonstop.
>The violence is nonstop.
I mean... it is kind of broken up by 20 pages of mygale spiders and lobated grandiloquence per act of violence.
That's pretty much what I want from a blood Meridian movie. Two or three hours of ultraviolent scenes punctuated by the Judge's sermons. Fingers crossed!
They mean it's unfilmable because it's not profitable. It's a gamble with ultra violence especially now with how sacred the red man seems to be now. They never scalped anyone and they never dindu nuffin except cry about the environment in my goymercials.
The Glanton gang gets butchered by the Yuma Indians, the only ones who survive get hanged and then you have the Kid who gets raped and murdered by the Judge in an outhouse. The Judge himself is a supernatural being, likely an Archon, easily painted as literal white devil. It's just crazy enough to work.
Yeah glanton gets fricked
No, we don't know what happened in the outhouse.
Yes the judge is used as a mystical allegory.
Considering the reaction of witnesses to the scene in the jakes, the disappointment of the Judge with the kid, and damn well everything about the Judge's character it is safe to say he didn't give the kid an atta boy and a candy bar. Rape torture and murder is the most likely thing, or some cosmic horror shit. All of the above?
I'll give my thoughts even though they may be wrong.
>Earlier in the chapter a little girl goes missing.
>Later the man gets a prostitute but is unable to perform but instead starts sobbing.
>the man gets drunk and needs to piss
>goes to the outhouse and sees the judge.
I think the judge was showing the man how the inaction of man has led to the death and rape of the innocent.
>2 guys show up that need to piss
>the guy in a hat waiting outside the stall tells them don't go inside (I infer this man to be the protagonist).
Then there's the epilougue which I'm still trying to fricking decode, I have no idea what it means.
That's my 2 cents, it's probably wrong but that's how I see it.
Yeah, the same Judge who layed hands on a guy's head and caused it to start hemorrhaging blood probably gave the kid a cute little story as a parting gift.
The judge is capable of anything and everything. He's as violent as he wants to be and he's a charming sociopath too. I'm not saying nothing happened in the Jake's it's just possible to me that the man wasn't raped as most seem to think. I think the judge was in the outhouse with the girl that went missing and showed the man 1 last evil before parting ways.
The epilogue is men putting up fences for the US southern border.
>In the dawn there is a man progressing over the plain by means of holes which he is making in the ground. He uses an implement with two handles and he chucks it into the hole and he enkindles the stone in the hole with his steel hole by hole striking the fire out of the rock which God has put there. On the plain behind him are the wanderers in search of bones and those who do not search and they move haltingly in the light like mechanisms whose movements are monitored with escapement and pallet so that they appear restrained by a prudence or reflectiveness which has no inner reality and they cross in their progress one by one that track of holes that runs to the rim of the visible ground and which seems less the pursuit of some continuance than the verification of a principle, a validation of sequence and causality as if each round and perfect hole owed its existence to the one before it there on that prairie upon which are the bones and the gatherers of bones and those who do not gather. He strikes fire in the hole and draws out his steel. Then they all move on again.
I don't believe you
>In the dawn there is a man progressing over the plain by means of holes which he is making in the ground. He uses an implement with two handles and he chucks it into the hole and he enkindles the stone in the hole with his steel hole by hole striking the fire out of the rock which God has put there.
He is using a posthole digger.
I came to that conclusion as well but what about the other 2 following along?
maybe settlers moving into the west that is in the process of being civilized
Possible, we may never know.
>The crickets and the rust-beetles scuttled among the nettles of the sage thicket. "Vámonos, amigos,” he whispered, and threw the busted leather flintcraw over the loose weave of the saddlewiener. And they rode on in the friscalating dusklight.
I don't remember this part.
Ooops! that's because I mistakenly added punctuation marks. My bad.
>The crickets and the rust-beetles scuttled among the nettles of the sage thicket Vámonos amigos he whispered and threw the busted leather flintcraw over the loose weave of the saddlewiener and they rode on in the friscalating dusklight.
>>The crickets and the rust-beetles scuttled among the nettles of the sage thicket.
Vámonos amigos he spat
and threw the busted leather flintcraw over the loose weave of the saddlewiener and they rode on in the friscalating dusklight.
Fixed it for ya.
>the judge is a gnostic archon
so tired of this basic b***h boring explaination. You really think McCarthy is that simple to just go "lol he's like a demon xD" no moron. The Judge is the most complex character I've ever come across
>You really think McCarthy is that simple to just go "lol he's like a demon xD"
The book opens with the Judge credibly being accused of being the devil.
>noooo it can't be that simple because... it just can't okay???
Depending on who you ask, The Judge could be the antichrist, the ubermensch, the physical manifestation of human evil, or an archon servant of the demiurge. There just isn't a universal consensus on what Blood Meridian is about. Personally, though, the most compelling reading of The Judge is that he represents the human tendency to intellectualize and control. When we, as human beings, speak about the world, we partition it arbitrarily. We take the noumenal and divide it into distinct regions, when, yes, there is unironically a universal oneness in creation. An apple tree is not necessarily distinct from an apple, and both the apple and the apple tree are not necessarily distinct from the earth, or the air around it, since the apple tree needed nutrients from the earth and the air to grow the apple. They are intrinsically inseparable parts of a whole, but yet through language, we say that they're separate implicity.
>"Even in this world more things exist without our knowledge than with it and the order in creation which you see is that which you have put there, like a string in a maze, so that you shall not lose your way."
The Judge represents the human tendency to describe the world through the arbitrary cladistics of language. It's why he's a scientist and a lawyer, as both are professions that attempt to shunt linguistic models onto reality. As The Judge tells Toadvine, he aims to become the "suzerain of the earth" and control it, allowing nothing to be "autonomous", mirroring the human tendency to be fearful of the unknown, and to want to subjugate it with logic and language.
>"The judge arched his brow. Did you post witnesses? he said. To report to you on the continuing existence of those places once you'd quit them"
McCarthy offers this human tendency that The Judge represents as the cause of evil and violence in the world. I'm going to start to sound like a liberal universalist English teacher so you'll have to bear with me. The use of language to describe the world allows us to describe foreign people-groups as inferiors and subhumans, giving us grounds on which to murder and exterminate them. This has been going on throughout history, with the violence on the western frontier, the "blood meridian", only being the latest iteration of this primordial cycle of violence and subjugation.
>"He wore a round hat with a narrow brim and he was among every kind of man, herder and bullwhacker and drover and freighter and miner and hunter and soldier and pedlar and gambler and drifter and drunkard and thief and he was among the dregs of the earth in beggary a thousand years and he was among the scapegrace scions of eastern dynasties and in all that motley assemblage he sat by them and yet alone as if he were some other sort of man entire and he seemed little changed or none in all these years"
It's why the Judge is up-to-date on eugenics,
>"He adduced for their consideration references to the children of Ham, the lost tribes of Israelites, certain passages from the Greek poets, anthropological speculations as to the propagation of the races in their dispersion and isolation through the agency of geological cataclysm and an assessment of racial traits with respect to climatic and geographical influences."
It's also why there's all those weird scenes of the Glanton gang "continuing autonomous without reference to sun or man or God" and stuff. They're the latest iteration of the primordial cycle.
The judge himself admits the impossibility of subjugating everything that is autonomous, as much as he exhorts the rest of the Glanton gang to. As he himself says,
>"For existence has its own order and that no man's mind can compass, that mind itself being but a fact among others."
The judge's path is impossible. The world is too chaotic and inherently disordered to allow humans to know the world and become the "suzerains of the earth." The judge seems to know this, and perhaps even knows the consequences of the ideology he espouses, but doesn't care. This is what he monologues in the Anasazi Ruins,
>"The way of the world is to bloom and to flower and die but in the affairs of men there is no waning and the noon of his expression signals the onset of night. His spirit is exhausted at the peak of its achievement. His meridian is at once his darkening and the evening of his day."
tl;dr (I know, I know, "r-REDDIT!" Shut up Black person) The Judge is the human capacity to classify and control.
frickin moron
James Franco should always be ashamed for that shit scene he directed trying to get the project of the ground
>but but how do you do the gore
Not a problem
The problem is how you adapt the descriptive passages that envelope the story
I honestly don't think it would be that hard to do, provided you made it a miniseries
It would have to be one of those pretentious artistic pieces, spend a lot of time with zero dialogue, men riding through austere landscapes that go from beautiful to terrible to altogether something else entirely
Dune is just spaceships on a desert what moron ever called it unfilmable
>Start reading Blood Meridian because Americans act like it's the greatest piece of literature of all time
>First page
>"Wow this is written like shit"
>Dropped
>Never trust Americans opinions on anything ever again
True story
filtered
>B-But it's meant to be written like shit! It's a stylistic choice!
Uh huh.
I'll just read something better, thanks
See ya tomorrow anon!
thank you fellow evropean, i knew i wasnt the only one. yank homiez be like theres nobody else but them on this rock.
the violence, the budget nor the run time would be the primary issue, it would be depicting Indians as the savages they were and the ambiguous ending which is a no go for any sizable budget
Anybkdybread the epilouge and maybe wanna try to explain it to me? It sounds cool I just don't know what the frick Cormac was thinking.
>dur hur blood merindian
The only reason why one would make a BM movie is because it's BM. The fact of it being itself is the meme. Dead on arrival. Let it remain vaporware.
the kino would be unfathomable
anyone read "my confession: recollections of a rogue" that BM was based on?
lol what
the boys is more gorey than that
but also 10x as israeli
Frick off DUNC shills
Who ever claimed dune, specially the first book, was unadaptable?
OP.
DUH!
Can't be done because it's too racist
>this book is LE EDGY
>it's too LE DARK to be LE ADAPTED
Then you read it and the dark and edgy parts are just some ethnic cleansing and the judge is an implied pedophile. I swear this book must've been covered by some YouTube troony who's fed everyone lines to repeat ad nauseum
stop playing dumb anon. you look like a little kid trying to act like he doesnt know what hes talking about
The Man (aka The Kid) rapes and kill the little girl in the outhouse after he can't get it up with the prostitute.
After he warns the other guy not to go inside.
The Kid is responsible for the little girls disappearances throughout the book.
Prove it in your own words.
No.
>they is only four things that can ruin the earth
>money
>women
>whiskey
>and Black folk
How would you rewrite this bit of dialog?
>hack away, you oppressed individual of the indigenous nations!
Doesn't quite roll off your tongue like
>MEAN RED Black person
>perfectly
>multiple plotlines cut
>multiple characters cut
>entire factions cut
>remaining characters changed beyond all recognition
>perfectly
I hope you eat shit, die, are rendered down into dogfood, are eaten by dogs, and then get shat out right in front of Denis The Menace and he steps on you and gets shit all over his shoes.
>perfectly
lmfao what a pleb.
I just realized, are the Dunc movies the first time Josh Brolin and Javier Bardem have been on a project together since No Country for Old Men?
>I didn't threaten him. I told him I'd whip his ass and that's as good as notarized.
What actor could pull off a lunatic killer like Davy Brown?