Early versions of characters: Judy Hopps from Zootopia was originally more of an antagonist: one of the movie makers called her "The Man" of the system. Also she had a tuft of hair on her head.
Early versions of characters: Judy Hopps from Zootopia was originally more of an antagonist: one of the movie makers called her "The Man" of the system. Also she had a tuft of hair on her head.
Mei from Turning Red was originally conceived as a character with a dual life: one with her mother and another with her friends. The final version of the character was more unified.
Wasn't she originally going to be a guy though? I could have sworn that was the case
Not sure why they didn't go with that at all. That kinda does reflect how teenagers with strict parents act after all
Supposedly Mei's characterization was changed because Domee Shi felt it was more accurate to her life to show a character who didn't delineate her life as much
Sex, with both.
>Pixar presents "Ne Zha"
So... she was originally more of a bawd.
Isn't she still?
She doesn't even frick in the movie
>he didnt see the dvd extras
I've also heard her name was supposed to be "Fei Fei" but then Over The Moon happened
The early version sucked and was depressing. It wasn't good and it wasn't edgy. It was a world you did not want to root for and you wanted the predators to rise up and eat all the fricking israelite prey for the system being so fricked.
there was deep meaning behind it, you just dont get it
I think the meaning behind the original pitch was about how despite dressing up in suits and conducting yourself formally, deep down we're all still animals with animal whims. We need to let ourselves be animals sometimes and go wild and be destructive. Keeping all that energy pent up makes us miserable. Original Nick offered a way to safely satisfy a predator's needs to hunt.
Instead we got Crash for kids.
It wasn't like that. You root for the characters instead of the world. You'd want Nick and Judy to escape the system and live away from Zootopia. Obviously Disney didn't want the city to be viewed as the enemy even though every dystopian story is about characters NOT saving the world but instead saving themselves from the world. Disney doesn't like that kind of nuance.
Judy was originally a boy.
Or at the very least, a proto-version of Zootopia, a spy film, had a male rabbit as the main character.
damn -_- i wish we lived in a world where canon gayness happened instead of straight furs getting a win
>instead of straight furs getting a win
Seethe gay. Wildehopps forever.
People draw gay Nick more often anyway.
lmao
Top middle one is better than the final design, honestly I wish studios would stop putting out bald anthro characters.
>final product removes eyelashes
It's all so tiresome
Implying final Judy wasn't perfect?
perfectly androgynous
Her ass though
If only the eyelashes and bit of hair in her head remained...
That's just the eternal Hollywood struggle of trying to "empower women" while simultaneously implying that anything inherently feminine is bad and weak.
That being said, c'mon dude final Judy still looks feminine as hell, and you've got Gazelle too.
I hope gazelle appears more often
I wish they would bring in Skye
villain judy hopps does things to my dick
If Zootopia were made by the same idiots who did Wish, they'd go with that early draft with no self awareness whatsoever.
You should see Pixar reacting to it, hilarious stuff
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Doxxy made it better
>Even in an early pitch, Hopps and Nick had a great buddy dynamic. But I really wanted to tell this story because it's about bias and prejudice. It's important to discuss.
Ugh, frick Josie Trinidad. Kick her to the curb with Jennifer Lee.
Also Judy was originally supposed to be voiced by Katherine Heigl, but then we found out she was a massive b***h and they used Ginnifer Goodwin for OUAT synergy.
It's weird they use the word "bias" in this way. Kind of euphemistic. Don't know why what she said was bad though.
The whole pred vs prey thing can easily be read in this super reactionary, fascist way. I am Nazi myself but I really don't see how you can think about it and not reach that conclusion. Like it's a world that acknowledges racial differences are biological; it's not a misunderstanding and "prejudices". And once you base the characterization on inequality you can't make an egalitarian message and not have it refute itself.
That's why race metaphors tend to not work and you're not supposed to think about it too hard. Beastars takes it prey/predator premise more literally and builds a way more interesting world with it.
The attempt at a racism analogy just pisses me off because the message is basically frick safety, frick common sense, frick using your brain because it can hurt someone's feelings. If a man much bigger and stronger than me can suddenly go berserk without warning, I want to know so I can get the frick away from him.
it's only able to be read in a fascist way if you assume that white = prey and black = predator or the reverse, which the movie makes very clear is not the case. The general message is 'racism is bad, even when the other race did bad stuff in the past' which is surely something people here can agree with
The whole point was that they wouldn't go beserk without warning. They were under the influence of illegal drugs introduced by government officials into their neighborhoods. And also prey animals will act the exact same in that situation
>The general message is 'racism is bad, even when the other race did bad stuff in the past' which is surely something people here can agree with
Historical grievances never come up in the movie, it is purely a conflict born out of a perceived likelihood of violent outburst and tendencies. Bellwhether stages the whole thing because she thinks every predator is out to get her, mistreat her and discriminate against her, you could very well flip the script and claim the Predators are the white people whose perceived privilege, power and past victimization of others make characters like her harbor immense resentment and justify it as social justice.
Cute rabbit.
I like Beta Judy. I also like Final Judy. So...... fine either way.
>"The Man"
>Still looks more feminine than the final version
I think proto Zootopia grimdark could have worked but Disney would never do it right
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