>Longtime Marvel Comics editor, Tom Brevoort, announced on his social media that after 25 years of being the editor in charge of the Avengers line of comic books, he will be moving over to take on editing duties of Marvel's X-Men line of comics, although Brevoort notes that the changeover will not occur in the near future, and he still has major plans for the Avengers titles, and longtime X-Men head, Jordan D. White (who had been the X-Men Group Editor since 2018), will be finishing out the plans that his team have for the X-Men before Brevoort takes over.
https://www.cbr.com/tom-brevoort-marvel-x-men-line-avengers/
Excited at the possibility of Vision and Wanda getting attention now
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Maybe the point of assigning their most traditional superhero editor, who doesn't even like the non-superhero aspects of the X-Men, is to try and get the X-Men away from misery porn and do more superhero stuff again.
If so, I give it 18 months before we get an event about mutant extinction.
Who the hell is taking over Avengers tho, Nick Lowe?
why? I wouldn't particularly consider being the X-men editor a step up from being the Marvel heros editors, kinda feel if marvel wanted to get rid of brevoort they would have kick him up stairs to the production team or something else
I guess it might be there way of shaking up moves in the org, currently Avengers isn't doing so hot and they might just have someone else take over.
I don't think D, White will bring out the best out of the Marvel heroes line, maybe White will let someone do a good GOTG book
Remember, the Avengers franchise is winding down in the MCU and the X-Men franchise is in theory starting up (we'll see how that goes). In the last few years Marvel has acknowledged that by giving most of the big talent and promotion to the X-books while giving fewer resources to the Avengers, unlike 10 years ago when it was the opposite.
So they put their most senior editor on the franchise that they care about most for the foreseeable future.
X-Men is absolutely fricked and they've already paid for all the art and scripts to the end of next year
Brevoort is going in to pick up the pieces and try to reassemble it, he's at the later end of his career so he doesn't really care if it doesn't work out, he can just retire and say it was unfixable, and if it does work out he can hang in there and take the glory
comic book sales and in particular comic book editors and creatives have nothing to do with the studio
they used to have a Creative Committee but that all got fricked years ago because some of the members kept cold-calling studio people trying to get their scripts read
Brevoort basically let Avengers stagnate under Aaron and the all star artist squad only kept sales servicable. X-gays are in dire straits.
He also had many good runs before that though.
The real worrying part is that synergy. Brevoort is all about synergy. He has said if he was in charge of DC he would undo Dick Grayson as Nightwing if that's what Matt Reeves did.
How the frick would that work? Are you gonna hit Dick with a de-aging ray?
>Synergy
Ayoo, Wanda will be a mutant again?
Brevoort was part of the retcon that made her not a mutant and not Magneto's kid.
And he spent years defending it on the internet, and lying to fans that it had nothing to do with the movies
Oh damn. Welp
>Excited at the possibility of Vision and Wanda getting attention now
Brevoort's certainly been a big part of the problem, but it's so entrenched at Marvel that it's difficult to hope a change of editor will finally fix anything. At least Avengers is finally going to be free from him. Even if the next editor does suck, he probably won't be there 25 years.
>Wanda's fans don't even want this
>X-Men fans think what they want for her matters more
Why are you like this?
As for that book, the MCU already answered this in WandaVision. "Born with powers" doesn't always mean "mutant", in this case it meant "witch". It's not a good idea for the MCU to keep retconning itself, nor to keep changing the origins of characters just to make them more like old comic canon.
yup
t. x-gay
https://www.thepopverse.com/marvel-x-men-xmen-comics-studios-tom-brevoort
The X-Men might once again become Marvel's biggest brand in its library.
After teasing some major changes on the horizon, Marvel Publishing VP/executive editor Tom Brevoort has revealed that the company is shifting gears - and shifting most all of his efforts - to work on the X-Men.
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And its at the expense of him running the Avengers brand for the past 25 years, a franchise which he led to become Marvel's flagship group franchise with hits such as Avengers: Dissassembled, Civil War, Secret Invasion, Secret Wars, and more.
"... the big story is that, after a quarter of a century editing Avengers and its associated titles, I am going to be moving away from those characters and titles and instead stepping into the world of mutants," Brevoort has announced on his personal Facebook page. "Yes, that’s right, I’m afraid that it’s true--I'm the X."
We're told Brevoort will be keeping his VP and Executive Editor titles, but will also become the group editor for the X-Men titles, taking over from Jordan D. White who was in charge of the titles since 2018.
While Brevoort says the change "isn’t going to happen for a good long while yet," he has previously said August 1 was when his role within Marvel changed.
"I still have a ton of stuff cooking in AVENGERS (including next year’s big crossover event series) that needs to be seen to completion," Brevoort writes on Facebook. "And at the same time, current X-guru Jordan White and his team have a massive story that they’re in the middle of and that won’t run its course for a long while. What I do will grow directly out of what they’re doing—provided they leave me anything to work with. Did you read that HELLFIRE GALA book? Cripes!"
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It's hard to underestimate the influence Tom Brevoort has had on the modern era of Marvel - be it Marvel Comics, Marvel Studios, or Marvel bedsheets even. Brevoort took over the flagging Avengers comics titles in the late '90s - which at the time and for two decades prior had been overshadowed in popularity and sales by the X-Men. That all changed with 'Avengers Disassembled,' a storyline led by Brevoort and the Brevoort-chosen writer Brian Michael Bendis which led into a not-so-subtle reinvigoration of the Avengers title, which propogated multiple Avengers spin-offs, as well as mega-popular events such as Civil War, Secret Invasion, and Secret Wars (all three, which Marvel Studios' picked up to become multi-million dollar successes).
Brevoort is also Marvel's longest-serving employee, starting in 1989 as a college art major interning at the New York based publisher. Brevoort rose through ranks to become a full editor by the late '90s. On the back of his success reinvigorating the Avengers line (and the Marvel Comics line as a whole), he was made executive editor in 2007, and senior VP of publishing in 2011. Through it all though, he maintained the reigns as the direct editor of lines such as the Avengers and Fantastic Four, which included several of the team members solo titles.
But in short, think about it this way: Marvel just moved their highest-qualified editor and shepherd of comics, characters, creators and fellow editorial/design/publishing talent to re-focus his energies centrally on the X-Men.
And make no mistake. Away from the Avengers. Not that its a diss on the Avengers, it's that the X-Men is now that important.
>Brevoort took over the flagging Avengers comics titles in the late '90s - which at the time and for two decades prior had been overshadowed in popularity and sales by the X-Men. That all changed with 'Avengers Disassembled,' a storyline led by Brevoort and the Brevoort-chosen writer Brian Michael Bendis
There's a lot of untruths here. The Avengers was not a "flagging" book when Brevoort became editor. He inherited the title from right after Heroes Reborn made it one of Marvel's top sellers, kept it one of Marvel's top sellers until Perez left, then sales started slowly dropping, they reinvigorated it years after with Disassembled and the New Avengers relaunch.
>But in short, think about it this way: Marvel just moved their highest-qualified editor and shepherd of comics, characters, creators and fellow editorial/design/publishing talent to re-focus his energies centrally on the X-Men.
>And make no mistake. Away from the Avengers. Not that its a diss on the Avengers, it's that the X-Men is now that important.
You could instead see this in similar terms as Macchio being moved over to edit the Spider-Man books towards the end of the Clone Saga; a senior editor being assigned to a different corner of Marvel with instructions to finally bring a bloated, overblown, convoluted storyline to an end, fix the books, get them back to normal, and try to get them selling better again.
Quesadilla and Alon$o deserve far more credit for reinvigorating Avengers. Brevoort's strategy was putting hacks like Johns and Austen on the book to follow Busiek. It was Quesada who decided to go with Mark Millar's pitch of Avengers being an all-star team with Wolverine and Spider-Man with Bendis on scripting duties.
>a senior editor being assigned to a different corner of Marvel with instructions to finally bring a bloated, overblown, convoluted storyline to an end, fix the books, get them back to normal, and try to get them selling better again.
1) The attempt to get the x-books back from the malaise of perlmutter and inhumans years was HoX/PoX. Given that Marvel has stuck with it for so long, it seems like they do see money in it.
If anything I think there's another alternative reading that Marvel wanted the Avengers reinvigorated back to what it was during the Alonso period with a whole universe of Avengers titles and that they picked White for the job and had Brevoort take the X-title position as a consolation.
2) There's only three "senior editors". One is leaving X-books, the other already had the position. So Brevoort is the only one who never had that position. The math is not complicated. If it was an open position, he's the only one with experience for the job from avaliable candidates.
If I had to guess this won't be the only editorial change and we see people being shifted even more for other initiatives.
Yes this does smell like a large internal shakeup within editorial with multiple senior positions changing hands.
>Brevoort's strategy was putting hacks like Johns and Austen on the book to follow Busiek.
Whatever Cinemaphile thinks of him now, Bill Jemas micromanaging Geoff Johns on Avengers so much that he quit and went exclusive with DC ended up being a pretty big loss for them in the 2000s. But all Avengers really needed was a star artist to make it sell like it was selling during Heroes Reborn and when Perez was there. They didn't NEED to change the book as drastically as they did, but for better or worse doing so made it into Marvel's top book, and Brevoort stopped opposing Avengers being expanded into a franchise of books again. Back during the Busiek/Perez days the book had been selling well enough that launching more Avengers books was an obvious step to take, but IIRC neither Brevoort nor Busiek wanted it to happen, so it didn't.
>Given that Marvel has stuck with it for so long, it seems like they do see money in it.
Marvel stuck with the Clone Saga for a long time because the books were selling, at least to begin with. The comparison is valid. Keep in mind that only the top few X-books are selling that well, most of the line isn't doing so well.
>If anything I think there's another alternative reading that Marvel wanted the Avengers reinvigorated back to what it was during the Alonso period with a whole universe of Avengers titles and that they picked White for the job and had Brevoort take the X-title position as a consolation.
I think we're going to have to wait and see who the new Avengers editor is and what their plans are before we can judge. It's very possible this is as much about Brevoort's mismanagement of the Avengers as it is about putting a veteran editor over to the X-books.
>There's only three "senior editors".
None of them are as senior as Brevoort, who's a holdover from the days when DeFalco was EiC. It's weird to think guys like White are considered on the same level as him. Is Lowe the other senior editor? The absolute state of Marvel.
>It's weird to think guys like White are considered on the same level as him.
Senior editors are people who manage entire lines. That's why White and Lowe are on the same level as Brevoort since they manage X-Men and Spider-Man (which includes DD and Punisher and Ms Marvel) related titles respectively while Brevoort does the Avengers stuff (which includes Avengers, IM, Thor, Captain America)
The age difference is crazier like Lowe is only 40 these guys are nearing 60 real soon.
My impression of Brevoort is that he's not as strong with artists as he is with writers. Certainly it's not all his fault that he could never find a consistent artist on Avengers after Perez left, since management was sending the top artists to other projects (eg putting Bryan Hitch on Ultimates when Busiek and Brevoort wanted him for Avengers). But I feel like when an artist breaks through to stardom it's usually under some other editor; he's a writer's editor for good or ill.
Better than fricking lowe and RomitaJR, maybe im just a hater but frick JR artwork recently its fricking ass.
>(eg putting Bryan Hitch on Ultimates when Busiek and Brevoort wanted him for Avengers).
I'd point out Hitch came along with Millar. The idea he'd go work for Brevoort and Busiek is just not likely given his strong connections with the Wildstorm set.
>into Marvel's top book
I would also argue that the fact that every issue was tie-ing to an event helped too
>Alon$o
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Who are DC's senior editors? They can't be worse than Marvel's.
Have to be better than didio.
They are substantially worse. Their current EiC is the one who approved Ruins.
>Quesadilla and Alon$o deserve far more credit for reinvigorating Avengers.
you mean "blame"?
Disassembled was not lead by Brevoort. It was the baby of Quesada and Bendis. If anything it demonstrate how he has stayed at Marvel for so long by not stepping on anyone's toes and giving the writers maximum creative freedom.
>And its at the expense of him running the Avengers brand for the past 25 years, a franchise which he led to become Marvel's flagship group franchise with hits such as Avengers: Dissassembled, Civil War, Secret Invasion, Secret Wars, and more.
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I'll stop here before Cinemaphile calls my post a "spam"
We're in good hands bros
Brevoort to White: Stop Memeing on the Classics
> Which is why, I expect, I really liked Grant Morrison’s recent run. Grant threw out the standard X-Men style—a gutsy move, since it was undeniably commercial—and substituted his own wild ideas in its place. I think Grant’s run followed the established pattern he’d set down in earlier series such as Doom Patrol and JLA—it opened with a number of electric, mind-blowing stories, settled in with a soft, flabby and somewhat self-indulgent middle section, only to pull a stellar climax together in the final issues. It’s the most fun I’ve had with the X-Men in a long while.
> And that’s why you really don’t want me editing many X-Men comics—the things you like about the book and the characters aren’t the things that work for me. (I’ll tell you this much: were she not already dead, I’d delight in dropping a concrete block on Illyana Rasputin’s head, so annoying did I find her Magik persona.)
Magik is about to get the Wally West under DiDio treatment
First paragraph bodes well imo
Maybe the act will be dropped after Ike the israelite got sacked?
Wdym
The Mutant erasure era/inhuman push was imposed by Ike Perlmutter to spite Fox
Yeah, but that mostly wasn't Brevoort's problem (actually helped him by funnelling more resources to his books).
He's made it pretty clear that he's not a big fan of the X-Men after the Claremont/Byrne era. We'll see what he says now that it's necessary for him to care about the franchise.
Ah
Morrison ruined the X-Men
Good, Magik has been one of the most unbearably shitty characters I've ever seen since she came back. She really does nothing but—and exists for no other reason than to—be Sexy Evil Chick (Hero).
NOOOO!!!! OH GOD NOOOO PLEASE TAKE HIM BACK!!! I WAS ENJOYING THE X-MEN
I don't think White was the reason for those good X-men books you were reading
that doesn't negate his point either
Thought the fat frick would never leave
I mean he's 57 give it like 3 years he'll get the quesada boot most likely.
How long until MacKay ascends to a major charge in the Spider office??
He's the only one that brought fresh ideas in the last decade and has the fans trust
But Slott comes before MacKay in seniority iirc
MacKay is a bad writer
He needs to be kept away from Spider-Man. Let him write other characters. Writing Spidey drags people down.
He’s fine but nothing special. Gleason would be a better pick.
If we want real change though we need based Danny to edit
I'd say he should write ASM but not until Lowe is gone. Don't need that useless homosexual Slotting his stories up.
I don't hold any hope. Brevoort is a moron who doubled down on the "make fans angry" approach to stories and the MCUification and synergization of the Avengers was something he was all for. White is a moron and a terrible editor who knows nothing about the X-Men but Brevoort isn't any better.
Im not.
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wonder who will take pver the marvel heros editor role, white or someone else?
Again it's still all speculation but according to industry insiders Marvel is planning a company wide relaunch of their comics in 2025. Them getting rid of one guy whose job it was to keep track of continuity and putting him on series of books where continuity no longer matters, only makes my suspicions grow stronger that there really is something to this rumor.