I just saw this movie. It was actually really good, not a super serious film but I loved it anyway.
What is it about the film they used in the early 90s that was so comfy? Something about the way it renders greys was really pleasing, it was a great looking movie.
I have minor nitpick with the plot, why try to approve a drug thats only going cause a bunch of lawsuits later? Like if they were trying to cover up the damage of an already released drug that would make more sense.
They'd probably spent so much lobbying the fda (run by former pharma execs) to get it approved, and marketing the next wonder drug that they couldn't really back out now. At least, that's how it works in real life. Could you imagine a movie today that painted big pharma in a negative light?
they know they'll have to settle lawsuits and they also know that even with the lawsuits they'll still make money hand over fist, and they'll take that chance (with someone else's life). This is what they seriously do
>make billions in sales >settle lawsuits for pennies on the dollar
also, falsifying the data then killing off everyone who knows makes it next to impossible to definitively prove it was the drug that caused the problems rather than it simply not working, which of course would completely change the nature of the lawsuits and subsequent payoffs
The way he just tosses the coins at the toll booth, fricking hell. But if you haven't seen it, the whole movie's parody plus goofy slapstick like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ4iw-R5fQk
My favorite movie of all time, I've seen it 55/56 times. I accidentally lost track last time I watch it and it's bothered me ever since. >be lil' squirt >dad has some killer speakers and subwoofers >"HEY ANON LEMME SHOW YOU THIS REALLY COOL TRAIN SCENE" >entire fricking living room starts shaking >he's laughing >i'm laughing >mom is pissed because something fell, but she's laughing too >beg him to replay the scene again >we end up making popcorn and watching the whole thing from start to finish
being able to quote the majority of the movie is a useless skill, but it always makes my old mans mile when it's on TV and i'm visiting.
love my family, love cosmo, love newman, love the sassy black chick who was always great in Lost, love the 'i dont care', love it all.
everything is set up perfectly to make the stress great >train starts coming right away and super loud >character not only has to flee, but has to save someone and flee >has trouble fleeing himself, manages to do it at the last second but at an awkward angle which builds suspense >once he jumps he's not even free. has to run away from a moving train >ON TOP OF HIS ANKLES BEING SHACKLED TOGETHER
it's just so, so good. really strong opener to a movie.
It's a great movie. The last act is a bit weak compared to the rest of the movie, but that's because the rest is so strong and well done.
First act (Richard is convicted to escaping again by jumping off the dam): 10/10
Second act (Richard uncovers the conspiracy with the Marshals giving chase): 9/10
Third act (Richard confronts Nichols): 7/10
I kind of liked how odd the third act is, it has this weird feeling to it where all of his detective work comes to fruition. The confrontation is weird, getting to said confrontation is weird, the final fight places are weird, etc. It does get a tiny bit slow when he's asking around the hospital for information, but I think some of that you can't really avoid.
I can totally get why people would be put off, but I think it's because the whole build up was slightly unconventional along the way that it makes sense.
It's a great movie. The last act is a bit weak compared to the rest of the movie, but that's because the rest is so strong and well done.
First act (Richard is convicted to escaping again by jumping off the dam): 10/10
Second act (Richard uncovers the conspiracy with the Marshals giving chase): 9/10
Third act (Richard confronts Nichols): 7/10
Only problem with the 3rd act and the movie as a whole is that it makes no sense why Kimble couldn't have figured out that Nichols was the villain and orchestrated his wife's murder when he knew he gave him the keys to his house that night.
Kimble trusted Nichols and until he actually uncovered the conspiracy didn't have any reason to suspect him. It's entirely possible for someone to break in without force and still not have the keys, for example.
Yeah, I guess you kind of headcanon it by saying maybe he was under so much stress he forgot or something. I think given the nature of the crime + people involved, you'd have to completely change everything and I think the weird mistake far outweighs a shittier murder premise.
It's cool to hear you bring it up though, because it's honestly something that never really bothered me. By the end, there's so much evidence against Nichols and the stakes are so high that the protags slip-up admission doesn't mean much. Plus, up until the end you're entirely believing that Nichols is on his side so ruining that would have been a little weird.
I like all the detective stuff in the second act, it's pretty well done in that everything Kimble did (aside from showing up in person to meet the one-armed man in jail) is something a smart person would do in that situation. As for the last act, it's definitely satisfying to watch Richard get his revenge and in the end prove his innocence, it's just ridiculous how some fat schlub like Nichols is able to overpower and outsmart everyone in fights. I don't know how else you end the movie, though.
Lel the jail scene is so good, helps humanize him and not paint him out to be some 500 IQ fugitive who's always one step ahead >nichols always overpowering people
that's pure boomer energy for you
>Lel the jail scene is so good, helps humanize him and not paint him out to be some 500 IQ fugitive who's always one step ahead
that's true, it also gives us the great moment where Gerard yells out "Richard!" on the stairs. I always liked how he referred to him by his first name rather than his last because you're more likely to instinctively respond to that
I like all the detective stuff in the second act, it's pretty well done in that everything Kimble did (aside from showing up in person to meet the one-armed man in jail) is something a smart person would do in that situation. As for the last act, it's definitely satisfying to watch Richard get his revenge and in the end prove his innocence, it's just ridiculous how some fat schlub like Nichols is able to overpower and outsmart everyone in fights. I don't know how else you end the movie, though.
US Marshals is better
They did shared universes before it was even a thing
US Marshals is just the fugitive but black
I just saw this movie. It was actually really good, not a super serious film but I loved it anyway.
What is it about the film they used in the early 90s that was so comfy? Something about the way it renders greys was really pleasing, it was a great looking movie.
thanks, I almost downloaded it
I thought it was pretty good
this too
It’s one of the few 10/10s
weakest bait
terrible
The plot is silly but the atmosphere and acting is top-notch.
I have minor nitpick with the plot, why try to approve a drug thats only going cause a bunch of lawsuits later? Like if they were trying to cover up the damage of an already released drug that would make more sense.
they make billions then pay out millions in fines
They'd probably spent so much lobbying the fda (run by former pharma execs) to get it approved, and marketing the next wonder drug that they couldn't really back out now. At least, that's how it works in real life. Could you imagine a movie today that painted big pharma in a negative light?
they know they'll have to settle lawsuits and they also know that even with the lawsuits they'll still make money hand over fist, and they'll take that chance (with someone else's life). This is what they seriously do
>make billions in sales
>settle lawsuits for pennies on the dollar
also, falsifying the data then killing off everyone who knows makes it next to impossible to definitively prove it was the drug that caused the problems rather than it simply not working, which of course would completely change the nature of the lawsuits and subsequent payoffs
Will one day ride the train in Western NC to see the film wreckage. Looking forward to it.
Yeah it's awesome that they actually wrecked a train to film that shot. Nowadays they'd just CGI it and it would look fake.
I wish today’s dumb movies were still this fun
utter kino
No, it's actually very good.
Amazing hook, but the final act really falls on its face. Like most movies in that genre.
Excellent atmosphere and soundtrack.
For me, it's Wrongfully Accused.
frick me. completely wiped that one from memory
So many great moments. My favorite's probably the car scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOJHXDgIq9w
not gonna lie...........that was pretty bad. wtf leslie
The way he just tosses the coins at the toll booth, fricking hell. But if you haven't seen it, the whole movie's parody plus goofy slapstick like that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJ4iw-R5fQk
My favorite movie of all time, I've seen it 55/56 times. I accidentally lost track last time I watch it and it's bothered me ever since.
>be lil' squirt
>dad has some killer speakers and subwoofers
>"HEY ANON LEMME SHOW YOU THIS REALLY COOL TRAIN SCENE"
>entire fricking living room starts shaking
>he's laughing
>i'm laughing
>mom is pissed because something fell, but she's laughing too
>beg him to replay the scene again
>we end up making popcorn and watching the whole thing from start to finish
being able to quote the majority of the movie is a useless skill, but it always makes my old mans mile when it's on TV and i'm visiting.
love my family, love cosmo, love newman, love the sassy black chick who was always great in Lost, love the 'i dont care', love it all.
that train crash is more visceral than any modern blockbuster
everything is set up perfectly to make the stress great
>train starts coming right away and super loud
>character not only has to flee, but has to save someone and flee
>has trouble fleeing himself, manages to do it at the last second but at an awkward angle which builds suspense
>once he jumps he's not even free. has to run away from a moving train
>ON TOP OF HIS ANKLES BEING SHACKLED TOGETHER
it's just so, so good. really strong opener to a movie.
I DON'T CARE
*Jumps
AHHHHHHHHHHHH
"My glasses"
i bet you watched because of that one thread i had it open too but i always thought this movie would be mediocre thanks for confirming
No it's a great thriller all around, made in the 90s when they actually put effort into making strong blockbusters
It's a great movie. The last act is a bit weak compared to the rest of the movie, but that's because the rest is so strong and well done.
First act (Richard is convicted to escaping again by jumping off the dam): 10/10
Second act (Richard uncovers the conspiracy with the Marshals giving chase): 9/10
Third act (Richard confronts Nichols): 7/10
I kind of liked how odd the third act is, it has this weird feeling to it where all of his detective work comes to fruition. The confrontation is weird, getting to said confrontation is weird, the final fight places are weird, etc. It does get a tiny bit slow when he's asking around the hospital for information, but I think some of that you can't really avoid.
I can totally get why people would be put off, but I think it's because the whole build up was slightly unconventional along the way that it makes sense.
Only problem with the 3rd act and the movie as a whole is that it makes no sense why Kimble couldn't have figured out that Nichols was the villain and orchestrated his wife's murder when he knew he gave him the keys to his house that night.
Kimble trusted Nichols and until he actually uncovered the conspiracy didn't have any reason to suspect him. It's entirely possible for someone to break in without force and still not have the keys, for example.
Yeah, I guess you kind of headcanon it by saying maybe he was under so much stress he forgot or something. I think given the nature of the crime + people involved, you'd have to completely change everything and I think the weird mistake far outweighs a shittier murder premise.
It's cool to hear you bring it up though, because it's honestly something that never really bothered me. By the end, there's so much evidence against Nichols and the stakes are so high that the protags slip-up admission doesn't mean much. Plus, up until the end you're entirely believing that Nichols is on his side so ruining that would have been a little weird.
Lel the jail scene is so good, helps humanize him and not paint him out to be some 500 IQ fugitive who's always one step ahead
>nichols always overpowering people
that's pure boomer energy for you
>Lel the jail scene is so good, helps humanize him and not paint him out to be some 500 IQ fugitive who's always one step ahead
that's true, it also gives us the great moment where Gerard yells out "Richard!" on the stairs. I always liked how he referred to him by his first name rather than his last because you're more likely to instinctively respond to that
I like all the detective stuff in the second act, it's pretty well done in that everything Kimble did (aside from showing up in person to meet the one-armed man in jail) is something a smart person would do in that situation. As for the last act, it's definitely satisfying to watch Richard get his revenge and in the end prove his innocence, it's just ridiculous how some fat schlub like Nichols is able to overpower and outsmart everyone in fights. I don't know how else you end the movie, though.