>Big fantasy city setting >Unsubtle racial allegory plot >Unlikely romance between "opposing sides" in the racial allegory >One character is a public servant and the plot is propelled forward by their actions as a public servant
Yeah it's just the city that's similar
Not to mention they both manage to have a scene where the two protagonists are in a slow moving form of transport where they have a heart to heart where one reveals a depressing moment in their past showing a really ham-fisted depicting of said racism allegory.
It's actually really weird that they both managed to do that. Zootopia and Elemental are easily closer to each other than they are to any other film.
>It's actually really weird
Zootopia got a shit ton of notes from Pixar, of course it's going to end up like a Pixar movie.
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>Pixar was brought in late in Zootopia's development to resolve story issues regarding the infamous 'collar dystopia' >Basically told them to completely rework the story >Elemental started development approximately 7 years before release (2015-16)
What if? Hmm? No... but maybe?
Zootopia and Wreck it Ralph have always felt like Pixar movies to me.
The more time goes on the more it seems that Pixar and Disney (the animation studio) are becoming a single thing in regards to style.
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Anonymous
The only thing really keeping WDAS movies separate now is the fact that Pixar doesn't do musicals. All the non-musical WDAS movies could easily get a "Pixar" label slapped on them and no one would notice.
Though that issue goes back as far as Bolt, in my opinion. Pixar has such a lock on the "battle with the self/battle with one's family" story framework that its hard to tell them apart, when was the last Pixar movie with an actual villain character? Toy Story 3?
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Anonymous
>when was the last Pixar movie with an actual villain character?
Lightyear, kind of. Toy Story 4, sort of. Incredibles 2, definitely.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Incredibles 2
Man for a movie that kid-me hoped for years would be made, the actual product really didn't have much cultural sticking power.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Cause it sucked >shitty villain >ugly literal who characters >Bob Dash and Violet just sort of mill around doing nothing particularly important
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Anonymous
I don't think the very concept was anything fans of the original wanted out of a sequel, let alone the execution. I think people wanted either full-family heroics or to follow the kids. I don't think anyone but the writers wanted Incredibles 1: Helen Edition.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Cars 2?
But this is interesting to point out since it was the next movie after TS3. Cars 2 is either the last classic Pixar movie or the first modern one depending on how you see things.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Cars 2 should only be remembered as the worst Pixar movie every by a huge margin, and the only one that is not worth watching at all.
5 months ago
Anonymous
I'm willing to die on the hill that The Good Dinosaur is worse.
Cars 2 is hokey, relies on a gag character that had already overstayed it's welcome in the first film, but it has a clear plot that is at least filled with fun set pieces and action scenes.
The Good Dinosaur is just... nothing. The plot is as weak as can be, the art direction is so realistic it bends over into boring while also being incredibly incongruous (the animals vs the landscape). The March of the Penguins is more riveting.
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Anonymous
There's a fair argument to be made there, even if I don't agree. Good Dinosaur is boring, but Cars 2 is actively bad because it went against everything Pixar was up till that point. Instead of trying to have an actual message like all their previous movies it was an hour and half long toy commercial with nothing to say at all. At least they redeemed the series with Cars 3.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Luka, Onwards, Turning Red and Lightyear are all much worse.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Onward was good, the others there's an argument for.
5 months ago
Anonymous
>Turning Red
Literal kino, tf you talkin bout?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Probably a triggered amerilard
5 months ago
Anonymous
Luca is top tier Pixar for me. Really nice movie. Enjoyed Onward a lot too.
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Anonymous
Man I could have sworn Cars 2 came out before Toy Story 3.
Also someone IRL reminded me that Ernesto de la Cruz is more recent. Which reminded me that Coco was a Pixar and not a WDAS movie. Which wraps back around to the initial point.
>Pixar was brought in late in Zootopia's development to resolve story issues regarding the infamous 'collar dystopia' >Basically told them to completely rework the story >Elemental started development approximately 7 years before release (2015-16)
What if? Hmm? No... but maybe?
Zootopia definitely handled it better, as it was more about general discrimination and wasn't designed to be an allegory specifically for races and shit. Elemental was good, but making the fire people Chinese made it a little too on the nose.
When Elemental came out, everybody was constantly trying to make similarities between Elemental and Zootopia. Namely, since Zootopia featured racism fairly heavily with the predator/prey dynamic and Elemental had a strong focus on the family/self-isolating nature of the fire people, people liked to say that they were basically the same movie.
That's not really the case, although you might believe it was listening to Cinemaphile.
Does she go commando all the time? Surely her hot ass would burn her panties off
>Does she go commando all the time?
It's implied she only wears the dress, so yes. By contrast, there's nothing really there. The cloud people are even worse, if you like 'em large.
The comparison is that the Zootopia racism made sense and the Elemental one doesn't.
Predators are no longer dangerous. Fire elements are still dangerous. The racism is entirely justified, which is why the racism metaphor is considered so weak in Elemental compared to Zootopia.
>Fire elements are still dangerous.
They literally are not. Nobody got hurt even by Ember's outbursts, and the biggest fear (that someone would die if a Fire person touched any other) was completely unfounded.
Ironically, Fire were the only ones ever in any real danger, since getting swamped by actual (non-person) water was a real danger that they faced.
The movie was more about acceptance, that family values does not mean behaving exclusionary, and to understand the situations of others. Also, don't let your assumptions about what would happen with no logical reason make your decisions.
Yeah I don't get why people think the fire is dangerous
>Ember explodes in plant guys office >Just singed, jokes about it
>Wade thinks he's going to fricking die by vaporizing at the end >Nah bro I'll just recondense
Meanwhile a fricking flood of deadly water cascades in front of Ember's house every day that could instantly kill her.
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Anonymous
The waters are bigots for not accepting immigrants.
How does Wade end up kissing and fricking Ember? Did they find a way to kiss without killing eachother? When they have a baby will it be a steam? Can ember get pregnant with a water baby?
5 months ago
Anonymous
They show they can kiss and touch and it just boils him a little. As far as reproduction, that's not explained how it works for any of the races so who knows how any of it works.
5 months ago
Anonymous
Theoretically a fire and water should create an air baby considering clouds are water vapor
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Anonymous
Depends on how reproduction actually works for each the elements. For all we know fire just makes new people out the blue flame or some shit.
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Anonymous
>When they have a baby will it be a steam?
Yes:
storyboard for a cut scene
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Anonymous
Why do they always cut out stuff that explains shit?
5 months ago
Anonymous
Disney has a thing against implications that their characters have sex unless they're Simba or if they started the movie as parents (like the Incredibles).
5 months ago
Anonymous
You also don't want to explain everything in case there is a sequel. Sometimes you need to hold back a few good ideas for future planning.
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Anonymous
the reason ember and wade can touch is because of the leidenfrost effect (which i called at the very beginning of the movie) which states that if a liquid comes into contact with something that is significantly hotter than it's boiling point the vapor cloud produced protects it so I'm thinking maybe either wade just keeps hydrated (lol) or sticks some ice in himself to give him more time before Leidenfrost kicks in
This is funny after watching the movie and realizing there was only one racist guy in it. Ember's father. And even that's kind of a stretch because you could say he was only protecting his daughter.
>at first it’s warm but it starts to burn >to the point it’s painful, you try to pull out but she leg locks you, scorching your lower back as she smirks and says “Not until you “extinguish” me baby…”
Her dress makes no sense as a safety garment. Metal would just radiate all that heat to her surroundings. She would need something like an asbestos winter coat.
Almost all metal is heat resistant, specifically because it propagates and radiates the heat. Which makes it useless as a garment a fire chick could wear to prevent from setting things on fire. There's a reason there are no chainmail kitchen mittens.
Unironically, what do you think she smells like?
Firewood?
Propain?
Gasoline?
Napalm?
Do bunsens have scent?
Burnt hair?
Some other clever fire related thing I'm ignorant of?
The thing is, you're not meant to laugh, you're meant to sympathize with the Asian-American male plight.
Personally, I think all hyphenated Americans are moronic. America is the one country where you can be anything and be equally American because it's a nation made of a bunch of races and cultures. Unless you're a native, then you're super-American.
The marketing definitely wasn't great, but I kind of get it. Kids aren't going to be into love stories, so they didn't really push that part of it as much and tried to make it look different.
I think it was cynicism due to Disney and Pixar's recent movies, like Lightyear, which was a stinker.
The basic premise sounds similar to other Pixar and Disney movies like Zootopia and Inside Out, with the big city of personified elements and star-crossed lovers. So it's be easy to think it's going to be a dull attempt at copying those previous successes from an ailing studio. Disney doing exactly that with their live action remakes doesn't help.
Like the other anon said, the execution saves it, but it's hard to show that in short trailers.
When I finally saw it, it far exceeded my expectations.
That probably why it "flopped" when it came out but then a month or two later there were a bunch of articles saying it actually did reasonably well. I guess word of mouth finally got around that it was actually a decent movie.
But they showed that the segregation wasn't necessary, and that the different elements could live together with just a few fairly minor considerations being made for each other.
Just because they showed it doesn't mean that it made sense. They established earlier that water elements damage the goods of the fire elements, and the fire elements damage the buildings of all other elements.
In the end, it shows all the other elements shopping at the fire store, but nothing changed. I'm guessing the only change is that the elements learn to be considerate and careful around each other, but like they could have always done that.
>I'm guessing the only change is that the elements learn to be considerate and careful around each other, but like they could have always done that.
Which was exactly the intended message, that it's up to people to make it work and they can if they want to.
Nah, I'm fine with it. Race allegories never completely work with the metaphor, so if you take things literally, like white people living in houses that instantly kill Asians, it's going to fall apart.
You just have to accept the metaphor isn't airtight and enjoy the story.
Ember's struggle feels more real with the comparison to real immigrants, and the story would lose something without it.
But that's the problem: they put the metaphor first over the story. The fire elements never acknowledge that they are an actual, objective problem for the other elements.
One way to show some kind of acknowledge that they are a problem is when they interact with other elements, they wear a fire moronant suit. Like when Ember and her dad went to the museum, they're in fire protective suits. But they're still denied entry anyway because the other elements still find it too dangerous.
Show us that the fire elements really are trying to integrate with society through the visual metaphor of the suit, and show the discrimination anyway by having them be denied.
>he fire elements never acknowledge that they are an actual, objective problem for the other elements.
The water elements are a bigger problem for the fire people, considering they can instantly accidently kill them at any time.
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Anonymous
The fires came to their land, not the other way around.
I think you're exaggerating.
too bad she's uglier for having associated with water blob
Weak
"Mom, can we get Elemental"
"We have Elemental at Home"
>Elemental at home
What if we had a crossover?
I thought this said 'angry cumdump' at first.
You need help.
I don't get it
Both movies have a big fantasy city, so clearly they are the same thing.
>Big fantasy city setting
>Unsubtle racial allegory plot
>Unlikely romance between "opposing sides" in the racial allegory
>One character is a public servant and the plot is propelled forward by their actions as a public servant
Yeah it's just the city that's similar
Humans are one race
Zootopia deliberately and unfortunately stayed clear from race-mixing romance
> Zootopia deliberately and unfortunately stayed clear from race-mixing romance
It would be species-mixing which raises all sorts of complications.
Sexy complications, which is the best kind of complications
Being a medium sized animal would be the best, you're big enough to be noticeable and small enough to do freaky shit with larger animals
Not to mention they both manage to have a scene where the two protagonists are in a slow moving form of transport where they have a heart to heart where one reveals a depressing moment in their past showing a really ham-fisted depicting of said racism allegory.
It's actually really weird that they both managed to do that. Zootopia and Elemental are easily closer to each other than they are to any other film.
>It's actually really weird
Zootopia got a shit ton of notes from Pixar, of course it's going to end up like a Pixar movie.
Zootopia and Wreck it Ralph have always felt like Pixar movies to me.
The more time goes on the more it seems that Pixar and Disney (the animation studio) are becoming a single thing in regards to style.
The only thing really keeping WDAS movies separate now is the fact that Pixar doesn't do musicals. All the non-musical WDAS movies could easily get a "Pixar" label slapped on them and no one would notice.
Though that issue goes back as far as Bolt, in my opinion. Pixar has such a lock on the "battle with the self/battle with one's family" story framework that its hard to tell them apart, when was the last Pixar movie with an actual villain character? Toy Story 3?
>when was the last Pixar movie with an actual villain character?
Lightyear, kind of. Toy Story 4, sort of. Incredibles 2, definitely.
>Incredibles 2
Man for a movie that kid-me hoped for years would be made, the actual product really didn't have much cultural sticking power.
Cause it sucked
>shitty villain
>ugly literal who characters
>Bob Dash and Violet just sort of mill around doing nothing particularly important
I don't think the very concept was anything fans of the original wanted out of a sequel, let alone the execution. I think people wanted either full-family heroics or to follow the kids. I don't think anyone but the writers wanted Incredibles 1: Helen Edition.
Cars 2?
But this is interesting to point out since it was the next movie after TS3. Cars 2 is either the last classic Pixar movie or the first modern one depending on how you see things.
Cars 2 should only be remembered as the worst Pixar movie every by a huge margin, and the only one that is not worth watching at all.
I'm willing to die on the hill that The Good Dinosaur is worse.
Cars 2 is hokey, relies on a gag character that had already overstayed it's welcome in the first film, but it has a clear plot that is at least filled with fun set pieces and action scenes.
The Good Dinosaur is just... nothing. The plot is as weak as can be, the art direction is so realistic it bends over into boring while also being incredibly incongruous (the animals vs the landscape). The March of the Penguins is more riveting.
There's a fair argument to be made there, even if I don't agree. Good Dinosaur is boring, but Cars 2 is actively bad because it went against everything Pixar was up till that point. Instead of trying to have an actual message like all their previous movies it was an hour and half long toy commercial with nothing to say at all. At least they redeemed the series with Cars 3.
Luka, Onwards, Turning Red and Lightyear are all much worse.
Onward was good, the others there's an argument for.
>Turning Red
Literal kino, tf you talkin bout?
Probably a triggered amerilard
Luca is top tier Pixar for me. Really nice movie. Enjoyed Onward a lot too.
Man I could have sworn Cars 2 came out before Toy Story 3.
Also someone IRL reminded me that Ernesto de la Cruz is more recent. Which reminded me that Coco was a Pixar and not a WDAS movie. Which wraps back around to the initial point.
>Pixar was brought in late in Zootopia's development to resolve story issues regarding the infamous 'collar dystopia'
>Basically told them to completely rework the story
>Elemental started development approximately 7 years before release (2015-16)
What if? Hmm? No... but maybe?
Zootopia definitely handled it better, as it was more about general discrimination and wasn't designed to be an allegory specifically for races and shit. Elemental was good, but making the fire people Chinese made it a little too on the nose.
>Unlikely romance between "opposing sides"
Kys
>Both movies have a big fantasy city, so clearly they are the same thing.
This but unironically
When Elemental came out, everybody was constantly trying to make similarities between Elemental and Zootopia. Namely, since Zootopia featured racism fairly heavily with the predator/prey dynamic and Elemental had a strong focus on the family/self-isolating nature of the fire people, people liked to say that they were basically the same movie.
That's not really the case, although you might believe it was listening to Cinemaphile.
>Does she go commando all the time?
It's implied she only wears the dress, so yes. By contrast, there's nothing really there. The cloud people are even worse, if you like 'em large.
No one likes that.
The comparison is that the Zootopia racism made sense and the Elemental one doesn't.
Predators are no longer dangerous. Fire elements are still dangerous. The racism is entirely justified, which is why the racism metaphor is considered so weak in Elemental compared to Zootopia.
How is it justified? The water people can easily accidently murder the fire people at any time.
And the fire people can murder the earth at any time, or burn everything down.
Considering the waters set up their own settlement, the fires are coming to their land so the waters aren't the ones in the wrong here.
The waters are bigots for not accepting immigrants.
>Fire elements are still dangerous.
They literally are not. Nobody got hurt even by Ember's outbursts, and the biggest fear (that someone would die if a Fire person touched any other) was completely unfounded.
Ironically, Fire were the only ones ever in any real danger, since getting swamped by actual (non-person) water was a real danger that they faced.
The movie was more about acceptance, that family values does not mean behaving exclusionary, and to understand the situations of others. Also, don't let your assumptions about what would happen with no logical reason make your decisions.
Yeah I don't get why people think the fire is dangerous
>Ember explodes in plant guys office
>Just singed, jokes about it
>Wade thinks he's going to fricking die by vaporizing at the end
>Nah bro I'll just recondense
Meanwhile a fricking flood of deadly water cascades in front of Ember's house every day that could instantly kill her.
How does Wade end up kissing and fricking Ember? Did they find a way to kiss without killing eachother? When they have a baby will it be a steam? Can ember get pregnant with a water baby?
They show they can kiss and touch and it just boils him a little. As far as reproduction, that's not explained how it works for any of the races so who knows how any of it works.
Theoretically a fire and water should create an air baby considering clouds are water vapor
Depends on how reproduction actually works for each the elements. For all we know fire just makes new people out the blue flame or some shit.
>When they have a baby will it be a steam?
Yes:
storyboard for a cut scene
Why do they always cut out stuff that explains shit?
Disney has a thing against implications that their characters have sex unless they're Simba or if they started the movie as parents (like the Incredibles).
You also don't want to explain everything in case there is a sequel. Sometimes you need to hold back a few good ideas for future planning.
the reason ember and wade can touch is because of the leidenfrost effect (which i called at the very beginning of the movie) which states that if a liquid comes into contact with something that is significantly hotter than it's boiling point the vapor cloud produced protects it so I'm thinking maybe either wade just keeps hydrated (lol) or sticks some ice in himself to give him more time before Leidenfrost kicks in
This is funny after watching the movie and realizing there was only one racist guy in it. Ember's father. And even that's kind of a stretch because you could say he was only protecting his daughter.
He's absolutely racist, but it's more of the old school natural xenophobia and not a specific learned behavior.
are those from different movies?
yeah ones Elemental the other is Moving In With the Montagues
I'd get burned for her.
all inaccurate because she's as flat as a board
but i care
Good for you then.
She's asian, so it's ethnic erasure.
And that's a good thing.
Nah, Off model is cringe.
She's an amorphous fire being. If waterman can put on a muscle man facade, she can blaze up some booba.
Or cute fox features.
Because I'm on a smartphone, and my eyes are so jank, I saw that thumbnail as her being pregnant.
She is now a latina
I'd go raw on her.
imagine how warm gooey and comfy that pussy must be
FRICK
>do it grip btw
your dick will melt
>at first it’s warm but it starts to burn
>to the point it’s painful, you try to pull out but she leg locks you, scorching your lower back as she smirks and says “Not until you “extinguish” me baby…”
Someone get me a damn fire resistance potion
Frick it, I'm going in raw.
"Raw" is what you're gonna BE when she's through with you.
Wouldn't I be "well done"?
I liked it, because it basically shits on traditional Chinese "culture".
We need more fire girls. They are always sizzling hot.
>watch Elemental
>meh
>but that erotic fire girl
How do they even mate? Do they just make genitals or something?
I want to put out in her chimney, if you take my meaning.
God imagine...
the smell...
Think of all the amazing smells you could make with her. I'd roast marshmallows on her all the time.
>the smell
Propane has no natural smell. It's an artificial additive.
Fire on its own doesn't have a smell, anon
Shame.
Her dress makes no sense as a safety garment. Metal would just radiate all that heat to her surroundings. She would need something like an asbestos winter coat.
Heat resistant metal.
Almost all metal is heat resistant, specifically because it propagates and radiates the heat. Which makes it useless as a garment a fire chick could wear to prevent from setting things on fire. There's a reason there are no chainmail kitchen mittens.
Firefox.
I will now jerk off to your character.
Hi, I’m Ember! *yip!* *yip!*
>Momma, I want firefox thing!
>We have firefox thing at Home, son...
>firefox thing at home
I don't know what this is but it is less cute.
So are waters black people? And dirt people must be Indians.
Cute!
It's gonna burn when you pee.
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb
imagine the fumes
Don't make the thread weird.
you made the thread weird by posting Ember in that pose.
It's a classic Marilyn Monroe pose.
how do you think her skirt blew up?
A stiff breeze from somewhere that is not her. You can see it affecting all parts of her body, all the way up to her head.
Give it up brapgays, you're not welcome here.
We are welcome in the ass threads
Go back there then.
but you are posting Ember's big butt.
I can like butts without liking farts. You people are defective.
no you are defective.
Her voice is so hot
The hottest.
Way too lewd.
this is ai isn't it?
Don't think so, does Rule34 allow AI stuff?
.xxx does
Well maybe it is then. But it is one of the better ones.
they actually did a fully naked production sketch.
Probably from when they were still deciding if anyone should have clothes or not.
How do her and Wade have sex?
another one
Definitely better that they went with the black clothing, it looks good on her.
Unironically, what do you think she smells like?
Firewood?
Propain?
Gasoline?
Napalm?
Do bunsens have scent?
Burnt hair?
Some other clever fire related thing I'm ignorant of?
I'd like to think they have a neutral scent naturally, but they burn things in themselves as a form of perfume/cologne.
Thats actually really clever, I like to think fire women burn one of those scent difusers in their cleavage before a date.
mom is hotter
I like her mom better.
This
I hate you fat gays with a passion.
Seeth & cope more skinny gay.
A burning passion? That may be why you're low in fat.
Remember your Fire resistance spells, lads
Does she go commando all the time? Surely her hot ass would burn her panties off
Watching the movie, she never once in it wears anything under the dress.
Are there ember upskirt shots? Is the movie worth watching if I want to see fire ass?
I think it's worth watching on its own. As far as upskirts, it's the age old question of "Are there upskirts in a world where no one wears pants?"
are you telling me this movie will give me animated fire girl ass?
Potentially.
Fire bros... how can we compete?
Ultra Combo him into oblivion
That's she because she's flaming.
CUTE
Nice
tee hee i get it, cuz she's made of fire
Extremely soulful movie
I agree
>Young girl travels the world with a foreigner to "find herself"
I don't like this.
she takes human men like a good girl
fricking lel
I didn't think this movie was popular enough to get Cinemaphile memes made of it.
My sides
What is this supposed to be referencing? Feels like a 90s comedy.
This homosexual Flip comic artist who's angry about not being white.
Thanks. This is the first time I see the comic with the original text, no wonder I didn't recognize the dialogue.
I actually laughed at the last pannel
The thing is, you're not meant to laugh, you're meant to sympathize with the Asian-American male plight.
Personally, I think all hyphenated Americans are moronic. America is the one country where you can be anything and be equally American because it's a nation made of a bunch of races and cultures. Unless you're a native, then you're super-American.
He's mostly upset that he's not a real Asian and so doesn't get the respect they get.
America isn't a country. It's an economic opportunity zone.
And where do you live?
America
Frick yeah.
Love this movie but have yet to find a fanart that makes her attractive.
I really liked this movie. Dunno why so many people were negative about it.
Elemental just looked really generic and uncreative at first glance. The execution saved it.
It really just looked like a Zootopia knockoff and the marketing tried to make it look like a generic kids' movie
The marketing definitely wasn't great, but I kind of get it. Kids aren't going to be into love stories, so they didn't really push that part of it as much and tried to make it look different.
The movie would work better as an episode in an Elemental TV series than a stand alone, 200 million dollar movie.
I don't think it needs to be a TV series, the story they told was just fine.
No, it would have worked better as a short movie.
I think it was cynicism due to Disney and Pixar's recent movies, like Lightyear, which was a stinker.
The basic premise sounds similar to other Pixar and Disney movies like Zootopia and Inside Out, with the big city of personified elements and star-crossed lovers. So it's be easy to think it's going to be a dull attempt at copying those previous successes from an ailing studio. Disney doing exactly that with their live action remakes doesn't help.
Like the other anon said, the execution saves it, but it's hard to show that in short trailers.
When I finally saw it, it far exceeded my expectations.
That probably why it "flopped" when it came out but then a month or two later there were a bunch of articles saying it actually did reasonably well. I guess word of mouth finally got around that it was actually a decent movie.
If they just cut the race metaphor, or at least acknowledge that the segregation was necessary, the movie would have been way better.
But they showed that the segregation wasn't necessary, and that the different elements could live together with just a few fairly minor considerations being made for each other.
Just because they showed it doesn't mean that it made sense. They established earlier that water elements damage the goods of the fire elements, and the fire elements damage the buildings of all other elements.
In the end, it shows all the other elements shopping at the fire store, but nothing changed. I'm guessing the only change is that the elements learn to be considerate and careful around each other, but like they could have always done that.
>I'm guessing the only change is that the elements learn to be considerate and careful around each other, but like they could have always done that.
Which was exactly the intended message, that it's up to people to make it work and they can if they want to.
Nah, I'm fine with it. Race allegories never completely work with the metaphor, so if you take things literally, like white people living in houses that instantly kill Asians, it's going to fall apart.
You just have to accept the metaphor isn't airtight and enjoy the story.
Ember's struggle feels more real with the comparison to real immigrants, and the story would lose something without it.
But that's the problem: they put the metaphor first over the story. The fire elements never acknowledge that they are an actual, objective problem for the other elements.
One way to show some kind of acknowledge that they are a problem is when they interact with other elements, they wear a fire moronant suit. Like when Ember and her dad went to the museum, they're in fire protective suits. But they're still denied entry anyway because the other elements still find it too dangerous.
Show us that the fire elements really are trying to integrate with society through the visual metaphor of the suit, and show the discrimination anyway by having them be denied.
>he fire elements never acknowledge that they are an actual, objective problem for the other elements.
The water elements are a bigger problem for the fire people, considering they can instantly accidently kill them at any time.
The fires came to their land, not the other way around.
OK But What Happens If She Farts
She doesn't.
frick you
Curse You
Bless you. No internal organs, 100% pussy.
Unless you're Water, you're not her type
I'm 70% water.
Fire+Water = Steam
Fire+Earth = lava
Fire+Wind = ?
>following kekkei genkai kino
It would be blaze.
>Weeb moron thinks about weeb shit instead of actual real world things
Steam is literally heat and water and Lava is nothing but extremely hot earth.
Fire Devil.
Going by flash games I used to play, it should be energy or lighting or something like that
Lightning, the fire in the sky.
Cute dork.
She's not a dork.
Coal burning hips right there
They're the same?
Not really
Cute
She's burning hot. I'm sweating.
Cause if it's REEEEEEAAAAAAAAL...
the ESG theme song
Fat assed fire women
Would.
Nice
Would
I don't like it.
theoretically speaking, there is nothing stopping her from making her face into a fox snout. she's made of fire.
Built for BCC (Big Clod wiener)
Earth would have been more compatible than water. Dirt and stone will at least avoid evaporation.
Don't frick fire
I'm gonna.
Based.
I MUST
Post fire waifus from wherever
Ember is the best flame waifu
Are there even others?
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