Emma would make an amazing Batgirl

She could play Barbara and mentor Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown in a Batgirls movie.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Could you save her?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If only. But if she's ever up for lunch or a coffee date, I'm game.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      i can't even save my self

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If I win the lottery I am proposing marriage.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      She'd be the one saving me

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      she actually would have been a good Selina Kyle
      or maybe Poison Ivy
      in a Batman tv series
      dunno if she is film-tier actress

      I'd give her a hug and a kiss on the head

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    She'd fare better in an MCU role. Maybe as Lorna again.

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I would suck and lick her nipples if they were very hairy.

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    with Kim Doyeon as Cass Cain and McKenna Grace as Stephanie Brown

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >McKenna Grace as Stephanie Brown
      Seeing her chest fill out....I'm actually ok with this for once

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bah wrong one

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Kim Doyeon as Cass Cain
      Would fap.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No way doytoy's DSLs will fit inside the mask

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        DSLs you say?

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think she's about to snap, bros. She's 1.5 weeks away from being evicted, and she's about to lose her part time job at a children's golf camp because she keeps getting into stupid fights with her boss.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      she can live with me!!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      How do you know this?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Her latest instagram post?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Nolan cuts her out because of his probably unfair set rules
      >Gets into fights with her boss
      Based Emma not a mindless worker drone who will such management dick to keep her job when they're hypocrites or related

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >She's 1.5 weeks away from being evicted
      she doesn't have enough money to pay rent from all the acting she does? she was just in a nolan movie

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was like a bit part, probably making scale for 1 day of shooting, and she hasn't worked much in the past 2 years. She's currently doing part time shit delivering for amazon, and is currently doing like some kind of temp gig as a camp counselor at a golf camp for children in the mornings.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        She should spend it on a lawyer to get her crazy mother committed.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >She's 1.5 weeks away from being evicted
      Did she leave a dollar amount for the rent she needs? I was going to wait before making another ebay purchase, but if she needs it...

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I offered her a lot of money for her used panties.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      wtf how come she doesn't have paypgs has she considered vydas/streaming?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        She does Cameo. Has a patreon. And sells her clothes on ebay. bought a dress since I thought it would look good on a friend of mine for a photo shoot

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          is she selling gym clothing, preferably unwashed? asking for a friend

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I offered her a lot of money for her used panties.

            Imagine the smell

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I think she's about to snap, bros. She's 1.5 weeks away from being evicted, and she's about to lose her part time job at a children's golf camp because she keeps getting into stupid fights with her boss.

      She's not at Amazon anymore?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      she needs to start an OnlyFans, it's the only option

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's the most enticing one!

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone know if the rest of the how and why episodes are on her paetreon?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean "the rest" There are only the 4 available and they're just up on apple podcasts/youtube or whatever.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's only two on her youtube and she alluded to future episodes

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    pubes status?

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Every post I see her make just makes her seem so naive and sheltered. Welcome to the real world, Emma. It socks, but we have to take care of ourselves before we can do anything about everything else. And the world conspires to keep us from doing that much.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      it also gloves

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    She would be better in a sex scene filled Erotic Thriller. TOTAL CAPESLOP DEATH!

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Emma would make an amazing Batgirl
    Emma have a background in dance?
    the character is a master fighter

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Barbara and Cassandra Cain have Ballet in common in the comics, but it’s not capitalized upon. With Emma's background it could make for a heartwarming moment.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      homie. This is a Emma thread. Have you never heard of Bunheads?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This almost seems like a bait post to get people to post webms of Emma dancing. Of which I sadly have none, but by all means I hope other people post them.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >background in dance
      I’ve got the perfect choice

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Batgirl
    Imagine caring about such a boring moronic thing

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hey, with the one movie being memory holed to oblivion, I want a fresh start for my favorite redhead. Okay?

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    She could be selling gummi worms and haribo bears she kept in her ass and you'd be buying them by the pound but that won't restart her career. She needs to get in shape and glam it up a bit.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I unironically would buy and eat these

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      The problem is she's become a PR nightmare on social media over the course of being bored during the pandemic and not working. The only circles she could get into in the public eye now are the political commentator ones, and the problem with that is that her takes are incredibly naive and basic.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >and the problem with that is that her takes are incredibly naive and basic.
        It's kind of endearing in a way, lends her an air of innocence.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Literal who?

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Let me guess... female Magneto?

    I hope she eaved her money.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Magneto's daughter, actually. And no, she didn't save her money.

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Who the frick is Emma

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's Emma.
      Emma Roberts.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Best Emma Roberts..

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        She wishes. Roberts is far uglier

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    She looks and acts like trailer trash girls that subsist on chips and weed. All she's missing is some hoodrat boyfriend that lingers around in the background semi-passed out on a couch.

    Nobody is going to hire for anything if she at the very least doesn't start looking presentable when posting social media stuff.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >All she's missing is some hoodrat boyfriend that lingers around in the background semi-passed out on a couch.
      I VOLUNTEER!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I rather like how she looks with her face filled out a bit. She was too emaciated before.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        she is perfectly cute

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        she needs to get bucced

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's got the moves! <3

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's dancing around like that nutty girl who worked on that superhero tv show for the cw

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Too late to play Elizabeth

      🙁

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        god damn you're right. The role she was born to play

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    this b***h looks like reviewbrah

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm still wondering if this is always you who posts this, or if just many people have noticed.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's one dude and you gave him his first (You) for his efforts.

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Capeshit needs to die, just let it die

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Please. I am already in love.

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >28 years old
    I'm surprised you guys aren't in here calling her a post-wall roastie

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's not a roasite because she is like within their reach.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, she's still an actress, and probably has some standards. I doubt a fan of hers would have a chance.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm nearly 40

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not quite 'nearly 40' but I'm older than Emma, and wish she would let me help her.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not quite 'nearly 40' but I'm older than Emma, and wish she would let me help her.

        I don't care dude I'm almost 50.

        Good for you guys. Better than the anons on here obsessively following teenagers. I was just surprised.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          only on Cinemaphile do you get
          >congratulations on not being overtly a pedophile.
          Thanks though, I guess.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Thanks though, I guess.
            Sorry if that was awkward or backhanded or whatever. If it makes you feel any better, I'm 24 and mostly into old women.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't care dude I'm almost 50.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not quite 'nearly 40' but I'm older than Emma, and wish she would let me help her.

        I'm nearly 40

        Buncha old pervs itt.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm allowed to simp for a girl who's only 4 years younger than me when I'm in my 30's, thank you. My last gf was 9 years younger than me... huh maybe I am an old perv actually?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >stabler.jpg
          >SHE WAS 28 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FRICK

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's looking rough, but it's nothing she can't turn around.

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      the world needs cuteness
      whatever is going wrong in Emmas life we need to help her
      can we try to contact casting agents or producers? or contribute to some sort of gofundme?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        She posts gofundmes for friends but not herself yet. Emma, please. If you truly are in need, let yourself be helped.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's funny because the gofundme's she posts barely get any donations.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        She has a patreon

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          does she post anything lewd on it?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, it's mostly her ranting about how her boss is about to fire her because she wanted to give kids a drink of water.
            She does say "I love you" to the listener a lot though.
            The downside is that her life is falling apart and she isn't keeping to the schedule she committed to (no video today for example, or thursday, and another one of last week's videos was late) and I assume she feels bad about it which is going to make her feel like more of a loser. But I hope she knows it's okay for her to not post every single day.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >She does say "I love you" to the listener a lot though.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >She does say "I love you" to the listener a lot though.
              Ah... my heart! I know she's just being sweet, but at least I can hear the words.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              She should update her schedule to allow her some breathing room. It can be hard to stick to a regular schedule in the best of times

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Does she explain what happened to the how and why podcast

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                NTA but I don't think anything's happened, it seems to be on a weekly schedule now.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                She's probably working on the next one as we speak.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                This

                NTA but I don't think anything's happened, it seems to be on a weekly schedule now.

                I don't think there's any story, she's just in the process of making them. She just released a couple in quick succession but I don't think the plan was to do them like every day.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >how her boss is about to fire her because she wanted to give kids a drink of water.
              i thought she was an actress

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                She has to do odd jobs cause she can't find work as an actress. Idk why no one will cast her. Well now there's the writer's strike. She also turned down a role cause it required nudity.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Well now there's the writer's strike
                Had an actor on the bus complain about being out of work because of it. Wonder how bad things will get. The studios aren't likely to buckle when they can replace everyone with AI.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >She also turned down a role cause it required nudity.
                That's too bad. I'm all for gratuitous nudity, but she would look beautiful if it was something tasteful too.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                She talks about it here https://youtu.be/H8iGmMukUfg?t=3865

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, Emma. I hope she makes it, lads. And if she does deign to show us her body, I hope it's part of a project she can be proud of.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >She also turned down a role cause it
                I guess she wants to be homeless.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's always wage slaving. She'd make a ton of tips with her sweet disposition as a waitress.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Getting a job as a waitress in LA I imagine is super competitive

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The frick did she do with all the money she earned when she was acting? Dumbass women are financially moronic.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                She wasn’t earning big bucks she stars in relatively small stuff and was supporting her crazy mom while living in expensive af LA

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Even a regular role on a TV show isn't enough for LA Rent. And she probably didn't have a modest apartment.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                the tv shows she was on weren't paying millions per episode
                and her parents or manager probably stole what she did make

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Momagers are the worst for this. Always so entitled.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Her parents were stealing all of her money

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                When you're that pretty you're not homeless, you're sucking some dude's dick for rent.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                she's 100% my type
                god, she's so cute

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Why didnt you save her, Cinemaphile?

                im not rich and i don't live in US

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
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                Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                99% of actors have part time jobs idiot.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Not actors people KNOW though.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >She does say "I love you" to the listener a lot though
              I really hope someone picks her up to do an audiobook. She has the perfect voice for it, and I want to hear her say more.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The downside is that her life is falling apart
              >downside
              That's like her main appeal.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                She also has pretty eyes. Gorgeous smile. A rapturous voice. Goddammit... I think I have it bad, lads.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Will never have an Emma gf

                🙁

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                She has ayylmao eyes, like that other actress everyone here obsesses over, Ana-Taylor Joy or whatever the frick her name is. You incels have some weird tastes.

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Emma's singing makes me feel warm inside https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sj4sTB5EdNA

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      imagine if she put out an album and Cinemaphile neets went to the bars and coffee shops she performed at for her tour

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >embryos cannot give informed consent
    kek based cute schizo

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I get the feeling she'd make a good mother once she works through some issues.

  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Emma pulls off the female supervillain look really well

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      She'd make a good sorceress in a fantasy flick too.

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >forced by her mother to go on a date with a 17 year old and kiss him
    so the kid was the son of some big shot producer right?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lucky guy.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want to kiss Emma.

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    emma!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >HIPS
      A true successor to Yvonne.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is what we deserve

      Why didnt you save her, Cinemaphile?

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      Cute!

      …That’s not Emma

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cute!

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because she's batshit insane?

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nope. We need established actresses not nobodies.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      She's A List in my heart.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah but your heart is probably all fatty and fricked up and you don’t matter as a person:

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Which Emma is this?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Dumont(Roberts)

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn, she looks ravishing in red with how pale she is.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, I love it, I need more pics of her from that day

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        damn, look at those lips and legs. i want her to frenchkiss me and choke me with those legs

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This is what we deserve

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why didnt you save her, Cinemaphile?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Would that I could. I'm living at home myself.

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Emma, I will hire you to be my secretary for 125k a year. You must wear open toed shoes, non negotiable.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I would love to put her in six inch heels.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        and i'd love to put six inches in her, if you know what i mean

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        and i'd love to put six inches in her, if you know what i mean

        Emma does't do that kind of stuff. She is a very nice lady who needs foot rubs everyday

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >ywn ask Emma about how her day was while massaging her feet

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I haven't given up hope, one day I'll post candids of her foota on Cinemaphile... I believe.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              god, i wish that door was me

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I can save her, I promise

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                godspeed
                do it for all of us

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                rare

                I haven't given up hope, one day I'll post candids of her foota on Cinemaphile... I believe.

                I would love to paint her blue like the avatars
                she is incredibly gorgeous and deserves a better deal than what shes currently got

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous
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                Anonymous
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                Anonymous
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                Anonymous
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                Anonymous
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                Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                HHHHHNNNNNGGGGG

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                peak ribs
                peak tummy
                peak armpits
                i would marry emma

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                My pp
                Her tummy
                Nuf said

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                muh dick

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                how the frick is she single

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                She’s probably lesbian or a huge c**t

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          A-are those hairy arms? Foooook that's my weakness

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sex scene with Emma?

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    rare

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Tall girls were made for tall heels.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel so lonely bros

  40. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  41. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    just imagine how thick her thighs and belly are getting now that she is carb loading poor people food

  42. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope she's having sweet dreams tonight.

  43. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't get it, she really can't even get stuff like cellphone or wendys commercials? Or car insurance or something? Just to pay the bills for now.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      These ads only hire black people or gays

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        No she'd play the black guy's wife or the mom of a black kid, of course.

  44. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >had some nice boobies even when she was skeleton mode
      >tall
      >wide hips
      >high IQ
      She has perfect genetics. Is bad parenting enough to frick it all up so badly? I never even stood a chance than...

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>high IQ
        you simp homosexuals really are fricking moronic

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      AI or shop?

  45. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  46. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Emma would make an amazing wiener sleeve

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      big if true

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Legs for Miles

  47. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    this loser always posts about worst Emma so early in the morning I can only assume he's European

    frick off moron

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You mean the guy who posts about Emma Watson in the archives?

  48. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    She was like a beautiful mantid before she bloated up.

  49. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unsightly

  50. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should Emma sell her soul and come to Cinemaphile for help? We're the only ones obsessed and invested enough to do anything.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      She should come to me
      You guys would just use her for dirty things

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well, yeah. Cleaning my dad's boat is gonna be messy but we could use the extra help.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >boat
          Your subconscious betrayed you you cowardly sex fiend, you say boat as if it's a Mike Rowe you're planning but in reality you want to take her to international waters. I don't even want to begin to imagine the kinds of depraved things you are planning.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >depraved things
            Like fishing together and then cuddling and kissing under the warm blanket, while the waves gently rock the boat and you both look into the starlit sky, and then she rests her head on your chest and tells you in between the sobs how much you've helped her turn her life around when all seemed lost, and you'd just say that you love her, gently stroking her hair and holding her close, wanting this moment to last forever? Right?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              A plan like that would only work in international waters. I see you've thought this through. I just remember the brave people of the Coast Guard never rest. They are always patrolling the high seas ready at a moments notice to snap into action and ensure the safety of all. Don't be surprised if you get a rude awakening before you came emotionally nurture the poor girl on open waters.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >t. jealous puddle pirate that wants to steal her from me

  51. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If she's so hard up for money, maybe she should sell some of those fancy clothes.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      thats literally what shes been doing
      ive already bought a jacket and boots off her ebay

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You should send them back to her.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Still waiting on her to sell her bra or panties.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'd be happy if her used clothes keep some of her scent.

  52. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    You fricking simps make any excuse to defend her bad life choices.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I can fix her. I can fix here in a safe place like the landlocked state of Idaho. Away from the horrors of Hollywood...

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who is defending her choices? She's just been dealt a bad hand.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        She just proves that having shitty parents will frick you up no matter what qualities you personally have. I relate to her strongly. God, I wish we could just whine about our upbringing together...

  53. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    QRD?
    i dont pay attention to movie stars so i dont know who this is or whats the big deal.
    all im gathering is that she is supposedly about to be homeless.
    how can an actress be homeless?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      she's the latest /ourqueen/

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        im gathering that. but why and how is what i wanna know.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          She's Emma Dumont, an out of work actress that doxxed herself on a tiktok video showing her resume, an anon prank called her using a website and her reaction was heart meltingly adorable.

  54. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bump

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Looks like we've been autosaged yet again, Emmabros...

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