>epic battle scene
>thousands of people slaughtering each other
>hero character and villain character always seem to find each other
>they have enough to time to monologue and duel
>no other soldiers surrounding them try to strike them down
>epic battle scene. >thousands of people slaughtering each other
Because ancient warfare is really easy. Just walk around everyone fighting until you find your main target. Not that hard.
correct
just circle strafe or crouch roll until you get to your target
what would you do if you were in the middle of a war, and you looked and saw two guys monologuing at eachother? Would you really want to be the dick who interrupted that?
i would just fall over in the charge at the beginning and pretend i sprained my ankle and then join in once were winning or get a head start to flee if we start losing
>Gets runover by his comrades, or noticed by the reserve forces for being a b***h
Your best shot at survival is for your side to win, so you actually have a vested interest in being aggressive and staying disciplined. If your side breaks formation and starts scattering, you're going to have a bad time.
nah man, i ain't about that charging life i just want the social benefits of being a soldier
you're getting put front and center of the phalanx
>Gets executed for cowardice
>gets every man in his company 100 lashes each for his cowardice
Shamefur dispray
Yeah they follow the samurai code maybe look it up CHUD
Fricking moron should have had his giant throwing tree trunks at the Boltons or at least used him as something other than a foot soldier but bigger.
they should of encased the giant in 3 inch thick plate armour, how the frick would they stop him
>wears 1000lbs of steel
push him over
With what?
10 guys with polearms or spears
throw a big net over his head
run up behind him and tie his legs together because it takes him an hour and 350 meter radius to make a full turn
you're so fricking stupid it's not even funny
>3 inches of plate makes you unstoppable
>no it doesn't
>YOU ARE SO STUPID
???
They could have done literally anything with the giant except what they ended up doing in the episode. A barn door as a shield, a tree trunk as a club, they could have salvaged one of the enormous bows the giants were using last season. I was surprised that the Boltons didn't even react to the giant; this mythical beast appears on the field and it was as if it was just another day.
Instead the giant just ran in unarmed with his fists and we got THIS for a battle.
If was in game of thrones and started a house I would call it "House Stinky" and name all my lords "Lord Poo Poo" or "Lord Fart Smell" and my sigil would be a poo with a fly on it and I would wear brown colours and make all my men dip their swords in poo and fire massive frozen turds soaked in wet turds and piss out of catapults and feed all my men and horses curry and make them drink standing water so they always had dysentry
Every episode of Vikings
Why did they all speak in accented English?
Jon Snow plot armour was a hilarity, how did anyone took this seriously
people are smart enough not to approach a hero with massive plot armor
This wikipedia excerpt cites Kaegi's book about Heraclius that recounts the battle (the "[5]" in the greentext). It is the only book cited in the entire article. The book itself makes 0 mention of this 1v1 fight or beheading. The actual claims about this 1v1 don't have a citation at all in the wikipedia article.
It is literally made up.
In IRL battles like these where Were King/Prince Important Heads
>do they start the battle in the front then back off
really does vary in each battle depending on the type of battle and which leaders. towards the end of the middle ages and early renaissance they started to just hang at the back as their strategists realised their importance of being alive. the last english monarch to die in battle was richard III who led a charge across bosworth to try and kill henry vii when he realised he was losing. if he killed henry then his men would have no reason to fight. he got killed when his charge got stopped by a block of mercenary french pikemen
Did anyone ever try using tripwires to stop a cavalry charge?
cavalry wouldn't charge directly into a wall of spears like this, they'd try to flank while infantry engages at the front
so what does the infantry do, turn the whole formation in a circle to keep facing the horses?
I don't know anon there's hundreds of possible scenarios, all I know is in that scene it was just horses charging a line of guys with sharp sticks and in the movie it lost them the battle
depends on the era, the army and the commander
So tripping them somehow was never tried?
I think that wire or rope that could withstand a cavalry charge while also being small enough to avoid notice didn't exist.
If it even exists now. I'm not a physicist.
It wouldn't have to stand up to the whole charge, just frick up the first few and send them tumbling causing a massive horse pile up.
I guess.
They'd use earthworks and stakes to deter cavalry charges, so I'm going guess that tripping was unfeasible.
>hey look they have a bunch of ropes clearly laid out to trip our horses
>crap well I guess we just don't charge blindly into that and instead use our advantage of speed and go around
hmmmm
Dig a bunch of small holes around your infantry formation to break the horses legs. Cover them with grass or shit so they're not as visible. Hmmm.
They used to use caltrops, ditches full of spikes, pikes, and walls of sharpened stakes. Funny enough we actually still technically do this with anti tank defenses only its less about impaling tanks and more just making it hard for them to move down certain paths. A simple tripwire wouldn't be strong enough to stop an entire heard of horses at full charge.
You were almost there. What essentially killed Cavalry was the invention of barbed wire. Its ease of transportation and the fact that it would cut and get stuck on both horse and rider alike would completely halt the charge
the whole point of heavy armor like plate is to use its weight in tandem with horse for charge
heavy armored foot soldiers is a myth
>heavy armored foot soldiers is a myth
literal moron
okay? so how would they afford it? and not afford a horse?
huh moron?
NTA but
It's muddy and the conditions aren't great for cavalry.
>Oh well those 300 knights can just do nothing then.
a moron shouldnt call others a moron
Plate armor wasn't heavy lol. A full suit would be around 45-50 pounds. Soldiers could get that heavy with just cloth armor at times.
The benefit of a horse is speed and mass. In the American Civil War, many wouldn't bother sharpening their sabres because hitting a man with a swung piece of steel while galloping at 20-25 mph would do enough damage regardless of sharpness.
>Poorest region in the continent
>Barely 3rd richest house on the region
>All your soldiers have standardized armor and weapons
Yes plate armor wasn't heavy, but it was expensive for the common footman, thus we only started seeing mass infantry with plate armor in the late medieval period after some Milanese galaxy brain blacksmith saw a way to make it more affordable
> Wearing 45-50 pounds for potentially hours while running/fighting
> not heavy
How fricking dense are you?
You have about 100 pounds of fat on you and you somehow get around. And you're not even a fit knight.
That's half of what many modern soldiers wear in combat. You are an out of shape midwit.
> modern soldiers
> running around continuously fighting for hours without a break
Pick one. I'm in the military you fricking assclown. You think the guys I'm that kit are in a constant firelight and fire-moving for hours straight?
Go strap a 20kg chest rig on and run around for 20 minutes, see how gassed you are by the end.
>he thinks knights were moving hours on end
Holy lmao
knight is a mounted unit
dumbass
A dismounted knight would be in combat for at least 30 minutes. My original point is that anyone discounting 20kg as 'light' in that context has no concept of wearing weight while doing arduous exercise
You simple c**t
I wear a 20kg weighted vest while hiking and it's easy
I bet you're just a femboy
It’s not heavy when distributed across your body. You will tire more quickly but if you are athletic you absolutely will not notice the difference without considerable exertion.
>I'm in the military you fricking assclown.
That explains it, let me guess, 92G?
Australian so no idea wtf that means
> walking up a hill
> same as doing extremely arduous tasks like hand to hand combat.
moron confirmed
You've clearly never done any real hiking
>I'm in the military you fricking assclown.
>t. E1
Australian, dunno what that is
I've done plenty, it's why I know you're a dumbfrick for comparing them
E1 is enlisted rank one, a private.
>Australian, dunno what that is
We have that system in New Zealand, and considering that our military is the same as yours organisationally if you don't know it you aren't military.
We just have PTE, PTE(P), LCPL, CPL etc.
I know we have the numbers system for Officers (O3 for CAPT etc), but I've never seen it for ORs. We go by ECNs since each corps is different.
How is firing the F88? Wish you guys still had the old DPCU, I love the palate and pattern
I don't like the bullpup design tbh, much prefer M4. The EF88 (new version we got in about 2017) is pretty good though. The bipod and sights are great compared to the old version.
Nah AMCU is where it's at.
I'd like to own an AUG at some point, ARs are so common in the states. It's interesting seeing so much of the Western world adopt Multicam derivatives, even the French are in the process. AMCU seems like an improvement over the naval DPCU; thank God the 2000's trend of navies and air forces adopting moronic recolors of existing patterns is dying out.
I know Air Force here in Aus adopted the blue AMCUs because previously they had done domestic aid (flood assist etc) and people were mistaking them for Army.
Higher ups in air force got shitty that the service was having its recognition stolen by army, so brought in the blue AMCUs to avoid it.
You can't make this shit up
Oh man, that sounds very similar. When the Marines rolled out Marpat, the Army, Air Force, and Navy felt that they needed to have their own digital patterns to seem properly futuristic and to distinguish their branch for recruiting, so they adopted UCP, ABU, and NWU type 1, all of which were shitcanned
You are either not in the military or have nothing to do with combat. Yes men carry that INTO battle. They are wearing that for hours straight, in a combat scenario. Stop larping you fricking homosexual.
Its ridiculous to me that some random fat ameritard lectures a noble European such as me who had aristocratic ancestors that owned a castle and had a lake named after them. All your books and history are fake and you lecture me?
So you're an inbred? Probably why you're so fricking stupid.
>So you're an inbred? Probably why you're so fricking stupid.
If you're descended from aristocrats, yes, you are an inbred you stupid monkey c**t.
>If you're descended from aristocrats, yes, you are an inbred you stupid monkey c**t.
Very original pic, monkey c**t. Why do you come here every day to seethe about Americans? Was your j visa denied again?
Proof or you're a larping homosexual
shame you're here on Cinemaphile and not living in that castle anymore anon
>heavy armored foot soldiers is a myth
By the early 15th century most Western Knights fought on foot more than as heavy cavalry you literal moron
this is a myth
No it's the truth. Holy shit one bombastic moron saying dozens of people are wrong. Read about agincourt you subhuman moron zoomer
>just more fantasy nonsense
grow up anon, I bet you think dragons were real too
What? Agincourt was a real battle you complete utter moron. What the frick are you on about
sure anon whatever you say
>act like moron
>heh I'm such a good troll
>source: trust me over the thousands of written accounts of battle eyewitnesses of those eras bro
I'll bet you're one of the people who thinks that swords weighed 10 pounds and that they're the best weapon that existed in that time period
>pounds
dumb amerishit spotted
Why do you offer your views on topics when you know literally nothing?
your mother
What I really hated was in aquaman when they established they needed to do exactly that quickly because once the bad guy was defeated the fighting would stop
then they stopped for 10 seconds to kiss, it was a really pretty shot but a lot of extra people died while it was happening
it's what your mom calls my shaft while your dad sits and cries while a shoot a giant load up her butthole then your dad comes and she shits my jizz and a bunch of shit mixed with lube into your homosexual dads gaping mouth
>cinematic battle scene
>it’s just a chaotic and disorganized melee
The thing I hated most about this fight was how, at the start, each side had maybe a few thousand men, but then all of a sudden there's a literal mountain of corpses. That corpse pile would have more bodies than both sides combined. Completely ridiculous.
The homosexual showrunners even said that they were inspired by stories of corpse piles like that from the First World War. As though the numbers are even remotely comparable.
>make medieval show
>get inspiration from ww1 battles
lmao
Every episode directed by that hack is just "badass" video game shit
>buy huge magnet
>enemy knights charge at me
>get sucked onto giant magnet
lmao how the frick is medieval warfare real
Both sides dismounted for the most part but the french had some mounted knights. The english knights fought shoulder to shoulder in huge battle lines four or five men deep.
They also don't need to wear helmets.
there's stories like this in Livy's rome histories and plutarch
Bows mog your armor
>is that plate armor being worn by a noble trained since childhood? IMMMMMM GONNA PIERCEEEEEEE!!!
It could pierce chain mail, not plate armour. And crossbowmen were still well trained burghers usualy, even if they didn't stack up to English yeomen chads.
eisenstein did it best with alexander nevsky
Jon just standing there while a cavalry charge is going to get him has to be the stupidest shit on television as well as him surviving it.
Battle of the Bastards was poorly shot overhype shit with deus ex from Sansa
Hardhome was a better episode
I love medieval fantasy shows with leather armor and torches and muddy peasants spewing endless modern vulgarity with a strong English working class accent
What is the greatest on-screen medieval battle?
This happened irl when Spartacus fought Crassus.
>Spartacus spots Crassus across the field of battle
>makes eye contact
>dismounts his horse and kills it
>"I won't need it anymore where I'm going"
>makes a beeline for Crassus killing everyone he fights along the way
>kills 2 of Crassus' personal guard
>centurion runs his gladius through his chin out the top of his head only a few feet from Crassus