>biggest in the world >still the size of a closet
It is absolutely fricking insane that anyone thought this would be a good idea. It sounds interesting on paper, but you immediately run into issues shooting scenes that don't feel claustrophobic. And when your whole show is shot like that, it looks like shit.
It works as great when it's enclosed space. But using it as stage for whole time is stupid. Especially when you have vast open space or need lot of movement.
Main issue is how to light it. You can't shine light against it. That's why mandalorian s1 was so dark. That's why batman was so dark. And that's why colours of this show look off.
You can see In mandalorian in few episodes where its out in open and it looks all washed up and dim. Even when it's mid day.
That's what you get when you use technology just because it's innovative rather than because its strengths are required to complete a shot. Shows that don't know how to capitalize on the volume (and know how to restrain themselves) is the new age of CGI creatures looking worse than Davy Jones.
so it's total junk and you mean to say they got the actor's face lighting completely wrong for all the scenes and the LED box didn't help at all???!!!????
>Maybe a show that relies on animated action as its core appeal doesn't translate well to live action? Just a thought.
They contacted actual martial artists, every move in the show can be performed by a human
There aren't any writers left in Hollywood capable of writing about anything other than their period's. Adapting cartoons is literally all that's left.
>Zuko, my son, how do we defeat the Earth Kingdom? >The people of the Earth Kingdom are resilient, they won't give up unless they completely lose hope- >So you're saying I should kill every person in the Earth Kingdom? >What? No, I- >Zuko, you're a genius. Prep the zeppelins, we've got a continent to torch!
He is one of the worst villains ever. Zero development.
Sozin's Comet has a lot of moronation in it, people forget that the original cartoon makes some baffling decisions of its own. It peaks in the Book 2 finale, Crossroads Of Destiny is elite.
Yes, season 3 sucked.
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I'm not convinced a villain needs development. He's practically not even a main character, he works great for what he is and what he needs to do. If he took center stage it would be awful, so if that's what you mean yeah, I agree.
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>it's supposed to be bad!
Imagine having Zuko as one of the main characters are not exploring his dynamic with his father.
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>the villain isn’t a main character
This is what happens to your brain when you watch gay cartoons for children. Any understanding of drama in a mature sense is completely gone.
He is one of the worst villains ever. Zero development.
[...]
Yes, season 3 sucked.
He's a cartoonishly evil goofball. I know a lot of older people want to project back and pretend that Avatar was some ultra-deep, well-written show, but this was a Nickelodeon cartoon that aired when we were 10 years old. Sometimes a villain who's just an evil jackass for shits and giggles is exactly what a story needs.
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He didn't even confront Aang before the final battle. He is boring. Not even anime-tier villain.
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they did a good job using him sparingly and keeping him mysterious the first few seasons, but by s3 he needed more. definitely needed something to make his final confrontation with Aang carry any weight.
Sozin's Comet has a lot of moronation in it, people forget that the original cartoon makes some baffling decisions of its own. It peaks in the Book 2 finale, Crossroads Of Destiny is elite.
>some baffling decisions >some
The show is a dumpster fire if you hold a lens to it. From a story and character motivations perspective. But there's plenty to like and it is *meant* for 12 year olds so, ya know.
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>The show is a dumpster fire if you hold a lens to it. From a story and character motivations perspective.
Like?
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I watched it when it came out, mostly for the animations and combat sequences.
The characters were fun for a kid's show, but I never understood the deification it received ever since.
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it had just enough orientialism and superficial fortune-cookie wisdom that is appealing to all ages
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>superficial fortune-cookie wisdom that is appealing to all ages
Zuko, you have to look within yourself to save yourself from your other self, only then will your true self reveal itself
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One day people will admit Korra was an improvement.
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>fat breasts >big booty >incredible Cinemaphile body >dumb as a rock
Korra should have been a prostitute, not the Avatar.
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Over the live action maybe.
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Korra is an adult so you can browse Cinemaphile threads about her without worrying about ending up on some kind of federal watch list because of some goober's fanart. That is literally the only improvement she represents over the original show.
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>without worrying about ending up on some kind of federal watch list
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The only good thing about Korra is the porn, the show is awful.
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No 12 year old would opt to watch this over the cartoon so it even fails at that.
>people forget that the original cartoon makes some baffling decisions of its own
Like the fact that the Fire Nation is somehow able to invade the Water Tribe...by boat.
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I mean, the entire reason the Fire Nation can do half the shit they do, and why they're such a serious threat, is that the element they control essentially allowed them to speedrun the Industrial Revolution while the whole rest of the world was still essentially medieval in tech level. It makes sense that their navy, composed of steel warships, would pose a problem even for people who control water.
I guess in theory the waterbenders of the Northern Water Tribe could have all banded together and tried to sink the ships at sea.
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>It makes sense that their navy, composed of steel warships, would pose a problem even for people who control water.
A single iceberg sunk the Titanic just by scraping up against it, and even Industrial Revolution-era steamships could find themselves at the mercy of currents.
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The titanic could've survived if it had firebenders to get rid of the iceberg.
If you think it was shit, then you have an opinion to match. Cowboy Bebop, now THAT was a jet of streaming shit, Jesus fricking Christ. I’m going to give Avatar a shot despite what random people said, you should always form your own opinions. Titles like critic, or reviewer, are just bullshit words to make you think the person matters. Watch for yourself, think for yourself, or don’t bother talking at all.
Americans have a weird obsession with having to turn everything into live action in order to "legitimize" it.
It's genuinely kind of pathetic.
Japs pump out their fair share of live action garbage based on properties that clearly aren't made for it, but you'll rarely see someone forego watching a decent anime in order to watch its live action version over there.
The way to go about it is to make an semi-original story in the setting. It was for a manga not an animation, but Edge of Tomorrow showed exactly how to do this right.
Reminder the purpose of streamingshit is not to make something good, it's just to make something. Just take a name people recognise and pump some garbage out. Doesn't matter how bad it is, doesn't matter that nobody will ever watch it again a week after it airs. It keeps normalgays subbed for another month.
THE COSTUMES LOOKED SO FRICKING FAKE LIKE SUPER CLEAN AND FOLDED AND NEVER LIVED IN. LIKE A cheap fricking high school play.
im never gonna be able to unseee it if i watch this trash
also the woman behind this is the one who did fricking "warrior Nun" a shit show that i watched because Alpa Babtisa is a fricking hot and she leaked her nudes accidentally in insta when she ment to send them to Chris evans
>THE COSTUMES LOOKED SO FRICKING FAKE LIKE SUPER CLEAN AND FOLDED AND NEVER LIVED IN. LIKE A cheap fricking high school play.
This is nearly universal nowdays, makes modern media mostly unwatchable as far as I'm concerned. No idea what happened to good costume design.
Yeah I've been harping on this for a while. I think it comes down to people being hired for positions where they aren't that passionate. Looking at behind the scenes stuff from the 70s, 80s, 90s... you really got the impression everyone as a collective cared about everything. There's this prominent cope that "only the best media" gets remembered but the crazy thing is even "mediocre" movies of decades past absolutely wipe the floor with today's trash media.
I'd say it's even more recent than that. Compare the costumes from LOTR/Napoleon tv show (early 2000s), Rome (late 2000s) and Game of Thrones (early 2010s) to Netflix Witcher/Napoleon movie (late 2010s/early 2020s). The difference in costume quality, which theoretically shouldn't have been that big of an expense in the grand scheme of things, is just staggering. And going beyond fantasy/period pieces and looking at sci-fi or superhero movies, compare Iron Man (2008) to Madame Web (2024).
Something happened in the last 10 years and I have no idea what it is.
>THE COSTUMES LOOKED SO FRICKING FAKE LIKE SUPER CLEAN AND FOLDED AND NEVER LIVED IN. LIKE A cheap fricking high school play.
This is nearly universal nowdays, makes modern media mostly unwatchable as far as I'm concerned. No idea what happened to good costume design.
Yeah I've been harping on this for a while. I think it comes down to people being hired for positions where they aren't that passionate. Looking at behind the scenes stuff from the 70s, 80s, 90s... you really got the impression everyone as a collective cared about everything. There's this prominent cope that "only the best media" gets remembered but the crazy thing is even "mediocre" movies of decades past absolutely wipe the floor with today's trash media.
My theory is that costume departments have been infiltrated by instagram cosplay roasties.
Cosplays have to look as cartoony and artificial as possible to be close to the character as possible. And this mindset translates into film costumes, making everything look unreal.
Just one small aspect of why media is so shit nowadays. Unqualified leftists/non-whites/women getting into all kinds of positions in media through the HR feminazi regime.
I just rewatched the show and it was quite good, I agree S2 was the peak, everything in Ba Sing Sei.
I know its a show for children but I've realized on 2nd watch that it's got the biggest world-scale problems of any IP ever. The world is at turns massive (aang and team's journey to ba sing sei) and miniscule (ozai launching blimp fleet on the comet day and the comet going down 1-2 hours into his landing on the mainland, when he was supposed to make it to Ba Sing Sei)
Plot of bad guy was to burn whole continent down in day or something like that.
Look how long it takes to russian army to turn city of 30-40k people in ruble with modern day weaponry.
Modern day weaponry + modern day mobility + modern day communications makes for a very, very different kind of war. The fire nation's plan is closer to a blitzkrieg but with even less communications technology for the other side to coordinate themselves with.
So what. I'm talking about burning everything down in one day. How many square km2 is that?
It would have been better if they used firebending to slam that comet to earth Kingdom. Some massive ritual anime bullshit. That would make more sense then managing to burn down whole continent
I mean objectively speaking, once the Fire Nation lost the Sozin's Comet power-up, there's not really much they could do against an entire race of people who can conjure rock walls with their minds. Also even with their fetish-fuel hypnosis machine, in order for Ba Sing Se to enforce the "there is no war" thing, they would have to have a pretty huge amount of territory, at minimum enough to feed themselves without outside help. That implies a massive amount of farmland.
yeah the fire nation was industrialized but how tf did they win the war post-sozin comet round 1 when the earth kingdom seemingly has 10x their population
Firebending is like airbending, you can do it in any environment which gives you a huge leg up over the waterbenders and earthbenders. Also they have lightning, which is just hilariously OP, especially with Korra establishing that it's so easy to learn that random firebender laborers use it to power Republic City's power generators.
>you can do it in any environment which gives you a huge leg up over the waterbenders and earthbenders
In what situation would you ever be able to fight earth benders without any earth around? Or water benders without any water around? As long as either nation stays on their home territory neither would ever happen.
>Or water benders without any water around?
The series is a bit inconsistent about this, but it seems like it takes a strong waterbender to bend ice, rain, water in the air, etc., most waterbenders need an actual water source to work with. Firebenders, even the shitty ones, can just conjure fire out of thin air.
It's like if you have 1000 people on each side with guns, but 50% of the people on one side need certain environmental conditions to use their guns, while 100% of the people on the other side can use their guns whenever.
In Korra there was someone who could bloodbend, and there was a flashback where adult Aang had to deal with a bloodbender mob guy, almost died if not for the avatar state
It's a difficult technique and can only be performed during a full moon when water benders are at their strongest. Korra had three people who learned to do it outside of a full moon.
>In what situation would you ever be able to fight earth benders without any earth around?
At sea, in the air with zeppelins, in a metal prison, in a swamp (well you still get mud but there's less solid rock to work with) >Or water benders without any water around?
In the desert, up a mountain, in a volcano prison
The point being that there are several tactical situations that they can maneuver towards that give firebenders the advantage, and they work to capitalize on them.
Comparatively, where would you ever have little trouble fighting air benders or fire benders? While it's raining for fire I guess?
>Comparatively, where would you ever have little trouble fighting air benders or fire benders? While it's raining for fire I guess?
Airbenders in particular are so ludicrously overpowered that it's kind of a wonder that they ever lost in the first place.
>At sea, in the air with zeppelins, in a metal prison, in a swamp
Why would any earth bender army ever be in those locations let alone fighting to control them?
>In the desert, up a mountain, in a volcano prison
And why would any water bending army ever be in any of those locations, let alone fighting to control them?
See you ignored half my question. I didn't just ask you to name locations where there weren't supplies of dirt or water around, I asked for situations where the fire Nation army would ever get to fight Earth or water armies in locations where they wouldn't have access to their element. The fire Nation can putz around in as many deserts as they want, they're never going to be fighting the water tribe armies there. Why would the water ever be in a desert? They live at the poles, where there's always plenty of ice and water around.
1. Despite the memes about Aang killing a shitload of people in the series (which he did) it was never with the direct intent of killing them
2. Aang is a kid, and a pretty innocent one at that, he had never seen a single fight in his life until S1 of the tv show. The idea of airbending someone's oxygen away probably wouldn't have occurred to him.
3. A better question is, why didn't Tenzin just do this to Amon in S1 of Korra?
>3. A better question is, why didn't Tenzin just do this to Amon in S1 of Korra?
Airbenders are usually pacifists who only put up enough of a fight to get away. Plus Amon probably would have just pulled out bloodbending and fricked Tenzin up if his life was actually in danger
I really liked the extension of Ty Lee's Chi blocking in Korra. Bending isn't just some innate ability, it requires specific forms and motions to be performed. By studying these forms and finding gaps in between, a trained fighter can close the distance and neutralize the bender. Very kino stuff.
Then you have Zaheer's groupie who could waterbend with no arms. I get they were trying to do a Toph-style differently-abled character but it didn't qutrjaite work.
Yeah, but it requires (multiple counts of) physical contact... If you just brought a knife with you you could have killed the bender instead of just stunning him.
l
I think the number of people Aang killed in Avatar is usually overstated. He definitely killed Zhao, but with the level of cartoon-invulnerability the average person in Avatar has, I think most of them survived. I don't think most of the Fire-nation soldiers at the end of season one died.
the impression I get from them apparently having Monk Gyatso not kill anyone during the attack on the southern air temple makes me think they're gonna have Aang be morally consistent and struggle with the ethics of even killing Zhao.
Yet another unnecessary live action adaptation.
The animation exists and is perfect.
>VFX scenery looks bad
Gee I wonder why. Mandalorian was a mistake.
It’s amazing how they made a worse version of a green screen
What's wrong with it?
>biggest in the world
>still the size of a closet
It is absolutely fricking insane that anyone thought this would be a good idea. It sounds interesting on paper, but you immediately run into issues shooting scenes that don't feel claustrophobic. And when your whole show is shot like that, it looks like shit.
It works as great when it's enclosed space. But using it as stage for whole time is stupid. Especially when you have vast open space or need lot of movement.
Main issue is how to light it. You can't shine light against it. That's why mandalorian s1 was so dark. That's why batman was so dark. And that's why colours of this show look off.
You can see In mandalorian in few episodes where its out in open and it looks all washed up and dim. Even when it's mid day.
*throws fake snow at you behind a fan to match the mp4 mountains*
That's what you get when you use technology just because it's innovative rather than because its strengths are required to complete a shot. Shows that don't know how to capitalize on the volume (and know how to restrain themselves) is the new age of CGI creatures looking worse than Davy Jones.
Prepare for them doing the same with AI.
The name of the game is "cheap" and "good enough"
It's important for lighting
wow, it looks like junk!
so it's total junk and you mean to say they got the actor's face lighting completely wrong for all the scenes and the LED box didn't help at all???!!!????
Greig Fraser was the cinematographer for Mando and he also the partial creator of the The Volume.
That's why Mando looks good.
The Batman also was filmed in the Volume and it looked great because Grieg Fraser was the cinematographer too.
Maybe a show that relies on animated action as its core appeal doesn't translate well to live action? Just a thought.
People love the shit out of one piece.
morons love the shit out of One Piece.*
>Maybe a show that relies on animated action as its core appeal doesn't translate well to live action? Just a thought.
They contacted actual martial artists, every move in the show can be performed by a human
Why do they keep trying to adapt animation to live action name ONE good show where they pulled it off.
It's obvious why. Cartoons are considered for children in America and something adults shouldn't ever watch.
Avatar is a children's cartoon though.
There aren't any writers left in Hollywood capable of writing about anything other than their period's. Adapting cartoons is literally all that's left.
Evil can't create, only corrupt.
Define evil.
>Zuko, my son, how do we defeat the Earth Kingdom?
>The people of the Earth Kingdom are resilient, they won't give up unless they completely lose hope-
>So you're saying I should kill every person in the Earth Kingdom?
>What? No, I-
>Zuko, you're a genius. Prep the zeppelins, we've got a continent to torch!
He's borderline moronic but man is he entertaining as a villain. Must be all that inbreeding.
He is one of the worst villains ever. Zero development.
Yes, season 3 sucked.
I'm not convinced a villain needs development. He's practically not even a main character, he works great for what he is and what he needs to do. If he took center stage it would be awful, so if that's what you mean yeah, I agree.
>it's supposed to be bad!
Imagine having Zuko as one of the main characters are not exploring his dynamic with his father.
>the villain isn’t a main character
This is what happens to your brain when you watch gay cartoons for children. Any understanding of drama in a mature sense is completely gone.
He's a cartoonishly evil goofball. I know a lot of older people want to project back and pretend that Avatar was some ultra-deep, well-written show, but this was a Nickelodeon cartoon that aired when we were 10 years old. Sometimes a villain who's just an evil jackass for shits and giggles is exactly what a story needs.
He didn't even confront Aang before the final battle. He is boring. Not even anime-tier villain.
they did a good job using him sparingly and keeping him mysterious the first few seasons, but by s3 he needed more. definitely needed something to make his final confrontation with Aang carry any weight.
Sozin's Comet has a lot of moronation in it, people forget that the original cartoon makes some baffling decisions of its own. It peaks in the Book 2 finale, Crossroads Of Destiny is elite.
>some baffling decisions
>some
The show is a dumpster fire if you hold a lens to it. From a story and character motivations perspective. But there's plenty to like and it is *meant* for 12 year olds so, ya know.
>The show is a dumpster fire if you hold a lens to it. From a story and character motivations perspective.
Like?
I watched it when it came out, mostly for the animations and combat sequences.
The characters were fun for a kid's show, but I never understood the deification it received ever since.
it had just enough orientialism and superficial fortune-cookie wisdom that is appealing to all ages
>superficial fortune-cookie wisdom that is appealing to all ages
Zuko, you have to look within yourself to save yourself from your other self, only then will your true self reveal itself
One day people will admit Korra was an improvement.
>fat breasts
>big booty
>incredible Cinemaphile body
>dumb as a rock
Korra should have been a prostitute, not the Avatar.
Over the live action maybe.
Korra is an adult so you can browse Cinemaphile threads about her without worrying about ending up on some kind of federal watch list because of some goober's fanart. That is literally the only improvement she represents over the original show.
>without worrying about ending up on some kind of federal watch list
The only good thing about Korra is the porn, the show is awful.
No 12 year old would opt to watch this over the cartoon so it even fails at that.
>people forget that the original cartoon makes some baffling decisions of its own
Like the fact that the Fire Nation is somehow able to invade the Water Tribe...by boat.
I mean, the entire reason the Fire Nation can do half the shit they do, and why they're such a serious threat, is that the element they control essentially allowed them to speedrun the Industrial Revolution while the whole rest of the world was still essentially medieval in tech level. It makes sense that their navy, composed of steel warships, would pose a problem even for people who control water.
I guess in theory the waterbenders of the Northern Water Tribe could have all banded together and tried to sink the ships at sea.
>It makes sense that their navy, composed of steel warships, would pose a problem even for people who control water.
A single iceberg sunk the Titanic just by scraping up against it, and even Industrial Revolution-era steamships could find themselves at the mercy of currents.
The titanic could've survived if it had firebenders to get rid of the iceberg.
>also frick these trees and grass zuko
Bad people who do bad things because they are bad
Your shirt is RED
Judaism
One Piece. But they brought the creator to write/direct it.
No they didn't. At most he gave feedback, but you're utterly delusional if you think he wrote or fricking directed it.
One Piece.
Are you seriously pretending Netflix One Piece wasn't shit
It was aight
If you think it was shit, then you have an opinion to match. Cowboy Bebop, now THAT was a jet of streaming shit, Jesus fricking Christ. I’m going to give Avatar a shot despite what random people said, you should always form your own opinions. Titles like critic, or reviewer, are just bullshit words to make you think the person matters. Watch for yourself, think for yourself, or don’t bother talking at all.
>If you think it was shit, then you have an opinion to match.
It is shit and your opinion is shit.
>think for yourself
I DO think for myself, and based on my experience, I KNOW this will be shit.
Here's my opnion of your opinion.
keep coping
Speed Racer.
One Piece. If S2 is good too it'll be a major miracle.
Robin's casting is going to make or break it.
As if casting mattered to them
Americans have a weird obsession with having to turn everything into live action in order to "legitimize" it.
It's genuinely kind of pathetic.
Japs pump out their fair share of live action garbage based on properties that clearly aren't made for it, but you'll rarely see someone forego watching a decent anime in order to watch its live action version over there.
Netflix's Death Note is the best version of the story
Rurouni Kenshin ngl
The way to go about it is to make an semi-original story in the setting. It was for a manga not an animation, but Edge of Tomorrow showed exactly how to do this right.
It can work if it is made just for fun, like a one time thing, but these guys want to eat the whole cake
Reminder the purpose of streamingshit is not to make something good, it's just to make something. Just take a name people recognise and pump some garbage out. Doesn't matter how bad it is, doesn't matter that nobody will ever watch it again a week after it airs. It keeps normalgays subbed for another month.
One Piece
TV series: One Piece and Alice Borderland
Movies: Rurouni Kenshin, Alita,and Old boy
leave immediately
AT LEAST THEY CAST ACTORS OF THE CORRECT RACIAL DNA THATS ALL THAT MATTERS
THE COSTUMES LOOKED SO FRICKING FAKE LIKE SUPER CLEAN AND FOLDED AND NEVER LIVED IN. LIKE A cheap fricking high school play.
im never gonna be able to unseee it if i watch this trash
also the woman behind this is the one who did fricking "warrior Nun" a shit show that i watched because Alpa Babtisa is a fricking hot and she leaked her nudes accidentally in insta when she ment to send them to Chris evans
>THE COSTUMES LOOKED SO FRICKING FAKE LIKE SUPER CLEAN AND FOLDED AND NEVER LIVED IN. LIKE A cheap fricking high school play.
This is nearly universal nowdays, makes modern media mostly unwatchable as far as I'm concerned. No idea what happened to good costume design.
Yeah I've been harping on this for a while. I think it comes down to people being hired for positions where they aren't that passionate. Looking at behind the scenes stuff from the 70s, 80s, 90s... you really got the impression everyone as a collective cared about everything. There's this prominent cope that "only the best media" gets remembered but the crazy thing is even "mediocre" movies of decades past absolutely wipe the floor with today's trash media.
I'd say it's even more recent than that. Compare the costumes from LOTR/Napoleon tv show (early 2000s), Rome (late 2000s) and Game of Thrones (early 2010s) to Netflix Witcher/Napoleon movie (late 2010s/early 2020s). The difference in costume quality, which theoretically shouldn't have been that big of an expense in the grand scheme of things, is just staggering. And going beyond fantasy/period pieces and looking at sci-fi or superhero movies, compare Iron Man (2008) to Madame Web (2024).
Something happened in the last 10 years and I have no idea what it is.
>Something happened in the last 10 years and I have no idea what it is.
Diversity hires
Can't something like that be easily fixed by putting the clothes through the laundry?
My theory is that costume departments have been infiltrated by instagram cosplay roasties.
Cosplays have to look as cartoony and artificial as possible to be close to the character as possible. And this mindset translates into film costumes, making everything look unreal.
Just one small aspect of why media is so shit nowadays. Unqualified leftists/non-whites/women getting into all kinds of positions in media through the HR feminazi regime.
when they say they want the show to look 'cartoony' is usually code to cover their costume designers laziness
Meds + Back to your containment board.
He's right, tourist.
>THE COSTUMES LOOKED SO FRICKING FAKE LIKE SUPER CLEAN AND FOLDED AND NEVER LIVED IN.
Everybody's doing this now. Wheel of Time was really fricking obnoxious about this
I was about to mention WoT too, I'm still so fricking mad.
Yeah, that's the one good thing about this show. Grace Fullbreasts*cough*Caroline Curvy*coughcough*Caroline Currey hit the red carpet for this.
I just rewatched the show and it was quite good, I agree S2 was the peak, everything in Ba Sing Sei.
I know its a show for children but I've realized on 2nd watch that it's got the biggest world-scale problems of any IP ever. The world is at turns massive (aang and team's journey to ba sing sei) and miniscule (ozai launching blimp fleet on the comet day and the comet going down 1-2 hours into his landing on the mainland, when he was supposed to make it to Ba Sing Sei)
Some nerd once did the math and calculated that their entire planet is actually the size of Ohio based on how fast Appa can fly from point to point.
>ohio
Plot of bad guy was to burn whole continent down in day or something like that.
Look how long it takes to russian army to turn city of 30-40k people in ruble with modern day weaponry.
Modern day weaponry + modern day mobility + modern day communications makes for a very, very different kind of war. The fire nation's plan is closer to a blitzkrieg but with even less communications technology for the other side to coordinate themselves with.
So what. I'm talking about burning everything down in one day. How many square km2 is that?
It would have been better if they used firebending to slam that comet to earth Kingdom. Some massive ritual anime bullshit. That would make more sense then managing to burn down whole continent
Who is in charge of fight choreography?
>live action adaptation of a kids show is bad
HOLY FRICKING SHIT WHAT!?!? HOW??!!?
>look up map of the avatar world
>ba sing sei outer wall circumference is almost as big as the entire fire nation
?
It's one of those medieval maps with no scale, don't worry about it
>Earth Kingdom has the most earth
How could this happen?
I mean objectively speaking, once the Fire Nation lost the Sozin's Comet power-up, there's not really much they could do against an entire race of people who can conjure rock walls with their minds. Also even with their fetish-fuel hypnosis machine, in order for Ba Sing Se to enforce the "there is no war" thing, they would have to have a pretty huge amount of territory, at minimum enough to feed themselves without outside help. That implies a massive amount of farmland.
but what was firelord ozai's tax policy?
>Nigflix
>gayvatar
How do you expect something different?
yeah the fire nation was industrialized but how tf did they win the war post-sozin comet round 1 when the earth kingdom seemingly has 10x their population
How did Britain conquer India?
Superior Organization.
>sozin powered fire bending
>other elements still handle it pretty easily
is fire bending the weakest element?
In combat, yes. Its real advantage is in kickstarting an industrial revolution as it happened in the show.
Firebending is like airbending, you can do it in any environment which gives you a huge leg up over the waterbenders and earthbenders. Also they have lightning, which is just hilariously OP, especially with Korra establishing that it's so easy to learn that random firebender laborers use it to power Republic City's power generators.
Yeah except Korra is shit so who cares what it says.
>you can do it in any environment which gives you a huge leg up over the waterbenders and earthbenders
In what situation would you ever be able to fight earth benders without any earth around? Or water benders without any water around? As long as either nation stays on their home territory neither would ever happen.
>Or water benders without any water around?
The series is a bit inconsistent about this, but it seems like it takes a strong waterbender to bend ice, rain, water in the air, etc., most waterbenders need an actual water source to work with. Firebenders, even the shitty ones, can just conjure fire out of thin air.
It's like if you have 1000 people on each side with guns, but 50% of the people on one side need certain environmental conditions to use their guns, while 100% of the people on the other side can use their guns whenever.
I haven't watched the show, but can waterbenders, bend the water inside of people?
In Korra there was someone who could bloodbend, and there was a flashback where adult Aang had to deal with a bloodbender mob guy, almost died if not for the avatar state
It's a difficult technique and can only be performed during a full moon when water benders are at their strongest. Korra had three people who learned to do it outside of a full moon.
>In what situation would you ever be able to fight earth benders without any earth around?
At sea, in the air with zeppelins, in a metal prison, in a swamp (well you still get mud but there's less solid rock to work with)
>Or water benders without any water around?
In the desert, up a mountain, in a volcano prison
The point being that there are several tactical situations that they can maneuver towards that give firebenders the advantage, and they work to capitalize on them.
Comparatively, where would you ever have little trouble fighting air benders or fire benders? While it's raining for fire I guess?
>Comparatively, where would you ever have little trouble fighting air benders or fire benders? While it's raining for fire I guess?
Airbenders in particular are so ludicrously overpowered that it's kind of a wonder that they ever lost in the first place.
show implies there were only ever a couple hundred
If airbenders had the mentality of firebenders there isn't much anyone could do. The story only works because of their pacifism and isolationism.
>At sea, in the air with zeppelins, in a metal prison, in a swamp
Why would any earth bender army ever be in those locations let alone fighting to control them?
>In the desert, up a mountain, in a volcano prison
And why would any water bending army ever be in any of those locations, let alone fighting to control them?
See you ignored half my question. I didn't just ask you to name locations where there weren't supplies of dirt or water around, I asked for situations where the fire Nation army would ever get to fight Earth or water armies in locations where they wouldn't have access to their element. The fire Nation can putz around in as many deserts as they want, they're never going to be fighting the water tribe armies there. Why would the water ever be in a desert? They live at the poles, where there's always plenty of ice and water around.
You didn't mention armies at all, moron.
the moment you saw this guy running around during sozin's comet, you knew firebending is underpowered as frick
In a fantasy setting where everyone has magic powers and inherent racial abilities, there is no man more dangerous than "normal dude with a sword"
can waterbenders cumbend the semen from someone's balls?
maybe they could cure your cumbrain too
Lots of r34 of avatar has cumbending.
how come aang didn't just airbend a oxygen-less vacuum around his opponents' heads?
1. Despite the memes about Aang killing a shitload of people in the series (which he did) it was never with the direct intent of killing them
2. Aang is a kid, and a pretty innocent one at that, he had never seen a single fight in his life until S1 of the tv show. The idea of airbending someone's oxygen away probably wouldn't have occurred to him.
3. A better question is, why didn't Tenzin just do this to Amon in S1 of Korra?
why did aang say he didn't kill anyone when he probably left 1000s of fire nation in the ocean with no ships around?
>I didn't kill them, the water did. All I did was put them into the water, it's not my fault they don't have gills.
Pacifists are all conniving shits.
>3. A better question is, why didn't Tenzin just do this to Amon in S1 of Korra?
Airbenders are usually pacifists who only put up enough of a fight to get away. Plus Amon probably would have just pulled out bloodbending and fricked Tenzin up if his life was actually in danger
He was raised a pacifist monk, and did not want to kill anybody
It's hard enough to adapt anime. These homies tried to adapt an American cartoon that was pretending to be anime
I really liked the extension of Ty Lee's Chi blocking in Korra. Bending isn't just some innate ability, it requires specific forms and motions to be performed. By studying these forms and finding gaps in between, a trained fighter can close the distance and neutralize the bender. Very kino stuff.
Unfortunately they didn't care all that much about keeping the mentality that bending isn't an innate ability in Korra.
Yeah it turned shit fast but there was so much potential at the start.
Bending IS an innate ability but it's not power you can cast however you want, you have to work with the rules of bending.
Then you have Zaheer's groupie who could waterbend with no arms. I get they were trying to do a Toph-style differently-abled character but it didn't qutrjaite work.
I didn't know that. I stopped watching after the first season.
>differently-abled
Are you shitposting right now?
Yeah, but it requires (multiple counts of) physical contact... If you just brought a knife with you you could have killed the bender instead of just stunning him.
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I think the number of people Aang killed in Avatar is usually overstated. He definitely killed Zhao, but with the level of cartoon-invulnerability the average person in Avatar has, I think most of them survived. I don't think most of the Fire-nation soldiers at the end of season one died.
the impression I get from them apparently having Monk Gyatso not kill anyone during the attack on the southern air temple makes me think they're gonna have Aang be morally consistent and struggle with the ethics of even killing Zhao.
Didn't he asphyxiate a bunch of them (and himself) when he removed all the air from the inner sanctum?
Why are so many adults watching a kids show?
Kids are too busy watching adult shows.
>show very clearly does not translate well into live action
>already flopped once
>lets do it again!
are they just desperate to get attention from the asian market or something?
He won.
He’s never been wrong about Korra either.
haha
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Have never understood why this fake japanese shit is so popular.
It's a bad rip-off of Dragon Ball.
>twitter thread #3415823
Color me surprised