>Every day we come downstairs, unlock the door and turn the sign to open
>OPEN
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>Every day we come downstairs, unlock the door and turn the sign to open. >OPEN
This show needs to just die with grace.
I absolutely adored the movie, yet even I agree the show needs to bow out. Bob's Burgers hasn't quite entered zombie mode, so they can still keep their dignity.
I wish movies like these were allowed to be finales.
I always loved how Mr. Fischoeder legitimately liked The Belchers.
I'm not sure if "like" is the right word. More like, he likes to keep them around like sometimes you see some cool looking birds in your backyard and want to keep them around.
I'd call it "like". I can't really see Calvin interacting with his other tenants in the way that he does with The Belchers. The nightclub episode? Why didn't he get a chef from one of his other tenants who runs a restaurant? The First Thanksgiving episode? Why did he chose the Belchers to play his fake family?
If Calvin is really capable of liking anyone, he likes Bob. Then maybe his brother, a little.
I still buy that he'd burn the entire place down if it had too many problems, but he'd be kind enough to give them a two hour notice.
They’re slowly starting to rehash lessons the characters have already learned. It’s not a good sign.
Tbh I think it's impressive that after over a decade there's only a handful of Bob's Burgers episode that I absolutely hate and skip whenever I rewatch. Even when it's a boring episode it's still mildly entertaining. Please stop making episodes about Gene shitting though.
>Louise and Bob get a poop episode
>Gene gets a poop episode
>Linda gets a poop episode
>Tina gets a poop episode
we've come full circle
Unironically the Louise poop episode wasn't bad. But pinworms are gross and a Thanksgiving episode shouldn't revolve around shitting and puking.
Pinworms was great.
Nuh uh. I will say it was better than the Thanksgiving episode though.
This. I disagree with all the hatred thrown toward it in the previous thread. Yes, they overdid it with the song and the literal on-screen pinworms, but the episode as a whole was a sweet story about Linda actively trying to give her kids a brighter future. That's a side of her we don't get to see very often nowadays. She usually indulges the kids' questionable interests & behavior and rarely puts her foot down like she occasionally did in the past.
I don't know if it was worthy of being submitted for Emmy consideration that season, but it wasn't a bad episode.
I honestly couldn’t stop laughing at the pin worms episode and it was while I was actively running on a treadmill. Sure it was pretty lowbrow humor, but it was funny. Also it felt a little more like older episodes being a little less family friendly and clean.
ANUSES!
>Linda gets a poop episode
They got my letters!
The episode itself was fine from what I remember, but it came in the midst of this weird string of poop-related episode premises from Season 11 that pissed off a lot of anons in the Animation Domination threads. It also gave us a fricking adorable new outfit for Linda. Need more of that shit.
Very cute. I'll have to draw this look sometime.
>Please stop making episodes about Gene shitting though.
What’s worse is his unhealthy obsession with Linda. There’s being a momma’s boy and then there’s Gene. Although I don’t remember it being in the movie. Maybe somebody told them to knock it off for a movie.
There was a whole episode about Gene learning to let Linda do things without him so maybe that stuck with him
I'm madly in love with Linda, if I haven't made that clear enough.
The movie was fun and managed to do what the later TV series didn't and balance the characters screentime so none of them got annoying. It is a bit annoying how the movie is a bit of a rehash of that two parter though.
Also needed at least one more song, it kinda halfassed the musical aspect.
apparently they had like a lot of songs either sketched or finished, but didn't want this to be literally like a musical so they cut it down
what's weird to me is it FELT like it had five, but it had four? I think maybe there was a reprise. Reprises shouldn't take the slots of original songs if you already had some readyish.
yea, I still enjoy what it's become but more often than not the newer seasons have just become background noise for me doing something else, and missing an episode isn't the end of the world at all. Would've liked the plot of the movie to be a little bigger ala the Simpsons movie so it could feel like a real finale but oh well.
I really think all these adult cartoons that have aged way past their prime need to adopt South Park's newer Paramount deal. Long form specials and/or shorter seasons would make the majority of these shows (Simpsons, Bob's, Family Guy, American Dad) compact enough that we're getting a lot of the fat trimmed, and optimistically, get better crafted stories since they'd be working within constrains shorter than airing new stuff 20 weeks of the year
I like your suggestion. Family Guy may not give a shit, but it's at least so off-the-wall nowadays that it's still entertaining. But for long-running series that are boring more often than not like Simpsons, Bob's Burgers, and American Dad!, a new format like South Park's been experimenting with could do wonders for each series.
Limitation breeds innovation, and I agree that this could challenge the writers to really be more ambitious since they'd only have half as much content to produce each season and would need to prioritize quality over quantity like all the prestige series do so their cracks don't show as easily. Smaller episode orders would also allow Bob's Burgers to look just a tad more vibrant than the shit we've come to expect from Bento Box's fast-paced production line. Bernard Derriman himself said that the fast-paced deadlines and 22-episode seasons make it impossible for the show to look even close to the level of quality the movie encompasses. The Bob's Burgers crew has the skill, just not the time. There's a reason why Rick and Morty is able to make every one of its episodes feel like a cinematic spectacle. Those long breaks between seasons are put to good use.
>a new format like South Park's been experimenting with could do wonders for each series.
oh god no please. serializing episodic stuff has ruined south park, star trek, and uh... well there was that one time Homestar did the DNA evidence running plot... that didn't work too well.
>Family Guy may not give a shit, but it's at least so off-the-wall nowadays that it's still entertaining
That's why I can still get some good laughs out of the new episodes. Even if the plots aren't that good, they do attempt at making jokes, and some can land.
While I love Bob's Burgers, it has become a bit of a chore to go through in the latest seasons. It doesn't help that it airs right after The Great North.
you didnt like the one where they go on Teddy's old ship and try to steal him a souvenir?
It's better now than ever.
It should've ended eight years ago.
Get back to work Bob.
They need to age up the kids and perhaps make Bob a little more successful to shake things up.
I hope they never make bob successful until the very last couple seasons and it isn't until the very last episode he realizes hes been running a popular successful family restaurant with loyal regulars and always recommended by the community at large.
All the Fox sitcoms do. Hopefully KOTH continuing to make money will convince them they don't need to keep the shows going to molk money from them
EACH AND EVERY DAY
I WANT TO SING
I WANT TO PLAY
I cannot overstate how much I love Gene's quick section in the opening number. The singing and music get me pumped, and everything about the visuals from the staging to the animation is just gorgeous. I also appreciate the Courtney cameo they were able to fit in. Gene's focus was limited in this movie, but it sure did treat him right. I actually felt for him when his fears crept in during his bedroom nightmare sequence.
I might watch it.
How much singing is there? how many times I mean.
I know it's at least once form that webm
I think only 4 or 5 times???
There’s only 3 real songs that I remember. Maybe 4 with the itty bitty diddy committee at the end? But I don’t remember it being a whole number. I think not fully committing to being a musical didn’t do the movie any favors.
>OPEN
>OPEN
Was finally able to watch this and enjoyed it, I'd definitely say it's better than The Simpsons Movie. Animation was great, plot wasn't spectacular but I think they went with what they knew their strengths would be, even though it was sort of a rehash of the Wonder Warf episodes (actually surprised they didn't make a joke about that when Grover was revealing his plans). I found that them treating it like it was a normal episode but with a bigger budget made the movie stronger. Songs were a weak part though, I guess they weren't crazy about committing to a full musical. The part with Bob's mom was really sweet and I liked that he said he sees a lot of her in Louise. Overall it was a comfy 7.5/10 for me.
It definitely felt like a 2 hour long episode rather than a movie, the Simpsons movie had more locations and a bigger stakes.
That being said, I prefer a 2 hour episode over a movie with bigger stakes because those bigger stakes don't mesh well with a sitcom full of silly characters.
Yeah I know sometimes The Simpsons movie gets referenced in the show but I think it'll be easier for them to acknowledge what happened in the Bob's movie in the show itself. That said the movie was definitely the Louise show but I think they did a good job tackling her rehashed conflict compared to Tina's and Gene's. Though I get there wasn't really a way they could all three of them to work. Also I just realized we didn't see Ginger.
>Also I just realized we didn't see Ginger.
She got to dance in the end credits
grover's song was horrid.
i though it was going to be a joke on how bad he is at singing that would last like, 10 seconds but nope, it kept going
lucky ducks was great
animation was good
i don't know what they were thinking with louise ears, no payoff with seeing her without them, nor they did play a part in stopping the master plan. imagine she needed to throw them or something after she failed to grab the fuse the first time, or do a dead man's drop to grab the fuse upside down
the buried alive part was good but they just had to put a gene fart joke in there
i'd say it's a 7
it was horrid but it was hilariously horrid. I kept laughing at his clumsy and ridiculous lines and his terrible singing.
>ears
it wasn't about the ears, it was about when you have a thing, kids notice it, and they give you shit for standing out.. and then you start to second- and third-guess yourself about why you do that in the first place, instead of just enjoying it
but that if you actually DO take the time to really look inward (and consult your family if it's a childhood thing because memory a shit), you might learn something new and great. It was never about the ears, it was about Louise being brave. She bravely nabbed the fuse, showing the ears really weren't a sign of neurosis but really just her being cool like her grandma.
i did find it weird they made the gag about her head not growing since preschool, when clearly it DID, and that's why the strings now sit at the sides of her head instead of down at the chin as they were in preschool, which is why she can't just tie it below her chin to do the pull-up thing.
I disliked it when I first heard it, but the more I listened to it, the more I appreciated it.
They had five minutes to reveal he was the killer, give his motivation, and reveal what the rest of the plot would revolve around, and they did it amazingly well.
I'm going to say all this, plus his arrogance (cowardice maybe?) on insisting he's still a good person despite murdering an innocent man, being willing to kill his family (one of whom didn't even need to die, he just couldn't be arsed to convince him not to go with his brother) and then a family of five purely so he could build an amusement park.
yeah i laughed at the idea that Felix's clinginess almost got him killed (because he's already a felon so he was never an intended target) but once you examine it slightly, if Grovery REALLY cared, he could have found a way. maybe told Felix to go to the wrong place.
>Grovery
i backspaced over that y several times, I don't know how it ended up in there anyway
>savory gravory sailor folk!
If you really think about it, you can see the slippery slope hos mind went down.
Cotton Candy Dan was an ex-con. Maybe he did some heinous shit that the other carnies forgave, but Grover, being a lawyer, couldn't. So he's an acceptable loss.
Then his butthole cousin posted bail and planned on fleeing the country. I don't claim to know how family trusts work, but I imagine Calvin not being convicted plus being alive, even in a country without an extradition treaty, would cause problems.
Whatever, Calvin is an butthole and only isn't a felon because he didn't get caught. He deserves to die.
Uh oh, Felix wants to tag along. Uh oh, no this random ass family stumbled onto your entire operation. It's too late to back out now, now you have to save yourself.
Calvin would have been slapped with felony charges just for fleeing the country even if that shitty sub worked and didn't drown him. Grover just wanted him dead for petty reasons at that point
Yeah, he just coukd have recorded the phone call or taken the texts to the feds.
Even if he wanted the pier gone... once he owns the family fortune, just sell off the rides and use that to fund the megapark.
Felix just wanted them dead and justified it to himself.
huh I hadnt thought of that
would be hard not to incriminate himself though since he was involved.
he's Dr. Fun.
alright sure. maybe.
His song was weird, I thought the joke was going to be that he was bad at singing but then he sounds normal after the first bit and it becomes unironically catchy.
Yeah there was a bit of SIMPSONS DID IT here but it was wonderful. Just a long episode of the show, very nicely done. Only made me laugh out loud about 5 times, could have been slightly tighter-paced, but no complaints really.
the simpsons actors spent most of the crummiest years of the show asking for more and more money. it actually got better after they took a pay cut.
I want to see Bouchard move on to his next great show. and he and Dauterive should stick together, they work well as a duo.
>even though it was sort of a rehash of the Wonder Warf episodes (actually surprised they didn't make a joke about that when Grover was revealing his plans)
They kind of do but subtly, Felix doesn't look that surprised or concerned unlike the Belchers and Calvin when Grover reveals he plans on burning the wharf down.
Best disney movie since the princess and the frog
>Bob's budget: 38m
>Simpsons: 75m
Do the cast really get paid that much? Animation wise Simpsons may have had more set pieces but I found Bob's a lot more fluid
weren't there a bunch of celebrities in the simpsons movie as well? tom hanks being the one that stands out the most
Bob had a lot too. Not one as big as hanks but Galifanakis, Paul Rudd, Beatriz, and a few others.
Bob's Burgers is a show that isn't AS good as it used to be, but I still enjoy it. Still get some laughs, I like the characters. That Valentines episode (the one with Joe Pera) I thought was hilarious.
Really enjoyed the movie, too. Just a nice, comfy movie.
I'm still mad, even more so since it's only been days since the announcement and everyone's just letting Adult Swim get away with it. Give Joe Pera his fourth season.
I'm with you, Anon.
I mean, if you cancel a show like Smiling Friends or Primal, that sucks, but there's lots of comedy and action shows. There's NO replacing Joe Pera.
Well said. Ballmastrz's cancellation hurt, but I know there'll be plenty of other cool experimental cartoons to come from Adult Swim. As for Joe Pera, there really is nothing like it on television. You won't get this perfect blend of mild comedy and sincere storytelling anywhere else. There has to be a way to get the show trending on HBO Max, and soon.
Is Ballmastrz CONFIRMED cancelled? I wouldn't doubt it, but man. Ballmastrz and Joe were my two favorite AS shows.
Well, it's "cancelled" in the same sense that Mao Mao's "cancelled." All signs point to the show being over, but Warner doesn't want to admit it. I wish I was careless enough to just forget about Ballmastrz like more casual fans probably have, but I'll always have those Leptons in the back of my mind. Their show deserved better.
Definitely agreed.
im still holding onto hope because the creator back in 2020 on two separate occasions said "something" Ballmastrz related is in the works. First occasion during the end of the adultswim summer showdown and the second being a discord message on the official adultswim discord.
The something was disappointment
its gonna happen, you just wait.
I'm really surprised, actually. Live action is way cheaper than animation and I thought Joe Para got good enough ratings to keep around. Do you know why it was cancelled? I can't find any reason why.
>Do you know why it was cancelled? I can't find any reason why.
Not him but it’s more than likely due to the WB/Discovery merger, the latter is forcing CN and AS to cut costs the easiest way to do that is through cancellations and tax write-offs.
so the stupid thing they're doing that is only done to make money.... is costing them money?
i liked this at first but little political things in it just got to me eventually. the strawman neighbor character pissed me off.
i wish i hadn't read that today. it was such a great day.
maybe someone else will pick it up. they'd be fools not to.
Bob's has followed the KotH pattern, not too surprising since it shares a co-creator.
absolutely amazing for like 6-7 seasons, then just good after that. toned down, edges filed off (especially after the first season) but still fine. It's running out of ideas inasmuch as the writers are clearly just "writing an episode" now and trying to get it done and in the can.
Hi anons, I started watching Bob's Burgers with my mom and we like it a lot. But i want to finish watching it before it becomes zombie. When does that happen? And after which season should we watch this movie?
It never gets "bad." Just starts playing it a little too safe and mundane after a while. Lots of anons claim it stops being good around Season 7, but I didn't notice any major valleys until around Season 11, and Season 12 felt like an improvement in some ways.
As for the movie, I say go ahead and watch it now. The crew designed it to be easily approachable for any newcomers to the franchise. The film canonically takes place after Season 12, but you won't be lost coming in blindly.
Agreeing with this. Personally I'd say the golden era is 2-6 but I don't think it ever gets consistently bad. Just a little safe and dull sometimes.
How much of that is Fox though? I can see the suits telling them to knock off the sex talk from Louise (which is kinda prevalent in the first couple of seasons).
What’re the circles pointing out with those kids
Oh theyre the home movies kids nvm
They’re Home Movies references
the jason one is a stretch. not his hair at all.
for someone who can basically just do one voice, kristen schaal is incredibly versatile. she can be a kid pretending to be mature pretending to be a little kid for sympathy
the klepto with a crush on tina was jason
Currently making my way through What We Do in the Shadows, and Kristen Schaal is fricking hilarious anytime she's on-screen.
'Yeah, that would have been ok. If, of course, somebody didn't make A BIG RED BUTTON TO OPEN THE GARAGE DOOR!"
And yes; I have the biggest crush on Nadja.
that looks hilarious, I need to watch it..
She's an amazing person. Must have had good parents.
Stop during the 2 part wonderwharf episode where bob, it has mr Fishoder and his brother as a central plot point with bob.
You may continue but be advised after this point the show starts going more towards safe episodes but they are at least kinda fun.
So Central Park. Yea or nay?
i only watched the songs on youtube, they are ok
First Class Hands is the best song
That's not Snakehead.
100%. It and the opener are the only truly good pieces. Really makes you think, eh.
>Own It
>Do It While We Can
>Weirdos Make Great Superheroes
>Can We Do Today Again?
>I'm in a Perfect Relationship
>Imperfectly Perfect
>Hellfish
>Die Trying
And that's just Season 1. Sounds to me like you need to do a series rewatch.
do you enjoy modern stage musicals
Sounds like I don't Appleshill.
Weirdoes for example is steaming shit. First Class and Central Park are the only good songs. There are some passable songs but nothing good. There's a lot of jungle beats and even more talk singing - none of it good.
A good song has to serve both as an enjoyable piece as well as a part of a broader narrative. It cannot just be phoned in as nonsensical shit because it 'tells a story'. Die trying is about as close as they get to decent outside of the two I listed. The only reason Die Trying is good AT ALL is because it is basically a medely and leit-motifs and references are a soft spot for anyone with taste.
Compare the songs of Centaur World to Central Park then tell me which one is better, homosexual.
I watched the first few episodes when I had a year of free Apple+ or whatever and I didn't hate it but I didn't like it enough to subscribe or whatever. I don't think it's a bad show though.
S1 was good but could have been improved
S2 was shite
they insisted in making helen rap when it's pretty clear it doesn't work, low key was the only good one in that regard.
the bullshit around molly VA, plus the replacement isn't even as good as the old VA.
S2 songs are worse, maybe 2-3 are redeemable while in S1 it was banger after banger with a couple of weak ones in between
the period episode
Where There’s A Will is good.
awful. unless you really like modern stage musicals. because it might have the art designs from Bob's but Loren Bouchard is not doing the music, and it fricking shows.
why they didn't just, I dunno, hire Brendon Small is beyond me.
They aren't as likable as the Belcher family. They seem much more sterile characters.
Watched half an episode and dropped it
i got a little further
the cute halfrican girl with a superhero persona with the power of frizzy hair called FISTIPUFFS made me smile. but then she kept singing these godawful go-nowhere songs about that. I'm so tired of newyork/hollywood frickasses trying to tell us lessons about being weird. you fricks never had to go through what it's like to be weird in the real world, it's nothing like that. a cute girl's hobbies will be accepted by everyone around her.
Why wasn't Morty in the movie? Not even in the final credits like the other characters that weren't in te movie?
he was there right at the start
But... he WAS in the movie. Even got in a quick line.
>between a broc and a chard place burger
>broccoli on a burger
i thought Bob was better than this
He's an artisan. He'll make it work.
to say nothing of combining broccoli AND chard
broccoli would be fine broiled. get those nice sweet caramelized flavors in there. but then chard with that? way too much brassica, bob. not worth it for the pun. you could have cooked it in bacon and made it 'between a broc and a lard place'...
he deserves better tools. I can't believe he makes these amazing burgers on a freaking flattop. No fire, no actual grille (as in a row of thin metal bars). just something CALLED a grill. Burgers without that smoky flame broiled taste are just not that special.
Flat tops are good for cooking burgers because they keep the flavor in.
bollocks. beef has no flavor (except that gross stuff that tastes like blood that you get from certain farms)
you create flavor via the maillard reactions. a flat grill / frying pan can get you a little, but it's mostly frying in its own fat. a proper fire grill can actually give you that wonderful smoky flavor. even a propane grill would be better (and bob DOES use propane for his flattop)
>(except that gross stuff that tastes like blood that you get from certain farms)
Fat IS flavor
sometimes. frequently a bad flavor, but for beef and pork it is pretty good so i'll give you that
but the fat is all throughout the beef, so it's not like it can 'run out' and needs to be kept in. the only concern with fat on a fire grill is it falls into the fire and makes a little smoke and soot. gotta keep those flare-ups down.
>he deserves better tools
he really does. i think first thing he should get is a salamander
but side question, did we ever saw all of Bob's suppliers?
we saw his meat supplier, he use to get his pickles from a local maker, he gets his napkins from the restaurant supply store which i also assume thats where he also get his plates, cutlery, and condiments
What he needs to get is a chalkboard to put outside.
ADVERTISE YOUR DAILY SPECIALITY BURGERS BOB IT'S YOUR ONLY HOOK.
do chalkboard signs even work in getting people to come to a restaurant?
Yeah.
They're fun.
but Bob isn't fun
He makes fun burgers tho. The hardest part of any store is getting people inside, the burger of the day could get people inside but the chalkboard advertising them is already inside.
Kinda. They are more likely to convince people already in the mood for your food to order something different than convince new people to come in
The fact that Bob doesn't have more repeat customers is ridiculous. Bob is so bad at business that it's break suspension of disbelief.
I imagine he does have repeat customers. They just don't come every day like Teddy
More like Teddy kills them all to keep bob and his family all to himself.
If it doesn’t, it’s at least free advertising.
If I am in an unfamiliar town and need a quick lunch, I will go to whatever nearby restaurant had the best-sounding special on their chalkboard. If I'm in my hometown, I already know which ones have the best specials because I have done this previously.
To be fair, it could be a sort of brassica medley slaw and not a full slathering of both. That'd be fine if it was in a vinaigrette and had a strong cheese, maybe.
And here I was, wondering what broccoli had to do with burgers
do you not understand how the burger of the day works
this would be so cute but why would anyone deliberately draw that way
how the frick do people draw nasal creases without vomiting?
either way they're both gonna be in her life
Guys I'm gonna be honest, Grover's villain song fricking sucked. Really the only stand out song in the film is Sunny Side Up Summer.
just watched the movie online since it was released in my country
really REALLY enjoyed it, so glad they went with a family / character focused story to make it feel like a big episode instead of a movie feel.
the only part that i didn't like was the mole hill scene, felt it really dragged at that point for no reason. overall really enjoyed it
This movie was beautiful.
THIS. I tried reaallly hard not to be impressed beacuse ODVIOUSLY it was gunna look good on a movie budget but damn. I couldn't help but be amazed at the smooth motion and detailed styles of familiar locations and characters. I blame the soft spot I have for 2D animation in general.
>thanksgiving episode
>louise is forced to cook with bob for some reason
>fricks up on purpose to get out of work
>bob is understanding and supportive the whole way
>suddenly there's a difficult task she actually wants to do
>bob says no and is upset that she's been fricking up on purpose
>somehow bob has to apologize at the end
i'm so mad
That's honestly one of the biggest thing I hate about the more recent seasons. EVERYONE shits on Bob for no good fricking reason. There's times where he could legit snap and kill them all and no jury in the world would convict him.
I can't hate that episode because Linda told off Sgt. Bosco's mom for doting on a son that couldn't even be arsed to call her on Thanksgiving.
The most I've ever related to Bosco
Acab
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oooh sorry, the mature older-person answer we were looking for is 'what the frick is acab'
yeah this show doesn't just resonate, it resonates shit you didn't even realize because most TV shows don't cover those concepts. they're too subtle
like the followup to Teddy's possibly-muderous love interest, the ways they showed she's a lousy person were nice and subtle. they didn't have to have her go full Sideshow Bob and actually try to kill him.
This. It's shit you never think about and then you see it and go "Holy shit, same."
The show has had three people willing to kill (Candy Cane guy, Helen, and Felix) and one willing to kill children (Fanny).
So how did they manage to make him seem like such a monster in comparison?
his selfishness and his ability to just sublimate his guilt. Like they show he still has guilt, but he's able to shut it off like a switch.
plus he was mistreated by his cousins, but was also in a great position to frick them over in a totally legal way. yet he still chose murder.
So do we think we will get another re in the opening sign? And maybe the road outside being fresh
i was wondering that myself
if they follow the simpsons pattern, only the very next episode will do that
unless they're planning to refresh the show slightly by actually letting everyone get a year older since we got to the end of the school year. probably not, but...
The last season finale was leading up to Tina's birthday and the whole season showed the sinkhole forming
shit really? i am used to missing details, but... they showed bits of sinkhole formation?
Yeah a couple people Tripped over cracks in the sidewalk last season. Cracks that were from the sinkhole forming
that's fricking awesome. I've been rewatching that season, I need to pay more attention
They had multiple people trip over the deforming sidewalk. Someone did a webm of it a while back.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bobsburgersfox/status/1526918056462671872
ohhhh you know what, I did notice that a little!! I was like wtf is this about? seemed odd.
The movie commentary confirms the pavement will look different moving forward. No mention of the theme song tho
>The movie commentary
where'd you find this?
>The Bob's Burgers Movie w/ both the commentary track and the film's regular audio track (subtitles for both included)
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I’m dumb and dunno where to put what you just shared
it's a torrent. you have to have a special thing for them... i've never gotten into torrents
unless that's a mega link. or an encrypted mega link.
It's an encrypted mega link actually.
oh! okay then.
my good man, google it, i promise it's very easy to figure out.
God, I wish I could go down on Linda’s hairy snatch and look up to see her adorable face
Love love LOVE the variety of zoomed-in burger ingredients they used for the credit backdrops. Always a treat whenever movies get creative with that stuff. That's why Sponge Out of Water's full credits roll disappointed me after the first SpongeBob movie's iconic ocean waves.
oh i didnt notice that at all.
i wish gayle had had a part in this movie but it was kinda serious, it wouldn't really have a place for her.
you got this without the commentary?
>Audio Track 2
i'm stupid. thanks
I'm a moron and don't know how to use this.
Is the file removed? I just want to watch the commentary.
it is probably from the anon who shares the mega 64 old videos. he is pretty BASEd
unironically thank you so much, but I am stuck on the decryption key part, "JUTVZGVE4wVHM1QzlWbEwxTTBFVQ==" doesn't work.
works on my machine.
open up a normal MEGA url, splice this in where it looks appropriate.
I can't make this shit work, fml
sorry, do you not have any other working mega anywhere? can't ask someone on discord for one?
I just realized I could use the torrent on 1337, I don't know why I'm making this so hard on myself.
Good learning experience on how to recognize base64 tho, so cheers for that.
Who else hears it?
Any chance you could share the movie commentary? I love those
how do you think the show will end? what would be the most satisfying financial success?
>One day, without any sort of announcement, Bob just sorta realizes that... they've made it.
>After they paid off the loans on the equipment, they saved that payment each month.
>Paying the rent hasn't been an issue for three months.
>They've actually built back up their depleted emergency fund.
They'll never be rich, but they're not constantly struggling.
It's a good life.
honestly that kind of low-key ending might be just right
that's one of the best for sure. sticks in my head a lot. I'm a big fan of a LOT of the songs..
there are flaws but I disagree with the specific points you made. it looked like the animation in season 1. very smooth and weirdly wobbly and rubbery but on purpose. they're rubber worm people.
I also noticed some noses moving nicely as the heads turned, and shading taking noses and eyeballs into account.
>I also noticed some noses moving nicely as the heads turned, and shading taking noses and eyeballs into account.
That's sort of meant when I was talking about them getting the budget and not knowing how to use it though. Like it's detailed and there's certainly some nice technical bits at work but in a lot of ways it also comes off as distracting and it doesn't really enhance the movie in any way either. S1's animation was more intentional and a sign of them using whatever little they had available. This felt like them needing to keep a receipt of every extra shadow and frame. It's a bit hard to describe because it's not really an issue an animation so much animation direction I think.
well i'll say this, i didn't NEED any of what the movie gave us that the show typically didn't.
i get it, bouchard's music is divisive. i adore it but it's not for everyone. I assume you didn't like Home Movies either.
well the worst finale i can think of would be
>time jump to 10 years in the future
>bob wins the lottery and doesn't have to work
>move to kingshead and kids end up becoming brats due to the money and hanging around other stuck up kids
>louise still wears the bunny ears for some reason lol
>linda becomes a bored drunk house wife
>big bob dies and bob's mom returns after announcing she had to leave due to insert stupid reason here
Favorite Bob's Burger song?
Mine is https://youtu.be/dfmTfenEk6g
I can relate to this one. But also I'm getting real sick of them singing all the time. It was cute once or twice but now it feels forced.
The animation was NOT good. I said it in the other thread but its like they were given the huge budget but had no idea how to really use it. Characters either moved too fast or too rubbery. The shadows where overkill and they had no concept of depth perception. The whole movie looked like it was a giant composite shot.
I tried to watch the movie, but I noped out as soon as I realized it was a musical.
there's only three songs
and they're damn good.
was it really only three? are you counting Grover's awkward song?
i might be remembering wrong but i only recall sunnyside summer, the carnies song and then grover's. i guess we can count the one at the very end?
oh i forgot all about the carny song.. but it's not five right?
lemme look it up
'kipedia says four.
so wait, what's the rest of that stuff on the soundtrack album? instrumentals?
The bank loan subplot was pointless and the movie shouldn't have been longer than 80 minutes. It really did just feel like a longer TV episode which is FINE but also no reason to pad it.
the bank loan was kind of the whole point. if they were merely losing a little business, oh well, they've had dry spells before.
plus bob's delicious burgers have gotten them out of trouble many times, so many authorities have given them a little slack
Louise wanting to prove she wasn't a baby to her class is enough motivation. The bank stuff doesn't add to the movie and is resolved without any real effort and consequence in the last seconds of the movie.
as always, there's the adult plot and the kids' plots.
the kids wouldn't really suffer if Bob had to give up on his dream and get a normal job. They'd have more money and more free time. Only Bob like all laborers would turn into an abusive piece of shit or at least neglectful, but they don't know that.
it's resolved by them saving Fischoeder, that's exactly how it should work.. and it was funny he only gave them one month's rent free.
>the kids wouldn't really suffer if Bob had to give up on his dream and get a normal job.
The kids never admit it, but they enjoy goofing off in the restaurant after school.
>as always, there's the adult plot and the kids' plots.
And the adult plot, as usual, didn't actually add anything. The inciting incident was Louise being upset she was called a baby. The rest of the movie works fine without the threat of them losing the restaurant. You could even still have Bob, Linda and Teddy get caught up in their little grill adventure without it because even without the immediate danger they're still on the poor side and could easily get caught up in wanting to make fast money at the event.
>it's resolved by them saving Fischoeder, that's exactly how it should work.. and it was funny he only gave them one month's rent free.
It was an after thought and while it was kind of funny Calvin only gave them a meager reward for saving the whole pier it wasn't THAT funny.
The bank loan subplot drove everything else
Man that part about Bob's mom and how Louise reminds him so much of her that he's forgotten they never met has happened to me before. Really poignant moment and I hope it opens the door to a Bob's childhood flashback episode.
I really hope that happens to me someday. I miss my dad, I always wanted to watch him Gramp it up.
if I have a kid like him I'll do a much better job handling him emotionally than his dad did...
That's one of the things that bothered me. It's like the episode with his dad and the tree story. There was a real chance to delve into the character's pasts and emotions and it just kind of gets offhanded. It was by all accounts a nice moment but it really feels like it needed more focus to latch on. The show has potential to establish and emotional core but almost always seems to rather hurry through it and then have Gene make a fart joke or something trash.
IIRC Loren's mom died when he was young too so it might be a sensitive topic for him, which would explain why it's taken so long for the show to really talk about Bob's mom.
Maybe, but that's kind of the thing that really pushes good creators to reach deep down and make something impactful.
aw
I dunno these days nothing is satisfying, the only clever thing to do is the unexpected..
>I dunno these days nothing is satisfying, the only clever thing to do is the unexpected..
That's the problem though, isn't it? What they're doing ISN'T unexpected. The whole wacky random comedy shtick has ironically become dull and routine. It'd actually be way more of a swerve if they actually stuck to the heartfelt moments without needing to undercut it with forced humor. I get it's tough act to balance, you look at Futurama's last few seasons and they were trying so hard to recapture their sentimental moments that it felt forced and saccharine but this doesn't even try it feels like.
but we are getting the heartfelt moments. what we aren't getting is resolution of the plots. I thought that's what you meant
>not hearing the tree story
>not seeing bob and linda go to that restaurant whilst covered in sheep shit
>not actually seeing louise without the ears on
etc
>but we are getting the heartfelt moments
we're really not though. What we're getting is a moment that brings up what could be a tender scene, a bit of sappy music to manipulate our brain meats and then immediately undermine it a joke. I posted the Mother Simpson episode as an example because while that episode had a lot of jokes it didn't really undermine itself when it was time to be a teeny bit serious. Exploring Homer's relationship with his mother was touching and genuine. In fact even the jokes themselves were also at times sweet moments. Like Homer's lullaby being the Fig Newton song. It's silly because LOL HOMER FAT, but it's also kind of touching. It's a moment that shows they had a bond. It's goofy in the cartoony Simpsons way but it was also a happy moment that I think was honestly relatable in a profoundly human way. It's good they bring up the sentiment but they don't ever let it breath even if only for a moment.
Using that episode of the Simpsons again as an example there's a moment where when Mother Simpson explains her reason for leaving and we get a flash back of Homer saying he thought he dreamt her kiss goodbye, the family actually take a moment to shed a few tears, before pausing and getting back the gags and story.
Actually I'll even give Bob's credit for some of it's early episodes. Go rewatch Banjo. Where Louise is jealous Father Daughter time was coopted by gene. There's a part where they actually manage to make a fart joke a bit sentimental. So the show CAN do it. But these last few episodes are trying to play both sides and it is NOT working.
Ironic detachment is great tho anon.
Nothing means anything!
Grandma Simpsons was a b***h anyways and a bad mother
if you think jokes undermine tenderness, I don't want anything to do with your family
Thanks for cutting it at the right moment so I can pretend they actually showed Louise without her hat.
Can I request for Chloe doing the dead man drop and calling Louise a baby?
I want to nibble Louis's legs and Chloe's thighs.
nice
I love how most girls are sockless for summer.
Man I love the aggressive way she says baby, it's almost like she's calling her a...
Exactly.
I want to cum on Louise's hat and Chloe Barbash's s hair.
I want to cum on Jodi's glasses and Millie frock's retainer.
I want to cum on Abby's braids and Harley's headband?
Jodi’s freak out would be pretty funny. Not even going to lie.
1v1 who wins?
At first I wanted to say Louise but the way Chloe effortlessly pull herself up on the monkey bars got me wondering.
"So you have chosen death" tier.
Louise via pummelling and credit card ninja stard.
>Louise via pummeling
Oh but Louise can't throw a punch to save her life.
>credit card ninja star
Hair whip
Rudy.
ITS SUCH A DRAG
TO HAVE A BOSS
WHO PAYS YOU BAD
then bumps you OFF
Even though we're sketchy gals and fells doesn't mean fischoeder can go and kill us!
>WORKING HERE CAN REALLY BE A ROLLER COASTER
>ONE DAY, YOU'RE CLEANING VOMIT, NEXT, YOU'RE ON A MISSING POSTER
It's so cute when Louise referse herself as little.
>what gives teddy? We need our sleep, we're so little.
That was the most adorable Louise scene ever and it’s so brief
Context of this scene?
CRIME HOLE
Chloe Barbash called her a baby so she's climbing down into the scary sinkhole that opened up in front of their restaurant to prove she's brave.
Turns out someone buried a body down there.
The film was pretty nice. I haven't really watched the show before, but I've started to like it now, Tina is cute at least, despite the art style.
damn straight
I like how just loves cooking and has conversations with the food he makes.
>OH BOB, I LIKE WHAT I'M HEARIN! DIARRHEA'S FINE BUT NO SENSE FEARIN'-
EACH AND EVERY DAY I WANT TO SING I WANT TO PLAY THIS NAPKINY THING
I'D LIKE FOR YOU TO BE MY SUMMER BOY-FRIEND! YOU'LL SAY YES AND THEN TO SEAL IT SHAKE YOUR REAR END
Each and everyday, I just think I'm pretty great. Yep that's right, no big deal I'm not hiding what I fear about some things on my mind and if they're holding me behind keeping me feeling small though they actually make me tall.
I just finished the movie. I give it a 8/10. I wasn't too sure about the musical numbers though but thankfully they made it work (except Grover's, that one was weird). Gene and Tina felt kind of unimportant in the grand scheme of things too. Overall it felt like an extra long episode, which is nice, but I wouldn't pay money to see it in theaters. It's better streamed.
Even if this movie doesn't get many people to finally check out the show, I hope it at least gives them a greater appreciation for the art style that's gotten so much shit over the years. I've always loved the look of these characters, and this movie showed off all of its strengths.
though it is weird to me that the under chin lines are just 2d lines, they don't give them actual chin bulges.
it was his voice but it was hardly Jason
Any chance we can get a WebM of Mr. Branca dancing so elegantly with his broom?
best i can do
Cute.
these have to be the most likeably hateable characters ever. they crack me up in every fricking scene they're in, every line.
not that guy but handbrake now has vp9
is there a new version of the ffmpeg webm-maker that does VP9?
>making webms for Cinemaphile
It's not my job, but it's okay.
what do you use for the vp9 ones?
Cropped version.
I wrote a whole script for it, but the important part is
>ffmpeg -y -i "${1}" -c:v "${CODEC}" -b:v "${BITRATE}" -pass 1 -passlogfile /tmp/webmCinemaphile -f webm /dev/null && ffmpeg -y -i "${1}" -c:v "${CODEC}" -b:v "${BITRATE}" -pass 2 -passlogfile /tmp/webmCinemaphile -an "${DSTFILE}"
where $CODEC is "libvpx-vp9"
Jesus christ how horrifying
>that bassoon in "Lucky Ducks"
The opening too
It still bothers me that this movie only had like three songs, especially since two of them were fricking great.
I expected to see more of his mother. After all the hype I thought it'd be a mayor plot point.
funny thing about hype
ITS SUCH A DRAG
TO HAVE A BOSS
WHO PAYS YOU BAD (WHO PAYS US BAD!)
THEN BUMPS YOU OFF
I wonder if mr. fisch will learn from this experience. the fact that nobody even thought twice that he secretly murdered a carny, except three kids who know him pretty closely and had a strong motivation to find him innocent.. maybe he'll treat em better now.
Louise x Logan
Yeah but only as long you don't age them up.
she's mature for her age, he's immature for his. if not for how fricking adorable and perfect she is with Regular-sized Rudy, and how badly they've derailed Logan as a character, I'd still ship it like I used to.
Can you cringe ship? Because that's how I picture it with Louise and Logan with them both being incredibly self-conscious between what's happening between them.
just in general it's adorable seeing Louise dealing with enjoying shit that doesn't fit her self-imposed standards of identity. All that shit with her crush on Booboo was so fricking cute that it was easy to ignore how fricking crummy Boyz4Now are as characters and plot elements, and now irritating it is hearing characters talking about them. Sev'ral Timez they aint.
but I don't like some people's idea that it'd be fun for louise and logan to actually kinda continuously fight each other as part of their romantic play.. that's not fun for me, probably because my parents actually beat the shit out of each other a lot.
Yeah the dream version of Louigan would be them being a power couple...of buttholes who together make fun of you in a way that really cuts deep and personal.
okay well I like the cooperation part better, but why do they have to be mean? why can't Logan become more like Louise and they do fun harmless pranks together?
he gives gene a single word with the force of a marge simpson noise, in response to double entendres..
you have a good point though. I think that's Hank's problem too. I mean Hank at least sends Bobby to his room, but it's probably Cotton's fault he's against spanking. that and Bobby never does anything defiant enough, and is too old for that now.
the belcher kids regularly do pretty irresponsible and dangerous things though, and if you really care about your kids, you express your fear for their lives via punishment and guilt.
Fine, they can be mean against jerks and only to jerks.
delivering evil to evil is tempting, we all feel the thrill of it as kids, 'this person is an acceptable target, I get to be bad!' but it's still wrong. And these days, that kind of thinking leads to all the cancelry and the rampant double-standard of politics.
god I want a Louise daughter to pat on the head
and tell her that only the weak worry about their tough image
yeah that's true, this show is lighter and wackier. which is why it doesn't bug me -often-
That's only because King of the hill is more grounded in reality, remember, Felix tried to kill Bob and yet is still a recurring character and not in jail.
Anon, you can have multiple ships and not care about the current canon. No point in throwing away a good ship
yeah i just dont ship it like i used to is all.
is that show good? that sounds cute.
salamanders are okay, but you can do the same work a lot faster and cheaper with a heat gun. I'm sure Teddy has one Bob can have.
i wouldn't be surprised if he has a special separate ketchup guy..
very little sidewalk space. basically bob's in the worst possible place for his restaurant, that's kinda what the whole theme of the show has been. theyd be rich if they'd just move, but moving costs money.
It's a pretty good show. Didn't deserve to be cancelled.
I love thst even though the husband is a bit of a dweeb he and his thicc wife have apparently bed breaking sex, to the point that at one point she screams "I can't go to jail! I have kids! And a husband! And his dick, oh my God, he loves me so good!"
yes. thank you, that was one of my concerns
there's nothing wrong with weaker men, the world needs all kinds. but they still need to frick their wives with gusto. that's what makes them cool and fine. all the mcelroy brothers have wives and seem like good family men, that's what makes them tolerable.
I remember being weirded out that the two main females were voiced by guys when I first started watching the show. Now it's not even noticeable to me.
i laughed immediately, they're so perfect.
you dont get as much of that anymore but it's a comedy classic staple.
Dan Mintz is right up there with Melissa Joan Hart for likeable and realistic teenage girls.
i can't believe he was originally going to just be a guy, and be named after him like so many characters. the character works so well as a girl instead.
perish the thought. boobs are for tina.
>perish the thought. boobs are for tina
Yeah I guess you're right.
>unless...
Oh boy, is Gara gonna start drawing oppai e-girl Louise.
That loser should keep drawing Lily. What a coward.
>Show has been on for 11 years
>Tina and Jimmy Junior's relationship is exactly where it was in the very first episode
>The writers still expect us to care about them
At least they used them at all. The Simpsons Movie was originally gonna have Lisa x Milhouse but changed it because "test audiences weren't familiar with Milhouse's crush on her"
One of the biggest issues with that film is that they were over reliant on focus groups. Bob didn't feel like it had that problem at least not to that extent. Maybe you could say it's not as edgy as early seasons but that's probably Loren's decision.
>Exactly where it was
uh no, now they're going to be summer bf gf. didn't you watch the movie?
that said, the fact that they're so on-again off-again WAS a plot point in the movie. they're acknowledging it.
yeah the reviews all pointed out that newcomers won't be lost, and it's true, but at the same time there's TONS of continuity with the show and characters just show up that you're supposed to know who they are, or what they're about.
It's been acknowledged more than once in the show that the status of Tina and Jimmy's relationship is always flip-flopping
This was fine until it kept happening eight seasons later.
It made sense when Tina was a weirdo loner and J-Joo was the only boy who paid attention to her but at this point this is the exact opposite now. Tina has kissed several different boys and Jimmy Jr. has never been on a date.
>Jimmy Jr. has never been on a date.
He went on a date Becky Krespe on valentine's day
A date he was late to and breaked up halfway through.
it is funny how he was introduced as this fantastic distant love interest but really he was just across the street, and is not actually cool. he just hangs out with the poor kid nonstop. Tina just builds these things up in her head, like that time she thought she had super vision because she got new glasses. before that, anything more than a few feet away just didn't exist to her. same with my mom at her age.
well not her age, but her 'age' since tina is largely a small child in this show, and only rarely a teenager (mom was already dating college guys by tina's stated age)
i havent been on Cinemaphile much lately, is this just a regular thing now?
Depends on what you mean.
I’ve only seen a few episodes of the show but watched the movie because Hulu recommended it and there should’ve been more Bob he’s easily the best character
he really is. you might not know this but when the show started, he was a total breast of fresh air. after so many years of idiot cartoon dads and perfect flawless girls, it was nice to see another sensible dad, a successor to Hank Hill, and with a goofy idiot wife who is still not a Peggy because she's so damn likeable.
just about the ONLY thing that bugs me about their dynamic is the total lack of discipline. Bob seems to get upset at the kids not just for the trouble they cause but for his frustration with his inability to do anything about it.. whatsoever. like even scold them?
>scold them?
YOU MONSTER HOW FRICKING DARE YOU!!!
He scolds Gene all the time, the problem is Linda constantly undermines his tough stances and he doesn't want his kids to think of him as a hard ass like his father was to him.
i loved the episode where they 'fire' the kids so they can go have a normal childhood, and they fall in with some hippies delivering blueberries with weed hidden in the bottom... particularly because the hippies were fantastically memorable characters voiced by real-life couple ron-swanson-guy and aunt-gayle-lady.
~a fairy queen pooping underneath a tree~
>Look i'm not that evil
So Linda was the one who made Luise's hat, that's a nice sentiment really but one of the holiday episodes really made it a point that Linda can't knit for beans. I really hate to nit pick over continuity in a comedy show but that was kind of a major point of the episode.
i think it's a different technique. this is a tight knit, not the loose sweater knit where it looks all christmassy and diamond patterny. plus it's gotta be different material, the ears don't even droop. and there's a drawstring. are we even sure it's knitted? like yeah bob's mom's hat was knitted, but I think Louise's hat is sewn together. Linda can sew.. well, not a turkey, she can't sew a turkey together.
I don't know from sewing so I'll concede the point then.
yeah and not only are they different, but hand-sewing is super different from machine sewing.. my mom can do one and not the other to save her life.
i forgot about those costumes. this explains why she was so upset about being bad at knitting, she had other crafts down
It’s not a knit hat, and Linda is actually pretty crafty. She made the Burger Suit, the pickle suits that show up from time to time, the kids’ costumes.
>She made the Burger Suit
Did she? I feel like this is something I should remember.
I mean who else could it be?
I was robbed of more Linda fan service. Season 13 better make up for it.
the only holiday episode that is canon is the one where rsr kisses louise
it's okay anon, you can say christmas.
Such a good fricking song and so uplifting. Best one they've done in a while.
Yeah, it's genuinely a good song, would like to see it get an oscar nomination (I guess it's only competition is going to be Matilda).
So many of the Bobs Burgers, Central Park etc. songs are simple and forgettable, they feel like they've just come off of a production line,
central park shit feels improvised by spoiled theater kids with sixteen sexual categories on all of their profiles
bob's burgers music is just silly fun most of the time but occasionally has wonderful harmonies and overlayings. i hope bouchard and brendon small collab again someday, because their musical sensibilities mesh so wonderfully. Brendon has that rock background but also loves ridiculous ding dong doodily doodily doo parts.
mods why don't you ever just put a word filter on 'derpicdn' like you do with onions or t,bh
>Went to see this with my wife because we've been watching the show lately.
>The entire theater is empty except for an aspie early 20s kid with his clearly chronically disappointed father
>His father looks at me and my wife with a dull, resignated sadness
>His autistic, very gay looking kid is clearly nervous about bringing him to the showing as this is, to the kid, definitely a means of revealing some aspect of his essential nature to the father ... that being his feminine character
>The intro song starts playing
>I can literally FEEL the fathers cringe without even looking at him
>Watch the making of documentary for the movie
>Talked a bit about the show's development, how everything was there but one thing had to be changed
>Expect them to talk about the cannibal idea
>Turns out they were just talking about Dan being turned into Tina
Try all you want, Mr. Bouchard, your attempts at memoryholing that short will never succeed. I'll never forget (and with those designs and the concept I don't think I ever will)
it would've been a funnier idea but no way the show would've been as popular
plus it's a gag that doesnt have nearly as much 'legs'
it's funny for one sketch.
It's pretty interesting how Loren can turn a fricked up concept like that into a family friendly sitcom.
I'll take any zombie episodes of Bob's Burgers over this fricking chunky abortion. Legit probably one of the least funny or entertaining things I ever watched
Spoken like someone who has yet to watch farzar
I admire the hard work that goes into wasting both Jenny Slate and Nick Offerman.
This show is so boring that not even Honey's fat ass can keep me watching it.
Right? It's gotten to the point where I only ever watch The Great North on the odd chance I'm able to tune in to Animation Domination live. It's crazy how much of a nothingburger it is. I still recommend watching "The Great Punkin' Adventure." If anything, that episode was one that stuck with me.
right? they even made her a really nice character..
then the shit they put in her mouth, holy god damn.
why does this art style look so familiar..
>why does this art style look so familiar..
Created by Brad Neely, same guy behind China, IL.
ahhh okay that explains it
is it any good?
Define "good."
Why are there so many Gwenpool cosplayers in China IL?
For the five people in existence who managed to watch both these shows, how do they compare? Which one would you say is just slightly more watchable?
Harper House. Great North feels like a build up to something funny that's gonna happen but never does.
my brain turns off every time great north comes on. i have less than nothing to say about it
I don't like how she's eyeing that cat
She's not the type to hurt animals.
She let a tick attach itself to her head and feed until she was anemic and the tick was the size of a basketball
I honestly wish this show was worse. Because it's not even interesting enough to be bad. It's just so ... nothing. It's noise. Like a bad Simpsons or Family Guy will at least be memorable. The Great North has no characters. It has no plots. It has characters talking but not saying anything. There's no challenge or conflict. There's just... nothing.
from what little I've seen, it has conflicts and challenges based around left-wing politics
i mean, no other characters challenge them or try to stop them in any way, but we're still meant to think they're very brave and accomplishing a lot by fighting so hard on those issues.
So apparently this is the first 2d animated movie in like 10 years or some shit.
First 2D-animated film FROM DISNEY in 11 years. We've had Nerdland, Teen Titans Go! to the Movies, and Horse Show Movie.
even that is kinda nefarious to say because the movie was developed pre-fox merger
the songs really weren't that good in the film. the series had way more memorable ones that did the work the movie did in a quarter of the time. movie was overall a 4.5/10 disappointment overall for me.
Name me one song that's on the level of Lucky Ducks.
AND IT'S GONNA BE THE SUNNY-SIDE-UP
SUUUMMMMEEEER OF OUR LIVES
Were anons seriously mad about this two-parter all because Tina didn't bash Tammy's face in with a hammer? It was such a sweet story, and that "suggestion" would be so out of this show's realm.
Also I love the way everyone's arc wrapped up, as well as the end credits song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VO7RMA4dmJY
I just think there's just no way for her to go. Sometimes the writers say something about like how she and Tina could be better friends one day, like that babysitting episode or the one where tammy stays over at the Belchers, but even if that does actually happen it wouldn't matter because Tammy is just generally an unpleasant person to be around.
Like Tammy is a bigger butthole then characters who are supposed to be real turbo buttholes.
I might need to rewatch those episodes where Tina & Tammy came to an understanding; totally forgot how "Sit Me Baby One More Time" and "Sleeping with the Frenemy" resolved. But yeah, it would be tricky to make Tammy more likable without completely changing her character.
I still think the biggest issue is how the show is being forced to keep spinning its wheels and leave everyone mostly unchanged. It's been over a year, yet I'm still pissed that the writers introduced the concept of Tina outgrowing her peers only to go right back to that shit with the Susmita episode the following season. I wanna believe the movie put a stop to the whole will-they-won't-they shit her and Jimmy Jr. have going on, but when you can keep such a dynamic going for 10+ seasons even after the two shared a kiss in the SIXTH EPISODE, you can't help but lower your expectations for this sitcom growing any more ambitious. Tina's gonna go right back to simping for Jimmy Jr.'s indifferent ass this fall, and there's nothing we can do about it.
The status quo.
AYE CARUMBA!!
ironically they've developed gene and louise's friend groups considerably. the problem here i think is that tina's friend group was conceived relatively early and they have no reason to develop them at all. tammy doesn't need to get better because she's supposed to be a source of conflict. tina needs an eternal boy to be horny for and jimmy jr's right there.
Louise will be the unexpected breakout if there is any romantic development in this show... Why put effort into developing garbage Jimmy x Tina when you can just dump that effort into the infinitely adorable Louise x Rudy or Boo-Boo episodes?
Gene and Tina's romantic options are dogshit. Tina calls Zeke disgusting in the first Tammy episode, and that's her primary alternative.
Nobody cares about Tina kissing Jimmy or crushing on a boy. Louise's crush on Boo-Boo and kiss with Rudy on the other hand is server crashing.
Tina's movie plot is Jimmy Jr. because there's nothing else to her. Gene and Tina function only to enable Bob and Louise to shine.
Gene, Tina and Linda are superfluous and the show COULD function without them. Bob and Louise are the core. What is Linda right now but a second Teddy?
>the show COULD function without them
Not sure it could honestly. It wouldn't be anywhere near as good without them, even though they suck. Somehow all together there is this perfect harmony going on.
Tina's plot is realizing Zeke is a good man and would be a fine husband while J-Ju is a shit
>Louise x Rudy or Boo-Boo
Louise X Logan
Make it wholesome and cute and I'm in.
Wholesome, cute, teasing, flirty.
Tammy is such a lousy person but I like that once in a while we get to see she's not entirely bad. That episode where she decides to stop doing the making fun of people's fashion news segment.. or the photography episode where it turns out she actually has a good grade in the class despite being so lazy and just wanting to do phone selfies.
she's just so funny, i want her around. every word out of her mouth I lose my shit.
The problem with the episode wasn't Tammy the problem with the two parter is that it did not need to be a two parter at all. The Blade Runner shit was completely wasted. Did the creators even see the movie? And no having Zeke dress up like Gaff doesn't make it a parody. It feels like it had more references to that that shitty Irobot movie with Will Smith. There was no Roy Batty allegory, no tears in the rain moment. And between that an Bob's sub plot being wasted it just feels like it didn't need to be a thing. You could have used all that time to actually do a single episode. Instead we got lazy jokes where characters just explain what they're doing too much and it was boring. It was so fricking boring.
>Did the creators even see the movie?
The Joke was that the kids had only seen part of the movie so they didn't know how it ended
>The Joke was that the kids had only seen part of the movie so they didn't know how it ended
But does that make it funny?
Not in itself, but it's the reason why it wasn't a 1:1 copy of Bladerunner
It doesn't even feel like a 0:0 copy of Blade Runner. It feels like they just walked out, look at the audience and went "BLADE RUNNER!! " And then did nothing with the material.
Yea it really didn't hit to notes it should have
It's an angry fan fiction written by a 13 year old who watched half the movie early in the morning. of course it isn't accurate at all.
It's a shitty episode written by a hack writer. Tina isn't a real person. She's not really writing something beyond what the actual show writers write for her to write....wait. There wasn't any humor from the material was the problem. It didn't even feel like it was written by a teenager who didn't see the whole movie. It felt like it was a writer looking how to pad out a script. Even in the first half of Blade Runner there's a lot of iconic shit ripe for parody. They did the eye test scene. That was actually pretty okay. But that was basically it.
Except that didn't even really convey through the jokes they did tell. And even then that's barely enough of a joke for one joke, let a lone two episodes.
it did a lot right, but
this. it was streettttched. the parody did NOTHING. and yeah I also thought it was based on the will smith iRobot.
besides, it kludged together two good messages that don't go together into one lousy one. The way normie society crushes your spirit whenever you try to stand out... has nothing to do with popular but secretly insecure b***hes who slam your fashion for not being the popular hotness. which also has nothing to do with the average person ignoring it when you wear a new shirt because they're mostly awkward, unsure what to comment on, and generally "paying attention to looks" is something that only functions when targeted toward the male of the species. It was just a mess. I mean maybe that was the point? Tina was learning that there's a difference between oppressive Big Brother censorship and just a private citizen being a twat? but on the other hand, she was using the school news as her pulpit, with no opportunity for rebuttal, which means the government IS technically sponsoring this..
Honestly I feel like the wagstaff teachers really should have put the kibosh on the program in the first place. Yeah the broadcasting teacher would probably okay it but you'd think Frond would oppose it.
indeed. i'm happy with how little actual power Frond has, most other shows like this he would have total control over the student body and be ordering them around...
Julia Sweeney.
The thing with Frond is that despite having little power he does like to walk around like has authority. And I feel like this is the kind of thing a man with self esteem dolls would try to at least say something about. Maybe he gets talked down, maybe he gets overruled but the show has been wasting it's characters.
he definitely could have filled some of that time by piping up, sure. I love him as a character, mainly just because David Herman rocks. he's so fricking underrated, nobody pays him any attention or brings him up, but he improves every show he's in so tremendously.
Frond switches from bleeding heart busybody to indifferent butthole real quick.
exactly
kinda shows too how that exaggerated concern actually makes people MORE self-conscious about things unless they have self-confidence already and don't care what frond thinks.
Oh yeah definitely, I'm sure that's the kind of thing that makes people keep all of their shit to themselves. I think it's nice that he cares but he's still an extremely lousy counselor, his reaction to others' distress is completely unprofessional (for comedic purposes of course, but still)
I really liked the part at the end of the movie where he panicked because he was genuinely worried about Louise's mental state after her hat fell off, even if she didn't care herself. Shows that he does genuinely care even if he's an obnoxious tryhard most of the time.
I just wish the movie actually made better use of the extended cast.
Yeah a bunch of characters got shoved to the side, I expected some of them (like Frond) to have more speaking roles. At least we got the Fischoeders, they're the most entertaining secondary characters in my opinion. Don't think I would have enjoyed the movie as much without them there.
I'd have liked to see more Bosco.
Limiting the amount of secondary characters probably helps the movie also work as something stand alone, so someone that hasn't seen the show could enjoy as well. The Fischoeders are all introduced together at once and it's clear off the bat that they're a trio of filthy rich landlords that also own the wharf where the plot takes place.
you have a point, but I still think the sidecharacters carry shows like this. and it's been on for a decade, it should be confident to include its weird side guys..
which it did, certainly. they just kept them to certain circles. the carny guy, that was a good one to include..
Right. A lot of TV show movies make it so that you have to have watched several seasons worth to understand what's going on. Bob's Burgers keeps it simple by leaving secondary characters to mild references.
Most of the characters on the show can be explained without having seen seasons of lore though. I mean Micky showed up and they didn't even begin to talk about how they met.
I would have liked seeing the mailman show up, not just because he's one of my favorite characters, but like.. how's he getting inside.. is this making his life more awkward too.. yknow stuff like that.
Smash or pass?
it's weird how pale they look in that flashback
Looked fine to me
significantly less tan than they usually look
funny, pleasant, not full of gay shoved in your face every 3 seconds unless it's to make fun of them
i'm sorry to report there are black people in the harper house and they aren't even lynched, the show isn't for you
but.. black people aren't gay. are you some kind of racist?
>He didn't watch the uncut pilot with the 9 minute uninterrupted buckbreaking scene.
Even weirder is that Neely animated that part himself, no pupils and all.
Maybe that's a subtle nod to her spending alot of time in the hospital?
and bob with her? and i guess spending a lot of time in the restaurant too
You tend to be paler as a baby/toddler.
that's true.
It's a happy nostalgia flashback. They upped the saturation.
hmm no, they'd turn orange if their saturation was up
I think maybe Bob's supposed to get his complexion from his dad, and his mom was just whiter.. but then when they colored young Bob, the colorist thought they should match. and yeah maybe he tanned up further later. skin tones totally do that. It's already subtle as hell, which is something I like in adult animation. too often they're really bad at subtle shades
the first one
Big Bob was a total DILF back then.
I can see where Junior gets it from
I love that he still has that unfinished tattoo from the bronycon
Cast her.
Hard mode: it can't be Kristin Schaal.
H. Jon Benjamin
catchy as frick
I’M GONNA SHOW ’EM ALL WHAT I CAN DOOOO
why did this flop. Animation was so good!
People don't care about cartoons in 2022. Just 3D trash...
The only character they dont do enough with is Gene.. and I get why. he's tough to work with. and it's not like eugene mirman is pitching anything right now, he's in mourning
They do MORE than enough with that spastic. I want more Rudy attempting adventures and ending up in medical emergencies.
no, they do more than enough -of the same things over and over- with the fat little neuter. but more things would help.
True. Something to Gene outside of incest and shit music, and something outside of Tina besides sexual harassment and horses... Would be nice...
you are literally listing my favorite things about those characters.
Seems like something she'd do
It's certainly something I'd like to see her do.
It'll probably look something like this.
I have every reason in the world to think that Louise Belcher has a round bubble butt that jiggles around like jello.
Was this in the movie? I don't remember this.
It was from the short that's on YouTube. She even full on shooked her ass.
So we know for a fact now that if Louise did have a tiktok she would be making tiktokino.
Hnnng I'm gonna cum picturing what her naked ass looks like when she does that.
You just know that is a thin dress too, probably see-through in the right lifhting
Oh my god this thread is still up.
>"What's wrong, Bobby?"
I really wish we got more songs, Sunny Side Up Summer and Lucky Ducks were great. The villain's song was awful but I hear people say that was part of the joke, like to further emphasize how shit the guy is at being evil.
Hoorayyy this boring fricking show is coming back for Season 3 on Friday, September 9th: https://deadline.com/2022/07/central-park-kristen-bell-new-character-abby-season-3-premiere-date-first-look-images-1235071122/
Every time I look at this show I can't help but see those kids as black Louise and black Gene. Even the dad looks like black Grover if you squint hard enough.
I haven't seen the movie yet.
Anything to look foward regarding my favourite regular-sized boy, Rudy?
he had a few brief scenes as i recall, but nothing big.
he has a great gag in the preceding short though
yeah but would you go to a seaside town and get burgers though? that's his problem.
I would, but I also understand that most of my travel is for work so it being a cheap and fast option is ideal for a lunch and that makes me an outlier. The chalkboard still informs my decision. Seeing one for a ritzy place will also influence me at dinner.
oh totally. and considering a lot of their big weekends are special events...
He's in one scene, and everything he said is a joking response.
So what do you think? Jimmy Pesto lines got cut? Know a lot of characters didn't make the cut but this one stood out based on recent events.
I think they'll find someone who sounds enough like Pesto and bring the character back. Otherwise just write him out and have his ex wife run the restaurant
dude i dont wanna think about it. i have enough furious anger in my life without thinking about the insane doublestandards and disenfranchisement going on.
I couldn't give less of a shit about Jimmy Pesto.
Bob should get a real job. He's obviously bad at burger flipping
Shut your lying prostitute mouth.
He's bad at SELLING his burger-flipping. The burger-flipping itself is fantastic.
Bob ahould work for a real salesman then like jimmy pesto or his landlord.
Honestly, I don't think Mr. Fischoeder is that good of a businessman and just relies on his vast money and inheritance to buy his way out of bad business decisions. Just like J.P. Morgan
How rich do you guys think the fischoeders really are? Millionaires, Multimillionaires, or Billionaires?
multimillionaire. He owns Oceanside property on the East Coast. Rent alone would make him super rich
Dozens of millions at least. They own a shorefront.
I honestly think that The Wharf hemorrhages money while he makes all his money back from renting property
Yeah Grover maybe a murderer but he probably was onto something with replacing the wharf with a megapark.
that's almost explicit. He's like a much more likeable twist on Mr. Burns, rich as hell and utterly out of touch with reality. mostly squeezing money out of things by running them poorly.
i forget the name of the artist who developed this style, he died somewhat recently.. but i'm not a huge fan of it.
Bob haf an offer from a rich friend who wanted to co-own the restaurant and add a tiki theme, but Bob cares too much about creative freedom.
The creative freedom of bad puns I guess.
bob is just generally a bad businessman and a great chef.
I think he represents Loren, who is a fantastic cartoon artist but has never really broken out and made it big until Bob's Burgers. I mean Home Movies was a big enough deal eventually, but it had to suffer and get canceled first, and everything else he's done is obscure and divisive. real underground. because he does shit his own way
Anon, I just want you to know that one time, when you were up at the house, Felix and I sat on your sandwich. Bare-bottomed. And then we served it to you, and you ate it all.
>Uck, I knew it! I tasted baby powder and thought to my self "How would baby powder get on a sandwich?" And I was all like "Did they get salt and baby powder mixed up?" and I was all like "No, you know exactly what happened, they sat on your sandwich, because that is just the kind of thing they think is funny!" They powder their bums like they're from the 1800s and they pull down their little pants and they sat on your sandwich!
>Do a Blade Runner "parody" with Tina.
>Don't use the fricking unicorn at all.
Shows they likely only had a rudimentary understanding of Blade Runner. And never really watched it.
I'd have liked to have seen Jimmy Jr's spazz run through a series of windows. But you know, it's not even that it was a BAD parody that annoyed me. It's that they felt it was worthy of a two parter. Like if they shrunk it down to 20 minutes it'd be whatever. They where showing this shit off though. They were proud of this crap.
yeah it was a bit up its own ass. and bob's burgers is like the least pretentious show on TV, so that kinda thing is beneath it.
they were parodying the book (?)
>Thought I hadn't seen that many episodes of Bob's
>Decide to rewatch through the show during my morning commutes
>I've seen everything through season 8
Maybe I'll see some new ones in Season 9.
I went back to the earlier seasons and I was actually amazed at how few episodes I remember watching
it's rewatchable as frick. as are all of bouchard's shows.
I didn't say that as a compliment. A lot of the plots have become really forgettable even in the early seasons. Not bad. But I really can't think of many jokes off the top of my head I would call quotable the way so many Simpsons ones where. I'll still sometimes answer the phone with "You'll have to speak up I'm wearing a towel."
it's a different kind of humor, but you're right. most of what i end up quoting are more routines, song lyrics, or cute things Linda says
I decided to rewatch the first episodes recently and it's fricking insane how different they are from the newer ones. They really feel like two completely different shows that just happen to share the same setting and character names.
yeah season 1 has way more edge. it got filed down a bit but it was still really funny for the first 6 to 8 seasons, and after that it's just good. same pattern as king of the hill but with fewer "KIDS these days am I right?" plots.
I'd take a million "Kids these days" plots over one "Tina being horny, stupid, and awkward" episode any day.
The kids really have fallen into a really bad formula. Louise probably gets the most variety followed by Tina but that's more to them having a wider supporting cast.
those are my favorite. it's what makes her special.
you can watch every other show made if you don't like that.
The kids are kinda hit-or-miss. For every good episode they have, like the one where Gene is opposed to Courtney's music video because it's shit, they have a bad one, like the one where Gene's creepy incestuous love for Linda reaches what is hopefully its peak and will never go back to that level again.
The real problem is that Bob is just way too sidelined. He's the main protagonist in name only these days, if he's lucky he might get around 6 episodes a season that feature him in the A-plot and doesn't just have him sitting in the restaurant with Linda and Teddy doing something to pad out the episode for 4 more minutes.
I liked the visuals, at least. Shit looked pretty.
you and i like different episodes for sure. i didnt much enjoy that video episode. but his attachment to linda is adorable.
Well yeah I'm not surprised, I know I'm probably in the minority here since these episodes that I'm not a fan of are still popular enough to get the show renewed for more seasons time and time again. Do you agree that Bob should get a little more focus again, though?
oh absofrickingmuch. i think he might be the hardest to write for, but he's never had a bad plot.. well, okay, that time when he met all his internet pals and it turned out he was being a real rude-ass online so they didnt like him. i RELATE to that, but I didn't love it.
but in general bob's the best, I love when he just loves a thing and talks to it in a falsetto voice..
I keep trying to sing along with Tina's part and I just fricking can't. Breathing is just not an option with that whole verse.
I can hold my breath for 3 minutes son, and am pretty monotone naturally. I own that segment.
I want Bob to finish his Speed bus model.
Can't believe this thread stayed up until the bump limit. Very cool
man that's a pretty cool louise right there.
i love that one of her toys is unlicensed. I forget, did that one talk?