>The pictures of these underground ruins were taken by my beautiful wife Santha, who has been with me on every dive and every expedition every step of the way and I couldn't have done any of this without her.
>and smoking DMT brings you into a parallel universe of the dead
Mostly true but it's not a parallel universe, just a different 'layer' of this universe.
Yeah we know they can't be real because if they were real then magic and God would be real and we know magic and God aren't real because that would be stupid and it's just obvious!
Chuddies need to go to college.
>take painkillers >it kills your pain >does the same for almost everyone >take hallucinogens >it gives you hallucinations >does the same for almost everyone >>"OMG PROOF OF ALTERNATE DIMENSION!!!111!!1"
Black person this is as much proof of that as me banging you over the head with a hammer resulting in brain damage would be. cause and effect you dumb shit
although maybe it wouldn't be capable of causing any more damage to your brain if it works this poorly already
Can you disprove him? Not saying he's right or what he thinks is truth should be taught in schools as fact, but how much do we really know and can know about the universe and reality? After James Lindsay showed how politicized and corrupt academia is I dont blame people for believing in alternate histories, let people believe what they want as long as they're not hurting anyone.
Obviously the burden of proof is on him for such ridiculous claims. But if the pyramids were built with telekinesis, why did the Egyptians have hundreds of thousands of slaves? All that work could be done with mind powers. Also I'm not saying people can't believe it but of course people will make fun of their moronation and try to convince them of the truth.
>turns out that these ancient people didn't learn anything by themselves and were instead taught everything they know by an even more ancient people that ... learned everything on their own
It made me mad that he came to a two-way discussion in such bad faith. He clearly had no interest in engaging honestly with Hanwiener's evidence, he just wanted to parrot establishment talking points without ever being questioned. He got noticeably ruffled just from Hanwiener or Rogan asking him questions and not taking everything he said as gospel truth.
Dribble couldn't even bring himself to give a straight answer on why he wouldn't even consider those underwater stone steps to LOOK man-made. His whole argument boiled down to "I haven't been told to believe this by a peer reviewed, fact checked cabal of mainstream geologists so I refuse to do anything but shout 'that can't be man-made' over and over."
If you're talking about the jap stones that every new age gay video mentions there's the same natural geological formation outside the water that for some reason geologists know but the pesoucience gays never mention this.
It's like with the eye of the Sahara, a well studied place but the Hanwiener tier mongs still push the narrative about le "uhh totally mysterious, they're hiding the truth" bs when you can go and see the fricking sedimentary strata
>there's the same natural geological formation outside the water that for some reason geologists know but the pesoucience gays never mention this
He couldn't even bring up such an example. All he did was insist it couldn't be man-made, and he didn't even have the honesty and knowledge to say something like, "Yes, I agree it LOOKS man-made, but take a look at XYZ places that are similar to ABC natural formations." Instead he came off like a child sticking his fingers in his ears and it made him look like a fool. I'm not even saying Hanwiener is definitely correct or anything, I just think Dribble's approach to the conversation was horrid and made him look like a disingenuous idiot.
If you're talking about the jap stones that every new age gay video mentions there's the same natural geological formation outside the water that for some reason geologists know but the pesoucience gays never mention this.
It's like with the eye of the Sahara, a well studied place but the Hanwiener tier mongs still push the narrative about le "uhh totally mysterious, they're hiding the truth" bs when you can go and see the fricking sedimentary strata
I remember watching ancient apocalypse when they showed that "underwater road" it just looked like a bunch of rocks and they had to overlay a fricking drawing of a road on top that to convince us it was a road. I was dying laughing. Also when those megaliths in malta are all pointing in random directions and he tries to say that they were all facing some star at one point which proves atlantis lmao.
The video game Star Fox 64 features a level set on a planet completely covered in water with massive, elaborate stone structures on the sea floor. Could this be a sign of latent genetic memories of a lost civilization destroyed in rapid flooding at the end of the last ice age?
Can you prove thay interdimentional Atlantis and ancient people moving huge rocks with mind powers while transcending humanity with psychedelics and creating super ancient advanced technology wasn't real huh?
checkmate science
There's not a lot we don't know history since archeology works by a vast amount of historical record forming a consensus. There might be some blind spots, but not to the extent that there was an ancient global empire that left no record whatsoever.
What I'm most interested in is how ancient hunter-gatherers so thoroughly deforested the entire Sahara and permanently turned it into a desert without the help of machines.
>some people might have built things earlier than previously thought
Graham Handwiener: It was an ancient advanced civilization! with ships and technology to spread farming and flood myths around the world! That"s why all these different places have a flood mythology!
All the places he mentioned are earthquake and tsunami prone areas
Yeah, and after the ice age they were floods everywhere, is not surprising that people have related stories, or that the floods having historical importance comes from civilizations living in deltas and flood plains
The studies about the remain of the rivers systems in the desert is fascinating, there's a system from Medina to Iraq that sometimes activates again with enough rain in the west
All I need to know is the tiny hat clan seems real furious whenever anyone looks into ancient history and goes against the grain so obviously there’s something there, probably an advanced aryan race like the Nazis were studying. The fact all of that is surprised or instantly shot down as nonsense and no one is allowed to go against out of Africa theory and the Middle East being the cradle of civilization basically proves there’s some cover up. I wouldn’t have thought this way before but since finding out nearly everything is a fricking lie from these people I’d bet there’s something here.
>All I need to know is the tiny hat clan seems real furious whenever anyone looks into ancient history and goes against the grain so obviously there’s something there
Yeah when smart people get mad at your moronation, it means you're actually right
>da jooz don't like this so it must be based and redpilled
Meanwhile hanwiener believes >all races should live together in harmony >open borders >no government >mandatory DMT trips for newborn babies >weed every day to enhance schizophrenia which is actually the truth
Yeah man you are really showing the israelites
>no government >mandatory DMT trips for newborn babies >weed every day to enhance schizophrenia which is actually the truth
All those are good and against the israelites
Black person, you don't need more than three brain cells to rub together to realize that it's moronic, even if you know literally nothing other than today. just look at today, a global civilization. what do we see? we see e.g., the same food everywhere. if they fired all the nukes and civilization came to a crash and rebuilt against from scratch back to the point of today, nobody would be confused about there having been an ancient global civilization previously, because there would be an unlimited amount of evidence for it absolutely everywhere, in the form of seeds, animals, people, all those genes, architecture, wild shit like giant mountain bunkers constructed everywhere, seed vaults on the fricking poles, in the ice cores, just everywhere, it would be irrefutable.
meanwhile, for hanwiener's theory there is literally zero evidence of anything he claims, AND a billion pieces of evidence against it
I honestly want to take a sledgehammer to every one of your braindead fricking morons to turn your skulls into sludge for making me realize we share the same genetic lineage
>Hey that is a cute cat
<UH AYCHSKUALLY, DID YOU JUST ASSUME THAT cats SPECIES??? ARE YOU A BIOLOGIST AND A TRAINED VETERINARIAN??? IF NOT FRICK OFF LAYMAN.
>Cinemaphile is taking the side of a literal "DUDE WHAT IF ALIENS DID WEED LMAO" gay because contrarianism
kek. do teh israelites not want me to do DMT?
>just turn ur brain off bro believing giants and space aliens did everything is heckin epic
nah, i'd rather believe that 1000 years ago men, whose names we will never know, came together and drove themselves to build something beautiful through blood sweat and tears
I never said anything about space aliens. I know the other post did, but I only said I like Hanwiener's stories, none of which include aliens. It doesn't even take away from the achievements of humanity, it just supposes humanity achieved things on a different scale in a different order.
I never said anything about space aliens. I know the other post did, but I only said I like Hanwiener's stories, none of which include aliens. It doesn't even take away from the achievements of humanity, it just supposes humanity achieved things on a different scale in a different order.
>they don't know about his book "The Mars Mystery"
Hanwiener is a grifting charlatan, and he duped you.
This is irrefutable proof that ancient martians came to earth and built atlantis using telekinesis, gave us DMT so we could talk to demons in the afterlife and spread the flood myth to all cultures. And if you don't believe me youre a israelite
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
hey how much do they pay to shill here? or are you like the janitor or something
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
how much do you get paid to be a moron? or do you do it for free?
The thing is that although Graham has raised more public interest in archaeology and ancient civilizations, it is sad such interest promotes itself through wishful thinking if not straight up delusion.
>be israelite >come on Cinemaphile and act like a israelite >get called a israelite immediately every single time >continue to act like a smarmy israelite
Why do you guys do this? What could you possibly think it accomplishes to constantly be pointed out and never, ever course correct?
>But I'm not a israelite anon >you seem pretty schizophrenic
I'm going to ask you again. The face of all evidence that this doesn't and will never work on this website, being recognized immediately and your tactics being obvious and light shed on them to people every day, why continue making the same play?
Stop browsing /misc/ (or /x/ but they're almost the same thing these days) that place makes you moronic if you go there unironically
or do you wanna taste my non kosher non mutilated benis to be happy?
Hanwiener is mostly a quack but I do think it is worthwhile to do research around ancient human history.
There is merit to the idea that humanity, or more specifically, civilization, is older than we think. I don’t believe there was a super advanced world spanning civilization before the ice age but its not impossible for there to have been pockets of more “advanced” humans further back. Its nice to keep an open mind.
To me it seems impossible to say that modern humans have existed for 200,000 years AND it only took us 10,000 years to go from cave-dwelling simpletons to space and pocket supercomputers, BUT this is ABSOLUTELY the first time this has ever happened and humans were just stagnant and not developing at all for 190,000 years or more until one day they just suddenly exploded into technological progress that brought us to where we are today.
So 290,000 years of stagnant cave-dwelling before suddenly exploding into agriculture and civilization. Even less believable. Human civilization could have developed and been wiped out dozens of times in that timeframe at a conservative estimate based on what we know about the rate of human progress.
only in the context of "they developed nukes and then nuked themselves". there are other ways for humanity to be wiped...say, a global flood for instance
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>global flood
There's not enough water on the planet for that, bible gays are moronic if they think that local floods must be interpreted as something global
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
doesn't have to be the biblical flood, could also be virus, or natural climate change/disaster, etc. I just like to bait you glowies
The Flood is literally a paleolithic myth. Its presence is different continents can be explained for the same reason of other global folkloric motifs.
such a knee jerk reaction kek
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The Flood is literally a paleolithic myth. Its presence is different continents can be explained for the same reason of other global folkloric motifs.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Its presence is different continents can be explained for the same reason of other global folkloric motifs.
That reason being...?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
nta but shit happens and humans make myths about it, is nothing new and pretty similar across distant cultures. like people turned into trees or animals as punishment, natural phenomena also being the fury of the gods, rape forest creatures that get maidens preggo (that was sure invented by women to explain inconvenient pregnancies I bet) etc
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
except the flood myth is very specific, and is almost always "God and/or gods are sick of humanity/think there are too much humans and tries to kill them. God/the gods/or some higher race saves humanity".
>we cannot replicate with our technology
homie that's debunked bs and you know it
lazy debunk glowie, this is why you are paid like shit despite defending the keys to the glow kingdom :/
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>If you don't agree with meme disproven bs you're le glowie from some CIA or similar
solid argument there Giorgios
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>it's been debunked but I won't provide any reference of any kind for said debunking, just take my word for it!
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Even in the modern age we see techniques and technologies fall into disuse and either get lost or nearly lost
the moon landing was fake, nice try. as for the rest of deb00nk, I said nothing about the knowledge of the technique, I was pointing out that OUR technology AND our AI cannot figure it out, nor replicate it. that's with our cranes and glowie quantum computers.
[...]
0/10 effort, this is why you aren't paid more than a school teacher lol
There are hours and hours of videos with actual scientists and engineers talking about the subject of pseudohistory and the specific "humans can't do this" joke since the Ancien Aliens meme more than 10 years ago, idiots like you prefer meme journalism fiction over actual science because is glowie joo 'n shieet, litteral wewuzism without the being black part
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>still no links to anything specifically debunking the particular claim you said has been debunked
No one is just going to take your word for it.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
NTA, but here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3A_kItgymQ&t=626s
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>wiener eyed gay israeli dude here to deb00nk with ancient stone chisels that don't explain the precision and lifting of 100 ton stones >geologists against myths >DNA test sponsorship
this is the most glowing thing I've ever seen
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
People know how to build heavy structures with massive blocks since millenia, are you guys really pretending to be moronic for the sake of contrarianism
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
See:
Okay, so how did they get the capstones on the pyramids?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
with ramps and slowly like the rest of the pyramid duh, it is not new knowledge since there are records and the damn town that housed the workers, do you still not understand that these shows are more fiction and entertainment than anything else and they deliberately don't mention widely known shit to maintain the narrative?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Okay, so where are these miles-long ramps that would be required to get those capstones that high up with only pushing? What were they made of? Do you have any definitive citations for any of it? You said we know exactly how they did it, so surely that means you're aware of this information being documented someplace.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>parroting the miles long ramp moronic meme
It was obviosly ayys and telekinesis for sure
https://science.howstuffworks.com/engineering/structural/egyptian-pyramids-built-with-ramps-not-alien-technology.htm#:~:text=Yes%2C%20various%20alternative%20theories%20have,methods%20by%20ancient%20Egyptian%20workers.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I never said it was aliens or telekinesis. I think it's more likely they had cranes or something similar, that's the simplest example.
As for your link, it doesn't explain how they came to these conclusions, they just seem to be asserting facts about these constructs based on nothing.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
There's evidence of spiral style ramps, is there any evidence for ancient cranes capable of doing that?
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
The footprints they attribute to earthen and wood spiral ramps constructed using lost techniques could just as easily be the footprints of large earthen and wood cranes constructed using lost techniques. It's not like they found the ramps, they just found imprints of what could possibly be ramps. Their descriptions of all the post-holes and rope systems are made up from nothing because they didn't find an actual structure.
Pic related is literally all they found, and from that they imagined the rest. My explanation is just as valid as theirs.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>people know how to build pyramids with massive blocks everywhere >they just don't know now because they don't ok
lol
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>they just don't know now
they know idiot, but there's no royalty pushing the population for doing it, or the economy for it like in the aztec or mayan city states during apecific times
by the time of Tutankhamon making huge tombs like that was no longer a feasible thing
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
There myths way more specific than the Flood, yet rarely someone outside circles of folklorists or mythologists mention them. For example: in the Magic Flight a boy and a girl have to flee monsters/cannibals who pursue them while throwing THREE objects that turn into titanic obstacles.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>except the flood myth is very specific
Even the native Americans have flood stories you mong
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
learn to read. I was pointing out that GLOBAL civilizations have a myth that is structurally similar
There myths way more specific than the Flood, yet rarely someone outside circles of folklorists or mythologists mention them. For example: in the Magic Flight a boy and a girl have to flee monsters/cannibals who pursue them while throwing THREE objects that turn into titanic obstacles.
has nothing to do with my point, and does nothing to deb00nk the global myth of the flood
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>has nothing to do with my point, and does nothing to deb00nk the global myth of the flood
It shows the Flood as a global myth is not special, and the occurrence of such myths can be accounted by more believable causes such as diffusionism rather than a direct product of a literal flood.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>That reason being...?
Diffusionism. >« Les peuples n’inventent pas leurs histoires, ils les copient » -Yuri Berezkin.
https://www.lavie.fr/idees/histoire/yuri-berezkin-les-peuples-ninventent-pas-leurs-histoires-ils-les-copient-81689.php
To me it seems impossible to say that modern humans have existed for 200,000 years AND it only took us 10,000 years to go from cave-dwelling simpletons to space and pocket supercomputers, BUT this is ABSOLUTELY the first time this has ever happened and humans were just stagnant and not developing at all for 190,000 years or more until one day they just suddenly exploded into technological progress that brought us to where we are today.
I don't necessarily disagree but you're applying a linear curve to what is an exponential process. We didn't do shit for 300k years then develop for 10. We developped for 300k years, it was just extremely slow at the beginning. Every little progress made the next one faster.
the earliest modern human man found is 100,000 years ago. we also have a bunch of ancient structures laying around we cannot replicate with our technology. even with AI. the progressive/linear theory of technology has to be thrown out. there was something known and then something lost.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>we cannot replicate with our technology
homie that's debunked bs and you know it
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>there was something known and then something lost.
Even in the modern age we see techniques and technologies fall into disuse and either get lost or nearly lost, and that's with the existence of writing and book printing. Imagine how easy it was for knowledge to disappear when a limited number of people are passing the traditions down orally. What happens if the 100 people who all know the ins and outs of a technique all die in a disaster? That knowledge either disappears or experiences extreme setbacks while less-skilled people have to try to build their knowledge up retroactively without the help of those dead experts.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Even in the modern age we see techniques and technologies fall into disuse and either get lost or nearly lost
the moon landing was fake, nice try. as for the rest of deb00nk, I said nothing about the knowledge of the technique, I was pointing out that OUR technology AND our AI cannot figure it out, nor replicate it. that's with our cranes and glowie quantum computers.
>If you don't agree with meme disproven bs you're le glowie from some CIA or similar
solid argument there Giorgios
0/10 effort, this is why you aren't paid more than a school teacher lol
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>deb00nk
Anon, I was AGREEING with you. I AGREE that knowledge in the ancient world could have been lost because even in the modern world we lose knowledge despite our much more robust documentation methods.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I apologize, I skim when the glowie brigade start posting, I hope you understand.
>has nothing to do with my point, and does nothing to deb00nk the global myth of the flood
It shows the Flood as a global myth is not special, and the occurrence of such myths can be accounted by more believable causes such as diffusionism rather than a direct product of a literal flood.
it doesn't need to be "special", it just needs to exist. if you're gonna post a deb00nk at least post it in english.
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There are hours and hours of videos with actual scientists and engineers talking about the subject of pseudohistory and the specific "humans can't do this" joke since the Ancien Aliens meme more than 10 years ago, idiots like you prefer meme journalism fiction over actual science because is glowie joo 'n shieet, litteral wewuzism without the being black part
actual scientists and engineers don't know how they did any of the shit, that's the problem glowtard
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
yeah, the "scientists and engineers" from those pseudoscience slop shows lmao
Now tell me what academic degree and experience Hanwiener has
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
hanwiener is a glowie as far as I'm concerning, you don't need to believe in psionics or ancient aliens to believe in advanced pre historic civilizations.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
Okay, so how did they get the capstones on the pyramids?
No we are definitely the most advanced we've ever been. It took billions of years just for the cell to evolve to its current form, then multicellular life exploded into existence and has existed for a fragment of Earth's timeline. Life slowly grows then explodes with innovation. There could have been ancient advanced civilisations but we are definitely the most advanced in history. There would be plenty of evidence in ice and sediment and in dry areas. Oil would have already been drained. Global genetic bottlenecks of species would have been detected as this past society reduced wild populations. Excavated rock and soil would be everywhere. There'd be a giant layer of human bones in the fossil record. I could go on
>we are definitely the most advanced we've ever been.
That doesn't conflict with what I said. We can be the most advanced we've ever been AND ancient humans could have been far more advanced than we think they were. If humans reached Bronze Age level technology multiple times over the last 200,000 years that would satisfy both of those criteria.
That's just what we can find. I really do think humans rose to higher levels of technology much earlier than we think. I don't think they were sailing around the globe, but I think they were farming and building shit.
What's really confusing to me is that ancient egyptians apparently figured out how to make these massive pyramids, which no doubt were very complex and time consuming and tedious to construct, but then never applied the same architectural solutions and applications on any other major construction projects.
If a society can organize and construct the pyramids, then it stands to reason they would go "well, if he can do this, let's see what else we can do" and from then on they'd undertake other massive construction projects.
They did have a vast number of temples and so on, but nothing really on the order of magnitude of a pyramid. You'd think they'd create exceptionally large palaces or whatnot too using all that construction knowledge.
Anon, there was nothing greater for them than the afterlife and their pharaoh, and well... what do you think the pyramids were? [hint: it wasn't an alien power source]
>uuuuuuh it was the slaves who built it >lots and lots of slaves >mass graves of slaves? uuuuuuuuuh it's not there because it's just not ok
Okay, so where are these miles-long ramps that would be required to get those capstones that high up with only pushing? What were they made of? Do you have any definitive citations for any of it? You said we know exactly how they did it, so surely that means you're aware of this information being documented someplace.
i'm sure they're getting their talking points from glowie discord lol
>grave sites nowhere near pyramids >despite the fact a hypothetical slave work force in the legendary egyptian desert would have killed a lot of em
hmm
>they just don't know now
they know idiot, but there's no royalty pushing the population for doing it, or the economy for it like in the aztec or mayan city states during apecific times
by the time of Tutankhamon making huge tombs like that was no longer a feasible thing
>they know
ok, show us proof they know. but you can't, because none of them know lol. most pyramids around the world (non egyptian) aren't even really connected to the civilizations that were there. a good non pyramid example is tenochtitlan, the aztecs have no idea who built it
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>most pyramids around the world (non egyptian) aren't even really connected to the civilizations that were there
except they are, from central America to Indonesia, wtf are you lying like that?
They build massive structures and a pyramid is not that complex
https://www.vietravel.com/en/around-the-world/10-most-impressive-ancient-egyptian-temples-v12182.aspx
I'm sick of these fricking homosexuals and their dumb frick assertions, they've never fricking thought about for more than half a second. Just blind trust.
how fricking stupid are you? he's not referring to a las vegas replica, he's talking about a genuine copy with all the astronomical techniques. I hope your supervisor fricking writes you up this is embarrassing.
Egyptians never lost the knowledge of where the cardinal points and the stars are just because making pyramids was crazy expensive
you keep making up arguments that never existed
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
misrepresentation
go ask chatGPT why we no longer make large, single use solid monoliths if you really need to know the answer you braindead redditard
lazy attempt to break consensus
>most pyramids around the world (non egyptian) aren't even really connected to the civilizations that were there
except they are, from central America to Indonesia, wtf are you lying like that?
incorrect, in SA they actually just call them "mayans" despite not having a real record of ancient SA history. or a real overarching mayan civilization. this is actually a pretty interesting topic I've never really seen anyone cover.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
for me, it's the Caral-supe civilization
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>mayans >SA >no historical or cultural connection between the mayan city states and the mayans or the aztecs with the toltecs and other peoples
It's not like I had much doubt I was talking to an idiot but I didn't expect that much.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
the aztecs were from the north and no, they did not have any "connection" with the other people other than slavery. this is how they took over tenochtitlan but then admitted to the spaniards they have no idea who built it. one can only imagine if the spaniards never asked, the "scientists" would have said it was mayan. additionally, when they say "mayan" they are using it like when they talk about "egyptians", there was never a continuous ethnic civilization. you can't compare them to the greeks either, because in that case we have tons of histories that have made their ways to us and their city states are incredibly unique and distinct
>we no longer make large single use monoliths
Meanwhile humans: >destroying acres of forestry for a few windmills that can power 1/10th of a small town for 15 years, when there's no wind drought... or its not TOO windy
this + the pyramids seem to be over kill for just being used as crypts for their leaders, even the interiors are puzzling if they were just crypts. Also weren't they built in line with particular constellations?
>robert sepehr
The type of quack who extrapolates archaelogy and is goes straight into genetics for his headcanon. What a shame, I really like all his mystical interpretations of myths in his YouTube channel, though.
I actually watched the episode up to the part where Joe sort of deboonks the seed deboonking (around 3 hours 11 minutes into the episode).
He points out a flaw in the seed cultivation argument in that it's possible for the 'cultivated seeds' to revert back to their feral distributions over a period of time of no human cultivation.
Meaning it's possible that:
1. ancient human civilizations cultivated seed crops
2. cataclysm came, and most of the population lost that technology, the seeds reverted back to feral distributions
3. an ancient civilization with a seed bank went around teaching other people agriculture again
I heard the deboonking on Joe Rogan.
I now think Hanwiener is right.
Seethe.
>The pictures of these underground ruins were taken by my beautiful wife Santha, who has been with me on every dive and every expedition every step of the way and I couldn't have done any of this without her.
he would probably throw her out of a helicopter just to get a crumb at this point
>evidence? How dare you!
Reminder that hanwiener believes that the pyramids were built using telekinesis and smoking DMT brings you into a parallel universe of the dead
>and smoking DMT brings you into a parallel universe of the dead
Mostly true but it's not a parallel universe, just a different 'layer' of this universe.
They're hallucinations anon
Yeah we know they can't be real because if they were real then magic and God would be real and we know magic and God aren't real because that would be stupid and it's just obvious!
Chuddies need to go to college.
Take your pills anon.
>take painkillers
>it kills your pain
>does the same for almost everyone
>take hallucinogens
>it gives you hallucinations
>does the same for almost everyone
>>"OMG PROOF OF ALTERNATE DIMENSION!!!111!!1"
Black person this is as much proof of that as me banging you over the head with a hammer resulting in brain damage would be. cause and effect you dumb shit
although maybe it wouldn't be capable of causing any more damage to your brain if it works this poorly already
>they're hallucinations because... BECAUSE IT'S JUST OBVIOUS OKAY!
Sciencecucks...
>m-my tulpa is real and really loves me!
sure buddy
>names exist
>"yup, bunk'd that for ya"
i'm gonna find you in the afterlife and laugh at you
screencap this with your mind lil homie
Can you disprove him? Not saying he's right or what he thinks is truth should be taught in schools as fact, but how much do we really know and can know about the universe and reality? After James Lindsay showed how politicized and corrupt academia is I dont blame people for believing in alternate histories, let people believe what they want as long as they're not hurting anyone.
Obviously the burden of proof is on him for such ridiculous claims. But if the pyramids were built with telekinesis, why did the Egyptians have hundreds of thousands of slaves? All that work could be done with mind powers. Also I'm not saying people can't believe it but of course people will make fun of their moronation and try to convince them of the truth.
hanwiener isn't above suspicion himself. just because you doubt the establishment theory on the pyramids doesn't mean you believe in psionics
>Obviously the burden of proof is on him for such ridiculous claims
take a bunch of dmt and find out for yourself
I can disprove it right now. If psykinetic powers were real I would have remotely crushed your stupid fricking skull
>smoking DMT brings you into a parallel universe of the dead
yea
>smoking DMT brings you into a parallel universe of the dead
This is true though, if you doubt it then just smoke it and see for yourself
>turns out that these ancient people didn't learn anything by themselves and were instead taught everything they know by an even more ancient people that ... learned everything on their own
You've literally seen this exact scenario play out in your own lifetime, in Africa.
you mean they built everything and invented everything and made your country?
DAS RITE
maybe they should have invented polyester
>those pieces of evidence? Yeah I'll just laugh them off because racism
Bravo Flint
It made me mad that he came to a two-way discussion in such bad faith. He clearly had no interest in engaging honestly with Hanwiener's evidence, he just wanted to parrot establishment talking points without ever being questioned. He got noticeably ruffled just from Hanwiener or Rogan asking him questions and not taking everything he said as gospel truth.
>Hanwiener's evidence
Dribble couldn't even bring himself to give a straight answer on why he wouldn't even consider those underwater stone steps to LOOK man-made. His whole argument boiled down to "I haven't been told to believe this by a peer reviewed, fact checked cabal of mainstream geologists so I refuse to do anything but shout 'that can't be man-made' over and over."
If you're talking about the jap stones that every new age gay video mentions there's the same natural geological formation outside the water that for some reason geologists know but the pesoucience gays never mention this.
It's like with the eye of the Sahara, a well studied place but the Hanwiener tier mongs still push the narrative about le "uhh totally mysterious, they're hiding the truth" bs when you can go and see the fricking sedimentary strata
>there's the same natural geological formation outside the water that for some reason geologists know but the pesoucience gays never mention this
He couldn't even bring up such an example. All he did was insist it couldn't be man-made, and he didn't even have the honesty and knowledge to say something like, "Yes, I agree it LOOKS man-made, but take a look at XYZ places that are similar to ABC natural formations." Instead he came off like a child sticking his fingers in his ears and it made him look like a fool. I'm not even saying Hanwiener is definitely correct or anything, I just think Dribble's approach to the conversation was horrid and made him look like a disingenuous idiot.
I remember watching ancient apocalypse when they showed that "underwater road" it just looked like a bunch of rocks and they had to overlay a fricking drawing of a road on top that to convince us it was a road. I was dying laughing. Also when those megaliths in malta are all pointing in random directions and he tries to say that they were all facing some star at one point which proves atlantis lmao.
The video game Star Fox 64 features a level set on a planet completely covered in water with massive, elaborate stone structures on the sea floor. Could this be a sign of latent genetic memories of a lost civilization destroyed in rapid flooding at the end of the last ice age?
Yes
Can you prove thay interdimentional Atlantis and ancient people moving huge rocks with mind powers while transcending humanity with psychedelics and creating super ancient advanced technology wasn't real huh?
checkmate science
There's not a lot we don't know history since archeology works by a vast amount of historical record forming a consensus. There might be some blind spots, but not to the extent that there was an ancient global empire that left no record whatsoever.
What I'm most interested in is how ancient hunter-gatherers so thoroughly deforested the entire Sahara and permanently turned it into a desert without the help of machines.
With drugs, lots of drugs
Spoken word wasn't invented yet to distract them with idle prattle.
just light it on fire and kill the animals faster than they can reproduce
kind of like how europe's treating it's native rn
why can't we reforest it again with our "science"
WE JUST CAN'T OKAY
>The Evidence? It came to me in a prophetic dream.
>some people might have built things earlier than previously thought
Graham Handwiener: It was an ancient advanced civilization! with ships and technology to spread farming and flood myths around the world! That"s why all these different places have a flood mythology!
All the places he mentioned are earthquake and tsunami prone areas
Yeah, and after the ice age they were floods everywhere, is not surprising that people have related stories, or that the floods having historical importance comes from civilizations living in deltas and flood plains
The Middle East of course is known for its tsunamis.
they literally just had big problems with floods in arabia, all over the news
Well that's proof that Hanwiener is right.
The studies about the remain of the rivers systems in the desert is fascinating, there's a system from Medina to Iraq that sometimes activates again with enough rain in the west
All I need to know is the tiny hat clan seems real furious whenever anyone looks into ancient history and goes against the grain so obviously there’s something there, probably an advanced aryan race like the Nazis were studying. The fact all of that is surprised or instantly shot down as nonsense and no one is allowed to go against out of Africa theory and the Middle East being the cradle of civilization basically proves there’s some cover up. I wouldn’t have thought this way before but since finding out nearly everything is a fricking lie from these people I’d bet there’s something here.
>All I need to know is the tiny hat clan seems real furious whenever anyone looks into ancient history and goes against the grain so obviously there’s something there
Yeah when smart people get mad at your moronation, it means you're actually right
Thank you Rabbi may I have another
Another what? Braincell, for the pair?
>probably an advanced aryan race like the Nazis were studying.
WE
Well at least you admit you're moronic and don't know anything
Aryan brother, you be saying we wuz ancient sumerians?
no mein bruder, we were atlanteans and such
Brudermind
we're telepathically connected by the atlantean blood
Based, we are kings mein bruder!
>da jooz don't like this so it must be based and redpilled
Meanwhile hanwiener believes
>all races should live together in harmony
>open borders
>no government
>mandatory DMT trips for newborn babies
>weed every day to enhance schizophrenia which is actually the truth
Yeah man you are really showing the israelites
>no government
>mandatory DMT trips for newborn babies
>weed every day to enhance schizophrenia which is actually the truth
All those are good and against the israelites
Uh oh, Rabbi Shmuley isn't going to like this...
and based on how much anons seethed at this post you have to be right
Do you not know about the korean finno hyperwar
some heroes live long enough to become the villain
Graham was Joe’s guy too. Has he reacted at all to accidentally setting him up to be completely discredited and ignored going forward?
How did joe set him up to be discredited?
There you go again, Graham, with your racism
What makes a guy decide to show up to an international broadcast dressed like this?
He looks like a 12 year old wearing his dad's clothes.
Chosen people genetics
kinda looks like the buttler from Scary Movie 2. you know, the one with the "stron hand"
>NOOOO YOU HAVE CRITIQUE THE RACIST COLONIZERS IF YOU QUOTE THEM
I like how Cinemaphile posters are now experts in archaeology because they read a bunch of reddit comments about a podcast episode.
You don't need to be an expert to laugh about ancient ayyliens and neohippie homosexualry
Black person, you don't need more than three brain cells to rub together to realize that it's moronic, even if you know literally nothing other than today. just look at today, a global civilization. what do we see? we see e.g., the same food everywhere. if they fired all the nukes and civilization came to a crash and rebuilt against from scratch back to the point of today, nobody would be confused about there having been an ancient global civilization previously, because there would be an unlimited amount of evidence for it absolutely everywhere, in the form of seeds, animals, people, all those genes, architecture, wild shit like giant mountain bunkers constructed everywhere, seed vaults on the fricking poles, in the ice cores, just everywhere, it would be irrefutable.
meanwhile, for hanwiener's theory there is literally zero evidence of anything he claims, AND a billion pieces of evidence against it
I honestly want to take a sledgehammer to every one of your braindead fricking morons to turn your skulls into sludge for making me realize we share the same genetic lineage
>these ancient people that worked stone in ways we cant replicate must have been exactly like us
get ye gone juden
You're right it must have been they greys. That makes a lot of sense. I will smoke more Ayahuasca to discover the truth about this...
>Hey that is a cute cat
<UH AYCHSKUALLY, DID YOU JUST ASSUME THAT cats SPECIES??? ARE YOU A BIOLOGIST AND A TRAINED VETERINARIAN??? IF NOT FRICK OFF LAYMAN.
consider trying to think in terms that aren't "I AM SILLY" strawmen
You do not deserve that and that is essentially what your ilk does. Ex:
Scientific study being transformed into a neo-religion has been a disaster for both science and religion
>It is different when we do it.
Do you always appeal to authority?
why are israelites trying so hard to discredit the idea of an Atlantean civilization? Do they not want us to know the true history of the Aryans?
Probably
he never said that
>Jews hate the idea of censored ancient civilizations so much they have 24/7 shills stationed in all these threads
homie daz cuuuuuhrazzzzeee
What if shills are alien controlled shills, or alien themselves!
>Cinemaphile is taking the side of a literal "DUDE WHAT IF ALIENS DID WEED LMAO" gay because contrarianism
kek. do teh israelites not want me to do DMT?
It's mostly the schizo/misc/ tourists
for whatever reason they love that clown
His theories are more fun than the mainstream theories and believing in the more fun theories doesn't impact my daily life negatively so who cares?
>just turn ur brain off bro believing giants and space aliens did everything is heckin epic
nah, i'd rather believe that 1000 years ago men, whose names we will never know, came together and drove themselves to build something beautiful through blood sweat and tears
>i believe in thelies for teh epek story
I don't have a jak that encapsulates your idiocy
you struggle with understanding context, huh?
I never said anything about space aliens. I know the other post did, but I only said I like Hanwiener's stories, none of which include aliens. It doesn't even take away from the achievements of humanity, it just supposes humanity achieved things on a different scale in a different order.
Rabbis please quiet down the Atlanteans are speaking, you know the real chosen people.
Why do people in this thread keep bringing up aliens? What does that have to do with Hanwiener or his theories?
It's just one israelite
It doesn’t. The foreskin cutters do what they can to discredit and defame anyone on the right track.
>they don't know about his book "The Mars Mystery"
Hanwiener is a grifting charlatan, and he duped you.
holy shit what a quack
>Sphinx-like structure depicting a face with distinguishable diadem, teeth, mouth, and Egyptian-style headdress
May I see it?
How is this Sphinx-like and where are the teeth and headdress?
>how is that sphinx like
big head in the desert
>believing anything from nasa
lol
isn't the first pic also from nasa?
No I took that photo
yes. that's how they operate. bait with fake pic, then discredit conspiracy theorists with it. kinda like flat earth.
aw did I hit a nerve? must not be paid much :/
lmao no way he's mentioning this bs in his book.
that's the face in Cydonia, maybe there's another sphinx or something
The pareidolia tard fears that better definition pic
and following 20 years old news
This is irrefutable proof that ancient martians came to earth and built atlantis using telekinesis, gave us DMT so we could talk to demons in the afterlife and spread the flood myth to all cultures. And if you don't believe me youre a israelite
hey how much do they pay to shill here? or are you like the janitor or something
how much do you get paid to be a moron? or do you do it for free?
The thing is that although Graham has raised more public interest in archaeology and ancient civilizations, it is sad such interest promotes itself through wishful thinking if not straight up delusion.
or graham is a glowy, set up as a public face, then is discredited with his "crazy" stuff to poison the well on the topic.
"the mars mystery" came out in 1997, most people believed in the face on mars back then
don't see how this discredits him
yeah but he's writing a book and he is supposed to be an academic. He just jumped on the wagon and tried to make a buck out of fools
Why do people in this thread keep bringing up israelites? What does that have to do with Hanwiener or his theories?
>be israelite
>come on Cinemaphile and act like a israelite
>get called a israelite immediately every single time
>continue to act like a smarmy israelite
Why do you guys do this? What could you possibly think it accomplishes to constantly be pointed out and never, ever course correct?
But I'm not a israelite anon, you seem pretty schizophrenic tbh
do you imagine people calling you out for being a moron are israelites all the time?
>But I'm not a israelite anon
>you seem pretty schizophrenic
I'm going to ask you again. The face of all evidence that this doesn't and will never work on this website, being recognized immediately and your tactics being obvious and light shed on them to people every day, why continue making the same play?
Stop browsing /misc/ (or /x/ but they're almost the same thing these days) that place makes you moronic if you go there unironically
or do you wanna taste my non kosher non mutilated benis to be happy?
stop murdering palestinians
If only I could kill more 🙁
>for some reason scientists refuse to consider my wild claims that are offered without any evidence
Hanwiener is mostly a quack but I do think it is worthwhile to do research around ancient human history.
There is merit to the idea that humanity, or more specifically, civilization, is older than we think. I don’t believe there was a super advanced world spanning civilization before the ice age but its not impossible for there to have been pockets of more “advanced” humans further back. Its nice to keep an open mind.
To me it seems impossible to say that modern humans have existed for 200,000 years AND it only took us 10,000 years to go from cave-dwelling simpletons to space and pocket supercomputers, BUT this is ABSOLUTELY the first time this has ever happened and humans were just stagnant and not developing at all for 190,000 years or more until one day they just suddenly exploded into technological progress that brought us to where we are today.
>200,000
atm it's 300,000
So 290,000 years of stagnant cave-dwelling before suddenly exploding into agriculture and civilization. Even less believable. Human civilization could have developed and been wiped out dozens of times in that timeframe at a conservative estimate based on what we know about the rate of human progress.
That seems even more unlikely
only in the context of "they developed nukes and then nuked themselves". there are other ways for humanity to be wiped...say, a global flood for instance
>global flood
There's not enough water on the planet for that, bible gays are moronic if they think that local floods must be interpreted as something global
doesn't have to be the biblical flood, could also be virus, or natural climate change/disaster, etc. I just like to bait you glowies
such a knee jerk reaction kek
The Flood is literally a paleolithic myth. Its presence is different continents can be explained for the same reason of other global folkloric motifs.
>Its presence is different continents can be explained for the same reason of other global folkloric motifs.
That reason being...?
nta but shit happens and humans make myths about it, is nothing new and pretty similar across distant cultures. like people turned into trees or animals as punishment, natural phenomena also being the fury of the gods, rape forest creatures that get maidens preggo (that was sure invented by women to explain inconvenient pregnancies I bet) etc
except the flood myth is very specific, and is almost always "God and/or gods are sick of humanity/think there are too much humans and tries to kill them. God/the gods/or some higher race saves humanity".
lazy debunk glowie, this is why you are paid like shit despite defending the keys to the glow kingdom :/
>If you don't agree with meme disproven bs you're le glowie from some CIA or similar
solid argument there Giorgios
>it's been debunked but I won't provide any reference of any kind for said debunking, just take my word for it!
There are hours and hours of videos with actual scientists and engineers talking about the subject of pseudohistory and the specific "humans can't do this" joke since the Ancien Aliens meme more than 10 years ago, idiots like you prefer meme journalism fiction over actual science because is glowie joo 'n shieet, litteral wewuzism without the being black part
>still no links to anything specifically debunking the particular claim you said has been debunked
No one is just going to take your word for it.
NTA, but here is a link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3A_kItgymQ&t=626s
>wiener eyed gay israeli dude here to deb00nk with ancient stone chisels that don't explain the precision and lifting of 100 ton stones
>geologists against myths
>DNA test sponsorship
this is the most glowing thing I've ever seen
People know how to build heavy structures with massive blocks since millenia, are you guys really pretending to be moronic for the sake of contrarianism
See:
with ramps and slowly like the rest of the pyramid duh, it is not new knowledge since there are records and the damn town that housed the workers, do you still not understand that these shows are more fiction and entertainment than anything else and they deliberately don't mention widely known shit to maintain the narrative?
Okay, so where are these miles-long ramps that would be required to get those capstones that high up with only pushing? What were they made of? Do you have any definitive citations for any of it? You said we know exactly how they did it, so surely that means you're aware of this information being documented someplace.
>parroting the miles long ramp moronic meme
It was obviosly ayys and telekinesis for sure
https://science.howstuffworks.com/engineering/structural/egyptian-pyramids-built-with-ramps-not-alien-technology.htm#:~:text=Yes%2C%20various%20alternative%20theories%20have,methods%20by%20ancient%20Egyptian%20workers.
I never said it was aliens or telekinesis. I think it's more likely they had cranes or something similar, that's the simplest example.
As for your link, it doesn't explain how they came to these conclusions, they just seem to be asserting facts about these constructs based on nothing.
There's evidence of spiral style ramps, is there any evidence for ancient cranes capable of doing that?
The footprints they attribute to earthen and wood spiral ramps constructed using lost techniques could just as easily be the footprints of large earthen and wood cranes constructed using lost techniques. It's not like they found the ramps, they just found imprints of what could possibly be ramps. Their descriptions of all the post-holes and rope systems are made up from nothing because they didn't find an actual structure.
Pic related is literally all they found, and from that they imagined the rest. My explanation is just as valid as theirs.
>people know how to build pyramids with massive blocks everywhere
>they just don't know now because they don't ok
lol
>they just don't know now
they know idiot, but there's no royalty pushing the population for doing it, or the economy for it like in the aztec or mayan city states during apecific times
by the time of Tutankhamon making huge tombs like that was no longer a feasible thing
There myths way more specific than the Flood, yet rarely someone outside circles of folklorists or mythologists mention them. For example: in the Magic Flight a boy and a girl have to flee monsters/cannibals who pursue them while throwing THREE objects that turn into titanic obstacles.
>except the flood myth is very specific
Even the native Americans have flood stories you mong
learn to read. I was pointing out that GLOBAL civilizations have a myth that is structurally similar
has nothing to do with my point, and does nothing to deb00nk the global myth of the flood
>has nothing to do with my point, and does nothing to deb00nk the global myth of the flood
It shows the Flood as a global myth is not special, and the occurrence of such myths can be accounted by more believable causes such as diffusionism rather than a direct product of a literal flood.
>That reason being...?
Diffusionism.
>« Les peuples n’inventent pas leurs histoires, ils les copient » -Yuri Berezkin.
https://www.lavie.fr/idees/histoire/yuri-berezkin-les-peuples-ninventent-pas-leurs-histoires-ils-les-copient-81689.php
I don't necessarily disagree but you're applying a linear curve to what is an exponential process. We didn't do shit for 300k years then develop for 10. We developped for 300k years, it was just extremely slow at the beginning. Every little progress made the next one faster.
the earliest modern human man found is 100,000 years ago. we also have a bunch of ancient structures laying around we cannot replicate with our technology. even with AI. the progressive/linear theory of technology has to be thrown out. there was something known and then something lost.
>we cannot replicate with our technology
homie that's debunked bs and you know it
>there was something known and then something lost.
Even in the modern age we see techniques and technologies fall into disuse and either get lost or nearly lost, and that's with the existence of writing and book printing. Imagine how easy it was for knowledge to disappear when a limited number of people are passing the traditions down orally. What happens if the 100 people who all know the ins and outs of a technique all die in a disaster? That knowledge either disappears or experiences extreme setbacks while less-skilled people have to try to build their knowledge up retroactively without the help of those dead experts.
>Even in the modern age we see techniques and technologies fall into disuse and either get lost or nearly lost
the moon landing was fake, nice try. as for the rest of deb00nk, I said nothing about the knowledge of the technique, I was pointing out that OUR technology AND our AI cannot figure it out, nor replicate it. that's with our cranes and glowie quantum computers.
0/10 effort, this is why you aren't paid more than a school teacher lol
>deb00nk
Anon, I was AGREEING with you. I AGREE that knowledge in the ancient world could have been lost because even in the modern world we lose knowledge despite our much more robust documentation methods.
I apologize, I skim when the glowie brigade start posting, I hope you understand.
it doesn't need to be "special", it just needs to exist. if you're gonna post a deb00nk at least post it in english.
actual scientists and engineers don't know how they did any of the shit, that's the problem glowtard
yeah, the "scientists and engineers" from those pseudoscience slop shows lmao
Now tell me what academic degree and experience Hanwiener has
hanwiener is a glowie as far as I'm concerning, you don't need to believe in psionics or ancient aliens to believe in advanced pre historic civilizations.
Okay, so how did they get the capstones on the pyramids?
what have abos done in the last 200 years
No we are definitely the most advanced we've ever been. It took billions of years just for the cell to evolve to its current form, then multicellular life exploded into existence and has existed for a fragment of Earth's timeline. Life slowly grows then explodes with innovation. There could have been ancient advanced civilisations but we are definitely the most advanced in history. There would be plenty of evidence in ice and sediment and in dry areas. Oil would have already been drained. Global genetic bottlenecks of species would have been detected as this past society reduced wild populations. Excavated rock and soil would be everywhere. There'd be a giant layer of human bones in the fossil record. I could go on
>we are definitely the most advanced we've ever been.
That doesn't conflict with what I said. We can be the most advanced we've ever been AND ancient humans could have been far more advanced than we think they were. If humans reached Bronze Age level technology multiple times over the last 200,000 years that would satisfy both of those criteria.
AHHH THE NASA SHILLS ARE GANGSTALKING ME AGAIN
people suddenly became le smart 10000 years ago because....they just did ok!!
Actually, there are burial practices and use of ornaments as far as 100000 years ago, both in humans and in Neanderthals, so it was not sudden.
That's just what we can find. I really do think humans rose to higher levels of technology much earlier than we think. I don't think they were sailing around the globe, but I think they were farming and building shit.
All I'm saying is those stones at late titicaca looks a bit too straight.
What's really confusing to me is that ancient egyptians apparently figured out how to make these massive pyramids, which no doubt were very complex and time consuming and tedious to construct, but then never applied the same architectural solutions and applications on any other major construction projects.
If a society can organize and construct the pyramids, then it stands to reason they would go "well, if he can do this, let's see what else we can do" and from then on they'd undertake other massive construction projects.
They did have a vast number of temples and so on, but nothing really on the order of magnitude of a pyramid. You'd think they'd create exceptionally large palaces or whatnot too using all that construction knowledge.
Anon, there was nothing greater for them than the afterlife and their pharaoh, and well... what do you think the pyramids were? [hint: it wasn't an alien power source]
>uuuuuuh it was the slaves who built it
>lots and lots of slaves
>mass graves of slaves? uuuuuuuuuh it's not there because it's just not ok
i'm sure they're getting their talking points from glowie discord lol
>Implying they cared to build mass graves for slaves.
Kek. You sure like to be contrarians.
>heh yea bro they just threw their corpses just about anywhere bro they were cool like that
???
They weren't slaves, they were paid workers. This has been known for ages
They did, though: https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-ancient-mass-graves-archaeologists-find-child-slaves-of-biblical-egypt/
>grave sites nowhere near pyramids
>despite the fact a hypothetical slave work force in the legendary egyptian desert would have killed a lot of em
hmm
>they know
ok, show us proof they know. but you can't, because none of them know lol. most pyramids around the world (non egyptian) aren't even really connected to the civilizations that were there. a good non pyramid example is tenochtitlan, the aztecs have no idea who built it
>most pyramids around the world (non egyptian) aren't even really connected to the civilizations that were there
except they are, from central America to Indonesia, wtf are you lying like that?
They build massive structures and a pyramid is not that complex
https://www.vietravel.com/en/around-the-world/10-most-impressive-ancient-egyptian-temples-v12182.aspx
>a pyramid is not that complex
ok so why haven't we built one with modern engineering methods that eclipses the ancient Egyptian pyramid
stop asking questions and start trusting the science
I'm sick of these fricking homosexuals and their dumb frick assertions, they've never fricking thought about for more than half a second. Just blind trust.
You better be pretending to be that moronic
how fricking stupid are you? he's not referring to a las vegas replica, he's talking about a genuine copy with all the astronomical techniques. I hope your supervisor fricking writes you up this is embarrassing.
Egyptians never lost the knowledge of where the cardinal points and the stars are just because making pyramids was crazy expensive
you keep making up arguments that never existed
misrepresentation
lazy attempt to break consensus
incorrect, in SA they actually just call them "mayans" despite not having a real record of ancient SA history. or a real overarching mayan civilization. this is actually a pretty interesting topic I've never really seen anyone cover.
for me, it's the Caral-supe civilization
>mayans
>SA
>no historical or cultural connection between the mayan city states and the mayans or the aztecs with the toltecs and other peoples
It's not like I had much doubt I was talking to an idiot but I didn't expect that much.
the aztecs were from the north and no, they did not have any "connection" with the other people other than slavery. this is how they took over tenochtitlan but then admitted to the spaniards they have no idea who built it. one can only imagine if the spaniards never asked, the "scientists" would have said it was mayan. additionally, when they say "mayan" they are using it like when they talk about "egyptians", there was never a continuous ethnic civilization. you can't compare them to the greeks either, because in that case we have tons of histories that have made their ways to us and their city states are incredibly unique and distinct
go ask chatGPT why we no longer make large, single use solid monoliths if you really need to know the answer you braindead redditard
>we no longer make large single use monoliths
Meanwhile humans:
>destroying acres of forestry for a few windmills that can power 1/10th of a small town for 15 years, when there's no wind drought... or its not TOO windy
this + the pyramids seem to be over kill for just being used as crypts for their leaders, even the interiors are puzzling if they were just crypts. Also weren't they built in line with particular constellations?
the fact that we havent searched everywhere on earth yet is evidence enough
>sources? evidence?
>i frickin made it all up after tripping balls in the desert
lel
he eats the wormwood
The only scientists I trust are the ones who get paid by Epstein's client list
Wikipedia has /our/guy right beside goop and david icke, kek. Surprised robert sepehr has dodged the list
"psuedoscience" now just means "doesn't support experimental gene therapy as a vaccine"
>robert sepehr
The type of quack who extrapolates archaelogy and is goes straight into genetics for his headcanon. What a shame, I really like all his mystical interpretations of myths in his YouTube channel, though.
I actually watched the episode up to the part where Joe sort of deboonks the seed deboonking (around 3 hours 11 minutes into the episode).
He points out a flaw in the seed cultivation argument in that it's possible for the 'cultivated seeds' to revert back to their feral distributions over a period of time of no human cultivation.
Meaning it's possible that:
1. ancient human civilizations cultivated seed crops
2. cataclysm came, and most of the population lost that technology, the seeds reverted back to feral distributions
3. an ancient civilization with a seed bank went around teaching other people agriculture again
>le ancient "genius" builders
>I told 200k slaves to make a pile of rocks lol