Explain how he was in the wrong.
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he should have been smarter in his execution
he made it personal
He violated the most important right of all, property rights.
The native tribe was on the land first, so under the fundamental principle of property law "first in time, first in right" it was theirs and they had no obligation to sell it. So the company had no right to dispossess them by force when they didn't want to leave their land. By his own admission, the mission to the home tree was designed to force them to leave.
He didn't even do what actual 18th and 19th century Americans did as a pretext to indian removals, where they would find a handful of chiefs who were willing to sell their land rights even if the vast majority wanted to stay, then they would buy the land rights for the entire tribal lands from them for a relatively very low price, and insist it was binding on the whole tribe, even when that was outside of the norms of the tribe's governance structure. And then anyone who refused to leave could legally be said to be in violation of treaty.
>where they would find a handful of chiefs who were willing to sell their land rights even if the vast majority wanted to stay
The RDA CAN'T do that and they did try. The RDA tried offering them everything they could, technology, medicines, wealth, etc. And the Na'vi refused everything. Eywa forbids it. And we will most likely find out in the sequels that their ancestors created Eywa for exactly a situation like this to keep them from advancing too far down paths they already know lead to unhappiness.
>The RDA CAN'T do that and they did try. The RDA tried offering them everything they could, technology, medicines, wealth, etc. And the Na'vi refused everything.
Hence why they had no right to force them off their land, so he was in the wrong.
>Eywa forbids it. And we will most likely find out in the sequels that their ancestors created Eywa for exactly a situation like this to keep them from advancing too far down paths they already know lead to unhappiness.
I didn't see 2, was Avatar secretly post-apocalypse the whole time?
My local theater didn't show the film but 3 hours of CP instead.
I left the theater immediately after the credits
>Applying Earth property law to aliens
kek?
>laws should only benefit me
israeli?
I'm the anon he was responding to, and I am israeli btw. The RDA violated axiomatic property law principles, and so were in the wrong.
>The RDA violated axiomatic property law principles
wrong, property rights do not apply as against foreign administrative agencies.
It's lawful condemnation. The cats weren't making effective use of the land. RDA would make proper use of the land. Thus, the land was condemned, and RDA was just disposing of the squatters.
>lawful condemnation
The Navi were a separate sovereign and RDA had no ownership interest, so they had no authority to control their land use.
OP moralized by saying the colonel did nothing wrong. If you're going to just devolve into a "might makes right" argument then he objectively was in the wrong, since the Navi and their planet God proved to be mightier than him.
>The Navi were a separate sovereign
well this is even worse for them, then. The RDA, being an administrative agency, derives its authority from the office of the executive, which acts with all the supreme power of the English crown when dealing with foreign entities. The RDA is thus within its right to conduct a special military operation on a belligerent foreign cell.
and the result of that mindless aggression was that the humans got needlessly BTFO
>that the humans got needlessly BTFO
the question was whether they were morally permitted to attack in the first place. That the story contorted itself to permit the catgays to win is irrelevant.
>the question was whether they were morally permitted to attack in the first place
And you can spin and be a sophist about it all you want - they were not.
>they were not. No, I can't explain why. They just were. What's that? You.. you don't believe me? Um, excuse me, what are you, some kind of heckin' nazi chudderino?
very convincing.
>they were. No, I can't explain why. They just were. What's that? You.. you don't believe me? Um, excuse me, what are you, some kind of heckin' nazi chudderino?
There is ample explanation in this thread, you dumb frick. Don't reply to me again.
>There is ample explanation in this thread
I hope you're not referring to that other anon appealing to property rights that I personally BTFO. Because that would be super embarrassing.
You "BTFOd" nobody. Stop embarrassing yourself.
>make assertion
>it's provably wrong
>"frick off, I'm not BTFO"
sure thing, buddy.
This. Furthermore, Quaritch is one of the better illustrations of “small-picture right, big-picture wrong” I’ve seen. All his gas about brotherhood and the corps rings pretty hollow considering that it’s become a glorified security force for the same megacorps that killed Earth in the first place. The RDA are basically no different than the aliens from Independence Day -
He wanted to keep all the Unobtainium for himself.
Should have ask Weyland Yutani for some xenomorph eggs.
They'd have the whole planet turned into a nightmare hellscape in a few months
They just need to wait for the eco system to have completely collapsed then mine around any alien eggs they find or just destroy them on sight.
Once everything is dead the aliens all die except for their eggs.
Xenomorphs won’t just drop dead and I doubt RDA could wait until they hit a dormancy period given quotas. You’d be trading one extermination mission for a much more difficult and dangerous one
I never understood the ecology of that planet. Everything is supposed to live in harmony or some bullshit, but all the animals look like alpha predators.
Why would evolution push for such aggresive animals if it's a peaceful place?
>all the animals look like alpha predators
Nah there were the animals that were like big herbivorous dinosaurs that theaten Jake before he gets chased by the jaguar like animal. Also the horselike animals that the Navi ride, the little flying lizards, the lemur-like animals, and the whales.
and the Ilu
Cutelu
Another thing bugging me is that the navi only have 4 limbs while all other animals have 6 limbs
Is there any explanation for that?
They are most likely not from Pandora and colonized it long in the past, giving up their advanced technology and establishing Eywa to watch over them and their offspring.
There being predatation in nature and nature being peaceful aren't mutually exclusive
He is a Navi in a human avatar. So that kinda makes him a dick
How exactly Navi sex trader isn't a thing in that universe? Literally alien cat amazons. Sheikhs and Epsteins would be stumbling over each other to get one of these in a bondage.
they can't breath earth atmosphere for more than a few minutes and also don't fit in the cryosleep pods
>they can't breath earth atmosphere
Even better, they can't run away without dying. And they have pods for avatars, no? What's the problem in that regard? Actually, skip the Navi-catching part. Prostitute the Avatars; there must be a high demand for blue pussy, for sure, even if it's vat-grown.
>Prostitute the Avatars; there must be a high demand for blue pussy, for sure, even if it's vat-grown.
it's crazy expensive but I would bet that there are custom made remote controlled frickdolls on earth, maybe not even na'vi based but humans
He's a zogbot working his ass for the profit of some space israelites that don't give a single frick about him, his family nor his race.
>merc with no values willing to kill and displace innocents for the benefit of soulless exploitative corporations
The most moronic thing Cameron did in this series is invent the fact that humans can literally be immortal if they suck out the spinal fluid of Pandaora whales. I mean how much more moronic does the "universe" need to get?
>I mean how much more moronic does the "universe" need to get
Just wait for the next movie.
After watching Way of Water I don't need to see any more.
I like how this setting looks a thousand times more interesting than the actual avatar world
this. I'd rather watch that than some overdone space jungle setting
Humans.... bad?!
People don't treat handicap people like this now, why would they be worse in the future
He was getting treated like that because he was excessively drunk and picking fights in the bar. And yeah, handicap people will get treated like that if they go looking for trouble.
>why would life in a clearly dystopian techno-future be worse for people?
Only on this fricking website, I swear
>life is worse so people are buttholes
There are plenty of places with low standards of living and perfectly decent people
>life is worse so people are buttholes
Yes. It's not a very complicated equation.
He probably liked to remind people that he was veteran a lot.
he wasnt
pocahontas 3d is derivative leftists dross
>pocahontas 3d
This "criticism," at this point, is less original than the movies themselves. It's literally meaningless.
cant be meaningless when its factual
>MASKS ON
I quoted this so much to my brother during COVID.
They have to make the human weapons so ineffective for the Na'vi to stand a chance. They can't hit anything unless they're a few feet away. Explosives just knock people about and fires are just a little hot. Aircraft have to get down to bow range to fire missiles and even then they don't do much damage.
Frick that shit just self-propelled artillery dump some napalm and futuristic agent orange
That shit was wasteful and hilariously ineffective.
All of you are dumb as bricks.
Huge, untouched jungles are simply too large a target for that kind of approach.
It looks good on camera, it hits nothing in reality.
It's almost comical how shitty the humans have to be written to give the aliens a chance
Na'vi just built different
>Vietnam vet chases porch pirates
The Gul Dukat of Abatap
How come villains in James Cameron movies almost always turn out to be the lesser of all evils depicted when you put all the emotional bullshit aside and think about it logically for 5 minutes?
he did not act or think this way in the film
It was the Director's Cut but only in the Spanish dub
>Conquistador apologetics coming from Spain
Color me surprised
Quaritch is kino but this image will always be Reddithammer tier slop
Ima say cringe on you, if he had said this to one of the Naive chiefs they would have never have recovered
It has nothing to do with reddithammer. You're the only one who mentioned it.
humanity will never reach this tech and Spain is a total shithole today
Because he has feminine girl hands and a weird neck
Conservaatives are cowards. Afraid or too lazy to think for themselves and to second guess and question orders coming from above.
he lost
he lost with a fricking massively incomprehensibly large advantage, like holy frick. fricking helictopers with miniguns and missiles against fricking spears and rocks? the frick was he smoking, gunpowder?
>only LOS gun and dumbfire rockets work in "le magic vortex"
>arrows that couldn't penetrate canopies earlier now can
>still crushes the Na'vi
>only the awakening alien-world consciousness even gives pause to the human attack
>loads of the humans still manage to escape
what a clusterfrick lol
>arrows that couldn't penetrate canopies earlier now can
Jesus fricking Christ you are moronic
Yank detected
Holy frick you’re a moron
>>only LOS gun and dumbfire rockets work in "le magic vortex"
im willing to give the suspension of belief here, its some alien world, alien anatomy, you could easily handwave a reason why heat seaking/thermal shit dont work, but its like saying they dont have miniguns, but machine guns to fight agaisnt filthy unwashed natives. its criminal how badly he handled the situation, like holy shit.
He acted within the boundaries of the situation and still crushed the Na'vi. Again, it took a force utterly outside anyone's understanding that no living character had ever witnessed to stop him.
>it took a force utterly outside anyone's understanding that no living character had ever witnessed to stop him
the actual, irl, army has an entire procedure and practices alien invasions for this exact reason. "what if we have no fricking idea what attacks us". its a thing. we do this, today, is 1957+66 years. the us military has a fricking procedure for vampires and ghosts. its primarily to test for "what the frick do you do", but its THERE. some future army doesnt do this shit? frick them.
Show me the actual, irl, army's procedure for dealing with a planetary consciousness awaking and throwing every living being at you. I'll wait.
Meanwhile this is a corporate security force.
im still looking, but heres the dod's webby for it
>https://www.aaro.mil/
there was a partially leaked procedure list for what to do, how to do, when to stop screaming, but in a nutshell its a repurposed "if you have no fricking clue whats going on, this is the steps". its just a repurposed mystery attack they spring on groups to text their medal.
Keep looking. It's irrelevant but funny.
so you know it exists, gimme something to narrow it down, i get a bit iffy googling major defense organizations of the united states.
I have nothing to contribute because such a plan doesn't exist. It's an irrelevant rabbithole but it's funny.
you homosexual, i bet you wanna stare at goats lustfully, or some shit, im not sure where im going with this shitpost
Then don’t make your moronic claim if you can’t back it up
My original point stands
I like when the giant cat men fire massive spear sized arrows into the Aliens soldiers
He was right to massacre the natives
It's a shame the film turned the humans too dumb to live
his actor is a israelite larping as white
Imagine a movie about an alien species who visits earth. They are on their last legs as a society and are about to die out, but there is some unknown to humans resource on earth that can save them. Instead of outright conquest, they approach earth in friendship and offer a trade deal of giving us their advanced technology in exchange for the right to mine for this material, that we didnt even know was there.
And then the biggest stock pile is under like a big tree somewhere and they want to mine for it, but a group of fundamentalist christians wont let them for a religious reason, essentially dooming them. So they try to desperatly negotiate until they have enough and just take it.
Thats what avatar is about
so avatar is about something so gay and lame it would get you kicked out of the gay moronic olympics for being too gay and lame
>christians bad
this hasn't been edgy since 1998
I used christians as an example of something that would trigger the liberal values of the movie the most. Im highlighting the oikophobia/zenophilia inherit in the story.
Religion bad, but ancient ooga booga mysticism is good and actually better.
yes
No, Avatar is about a self-destructive greedy civilization full of selfish c**ts starting a fight with aliens because they're sitting on a 5-minute band-aid for their shithole civilization.
>muh species salvation rests on the resources of a different fricking planet
what a joke, a group like that deserves death
edgy
COUGH COUGH
Just 5 more kilos of le unobtanium chungus... COUGH
Then we good...
shieeeeeeeeeeeeet
we wuz advanced civilizations n shit
The humanity we see on Pandora is every bit as barbaric as humanity in 5000 B.C. -if you fail to see it you're on the same level.
wow even edgier
you must be a hit at your pro-palestine protests
sometimes I forget that I am attempting a discussion with the dregs of society here
the intellectual squalor of Cinemaphile... idiots playing critics... the ultimate comedy
talking to my little niece is more interesting that the manchildren here, with your pathetic one liners and repetitive responses
>sometimes I forget that I am attempting a discussion with the dregs of society here
Given your posts you definitely fit in
It's more like if it were under the human's entire city that they have lived in for generations and will now have to move to some random middle of nowhere and start over. And also that the Christian God is provably real, talks to them and guides them daily, stores memories of their ancestors that they can access with those trees, and would be gravely harmed in the tree's destruction. And also that metal powers their God which is why it's under those trees in great concentrations. Then yeah, it'd be similar.
There are other deposits, and "earth is dying" wasn't a thing in movie 1
Based Christians not taking shit from those freeloading space spics
Biggest plothole is how Judy was able to help them escape Hell's Gate in the first place after she bailed on a mission.
Well he lost and died like a b***h so that's that
The Navi were National Socialists and he was the leader of multiculti galactohomo
humans are the only good thing about the setting
I get that this couldn’t happen because of plot but realistically speaking why has no one in the film ever brought up the fact that humanity is actually being pretty soft handed about this whole thing rather than just glassing the surface? They have the technology to fabricate an alien organism’s physiology to make it nearly indistinct from the native populace baring cosmetic differences (fingers and toes, that’s literally it) and to make machines that allow for a neural link between that organism and a human pilot. Making an orbital nuke with a decently quick half life, orbital laser, or just a virus bomb should be pretty simple. Jake’s a soldier, he knows that air superiority is king and thus should understand that orbital superiority would be even more devastating. The cost of one frickoff nuke and a military vessel with personnel there purely to mop up stragglers would be peanuts compared to the profit if they would make. Did no one think to sit everyone down and explain that? To explain that people desperate for resources can and will pool together what they have left to frick over the other guy for not sharing? That Eywa couldn’t do jackshit if they attacked off world? I mean really say they drop a bomb from the stratosphere, what can they do to stop it? Send a really big Toruk and hope it can survive being near the giant flaming object hurtling towards the ground long enough to somehow deflect it?
My only guess is because there's a lot of political bullshit around the planet since in this universe, it may be the only other planet besides earth with life they've found so far. Then again, IRL, we'd probably immediately just nuke such a planet because we're stupid fricking monkeys. Honestly, the movie leaves a lot to the imagination in terms of who's running these operations and what their motives/thoughts are about it. Chances are it'll never be divulged since that's not what James Cameron cares about + he's already tired of making these (he mentioned after 3 he'll toss the movies to someone else to direct or it'll just be the last one if no one wants more). I think he's wanting to make a new Terminator since it's actually relevant now.
tl;dr
He was a zionist boomer cuck
He destroyed other people's homes.
I've never seen Avatar.