Family Guy is a clear parody, while Invincible was directly adapting a crossover issue featuring the actual Spider-Man in a non-parody context. They don't have the license to the character and, with it not falling under parody or satire, don't have legal ground to use the character so they had to create a legally distinct stand-in.
No it isn't. Its literall The Dark Age of Comics played straight. >Kryptonians really are out to take over the Universe >Superboy, though a series of horrible tragedies, does become a true hero >In the end, he literally turns his race into the defenders of truth and justice that he had assumed his father had been before him
It's true, Kirkman is a cape fan and Invincible is just him playing with his own cape universe that has some clear inspirations from the Big Two. It's not really a parody because it's played straight, sure it might poke fun at some tropes here and there but that's really it, is still a superhero story.
in a legal context you don't just say to the court it's parody bro frick youuuu and get away with it, you have to actually pass the tests to determine if something is parody
in this case there's no fair use argument on three of the four tests: because they're selling this imagery as part of a product, because they haven't really changed much (the colors are different but we all know who it's meant to represent), and because it's non-educational, ie it is made purely as entertainment media
you go to court under those circumstances and you'll get railed; you even put yourself in a situation where you could go to court and, with that level of defense, you're not even going to get to settle out of court because they're legitimately going to take the clothes off your back along with everything else you ever owned
reminder too that Amazon is the world's third largest company and could easily have afforded to license Spider-Man for this appearance, but chose not to do so because it would make the show, with its budget OVA-tier animation style, too expensive to make
this isn't something they're doing for the fans, it's something they're churning out like an Amazon own brand vibrator that'll catch fire if it gets wet during use
You just posted the entirety of the crossover from the Invincible issue, Mark never even spoke to Peter. The exact same dialogue is used in the Marvel issue, where Mark does speak and hangs out in the 616 for a while. It's not a completely different thing.
These are the frickers who tried to erase the X-Men because they couldn't make 100% of the profits on a failing movie series. They would have NEVER agreed to let Spider-Man be in this.
man, they'll never finish adapting the entire series of invincible unless they skip a lot of arcs or manage to combine many that become conclusive within the same episode. Also they ruined the entire line of "i thought you were stronger"
>they'll never finish adapting the entire series of invincible unless they skip a lot of arcs or manage to combine many that become conclusive within the same episode
Rearrange, not combine >Also they ruined the entire line of "i thought you were stronger"
Yeah that suck
I fricking love the fifty minute episodes, only for it to have two minute recaps, ten minute ending credits, and another ten minutes with Amber, giving us a whopping 28 minutes leftover!
it disturbs me there are many universes where tifanny is being forced to transform and is being kept as a baby or somehow managed to keep her functioning as a fetus. Also the 5 year skip felt so forced just to add more drama into mark amd eve
Family Guy is a clear parody, while Invincible was directly adapting a crossover issue featuring the actual Spider-Man in a non-parody context. They don't have the license to the character and, with it not falling under parody or satire, don't have legal ground to use the character so they had to create a legally distinct stand-in.
Invincible as a whole is a parody/satire of superhero comics
It's not
Homage =/= Parody
No it isn't. Its literall The Dark Age of Comics played straight.
>Kryptonians really are out to take over the Universe
>Superboy, though a series of horrible tragedies, does become a true hero
>In the end, he literally turns his race into the defenders of truth and justice that he had assumed his father had been before him
More like
> my dad said he was from krypton but he is actually from planet Vegeta
who's freezer in this scenario?
Thaedus with the Scourge Virus
Unironically Alen later on, tho he's motivated more by pragmatism than fear
It's just the author's capeshit fanfic
people really just throw out random buzzwords that don't make sense in the context of the conversation now don't they
It's true, Kirkman is a cape fan and Invincible is just him playing with his own cape universe that has some clear inspirations from the Big Two. It's not really a parody because it's played straight, sure it might poke fun at some tropes here and there but that's really it, is still a superhero story.
No, it's shonenshit capeshit.
that's not how those words work, no
in a legal context you don't just say to the court it's parody bro frick youuuu and get away with it, you have to actually pass the tests to determine if something is parody
in this case there's no fair use argument on three of the four tests: because they're selling this imagery as part of a product, because they haven't really changed much (the colors are different but we all know who it's meant to represent), and because it's non-educational, ie it is made purely as entertainment media
you go to court under those circumstances and you'll get railed; you even put yourself in a situation where you could go to court and, with that level of defense, you're not even going to get to settle out of court because they're legitimately going to take the clothes off your back along with everything else you ever owned
reminder too that Amazon is the world's third largest company and could easily have afforded to license Spider-Man for this appearance, but chose not to do so because it would make the show, with its budget OVA-tier animation style, too expensive to make
this isn't something they're doing for the fans, it's something they're churning out like an Amazon own brand vibrator that'll catch fire if it gets wet during use
Also it's a Marvel comic they're adapting, not an issue of Invincible
No, they were adapting what happened in the Angstrom fight. The Team-Up was a completely different thing.
You just posted the entirety of the crossover from the Invincible issue, Mark never even spoke to Peter. The exact same dialogue is used in the Marvel issue, where Mark does speak and hangs out in the 616 for a while. It's not a completely different thing.
Kirkman wrote both issues
god this dialogue is trash
yep, too cheap to even send a letter asking about the possibility of maybe perhaps leasing the image rights for one appearance
Disney own both Spider-Man and Family Guy
Disney didn't own either when that episode aired
That bottom right screenshot is from a FG episode from like 2001, before Disney owned either of those properties.
fair use.
Parody falls under fair use.
They own Marvel...
Just give us the damn team up!
top isn't fair use
These are the frickers who tried to erase the X-Men because they couldn't make 100% of the profits on a failing movie series. They would have NEVER agreed to let Spider-Man be in this.
The inhumans push was unreal
I like the bootleg spidey's suit more than half the real ones tbqhdesu
https://variety.com/2024/tv/features/invincible-season-2-finale-spider-man-ezra-miller-1235960790/
>Season 2 final
Wait are you telling me the thing that they spend two fricking years making has only eight episodes? What the actual frick are they doing over there.
man, they'll never finish adapting the entire series of invincible unless they skip a lot of arcs or manage to combine many that become conclusive within the same episode. Also they ruined the entire line of "i thought you were stronger"
They're already skipping around in time and omitting material, Anon. Wouldn't someone who read the comic know that?
>they'll never finish adapting the entire series of invincible unless they skip a lot of arcs or manage to combine many that become conclusive within the same episode
Rearrange, not combine
>Also they ruined the entire line of "i thought you were stronger"
Yeah that suck
I fricking love the fifty minute episodes, only for it to have two minute recaps, ten minute ending credits, and another ten minutes with Amber, giving us a whopping 28 minutes leftover!
They're saving their one.
Apparently, everybody gets one.
More like Menxplain, am i rice!
Where do we explain here ?
Everybody gets one… Spider-Man reference.
Everybody gets one.
it disturbs me there are many universes where tifanny is being forced to transform and is being kept as a baby or somehow managed to keep her functioning as a fetus. Also the 5 year skip felt so forced just to add more drama into mark amd eve