because this thread would be so much better if it just said "Omni-Man would 'easily' beat Superman in a fight"
I'm sure it would increase the quality of the thread tenfold
>someone disagrees with your opinion >"h-help doctor the scary man i-is saying wrong things p-please medicate them immediately!"
shouldn't you normalgays be on instagram or some shit?
>help doctor the scary man is saying wrong things please medicate them immediately
Why are you saying this in a mocking manner? This is based and what everyone should say when faced with schizo rambling.
3 months ago
Anonymous
no seriously who keeps letting all these normies in? no i won't buy the funko pop no i won't take the 12 booster shots no i won't sign up for facebook and i certainly will not award you reddit gold
3 months ago
Anonymous
>letting all these normies in
Stop trying so hard to fit in. I'm reasonably confident I've been here longer than you.
Been posting since 2011.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>I'm reasonably confident I've been here longer than you. >Been posting since 2011.
>this homie don't know about the Shoeman and the Siegal
NGMI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Shuster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Siegel
DC was founded by israelites, Superman was a israeli allegory for the "chosen" people
Marvel was also founded by israelites
All american superhero comics are israeli
Supes was an allegory for immigrants and the positive effect they can have of American society. Him being an illegal alien and all.
DC was founded by israelites, Superman was a israeli allegory for the "chosen" people
Marvel was also founded by israelites
All american superhero comics are israeli
Yes.
Superman isn’t that strong. Most versions aren’t even city level.
And given 1 whenever a Superman writer is asked if he’s planet level they say no, and 2 Omniman is consistently above planet level, Omniman crushes him with ease.
Nope squared, the strongest feat of Viltrumite strenght in the entire fricking Invincible comic is three full grown viltrumites destroying a planet with the aid of a orbital cannon.
The only Superman Omni-Man could ever have a chance with is the vastly weakened to create conflict DCAU Superman.
>Superman isn’t that strong. Most versions aren’t even city level.
Do powerscalers actually read comics? What fricking versions of Superman wouldn't annihilate this gay?
Really, the only Viltrumite that might give Superman trouble is Thragg. And frankly I doubt Superman is any weak than him. Plus Superman has a bunch of other superpowers that the Viltrumites couldn't even conceive of having.
Really, Superman has fought evil Kryptonians often enough that someone who's just a Kryptonian with less powers shouldn't be THAT difficult.
I read it years ago, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't beat Lex in that mini, Lex just has a mind break moment where he starts seeing how everything is connected while he has Superman's power of sense from the serum, and Superman fricks off into the sun since it's the only place that can keep him alive after a fake sun got ate by an alien, or something
He'd probably kill Golden Age Clark. Which is kind of funny, since Golden Age Superman is the one running around threatening to pull the hearts out of war profiteers, so he's the one that Nolan would probably like.
Compared to Silver Age or Pre-Byrne Bronze Age, who he'd hate but would get absolutely clobbered by.
I mostly agree with that, but even the actual Superman regularly has his heat vision reduced to a long-range punch. They're good about letting Homelander constantly slice things in half.
what is with people creating evil rip-offs of superman then trying to promote them by saying they would win in a fight?
Why does every interaction with superman have to be some sort of fight to the death?
It just feels silly.
Some people really really really fricking hate Superman. They see him as a walking talking boy scout. I remember a quote that stuck with me about Superman being "A power fantasy for good people".
This is because the idea of someone with that much power being compassionate and helpful to people rankles their in-born cynicism and knowledge that they themselves would become brutal tyrants slaughtering anyone they don't like. Evil rages and seethes when confronted with good because it cannot comprehend it.
Which Superman?
The Superman who can pull dozens of planets on a chain without visible exertion?
The Superman who outputs billions of decibels with a single utterance?
The superman who can lift infinity?
Or DCAU Superman who’s just kind of fast and punches good? Frankly I think he still clears Omni-Man but at least there it’s a contest.
FACT: Omni-Man is a bad guy
FACT: Superman is a good guy
FACT: Superman is from a universe where "the good guy always wins" is a fundamental law of reality
FACT: Superman wins
Supes has more weaknesses to exploit but is considerably more stronger.
Viltrumites can withstand fighting on the sun but can be killed by someone equal to or stronger than a viltrumite.
So clark wins.
If he's fighting DCAU Supes, maybe. That version was explictedly nerfed so they could explain how he somehow has trouble fighting off villains he would otherwise curbstomp.
The only version of Superman he's beating is DCAU and maybe the shitty Superman comic versions they use for social commentary like the one from 'superman vs the klan' where the point is the pretentious social commentary, not showing that Superman is absurdly strong
According to someone who has nothing do with Superman’s concept, not even at his weakest. Hickman didn’t portray a single viltrumite doing something as basic as destroy a planet (or something of similar size) alone, without aid; he had Omni-Man, Mark, and Thaedus, three viltrumites to destroy Planet Viltrum with a galactic cannon to help them carve the planet to boot.
The above simply is the lower end of anything remotely close of what Superman can do in the comics, at his moderate modern strength at that, no viltrumite has the slightest chance against any Superman that isn’t portrayed in a less powerful manner, like in animations, to make him more grounded.
Really, the only Viltrumite that might give Superman trouble is Thragg. And frankly I doubt Superman is any weak than him. Plus Superman has a bunch of other superpowers that the Viltrumites couldn't even conceive of having.
Really, Superman has fought evil Kryptonians often enough that someone who's just a Kryptonian with less powers shouldn't be THAT difficult.
The only Superman Thragg would give any trouble is the DCAU Superman.
And that's also assuming he only fights them with super strength, flight, and speed, like a Viltrumite would fight another. Except Superman has all that plus heat vision, ice breath, x-ray vision, etc. There's really no scenario where a Viltrumite legitimately beats Superman, barring them getting their hands on some Kryptonite. Superman's fought enough evil Kryptonians over the years, including evil versions of himself specifically, that a person that's "Kryptonian but not as fast, strong, and has less powers" isn't really going to cut it.
I'd say they're only real advantage is numbers, but Superman has a number of good Kryptonians with him as well(and there's a decent chunk of the Justice League who could manage pretty well on top of that, especially once they learn about their sonic weakness). Although I'd imagine Thragg's reaction to Krypto could be pretty amusing.
I'd imagine something along the lines of getting pissed that his finest soldiers can't even take out some mangy mutt before Krypto almost takes a chunk out of his arm.
Viltrumites get eaten by regular space monsters and plagues, can't stand sonics, and are made of playdoh. They're big fish in their setting only because they can breed. But the whole setting is low powered.
Superman's power level varies wildly based on the story. He's either someone a guy with a sci-fi gun could plausibly kill or someone that could at any point destroy the earth by flying really fricking fast.
Omni-Man is reasonably consistently portrayed as having godlike power.
Supes might win based on his ability to get stronger. If they both end up in space Nolan would have a hard time because of our sun. But Omniman is an overall better fighter, he’s been conquering shit for centuries and has shown some crazy feats of strength. Who’s to say he won’t beat Superman before he gets a chance to flee to space.
Probably not. Superman's thing is that he rarely goes all-out to avoid being a murderer, but against Kyrptonians and anyone of that level or above, he doesn't stop until they're six feet under since they need that much just to make them plead 'uncle'.
>Saitama turns stronger against Garou because he is sad Genos "died"
One-Punch Man turned into a shameful disgrace once the Manga version became the very thing it once parodied, OPMgays have no leg to stand on anymore, can't even cope with the original Webcomic since that version will never be seen as the "main" one now.
Superman from the animated series ?
Sure, he's one of the weakest version to ever existed.
Even Radditz would beat him. Radditz who would STOMP Omniman.
Destroying the moon with a laser beam and a fistfight are not the same thing. Trying to pass Kid Goku as moon-tier just because he very nearly beat Master Roshi is ridiculous.
Piccolo destroys the moon with a generic ki blast shortly after Gohan started training, and Piccolo was weaker than Raditz at that point. The Roshi thing is another matter.
It's still the same thing. Laser blasts and actual fights aren't the same thing. Far stronger laser blasts were used against Nappa, but he barely got hurt. Unless the implication that Nappa is more durable than the moon which is a silly notion.
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Anonymous
Goku explicitly says that Frieza has a harder time trying to kill him after he becomes a Super Saiyan than an entire planet despite being in his final form, that is quite literally how it works, Nappa IS more durable than a moon.
3 months ago
Anonymous
It's called a taunt. He was making fun of Frieza, not being literal.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>It’s called [Literal headcanon]
Frieza casually blew up entire worlds while he was in his first form and he had every reason to use his full power to try and Goku, he was simply too durable for Frieza to kill.
3 months ago
Anonymous
He never hit Goku with any sort of attack that could be considered a planet buster.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>No bro, his death beam in final form are totally weaker than his deathball in first form
3 months ago
Anonymous
Yes, unironically. Nothing implies it can do anything near destroying a planet.
3 months ago
Anonymous
An infinitely strong bullet shot at a random in the leg would do less damages than a random grenade, despite the bullet being able to pierce through a planet.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Show me the panel where the Death Beam destroys a planet.
It sucks in both areas.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You might want to read what I said again about the infinitely piercing bullet and the grenade.
Goku's Super Kamehameha was also stated to be able to be moon level during his fight with Junior at the end of Ball. Said blasts Junior was able to survive.
Seriously, where does cuckman get off? His hackneyed kryptonian-saiyan space-fascists die in the sun, unlike the character he ripped off who literally becomes god in the sun.
How can? Supes had to fight more vicous monsters with power levels surpassing him. Omni? Pff, he spent his career curb stomping weaker races. There is no contest.
Yes. A creator of a character can say the character is as strong as he wants. If I made a show, I can flippantly say the MC can beat Goku's shit in and no one could argue the facts.
Problem with Dragon Ball Z feats is most of them just go by powerscaling, assumptions, or unproven claims by the characters. Cell is generally accepted at solar system level. Not because he displayed any ability to do anything close to destroying an entire solar system, but because he said he'd destroy one and that's just good enough for the fans.
>Superman is weak because he doesn't punch people into giblets/melt their heads with his laserbeams
I have not read a single Superman comic but there's a famous quote about him living in a world of cardboard. Superman is always holding back so he doesn't kill common bankrobbers with his sun benchpressing fists.
>twitter screenshot thread
because this thread would be so much better if it just said "Omni-Man would 'easily' beat Superman in a fight"
I'm sure it would increase the quality of the thread tenfold
Literally yes
meds
>someone disagrees with your opinion
>"h-help doctor the scary man i-is saying wrong things p-please medicate them immediately!"
shouldn't you normalgays be on instagram or some shit?
>help doctor the scary man is saying wrong things please medicate them immediately
Why are you saying this in a mocking manner? This is based and what everyone should say when faced with schizo rambling.
no seriously who keeps letting all these normies in? no i won't buy the funko pop no i won't take the 12 booster shots no i won't sign up for facebook and i certainly will not award you reddit gold
>letting all these normies in
Stop trying so hard to fit in. I'm reasonably confident I've been here longer than you.
Been posting since 2011.
>I'm reasonably confident I've been here longer than you.
>Been posting since 2011.
Stop trying so far to fit in.
I love ahri
>twitter troon
>loves League of Transbians
Checks out
>trans out of nowhere
Obsessed
>wojak out of nowhere
Obsessed
wojak is good actually its soijak thats the problem
Twitter is the only relevant social media site on the planet.
Just accept it. Cinemaphile's time is long over.
>BUS
Isn't that a trolley?
Yeah, but Canada (except Quebec) calls them busses.
No
This israelite desperately wants discussion on his failing adaptation
Superman was created by israelites
Can you back that up?
>this homie don't know about the Shoeman and the Siegal
NGMI
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Shuster
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Siegel
Supes was an allegory for immigrants and the positive effect they can have of American society. Him being an illegal alien and all.
DC was founded by israelites, Superman was a israeli allegory for the "chosen" people
Marvel was also founded by israelites
All american superhero comics are israeli
> Superman was a israeli allegory for the "chosen" people
Citation?
This.
We need a evil Superman (Yes we do, we need MORE) who is a Zionist. Basically Homelander but Israeli-American.
So, the Boys universe itself?
>Make a superman knockoff
>Claim he can beat Superman easily
>????
>Profit
You forgot a step:
>make him NAUGHTY
Yes.
Superman isn’t that strong. Most versions aren’t even city level.
And given 1 whenever a Superman writer is asked if he’s planet level they say no, and 2 Omniman is consistently above planet level, Omniman crushes him with ease.
Nope.
Nope squared, the strongest feat of Viltrumite strenght in the entire fricking Invincible comic is three full grown viltrumites destroying a planet with the aid of a orbital cannon.
The only Superman Omni-Man could ever have a chance with is the vastly weakened to create conflict DCAU Superman.
People sleep on DCAU Supes. Despite being nerfed he rarely outright loses.
JL Supes is a poor cardboard boy and needs lots of understanding.
>People sleep on DCAU Supes
Oh? Then please shake my hand
Read more comics
He only saw Man of Steel
>Superman isn’t that strong. Most versions aren’t even city level.
Do powerscalers actually read comics? What fricking versions of Superman wouldn't annihilate this gay?
>read comics? What fricking versions of Superman wouldn't annihilate this gay?
DCAU
DCAU Superman as weak as he is would still clobber Viltrumites. They tear like tissue paper
> Do powerscalers actually read comics?
Only Japanese ones, they’re all Mexican Dragon Ball fans.
Really, the only Viltrumite that might give Superman trouble is Thragg. And frankly I doubt Superman is any weak than him. Plus Superman has a bunch of other superpowers that the Viltrumites couldn't even conceive of having.
Really, Superman has fought evil Kryptonians often enough that someone who's just a Kryptonian with less powers shouldn't be THAT difficult.
I guess maybe All Star Superman where he's dying of space cancer
You should read All Star Superman again, or at all
Whatever is applicable
I read it years ago, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't beat Lex in that mini, Lex just has a mind break moment where he starts seeing how everything is connected while he has Superman's power of sense from the serum, and Superman fricks off into the sun since it's the only place that can keep him alive after a fake sun got ate by an alien, or something
None of what you said has anything to do with that Superman being weak, or is even accurate
You should read All Star Superman again
You should read his messages again.
He's clearly talking about the very end of the comics, when All Star Supes is weakened.
You mean the very end where he's becoming so powerful he's converting to pure energy, is that what you mean
I mean the part where Luthor brutally stomps him
He'd probably kill Golden Age Clark. Which is kind of funny, since Golden Age Superman is the one running around threatening to pull the hearts out of war profiteers, so he's the one that Nolan would probably like.
Compared to Silver Age or Pre-Byrne Bronze Age, who he'd hate but would get absolutely clobbered by.
Mark can’t even beat kid Gohan, the frick are Viltrumites supposed to do to DIALSGOUPTOELEVENman?
Nappa stomps.
Maybe leaping a building Superman. But no.
Robert Kirkman is an idiot.
>my OC donut steel is better than the character I copied
I find this funny because the creator of the other most popular "evil superman" (Ennis) would say his OC would get clowned on by Superman.
tbh Homelander might be one of the most powerful beings in The Boys, but he wouldn't last two seconds in the DC universe
Homelander is probably the weakest flying brick/superman expy I've ever seen. He is the epitome of "big fish, small pond".
I mostly agree with that, but even the actual Superman regularly has his heat vision reduced to a long-range punch. They're good about letting Homelander constantly slice things in half.
Brandon Breyer from Brightburn
Ennis is probably the most based "evil Superman" creators.
I hate his work and opinions but I imagine he's a nice guy in real life.
No he's not. He's just a try hard edgelord that got lucky when people thought his evil superman was fresh.
That's because Superman is one of the only capes he respects
Even if you look at the Boys comic, Homelander was essentially mindbroken into becoming what he was
even as a fan of Invincible, Robert Kirkman is the kind of guy who will say literally anything if he thinks it'll benefit him
Very israeli behavior honestly
>OP and most of the people in this thread not realizing Kirkman said that just to promote Invincible.
Ah, good old indie insecurity.
what is with people creating evil rip-offs of superman then trying to promote them by saying they would win in a fight?
Why does every interaction with superman have to be some sort of fight to the death?
It just feels silly.
Some people really really really fricking hate Superman. They see him as a walking talking boy scout. I remember a quote that stuck with me about Superman being "A power fantasy for good people".
This is because the idea of someone with that much power being compassionate and helpful to people rankles their in-born cynicism and knowledge that they themselves would become brutal tyrants slaughtering anyone they don't like. Evil rages and seethes when confronted with good because it cannot comprehend it.
Immoral and immature people can not comprehend Superman's point.
Lol homie couldn't even stop a fricking plane
Which Superman?
The Superman who can pull dozens of planets on a chain without visible exertion?
The Superman who outputs billions of decibels with a single utterance?
The superman who can lift infinity?
Or DCAU Superman who’s just kind of fast and punches good? Frankly I think he still clears Omni-Man but at least there it’s a contest.
imagine paying for Twitter
imagine believing the opinions of someone who pays for Twitter are worth sharing
Twitter pays for itself and more because you can monetize your tweets now.
even worse, then you know for sure the opinions expressed are not genuine because they're just trying to farm views
Fictional characters.
If a writer says he wins he wins.
I can see it. Omni Man is willing to go full bore and Superman pulls his punches.
FACT: Omni-Man is a bad guy
FACT: Superman is a good guy
FACT: Superman is from a universe where "the good guy always wins" is a fundamental law of reality
FACT: Superman wins
Supes has more weaknesses to exploit but is considerably more stronger.
Viltrumites can withstand fighting on the sun but can be killed by someone equal to or stronger than a viltrumite.
So clark wins.
Superman would basically turn Omni-Man into a smear if he wanted to
Doesn't look like he's winning right now.
Nope
Just gonna leave this here https://youtu.be/6zOPvWrYMR0?t=481 because it was a really good video full of "FRICK YEAR"
I genuinely don't think Homelander could hurt the Hulk. I don't think Homelander could even give any iteration of Hyperion a hard time.
And I'm not going to watch to find out but why does Lex Luthor have the Lament Configuration?
If he's fighting DCAU Supes, maybe. That version was explictedly nerfed so they could explain how he somehow has trouble fighting off villains he would otherwise curbstomp.
Mainline Supe, no way.
The only version of Superman he's beating is DCAU and maybe the shitty Superman comic versions they use for social commentary like the one from 'superman vs the klan' where the point is the pretentious social commentary, not showing that Superman is absurdly strong
Dract, Robet Kirkman is wrong.
No he didn't, he said it would be a close fight but that Omni-man would win because he doesn't hold back.
world of cardboard etc
They have the same powers according to Kirkman.
>They have the same powers
Woah when did Omniman get x-ray vision, heat vision, freezing breath, etcetera etcetera?
According to someone who has nothing do with Superman’s concept, not even at his weakest. Hickman didn’t portray a single viltrumite doing something as basic as destroy a planet (or something of similar size) alone, without aid; he had Omni-Man, Mark, and Thaedus, three viltrumites to destroy Planet Viltrum with a galactic cannon to help them carve the planet to boot.
The above simply is the lower end of anything remotely close of what Superman can do in the comics, at his moderate modern strength at that, no viltrumite has the slightest chance against any Superman that isn’t portrayed in a less powerful manner, like in animations, to make him more grounded.
The only Superman Thragg would give any trouble is the DCAU Superman.
And that's also assuming he only fights them with super strength, flight, and speed, like a Viltrumite would fight another. Except Superman has all that plus heat vision, ice breath, x-ray vision, etc. There's really no scenario where a Viltrumite legitimately beats Superman, barring them getting their hands on some Kryptonite. Superman's fought enough evil Kryptonians over the years, including evil versions of himself specifically, that a person that's "Kryptonian but not as fast, strong, and has less powers" isn't really going to cut it.
I'd say they're only real advantage is numbers, but Superman has a number of good Kryptonians with him as well(and there's a decent chunk of the Justice League who could manage pretty well on top of that, especially once they learn about their sonic weakness). Although I'd imagine Thragg's reaction to Krypto could be pretty amusing.
Do tell me his reaction.
I'd imagine something along the lines of getting pissed that his finest soldiers can't even take out some mangy mutt before Krypto almost takes a chunk out of his arm.
Depends on the version; DCAU Superman is one of the weaker ones. The entire Viltrumite race wouldn't be a speed bump for Silver Age Superman.
G-Gokubros, It's over... Our hero is weaker than Omniman...
I have no idea about Invincible, but I'd say flavor wise, it would be more interesting if Omni-Man could easily beat Superman.
Viltrumites get eaten by regular space monsters and plagues, can't stand sonics, and are made of playdoh. They're big fish in their setting only because they can breed. But the whole setting is low powered.
>flavor wise it would be more interesting if this character I know nothing about, from a series I haven't read, could easily beat Superman
what does this even mean
Why would you include a Shitter screencap of secondhand quote from an article instead of just posting the relevant quote from the article and link it?
Superman's power level varies wildly based on the story. He's either someone a guy with a sci-fi gun could plausibly kill or someone that could at any point destroy the earth by flying really fricking fast.
Omni-Man is reasonably consistently portrayed as having godlike power.
>Kirkman says
Power scaling is literally two guys shouting "my guy is more powerful-er than yours!" back and forth. It holds nothing of value.
unless omniman is made with kryptonite, yes.
Supes might win based on his ability to get stronger. If they both end up in space Nolan would have a hard time because of our sun. But Omniman is an overall better fighter, he’s been conquering shit for centuries and has shown some crazy feats of strength. Who’s to say he won’t beat Superman before he gets a chance to flee to space.
Probably not. Superman's thing is that he rarely goes all-out to avoid being a murderer, but against Kyrptonians and anyone of that level or above, he doesn't stop until they're six feet under since they need that much just to make them plead 'uncle'.
one punch man makes fun of losers like you
>Saitama turns stronger against Garou because he is sad Genos "died"
One-Punch Man turned into a shameful disgrace once the Manga version became the very thing it once parodied, OPMgays have no leg to stand on anymore, can't even cope with the original Webcomic since that version will never be seen as the "main" one now.
OPM has no leg to laugh at anyone after the manga became the most basic shounenshit after it stopped following the webcomic 1:1 like it used to.
you guys know he always says stuff like this to frick with morons like you, right? and you fall for it every time.
Superman from the animated series ?
Sure, he's one of the weakest version to ever existed.
Even Radditz would beat him. Radditz who would STOMP Omniman.
>Radditz who would STOMP Omniman.
No he wont.
Yes, he would.
>Radditz would STOMP Omniman
I see no lie here.
Nothing implies Raditz is nearly that strong.
Every relevant character in DBZ is moon level at minimum, Omni-Man is not that strong unless you count the black hole feat from the animated series.
Destroying the moon with a laser beam and a fistfight are not the same thing. Trying to pass Kid Goku as moon-tier just because he very nearly beat Master Roshi is ridiculous.
Piccolo destroys the moon with a generic ki blast shortly after Gohan started training, and Piccolo was weaker than Raditz at that point. The Roshi thing is another matter.
It's still the same thing. Laser blasts and actual fights aren't the same thing. Far stronger laser blasts were used against Nappa, but he barely got hurt. Unless the implication that Nappa is more durable than the moon which is a silly notion.
Goku explicitly says that Frieza has a harder time trying to kill him after he becomes a Super Saiyan than an entire planet despite being in his final form, that is quite literally how it works, Nappa IS more durable than a moon.
It's called a taunt. He was making fun of Frieza, not being literal.
>It’s called [Literal headcanon]
Frieza casually blew up entire worlds while he was in his first form and he had every reason to use his full power to try and Goku, he was simply too durable for Frieza to kill.
He never hit Goku with any sort of attack that could be considered a planet buster.
>No bro, his death beam in final form are totally weaker than his deathball in first form
Yes, unironically. Nothing implies it can do anything near destroying a planet.
An infinitely strong bullet shot at a random in the leg would do less damages than a random grenade, despite the bullet being able to pierce through a planet.
Show me the panel where the Death Beam destroys a planet.
It sucks in both areas.
You might want to read what I said again about the infinitely piercing bullet and the grenade.
Goku's Super Kamehameha was also stated to be able to be moon level during his fight with Junior at the end of Ball. Said blasts Junior was able to survive.
Beams and fistfights aren't the same thing.
Getting hit by a beam that can destroy a moon and then surviving it means you can are at that level anon.
Omni-man is just a discount Superman.
Who cares, both of them would lose a 1v2 against him
>0-3
Thragg died fighting in the Sun. I doubt Nolan would fare better.
Seriously, where does cuckman get off? His hackneyed kryptonian-saiyan space-fascists die in the sun, unlike the character he ripped off who literally becomes god in the sun.
Bragging about your characters being better than Superman when you're the guy who wrote The Walking Mid is wild.
How can? Supes had to fight more vicous monsters with power levels surpassing him. Omni? Pff, he spent his career curb stomping weaker races. There is no contest.
Yes. A creator of a character can say the character is as strong as he wants. If I made a show, I can flippantly say the MC can beat Goku's shit in and no one could argue the facts.
Chowder can beat every character listed in this thread.
Problem with Dragon Ball Z feats is most of them just go by powerscaling, assumptions, or unproven claims by the characters. Cell is generally accepted at solar system level. Not because he displayed any ability to do anything close to destroying an entire solar system, but because he said he'd destroy one and that's just good enough for the fans.
Better than in comics, were Black Panther was able to subdue Silver Surfer with a full nelson.
>Superman is weak because he doesn't punch people into giblets/melt their heads with his laserbeams
I have not read a single Superman comic but there's a famous quote about him living in a world of cardboard. Superman is always holding back so he doesn't kill common bankrobbers with his sun benchpressing fists.