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So his mom wasn't dead? Or was that a dream sequence?
he was schizophrenic. he was being fed placebos until he got hit, then got some actual meds until his mother called, then was completely untreated the rest of the movie.
Her mother was behind everything, she was a powerful industrialist
very schizophrenic experience this film.
anyway I like to think that he wasn't actually schizophrenic, this was just some nightmare alternate world entirely created by his c**t of a mother. notice that literally everyone in the film, including beau, including all the psychos from off the street, and the family he meets, are dosed up to the eyeballs on her companies pharmaceutical products?
>notice that literally everyone in the film [...] is dosed up to the eyeballs on her companies pharmaceutical products?
no. i didn't notice that. what indicated that to you?
m8 watch the movie again. there's advertising for her pills everywhere, and when he gets home you can see him looking through her companies history and she was using him as a guinea pig for her psych meds since he was a kid.
Okay. That isn't an indication everyone else in the movie was also on her drugs. or even that beau's drugs weren't placebo.
Not him but dude movies can be magic makes more sense he's just there to suffer and that's that
you can safely draw draw the conclusion that either her pharmaceuticals have had a far reaching and pervasive effect on every aspect of life in this hellscape, or at the very least that Beau believes that it's true.
the stability and sanity of everything immediately after the accident, then the slow descent back into madness after the angry phone call between amy ryan's character and (presumably) his mother, was an indication he's an untreated schizophrenic, seeing a doctor controlled by his mother, being fed placebos, then he got actual meds after the accident, until his mother told his caretakers to stop.
regardless of whether it's all in beau's imagination or not, my theory is solid. this is a bottle of drinking water. IT'S LITERALLY IN THE WATER
>its all in his imagination
didn't say that.
also read the label
>Ingredients: Pure American tapwater (Calcium chloride, Lead, Asbestos, Potassium Silicate, Sodium Benzoate, Xanthan Gum, White Phosphorus, Potassium Bicarbonate, Ozone, Artificial Water Colour, Artificial Water Flavour, Monosodium Glutamate, Octadecylamine, Sodium Nitrate, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Lactylic Esters, Acrylonitrile Copolymers, Carbon Monocarbide, Ferrous Ascorbate, Polyoxyethylene, Lecithin)
Its a great joke, but none of that is psychoactive.
and yes it took me 20 minutes to figure out all that shit from your shitty screenshot.
You took that long to look at the ingredients and failed to see the mother's company logo on the bottled water.
Or I just don't agree that its significant, because my read (the correct one) is he's an untreated schizophrenic until the accident. Since you don't understand anything about schizophrenia, you think this means "everything is imagined." The reality is schizophrenia exaggerates everything based upon a person's fears.
you don't think any of this is significant? so what exactly do you think is taking place in the film?
>beau is an untreated schizophrenic
>BUT LOOK AT ALL THESE IMAGES FROM AFTER HE'S BEEN COMPLETELY OFF MEDS FOR DAYS
It's okay, not everyone is equipped to pay attention to details.
You're confusing details for meaning. You're looking at surface level. The surface level is schizophrenia.
actually I have schizophrenia and I agree it's a great representation of it. but if the whole film is just "beau is schizophrenic lmao" then what is happeneing in the film? he doesn't get stabbed, run over, a girl doesnt drink half a gallon of paint in front of him? he doesn't get adopted by a family who keep a war vet in their backyard, sedated with a dozen different medications? he doesn't meet his old crush who promptly dies on top of him while his mother watches?
you can't seperate what is happening in the film from beau's delusions. it's impossible.
I'm saying the only time the events of the movie are completely real is immediately after the accident, where he's getting real drugs for his real condition.
Everything else is muddled, hard, on purpose, as a joke, because the movie is a comedy. To figure out what's actually happening, outside of the schizophrenia, you have to look at the things that can't be imagined. The cleanest example of this is the trial sequence on the boat, where the engine is revving hard the entire time, but of course it doesn't explode, the boat flips because he hit something because he was lost in his fantasy of being on trial.
nothing in the movie is ever real. you're trying way too hard to act like it makes any sense, regardless of whether he's medicated or not. literally everything that happens is completely insane.
... No, its pretty much as sane as it ever gets between waking up after the accident and his mother calling to demand they take him off the actual meds they're giving him. Then its slowly descends back into (near) total break from reality.
I'm also directly stating, hard, that most of the movie is intentionally structured to make it impossible to figure out what's actually happening and what is schizophrenia. Best example, him waking up from his fantasy version of the play when he realizes he can't have children if he never had sex.
who the frick takes a random, naked stranger full of holes home and puts them in their daughters bed after hitting them with their car? how did they know what meds to give him?
the normal thing would be him waking up in a hospital. and not leaving.
Because they were actually employed by his mother.
exactly. which brings us full circle to the idea that everything that happens is actually controlled by his mother.
nope, that's you confusing details for meaning again. His mother doesn't actually have anything to do with the trial sequence at the end and had no way of knowing he'd be hit by a car. she doesn't have control for a stint after the accident either.
whatever dude. just ignore everything that doesn't fit your extremely flawed narrative.
Except I'm not ignoring anything. The idea his mother is all powerful is clearly the schizophrenia.
ok so run us through the events of the film, non-schizo version, if you think you can really do that.
>I'm also directly stating, hard, that most of the movie is intentionally structured to make it impossible to figure out what's actually happening and what is schizophrenia.
>To figure out what's actually happening, outside of the schizophrenia, you have to look at the things that can't be imagined.
I am with this anon that it’s intentionally misleading and confusing
The trial is laid out like an argument in someone’s mind because his voice of defense is so small and it wouldn’t even make sense to have one there if she’s puppeteering everything
NTA but him being schizophrenic kind of defeats the purpose of his mom being behind everything (which she clearly is) I'm pretty sure everything in the movie is meant to be played straight/taken at face value, except for the dream sequences and the ending trial.
So you really think a squatter was hiding on his ceiling of his bathroom to escape a brown recluse?
I don't think he was hiding from the spider, he's just acting like a stereotypical paranoid schizophrenic homeless guy. I think Beau's living situation and the city he lives in are meant to be taken literally, but it's a satire on how he's a sheltered momma's boy. That's why the streets are literally filled with serial killers and insane homeless criminals.
>a typical paranoid schizophrenic homeless guy can magic himself onto the ceiling
... or you just accept that some stuff was real and some stuff wasn't.
>magic himself onto the ceiling
I'm not going to change your mind but there's nothing physically impossible about what he was doing. Do you have this same take in every movie where something that suspends your disbelief happens?
>there's nothing physically impossible about what he was doing.
ignoring that it was drywall, getting up there without a lot of help would also be impossible.
I think we just have a fundamental disagree on this. Movie logic by itself never gives me an indication that the protagonist is insane/schizophrenic/what have you.
so the fact he's seeing a shrink that's prescribing drugs with bullshit names didn't tell you anything?
The therapist is a plot device, dude. You are looking way too deep into things that go against your interpretation of the film's events. He's prescribing Beau fictional drugs because the plot needs Beau to leave his house. Of course there's no drug IRL that kills you if you don't take water with it.
so he's seeing a shrink (paid for by his mother) that's giving him bullshit drugs and intentionally fricking with his paranoia. this, to you, does not indicate he is mentally ill.
Do you not know what therapists do? He's seeing a therapist because he's an anxiety ridden loser with mommy issues. His therapist is employed by his mother because his mother is a crazy b***h who needs to know what her son thinks of her. Beau is paranoid and anxious because he's a momma's boy loser, how do you not understand this?
So, we're near the same page. Factor in he is also schizophrenic and his mother rejects that diagnosis, insisting he be prescribed placebo. There's tons of obviously unreal imagery everywhere in the movie, but you think its all literal?
>you think its all literal?
If you can't even remember that I said multiple sequences in the film aren't real, I don't think you can remember what actually happens in the movie. I suggest you go rewatch it and get back to me.
We just talked about a sequence that was physically impossible, dude hiding above his bathtub.
I'll meet you halfway, I think at certain points of the film he's suffering psychosis. He's not schizophrenic and the guy above his bathtub was real.
do you even know what paranoid schizophrenia is?
To get up there the dude would've needed two ladders and help. To stay up there the materials would need to be all stone, not drywall apartment.
not to mention, his own psychosis isn't even consistent. Like how the "help-me-help-me-help-me" guy not being "the ignored beggar" in the trial, instead its the tattooed dude. And feel free to load up your copy of the video to prove me wrong, but wasn't "help-me-help-me" the guy above the bathtub?
the daughter
note the "market penetration" she's everywhere.
and. ding! that's beau, in an advertisement for some adhd drug.
and finally, beau's apartment.
note the text on the left.
next time, pay attention.
hang on, forgot this one. several of her products.
Literally me (I want to frick Parker Posey to death)
how can you pronounce this name? Boo,bay,boay?
bee-uh
bow
Bow. Like boat without the T. Maybe don’t be a foreign Black person.
My ex gf jerked me off in the movie theater during this movie since we were the only ones there. I miss her huge hippie bawd breasts.
Why'd this end?
my wiener was way too small to please her 🙁
Oh and I forgot to mention I’m Asian
I was expecting so much more. The first part is great but that's it.
It's a great example of how a giving a director/writer/ a "blank check" to do their ideal movie doesn't always mean a good product. This flick was repetitive as hell especially since it was like 3-4 movies combined in a singular runtime. Ari Aster really needed an editor to reel him in.
>especially since it was 3-4 movies combined
Anon has never seen an epic film in his life. This movie was a modern epic
>It's like The Odyssey but like... really neurotic and schizophrenic (aka israeli)
Whoa
I fail to see the problem here
In typical israeli fashion, it's taking something noble and vulgarizing it
>movies
>nobility
Remove your face from your butthole
I'm talking about the classic Epic formula, dumdum. It's taking the formula - which is about the individual's journey from ignorance to wisdom, weakness to strength - and turning it into some mopey, neurotic nonsense about mental illness, pharmaceuticals and mommy issues that never really get resolved.
It's an intrinsically israeli film.
Too many films coming out this year with elderly losers, makes me self conscious.
Giant penis monster
I better not be getting baited into watching a huge pile of shit
It’s a good movie and despite what everyone says it isn’t a quintessentially israelite experience. The movie is basically what would happen if all the things your mind jumps to happening whenever you’re feeling anxious happened
the runtime is gay
Post the webm of the lg with the big tushy
the actor is like 30
she's 20.
>beauis very afraid
>all those reviews that praised the movie for capturing the "quintessentially israeli experience" of being psychologically tortured by your mother
What exactly is going on with them?
predisposition for schizophrenia and psychotic israeli mothers.
Funny coincidence that israelites only considers others israelites if their mother is israeli, not their father.
Not so much a conicidence as wanting to bang shiksas
Parker Posey was so hot in this wish she had more screen time
I was painfully hard in the theater man.
>think its joaquin phoenix in "deage" makeup and 14 year old girl standing on a box
>its actually a 15 year old boy and a 20 year old actor
so confusing
Three hours of my life wasted on unfunny jokes and nonsensical, needlessly long plot. You could tell he had a narcissistic mother in the first five minutes. That's all the movie is about. It didn't even deliver on the heavy incestuous undertones. At least the love interest's actresses were hot. Best ass I've seen a little girl yet
delightful
Very arrogant film. Many good parts but twice as many lingering shots of uninteresting composition for 10 seconds too long and cringe comedy that doesn’t quite hit the mark. Ari needs to make an action, genre or maybe a sincere drama picture after this just to dislodge himself from his own butthole.
that would be nice. doubt it though.
Was anybody else reminded of Possession while watching this?
why did Aster call Beau a loser?
Transphobic movie
Frick you, you fricking chud. I blocked this scene out of my memory
>In Aster’s words, Beau is “a loser,” and, in many ways, Beau gets what’s cosmically coming to him. - ... - Nevertheless, relentless, schadenfreude-driven humor makes for a wickedly entertaining viewing experience.
they laugh and cheer at our suffering
let this be a warning
Its an ok representation of mental illness, how you can easily miss hear and see things, think situations are nothing like what they really are. The mother using him as a posterboy and him turning out an utter failure also pissed her off lmao. Its way too long, easily a third of the film could be cut.
looks like that mike guy from RLM