Farming is not a joke. Rich people should not be allowed to make a mockery of this ancient and honorable craft
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Farming is not a joke. Rich people should not be allowed to make a mockery of this ancient and honorable craft
I liked the show. He raised awareness of how the govt. fricks over farmers with dumb regulations
Nah he mostly complained about the small town he tried to invade not allowing him to build wherever he wanted and this ruin it with tourism
Farmers are largely welfare queens that survive off of subsidies
Because local food production is a major element of a country's sovereignty.
Would you like to pay 12 times as much for your food instead?
Muh supply muh demand
it doesn't matter anymore.
corporats price gouge regardless of the supply.
I can only speak for the us but most of our produce is imported anyway, so regular non corporate farms are just selling 5 dollar tomatoes at farmers markets and getting gibs from the government.
Wrong and stupid. The US is by far the largest exporter of food. It's more than double the next closest country. California alone has more produce production than most of the top countries combined.
You can import food and also export what you grow moron.
I jonestly do not get why UK is 3rd.
I am a bong and we have nothing or very little that is unique that cannot be grown elsewhere, as well as we are a small natiion in size so cant create massive amount of food like the USA can.
I genuinely do not get it.
There is obviously the whole white people are decent at everything, I mean farming in africa is probably poor quality in comparison.
Maybe meat exporters? Bongs used to fish a lot before you started to run out.
I did check and meat, beef was a massive export, dairy too.
Though UK was 11th on the list so that image above is out of date I guess.
>longest navigable interior waterways
What is that anon?
My geography is not that good.
UK has the canal system of course but food is gonna all be on lorries, the canal system is more of an outdated system and barely used for anything but a pasttime hobby now.
Frick off you moron. Why would france not have more exports than UK, or spain, larger, more unique produce...
UK is small, an island and doesnt really have any unique produce minus things like a certain breed of apple.
This is probably a large part of it, expensive goods. British beef, lots of fishing waters, cadbury chocolate, unique scotish whiskey etc.
>What is that anon?
>My geography is not that good.
Mississippi river and its tributaries, particularly the Ohio River. But also the Great Lakes. US has an absurd amount of good rivers and lakes for cheap transportation of goods.
>Mississippi river
ahh I see
>The river either borders or passes through the states of Minnesota, Wisconsin, Iowa, Illinois, Missouri, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Louisiana.[18][19]
Isn't minnesota and iowa massive farming states. There is a name for it in USA the X belt or something like that where there is a few states together that are all massive farming areas.
UK doesn't really have anything like that, sure we have rivers but not that extend through the country and as I said the canal system is redundant and cant really be used for massive freights, but its an island so food being in lorries make it to ports into container on freight ships pretty easy
Africa despite having lots of land for farming lacks infrastructure and navigable waterways to make food production cheap. African nations depend largely on food imports from other nations. America is essentially the perfect food production nation due to geography. It has the longest navigable interior waterways in the world directly next to some of the largest flat plains for farmlands.
>it's uhhhhh... because there's no navigable waterways and uhhhh... because you can't domesticate zebras (because you just can't okay)
we all know the real reason, mr diamond
Mr shekelberg over there hasn’t even heard of the Nile lmao
And East Africa is a beautiful oasis with lovely climate, beaches and lovely big booties black queens while west Africa is a fricked up desert filled with goblins.
You're actually a moron. The Nile isn't not navigable over most of its length. It has many waterfalls. Only the last small bit is navigable by boats.
Rhodesia was known as the bread basket of Africa. When the whites got kicked out it turned into a slum that can't feed it's own people.
There still probably is enough fertile land in Rhodesia to feed all of Africa, let alone itself
but man they just can't figure it out, huh
Every piece of field in the north has fricking thousands of sheep on it, maybe that's why
you are fricking moronic
Fish, whiskey, gin, chocolate, cheese and wine are all huge exports.
Fellow UK anon here, I'm leaving this shithole soon. We never recovered after WW2. Sure we have had some brief moments of greatness since then, but our relevance is gone. We are done as a country. We are of the past. So goodbye and so long.
>We never recovered after WW2
Turns out if you're no longer being bombed on q daily basis and the Americans shower money on you to rebuild, it can give the illusion that the economy is doing great.
Stuff like that is not really meaningful. It's the calories that matter. So wheat and other grains is what's important.
The tomato was just an example
Yeah and guess what, those countries you import from subsidise their food as well.
But I guess it would be smart politics to be the only nation that doesn't subsidise food production, so your entire local farming industry collapses and you become completely dependant on food imports to survive.
Yeah that would be really smart lmao.
globo homosexual nonsense
the usa was doing fine when it came to food production before modern shipping and the globo homosexual economy, americans only bought american produce and farmers actually made a good living, farmers didn't need welfare bux.
We haven't subsidised farming here in NZ since the 80's and it's still the backbone of our economy. Australia has frick all subsidies either. Subsidies only encourage wonky unprofitable land development
Instead we are paying 12x as much for housing because the subsidized farmers hoard all the land.
>we subsidize the foundation of civilization
WHAT?!
If farming is so important why is it subsidized? shouldn't it be profitable enough on it's own.
The subsidies are the keep food prices at the shelf down you fricking morons.
If farms started raising the price of food to compensate for lost subsidies then what, people are going to boycott eating?
Fricking spastics.
How the frick do you think the government affords food subsidies?
Governments want to keep the cost of staple foods cheap and consistent, and depending on the location to keep agriculture a feasible enterprise to ensure self sufficiency. We here can't compete with Ukraine or the US midwest in terms of farmland productivity but not being reliant on foreign food production is a good thing
Maybe if farmers didn't have to pay millions a year in taxes and bureaucracy navigation they could afford to lower their prices.
American farmers don't really transport good through the rivers anymore, it's all overland trucks and trains. The Mississippi's main modern contribution is irrigation, the land around the Mississippi is some of the most fertile in the world.
3rd world countries employ a billion farmers. They then export it for pennies because pennies is gold to them. Then suddenly a war breaks out, you have no farmers of your own, and your nation dies of stupid when shipments stop
Imagine actually complaining about this. Bankers get free government money for their shitty business decisions, tons of tax money is sent overseas to shit like Israel and Ukraine, tons of tax money is embezzled for politicians' degenerate scat parties. Millions of Black folk and obese trailer park gays are buying twinkies and KFC on welfare. And you're complaining about farmers' subsidies to keep the price of your food low. Kys Black person twat.
well I would have complained about those things if that was what this thread was about you down syndrome homosexual
this is why food is cheap you fricking moron
>food is cheap
disagree
but I can see how you don't know because mommy is doing the grocery shopping
it's cheaper than it otherwise would, homosexual
yeah you have single source to back that up moron?
thats because we need the food bro
>Not being dependent on other countries for food.....is le bad
Why are Libshits like this?
America could halve it's food production and still have enough leftover to feed itself.
yes, and thats a good thing
>strategic assets
why did he have his pants undone in the tunnel bros
what was he doing
farmers are most needed workers. ever. without them civilization could not exist. without warriors and vanksters qorld would be better place.
True but he might have been talking about the UK more specifically. Farms here produce low quality, extremely expensive food that no other country really buys and has no advantage over imported products so customers in the UK have no reason to buy it either. It's all subsidized by the government and if all farms in the UK were to disappear it would probably be a benefit for the economy (even with the obvious effect of being dependent on other countries, which the UK already is)
there are no subsidies post leaving the eu and the common agricultural policy and the uk has some of the cheapest food prices relative to income on earth despite a well above average regulatory standard.
i shit on this island constantly but in this case you're completely wrong.
I mean so is the army. Would you prefer to not have one of those?
false equivalency
Why?
Hardly, eat lead.
why are you so passionate about farming are you John Monsanto's son
And import millions of illegals to be cheap labor
>a stable food supply is………. LE BAD!!!!!1
Farm cucks seething from this one
kys rural morons
I know this is a weird concept because of how easy modern life is, but without Farmers you'd have no food and without food you would die.
How the frick are people so detached from the food they eat they actively despise farmers, the people growing and raising the food they eat which keeps them alive?
well did that anon even say that farmers are bad or that farmers should die or whatever? it seems like he just stated a simple fact and now ya seethe
Subsidies are only the tip of the iceberg in terms of what farmers in the developed world get from the government.
Also lLOLOLLOLLO<>OOLOL at the rurals and conservatives triggered by anon stating a well-known fact.
Agreed. Respect the sneedposter
stfu, nerd
Agricultural subsidy is like having an army. If everyone else has one, do you want to be the only one who doesn't?
>CLARKSOOOOOOOON
Every King needs his crown. Also you dropped this on the way into the plane.
I live in Chipping Norton and Jezza needs to go. He blew up his own bloody house just for laughs and has ruined our village by bringing it to the attention of knobs and bellends from London. So sick of having to deal with these bloody tourists. It's a disgrace!
Who the frick is Jezza?
>t. homosexual municipal councillor
>fricking with the council
I like how paints himself as some sort of victim, while he antagonises the council on purpose because he needs it for the show. it would have been easy for him to schmooze up to councillors, some donations to their re-election etc. he knows how it works, he is not stupid.
He wants to be free and happy and people that are jealous of him want to punish him in any way they can. He doesn't paint himself in any way other than someone who owns land and wants to enjoy it. Frick you and the council that are so fricking miserable they have to try and bring other people down
oh an idealist. maybe go to the sahara or somewhere you can be really free. doesn't work like that in any society. never has, never did and never will
Give me a break, councils all over the country are stuffed full of NIMBY c**ts that hate growth.
then you have to work with that
politics is the same everywhere.
exactly. because those shitters are the one with power
The councilors run unopposed because 99% of the population doesn't follow local politics so the people who are involved are those with really strong views on issues like limiting growth. You don't know shit about what you're talking about.
>gotta kowtow to some local shitters just so they'd do their job
lmao
found the russian wienersucker
Ukraine is simply not my fricking problem, sorry
>post yfw "Gerald has cancer"
>our ukrainian bee man
>oh lots of dead bees here
>yes its like donbas
DROPPED
let them have the joke, anon, it's the only thing they've got left
>i wake up
>there is another psyop
>i wake up
>there is another psyop
Its all so tiresome.
Total Donetsk Children Death
the dam he repaired in e3 is that the one he built in s1?
Not sure, seems like it's on a different part of the farm.
pretty sure it's the same one since it's near the pond he built and that was the purpose of the dam
holy shit thats a lot of wood for 3(?) years
Small farming for production is not a thing anymore, it’s all big agribusiness and hobby larp farms
Clarkson was just assing about this season. Rasing a fallen treet? Hovercraft farming? Picking berries with a vacuum cleaner? Come on.
I think he realised about half way through season 2 that there is no point in actually giving a shit about farming in the uk because of all the laws, regulations and other moronic bullshit designed to frick you in the ass.
But still, we did it anyway.
>No means no, Jeremy.
there is nothing more annoying than the non chalant english celebrities who establish an image of not caring about status or fame and yet they make shows entirely about that
There is no other group of people that suck the dick of these people than the English
>oi look nigel hes wearin the same clothes as us!
owning a thousand acre farm in the cotswolds is not an average thing that people do here. no one watching this thinks he's a working man of the people. his popularity has always been driven by being the lone tongue-in-cheek voice of classical liberal britain that isn't represented in any form in our political system.
Total Council Death
>weather is 1 degree higher than average
>jeremy looks at the camera
>"This is global warming, and it is le bad"
also
>long winter
>jeremy looks at the camera
>"This is climate change, and it is le bad"
all while looking like he has a gun pointed at him off screen... is this amazon meddling or did Jezza go woke
I wish I was a farmer
Why does a full country need growth and production?
You have nowhere to expand to, unless you want to further subdivide the land so everyone's quality of life goes down.
Well you need production becuase otherwise you have to import everything and now you're at the mercy of people basically dictating the terms of that trade. The brits saw what that meant when they left the EU and the EU basically just told them to shove everything up their asses and just deal with the fact that the every single trade agreement will be renegotiated or abandoned. Because they basically don't have a military anymore they couldn't do shit even if they wanted to, and wanting to means starting a war with other NATO countries over some moronic shit they did to themselves.
brexit like liz trusses short stint in power was britain forgetting it isn't the usa with a hyperpower level military and global reserve currency.
Why is it Norway can operate just fine without being in the EU? Why is it countries like Japan have no issue being power players geopolitically despite having even fewer natural resources?
Norway is one of the richest countries in the world and unlike the UK it adapted its economy to one that can function outside of the EU. The UK, as soon as it entered the union, adapted its economy be reliant on the EU. Then it left and it turned out that its economy that was reliant on the EU was in fact, reliant on the EU.
norway is a joke of a country populated by aryan savages
køp
Scandinavians are Turkish actually
UK used to be the richest country. Why can Norway realign its economy to not need the EU but the UK cannot? Remember that the EU only came into being in 1992, and the UK joined the EEC in 1973.
norway is a bad example tbf, it's like if wales suddenly found itself sitting on saudi levels of fossil fuel reserves during a time when no one cared about the environment.
Which is why I also referenced Japan, who have negligible amounts of natural resources AND no empire to scavenge resources from.
Japan's economy is a unique case in that it's set up for failure but consistently succeeds, Argentina is the opposite where it's set up for success but consistently fails
Or maybe they're just making better decisions than the UK.
Still better off than Britain. What does that tell you?
The point I was ultimately getting at is that it's not that there is some inherent quality of the UK that makes it incapable of standing on its own two feet. It's a cultural rot that has decayed the nation for generations, one that NEEDS to be reversed. Leaving the EU was the 'stop digging' step. Now Britain needs to start climbing out of the hole it's in. I believe Britain can do it, even if not in my lifetime. Why don't you?
>Why don't you?
You're talking about rebuilding a country's economy during a time when even fully developed counties are struggling to figure out what they're supposed to do to stay competitive. America has tried to make a new hyperadvanced semiconductor plant and its struggling even while the government is bending over backwards. That's the level of problems you're going to be dealing with but in dozens of economic sectors. It is to attempt as dramatic an economic shift as a China did after Mao while having none of the political power domestically or anything to offer the rest of the world.
All you have is empty rhetoric. Not even the semblance of an understanding the gravity of the situation. It is worse than you can possibly imagine.
stop yapping. the west would be rebuilt in 20 years if we hang those israeli traitors and losers in charge, kick out the thirdies and give those lefties a good beat down
America has the same cultural problems though not as acute. There is no law of the universe that makes it impossible to do, you have just written the country off because you've only ever known economic stagnation and cultural decay and thus cannot imagine a world outside of that paradigm.
As a Bong that travels between the U.S. and lives in the UK the problems facing both countries are the exact same. Except in the U.S. the effects are far less pronounced as there are still good States that aren't moronic, and plenty of "fly-over" States which have lots of room and country with incredible low density. In the UK we don't have that luxury, it's 4 hours by train from London to Edinburgh and in-between are cities towns and a village almost everywhere you go. There is no "getting away from it" anymore in the UK the population is now the exact same as that of France yet France is 2.3x geographically larger than the UK. It's not a melting pot here, it's a pressure cooker. Advice to all fellow Bong Anons, get out if you can go to New Zealand, go to Eastern Europe, go to Poland or Latvian, Estonia or Lithuania, even go to the U.S. and settle in some bum frick small town in the middle of nowhere just make a peaceful life for yourself it's all you can do just go, anywhere but here.
im not excusing the state of the uk but norway is a different thing.
>Japan
Ah yes, the country that's been economically stagnant since 1990 and who's national currency is worth about the same as a zimbabwe dollar.
And half of its stock market is owned by the central bank and whose government has a debt to gdp ratio close to 300%.
The UK economy as it existed before it was literally dismantled by active policy decision making, was one that was built up over almost two centuries of being at the cutting edge of economic development. There is no magic spell you can cast to make the car manufacturers come back. You'll have to spend decades or perhaps a century in doing painstaking rebuilding factories and a pool of skilled workers.
What Norway did after discovering oil was change its economy to one suited for being a large per capita oil producer that is outside of systems like the EU. If Norway decided that its oil industry is actually not something they want to have and instead just stopping drilling for oil for several decades, it would lose the expertise its developed so that when they end up deciding to start drilling again they have to restart their entire industry from scratch. Britain has to do that with several industries while also competing against other economies who have far more experience in the areas that the UK would be trying to redevelop.
we have a very special level of moron in this country and they also get to have a go at being in charge of everything. it's uniquely awful for many reasons, one of which is anyone of the calibre to lead or manage anything fricks off to the us asap.
If you're not growing you're getting left behind by the rest of the world. See: Sakoku Japan
This does not necessarily mean your population needs to grow, just your economic output.
"Stability" is another word for stagnation.
Japan's population grew during the edo period.
Which is why I specified what 'growth' means. Try reading my whole comment before replying.
Endless growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.
False equivalency, humanity is not a cancer despite what misanthropic leftists like to believe
Of course. Booms and busts are a natural cycle, just like life and death. And like death, declines are opportunities for new life. The issue is that necessary and inevitable retraction IS harmful for the people who have to live through it, even though it is beneficial for the people who come afterwards. It's like the bubonic plague, for the people who survived and were born afterwards the life that came after was much better than before. But nobody wants to live through a plague themselves.
You can't stop these cycles, no more than you can stop the circle of life. That's what I was getting at. We should pursue growth, and accept that death will eventually come with it. Because after that death comes new growth. Think of it like a forest that gets ravaged by a wildfire. You need that fire to clear out the weak and sick undergrowth, so that the healthy plants can grow even stronger.
Your economy can't grow forever, eventually people will be content with what they built, or you'll run out of resources.
Capitalists are always so pro-farming. Communist chads just kill all of the farmers and destroy the crops and nothing bad ever happens.
True
I’m not sure they take their job seriously. They hire illegals, spray pesticides, do whatever monsanto and other big agricultural businesses tell them to do, and so on
Goddammit all you fricking ignoramuses. Farm subsidies in the US originated with the government not wanting to crash prices because the Midwest was so fertile and the navigable river system was so great from the Mississippi tributaries that we could corner the global food supply. They weren't getting paid to farm, they were getting paid NOT to farm.
If people were allowed to keep a cow and a few chickens we wouldn’t have to waste money on bleached eggs and ultra pasteurized milk full of chalk and chemicals
Farmers think it’s a good idea to feed livestock burned plastic garbage and candy still in the wrapper.
we don't do it in south america
Then you have more sense than some people in the US
You don't do much in South America
>venezuela
>cuba
socialism: not even once
>hurrr durrr subsidies keep food prices low
farmers destroy excess crops and dump milk and eggs on the ground to keep prices high, cant have too much supply driving down prices can we, farmers are scum.
LOOK DADDY! LOOK, I'M A FARMER!!!
actual footage of richard hammond appearing on set during s3e5
Silicon valley software engineer that bought a farm to be a pretend cowboy here - AMA