Film pitch:
>It's Pynchon's Inherent Vice, but set in modern day Hollywood!
Prove me wrong.
Film pitch:. >It's Pynchon's Inherent Vice, but set in modern day Hollywood! Prove me wrong.
Film pitch:
>It's Pynchon's Inherent Vice, but set in modern day Hollywood!
Prove me wrong.
I like this movie, something about the inherent vice film made me turn it off after less than a scene. Now that I look, it was directed by the notorious PTA. Is the book good?
It depends on if you enjoy Pynchon's strange writing style.
It's probably the best job you can do at adapting a Pynchon novel. If you are curious about his writing, I'd recommend you to try The Crying Of Lot 49, because it's pretty short and relatively concise. And if you don't like it you likely won't enjoy any of his doorstoppers either.
>something about the inherent vice film made me turn it off after less than a scene
Exactly the same thing happened to me.
I gave it a chance some time later and guess what? It was shit. If Under the Silver Lake rips off that book, good. It's a much better movie in every way.
Fenix is a decent actor but needs direction, not just a camera put on him
i liked inherent vice way more. but it was the 70s backdrop and weird comedy that did it for me, not the story itself which was kinda meh in the end.
under the silver lake on the other hand was legit a succession of scenes that were deliberately made confusing as shit, only revealing bits and pieces of nonsense just to fuck with the audience. it was ok to some degree but still not as good as IV
its a great movie who cares if its derivative.
It was well made, and the dialog was good, but I couldn't help comparing it to Inherent Vice. I also struggled with how some characters noticed the skunk smell and others didn't. Like some characters were imaginings and others were real people. It confused me and was never explained.
Under The Silver Lake kind of sucks. I really enjoyed the style, feeling and setting, but the actual plot is composed of completely disconnected fragments of myth, mysteries and ambigious 'clues' that all tease you into thinking they connect to something larger, when they don't. There is no grand unifying anything, whether that be the mystery, a central character arc or any kind of tension in the plot, there is just no palpable through line, making the whole thing a jumbled collection of 'cool' scenes.
Opposed to Inherent Vice where all the pieces actually do connect to one grand conspiracy with a logical flow, if you pay attention to all the clues given to you. IV also has an actual arc and journey for our protagonist through which he actually experiences change and has to make a real decision. In fact one of the biggest differences is how Doc has a lot of agency in his journey, constantly making decisions and trying to figure things out while Andrew Garfield's character just kind of drifts between plot points that other people feed him, almost arbitrarily.
UTSL is a shitty movie that tricks people with low IQs into thinking its about something more, but if you actually stop to think about for it for a second and have any level of media literacy you quickly realize it all falls apart.
you are genuinely retarded
You're right about Inherent Vice being more rational in way. But I think UTSL is focusing more on elements if investigation and personality that lead only to further confusion. If that was the goal, it did a good job. If not, then it was a confusing mess.
I appreciated for how it de-fangs hollywood, from this international cabal of Illuminati type child molesters to just a bunch of out of touch hedonistic millionaires.
We must not have seen the same movie then. The entire town is made creepy as fuck with the exclusive secret parties targeting young blood, dangerous places around the hills with the implication of people going missing, underground tunnels and their ways to infiltrate your residence, and kind of 'funny'-kill you if you're in their way.
But sure, they behaved cooky and weird ocassionally.
You are right but just before the musician scene, the movie takes a change of tone. The MC joins the two hookers in search for the mansion where his love interest was displayed. The scenes are brightly lit and its obvious an homage to The Wizard of Oz. Once he killed the old men its back to the creepy tone. Watch it again its kino.
how does it. its literally about how yes, they have tricked billions of people for almost a hundred years and its directly in your face with the music and entertainment you base your personalities on.
hollywood IS just a bunch of people running a conspiracy, its just more in tune with reality: you dont need to be some shape shifting lizard to control the masses, you just need bread and circuses.
I just watched this for the first time last night and I agree. Near the end I was thinking this was a brilliant movie if all the pieces could connect, but then the Nintendo Power magazine came out and I immediately knew it all would fall flat. A part of me thought maybe I just didn't get it so I searched for something I may have missed on the internet, only to find some half baked clues sprinkled throughout the movie that ultimately leads to nothing, just like the movie itself. What a cop out.
On the other hand, I also agree that the style, feeling and setting is unique and the best part about it. I've been to weird artsy "speak easy" parties in LA and other cities before where you feel out of place, like everyone knows something you don't, and this film captured that extremely well.
>feeling
Because that was what it aimed to do. To make you feel instead of giving you some grand keikaku to cerebrally wank yourself off to. Garfield' s character is a jab to the indie sleaze intellectuals who get stuck on muh meanings muh plot instead of the feelings conveyed on screen
It sure made me feel like sleeping if it was was trying to convey boredom then great job
Another day another plotfag filtered
Under the Silver Lake is kino
Inherent Vice for the reddit audience
it's the reverse actually
Inherent Vice is much more palatrable for normgroids as evidenced by
Not in the slightest. You're the midwit here. That anon laid out a great and short analysis of why IH is the better film and you just ignore it because the Reddit movie made you feel good.
>t. normalfaggus maximus
>made a movie about weird Hollywood conspiracies and creepy elites
>never made another one despite being quite popular and successful
Hmmm
is this worth seeing?
it's on Max but was hesitant about spending the runtime watching it
It's worth a watch if you like film noir, detective stories, or conspiracy theories.
This film shits all over Inherent Vice and if you didn't like it's because you're a hylic.
I liked it, but I was annoyed by how open-ended everything is.
That's kind of the point though. The film is operating on multiple levels and is imbued with esoteric meaning. This is the best analysis I've found that actually gets what the film is trying to say.
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Looks Cool. I'll check that out.
The entire movie is an empty husk, fabricated so this single scene can exist
Too late though, everyone knew this shit by 2018, it would have been a cult classic if it had come out 3-4 years earlier
That was just a wizard of Oz reference. The scene before he is heading to a map painting mansion on what is essentially the golden brick road.
>golden brick road
That was the 'yellow brick road' my dude.
Sorry anon I am esl the translation is a bit different
That's cool.
That is, indeed, the most memorable scene. Good scene.
>by 2018
Holy shit fucking zoomer. There is always people that notice how fake corporate counter culture is through the generations. How music and "culture" is used to control for whatever the creators means are. If it was "everyone" the industry would have collapsed by now.
This movie was midwit A24 crap. Inherent Vice is a better film in every conceivable way and aspect.
Inherent Vice is genuinely unwatchable, the acting and script are both so bad. It's like someone screaming in your face at the top of their lungs "I'M QUIRCKY AND WEIRD" for 2 hours.
I liked this a lot
you can just tell when something was created with passion from the people involved
It was certainly well made. I've only watched it twice so far. But I'm going to watch it again tonight when I get back from work. It's mystifying. I like challenging films, and I'm looking forward to picking it apart.
It’s inherent vice if he’s not involved in anything sinister and nothing is actually happening and none of it goes anywhere or has any greater meaning.
Post-modernist drivel
>It's Pynchon's Inherent Vice, but much more enjoyable!
more like
>its inherent vice, but better because i didnt lose the plot because i was staring at my phone for 85% of the film