>multiverse
Oh frick off. This is the new Hollywood "thing" isn't it?
/tv/, what were the other "things" that Hollywood latched on to? Wasn't nuclear fusion a common plot point in the early 2000s?
It’s just an excuse to break cannon without consequences. Writers are lazy and don’t like consistency.
>multiverse
not only that. it's an excuse to "discover" the alternative reality of where everyone is a troony, homosexual, Black person, or Mary Sue.... They wouldn't go to the universe where they say "What if Anakin remained true to the Jedi?" they'd ask "What if Anakin was a woman, who used the force to manipulate the midichlorians inside Padme to give birth to Luke and Leia?".
Comics have been doing this and resets (new 52 lmao) since forever cause they run out of ideas after writing for decades. I'm surprised Disney has already caved in this early. Also e-girl ahsoka >>>> mongoloid balding adult ahsoka
It is running out of ideas, but the criticism is that there are more good ideas available if they werent corporate money hungry drones concerned with broad appeal over quality yet they prefer this multiverse crap to continue on their ways
this mexican thinks random users are his friends. mexican have such a small frontal lobe.
It's the only get out of jail free card they know when the single universe that should exist reaches fubar status.
It’s just an excuse to break cannon without consequences. Writers are lazy and don’t like consistency.
Elites want this multiverse stuff in every kids mind so when they turn on the particle accelerator again they are absolved of karma.
[...] >multiverse
not only that. it's an excuse to "discover" the alternative reality of where everyone is a troony, homosexual, Black person, or Mary Sue.... They wouldn't go to the universe where they say "What if Anakin remained true to the Jedi?" they'd ask "What if Anakin was a woman, who used the force to manipulate the midichlorians inside Padme to give birth to Luke and Leia?".
Multiverse might be the only way to retcon Disney's trilogy they should've use time travel instead imo
That was the rumour some years ago, wasn't it? That, using the world between worlds Ahsoka somehow would "undo" the shitfest that The Last Jedi/The Rise of Skywalker were.
Star Wars is already multiverse shit. Every comic and shitty side story is completey incompatible with everything else and every 20 minutes of the Sequel Trilogy might as well take place in a different continuity from the next 20 minutes.
No, that means you pick what you like and shit on the rest. It was a system thar worked for everybody. It can't be done with nu wars since everything is the same level of canon, even yidsney's larp shit in Galaxy's Edge
But Lucas' The Clone Wars was never EU, and it's the best and definitive version from the creator of Star Wars, what are you talking about? You must be confused.
They kept saying it was a supposed fancast but I've never heard anybody publicly say they wanted Rosario Dawson.
Or even talk about Ahsoka. I'm beginning to think all these "people" that like her are just part of one big astroturf attempt. I remember how much people hated her. I still do.
Every disneed thread is race baiting. Every amazoned thread is political baiting. The shills get paid by the bump, which they pretend is a "social media impression".
They kept saying it was a supposed fancast but I've never heard anybody publicly say they wanted Rosario Dawson.
Or even talk about Ahsoka. I'm beginning to think all these "people" that like her are just part of one big astroturf attempt. I remember how much people hated her. I still do.
>nooooooo they can't cast a Black person even with make up to make them an alien species
They kept saying it was a supposed fancast but I've never heard anybody publicly say they wanted Rosario Dawson.
Or even talk about Ahsoka. I'm beginning to think all these "people" that like her are just part of one big astroturf attempt. I remember how much people hated her. I still do.
It was literally unapologetically a fancast, that's the one claim you should take it seriously. I was even around tumblr when this shit happened.
I didn't think the fancast would be real until Filoni jumped on twitter and followed Rosario Dawson after some Ahsoka fangirls kept pushing her. It's weird that they never gave better actors a chance. Plus there were no plans for a live action series back then.
>EUgays run a massive interconnected franchise for 40 years without ruining it >Disney needs to abandon ship in less than 10 because they fricked up too hard
run a massive interconnected franchise for 40 years without ruining it
Buddy the EU retconned fricking A New Hope not even a full year after it released, did you never read Splinter of the Mind's Eye?
Patiently waiting for that one Filonigay to come here and defend this. >*insert textwall about how it was all part of George Lucas' vision all along complete with outdated quotes and how we all hate Filoni because we're manchildren and EUgays*
>Anti-Filonigays read a clickbait title from a news website nobody knows about, takes it as absolute gospel and doesn't bother validating the authenticity of it months before the show is even out.
>they make the sequels a different multiverse >but they introduce other multiverses >one where Obi-Wan and Anakin are gay for each other >one where everyone important dies and are replaced by blacks and women >one where Ahsoka, Padme and Rey team up for the ultimate #girlboss moment >these will impact and influence the way the "canon" universe is
You're so short sighted it's laughable.
And she is dancing now!
Her feet are light and nimble. She never loses. They say that she will never die. She is always jumping out of danger. She spinflips and leaps in light and in shadow and she is a great favorite. She never loses, Ahsoka. She is dancing, dancing. They say that she will never die!
Everybody was predicting it ever since the show's logo was displayed, that being a gateway to the World Between Worlds. It's obvious Disney will use it to decanonise the Sequels. >but muh novels and comics
The Bad Batch has already proven they're more than willing to decanonise those at a moment's notice.
>Disney will use it to decanonise the Sequels
i don't know anon a lot of journos and cucks would frickin riot if this happens and disney listen to those morons
A comic book isn't the same as a 4 billion trilogy.
The point of a multiverse is more to eliminate the concept of "one canon" altogether; if it's true, they likely believe they can get the classic fanbase back on board with a mixture of "see, we take *your* Star Wars seriously as well, we made it part of the Star Wars Canon Multiverse!" and naked pandering slop like the Obi-wan show, *without* TRIGGERING the twitterhags and pretendy-journos.
It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that the latter will see through their efforts and know they can gain social capital/clicks by denouncing "obvious pandering to racist chudcels!" or that the former might consider the EU being officially placed on the same level as the Sequels just as much of an insult as it being deleted, even if technically the Sequels are being dragged down to the EU's level.
Although thinking about it, I could be underestimating Lucasfilm, they could be *really* committed to crashing the brand with no survivors and would use a multiverse concept as an excuse to even further denigrate the classic films and their characters by telling "new versions" of those stories where all their "Luke was a feckless loser who did nothing of consequence, the Star War was won by a succession of kickass snarky girlbosses!" fantasies are made real.
At this point, who the frick knows what they're thinking.
The irony of ironies is that every single female that I know of hates what they did to Luke and either hates (or has totally forgotten about) girlboss Rey Palpatine. So who the frick are these new movies actually for??
>decanonise the sequels and Nu Wars >return to EU >after two months EU already looks like Nu Wars
I see no victory here without changing the writers and heads of Lucasfilm
I'll be happy if they decide to retcon away the entire ST. I know it's petty but frick it I just don't care. They already did away with the EU, might as well get rid of that shit too and stick with the spinoff films/shows.
i just watched an episode or 2 of obiwan as part of my rehab program , i think i'm doing good and will be able to totally skip whatever is coming next. unless it got that scrappy cool old space civilization pulp spirit of t he original and got rave reviews by actual fans... but what are the odds it gonna happen: i presume if it happens i will hear about it.
i was joking a bit, but i did see pretty much every st ar wars shit since didney happened on the scene. except cartoons, even an addict got some dignity.
>multiverse
Well that was pretty obvious. Remember how Boba Fett had a completely different origin story before Attack of the Clones came out? Or remember how General Grievous was basically a slasher movie villain and then Episode III came out and he became a weak sniveling pussy?
Star Wars isn't a cohesive story. It's more like Transformers or Ninja Turtles where you can have multiple versions of the same character.
Expanded universe is a different matter though. In EU you are expected to believe that everything happened in the same timeline, and all inconsistencies are just mistakes or deliberate retcons. Multiverse is basically there's a parallel timeline somewhere where it's true. But I have never seen this idea ever used well. Admittedly I'm a follower of the everything is canon onto itself and nothing else school.
I know the distinction, anon.
What I mean is they had a universe ready to go that just needed some tidying up and streamlining to undo retcons and shit. Disneed chose the route of pain and greed.
You are moronic to think that anyone involved in disney nu-wars is smart enough to pull off something like that. and even if they did, there's no indication that Filoni can make anything decent under disney. Mando was shit, so was Boba and Kenobi. They can make a thousand universes and they'd all be the same garbage. The reason that Mando contradicts the sequel trilogy is because they're all completely fricking incompetent, it's a sign of them not caring about their own lore, nothing else. If you're going to have a star wars canon that makes sense then you have to exclude everything disney-related. It's over.
That's a way forward for the franchise. They fricked up one universe already. But this makes it possible for the old EU to exist. Look at the different Batmans, we can watch whatever and it works because they are independent universes.
>they make the sequels a different multiverse >but they introduce other multiverses >one where Obi-Wan and Anakin are gay for each other >one where everyone important dies and are replaced by blacks and women >one where Ahsoka, Padme and Rey team up for the ultimate #girlboss moment >these will impact and influence the way the "canon" universe is
You're so short sighted it's laughable.
Multiverse is the worst idea since time travel. Why do I care about what happens if the hero wins and loses in an infinite amount of other universes? Nothing matters if there are infinite universes and everything can happen.
They could frick it up with some Marvel style shit about hopping between different universes, but multiple timelines doesn't have to be inherently bad.
Like, suppose Ahsoka finally finds Thrawn/Ezra at the edge of known space, but it turns out that instead of some diabolical plot, Thrawn is preparing a fleet to head out past the edge of the galaxy to build a new civilization somewhere out there in the unknown. Thrawn offers Ahsoka the chance to join them, but she knows that this would mean she could never return to help Luke rebuild the Jedi order. Ahsoka meditates on the choice and sees a vision of the future where she accepts Thrawn's offer, in which she is the founder of a new force tradition free from the ancient Jedi/Sith feud, but back in the galaxy, the events of the Sequel Trilogy have taken place, with Luke failing and becoming a bitter old hermit, the New Republic falling into chaos, etc.
So Ahsoka declines Thrawn's offer and returns to Luke, creating the possibility for a different future where the Jedi are restored instead of ending with Kylo's school shooter moment.
Kathleen broke the covenant with the fans when she intentionally trashed George Lucas’s outline for the ST (to say nothing of betraying and humiliating her mentor). George wanted Episode 9 to end with Leia as Chancellor of the New Republic and Luke as Grand Master of the New Jedi Order. That was the story, that HIS story of the Skywalker Saga. And Kathleen ignored it and rewrote the story to turn Leia and Luke into losers and failures. It’s unfrickingforgivable and ruins the entire Saga. This controversy will never be over until they figure out a way to fix it. If it takes Ashoka seeing a multiverse and changing things I’m fine with it
>This controversy will never be over until they figure out a way to fix it. If it takes Ashoka seeing a multiverse and changing things I’m fine with it
I will never understand why people will allow themselves to wade and wallow through so much shit for some self-fullfilling outcome that's clearly not going to happen.
You're just lying to yourselves.
>George wanted Episode 9 to end with Leia as Chancellor of the New Republic and Luke as Grand Master of the New Jedi Order.
Kek. Is that what Doomwiener told you?
>Lucas Outline for 7-9 have been out there for LITERAL FRICKING YEARS now.
You mean those obvious fake photographed pages from the >fricking liar and fraud
?
They absolutely should embrace a multiverse. Millions of people fricking detest the “Sequel” Trilogy like a cancer. As much as they publicly deny it, internally Lucasfilm knows the ST is a massive ongoing problem for them.
It's completely pointless to declare a multiverse unless you want every canon to acknowledge every other canon. Different canons already existed within the EU, and even now we have the major Canon/Legends split. People can understand well enough that they are separate things without some bullshit in-universe explanation of multiple worlds.
The only difference between having multiple canons, which is what we currently have, and having a multiverse, is that the latter bridges the different canons. Why would you want that?
Kathleen doesn’t acknowledge the EU (“Legends”) as its own viable universe/ canon. That’s the problem. They outright say that it didn’t happen. Even just doing the bare minimum thing and announcing that “Legends” is its own viable universe in a Star Wars Multiverse, and opening up that timeline for future media development might work towards bringing some of the fandom back.
If that was the motivation behind this move, I would agree with you. But if you ask me, going this far to open Legends back up again sounds unlikely. If anything Disney would just use this move to turn Star Wars into the equivalent of a gacha game.
Multiverse stuff can be awesome like it was in the MCU and No way home. But the people making things in Lucasfilm are such bad creatives that they're going to waste it.
I actually think this is a good idea, if it's their way of making the EU cannon again. They fricked up 90% of what they've come up with since the buyout and pissed off the fans who actually spend money, so this could be their escape hatch out. That way, leftists can have incel Luke and Mary Ray Sue, while normal old school fans can have Mara Jade and bad ass Luke.
I’ve always thought that this was the simplest, most obvious thing to do. Star Wars lost MILLIONS of fans over the last 10 years through their mediocre, chaotic, illogical, mean-spirited story decisions. And they have made very few new fans to replace those they lost. This puts in Lucasfilm in a kind of demographic death spiral.
Why not try to bring these people (disaffected fans) back?? There are billions of dollars in potential revenue if you gave them their own universe to play in.
I’d say if Kennedy goes for the multiverse route in Ashoka that would be her power play or “Ukraine” moment. It would be a bold move to ensure that the Star Wars Empire survives its demographic death spiral, and it would probably work. Otherwise she’ll just let the decline happen and go into exile in a few years
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>and it would probably work.
Eh, I have doubts about that. The reason it works in Marvel and DC is because they've been around for 80 years (US soldiers were literally reading the same comics during World War II) and have always had to constantly retcon shit and multiversing as just a mechanism to prevent the fanbase from hemorrhaging.
Star Wars had been around for a little under 50 years and its major strength was the relative maintaining of a singular continuity from start to finish.
You're right, it's bold, but it seems more likely to backfire after being widely recognized as an attempt by Kathleen "less brains than John F." Kennedy to avoid being held responsible for her own poor decisions.
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>Star Wars had been around for a little under 50 years and its major strength was the relative maintaining of a singular continuity from start to finish.
This no longer a strength at all. The mere fact that millions of fans beg for a multiverse is proof positive that what was once a strength is now a severe, likely fatal, weakness
2 years ago
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>millions of fans beg for a multiverse
No, what they're begging for is for the Sequels and anything related to them to be retconned. Not for the Star Wars Universe to be fragmented into 20 different universes.
2 years ago
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>20
That’s an arbitrary number. People just want to re-engage with the story. They hate the current story
2 years ago
Anonymous
thats what a multiverse is
thats what the EU was, and everybody and their grandmothers have been crying "give us back the EU!" for nearly 10 Goddamn years
2 years ago
Anonymous
The EU never retconned a movie trilogy.
2 years ago
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it sure as hell tried
2 years ago
Anonymous
If you're talking about Dark Empire then you're wrong since George liked it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
When?
2 years ago
Anonymous
Jack Kennedy made some very good decisions in his life. He was a pretty clever guy with very good instincts. He just made one fatal mistake
2012 was lucas selling the franchise and the underhanded dealings that went on during that period. the invasion was killing the canon. and now just like the real war, it will go on painfully for as long as possible to draw in the most money and weapons to turn the country into an endless war society that only exists to give money to the war economy.
I’ve always thought that this was the simplest, most obvious thing to do. Star Wars lost MILLIONS of fans over the last 10 years through their mediocre, chaotic, illogical, mean-spirited story decisions. And they have made very few new fans to replace those they lost. This puts in Lucasfilm in a kind of demographic death spiral.
Why not try to bring these people (disaffected fans) back?? There are billions of dollars in potential revenue if you gave them their own universe to play in.
Kathleen doesn’t acknowledge the EU (“Legends”) as its own viable universe/ canon. That’s the problem. They outright say that it didn’t happen. Even just doing the bare minimum thing and announcing that “Legends” is its own viable universe in a Star Wars Multiverse, and opening up that timeline for future media development might work towards bringing some of the fandom back.
>bring back EU
Nah frick that, I'd rather see Disney be financially ruined to the point of bankruptcy and the whole company collapses. Maybe George can buy back the IP for pennies on the dollar at the liquidation sale.
>170 replies in >no source to OP's claim >Cinemaphile yet again took low hanging bait, and argues about nothing
The Sequels are never going away. Give up now.
Try Google, Rosario Dawson made a “multiverse” comment in relation to her show. It’s on many sites. As far as the corporate Sequels “going away” that’s not what people here are asserting. Only that a “multiverse” or alternative timeline gets acknowledged and perhaps utilized down the road
is going to save Star W-
It's time to come to terms with the truth, they got Filoni bros, they may have found some dirty laundry and now Filoni is going to make his shows woke.
It's over.
The Last Jedi was actually the best way forward if they weren't going to go the EU route, in terms of actually advancing the story and themes. The problem is it was a shit movie tied to the shit sequel trilogy.
Luke himself recognizing the true nature of the Force and the way in which his father brought balance, by destroying both the Sith AND the Jedi, and that he was making a mistake by trying to ressurect the order and restore the dichotomy, would be kino.
Unfortunately Johnson was obsessed with making Luke pathetic and old and having the plot be godfricking-awful.
They could have done so many interesting things with the Last Jedi both philosophically and narratively. Instead they went with Kathy’s goal of humiliating and degrading and destroying Luke so people would accept Rey as the new “face of the franchise.” But it’s because they went in this particular direction that NOBODY will now accept Rey as anything but an OP dead end.
>Luke himself recognizing the true nature of the Force and the way in which his father brought balance, by destroying both the Sith AND the Jedi, and that he was making a mistake by trying to ressurect the order and restore the dichotomy, would be kino.
Are you suggesting the Gray Jedi theme?
No, Luke was creating an entirely new philosophy and Order of the Force. Something that George Lucas literally intended for him to do since the start of the Saga.
>No, Luke was creating an entirely new philosophy and Order of the Force.
They definitely fricked that up when they had him go with Jedi orthodoxy when Grogu came around.
Doomwiener is a fricking liar and a fraud and the Lucas Outline for 7-9 have been out there for LITERAL FRICKING YEARS now. How dumb are you?
>the Lucas Outline for 7-9 have been out there for LITERAL FRICKING YEARS now.
Yeah. Disney followed the broad strokes of Lucas' outline for Luke in the plot. He was even supposed to die in his Episode 8.
No, they didn’t. Luke survived in the Lucas Trilogy
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pablo Hidalgo said otherwise, but Mark Hamill contradicted him and said that Luke was going to die in 9.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Pablo Hidalgo
LOL
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well, it proves that someone is bullshitting somewhere.
2 years ago
Anonymous
George Lucas says one thing. Post-merger, affirmative action, Woke religion-worshiping, corporate soldier Pablo Hidalgo says another in an attempt to justify the decision that destroyed Lucasfilm as the massive online backlash was building.
I'm suggesting the synthesis of ideals presented in kotor 2. Even Lucas knew that the ego-death of the Jedi wasn't the way to go, and the Sith just get consumed and become evil slaves.
Any serious sequel movies would need to unify these concepts into a new idea and actually explain what the Force is (and there is a good explanation).
Luke redeeming his father with love is a good jumping off point because such a thing isn't actually very Jedi.
>Luke redeeming his father with love is a good jumping off point because such a thing isn't actually very Jedi.
I thought the Jedi were supposed to feel some kind of Jesus-like love for all living things?
What is the relationship between master and padawan then? When you put a child in someone's care for 10+ and make sure that they live together, train together, meditate together and effectively forbid even a sibling or second parent-like figure entering the picture familial love is pretty much bound to happen.
to be fair if it like startrek containt the bullshit of the sequel in its own universe/timeline whatever it would an improvment. could even a chance for the EU comicbook adaption, tough it will might will ruin them by making them woke
That's peak Ahsoka: they changed her outfit in Season 3, gave her a horse-face for Rebels and turned her into a 80's Chicago Bears linebacker in the live action series.
Movie and season 1-2 Ahsoka is my favorite for sure, but 3-6 is definitely still hot as frick. Season 7 is overrated as frick. Rebels is just garbage all around, no one looks good in it.
Smooth Yoda is just nightmare fuel. But downs syndrome Bo-Katan is almost worse.
Pure sex.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The face you make when you discover your slave outfit is less revealing than the one you regularly use.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Pleasant surprise mixed with "wait, was I really almost naked this whole time?"
2 years ago
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I love how everyone was obsessed with her lips.
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Anonymous
>e-girl Ahsoka.
Too bad we only got this scene of her as a child.
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I love how everyone was obsessed with her lips.
Goddamn, she's so fricking sexy.
I really hope we get a lot more of her in Tales of the Jedi.
2 years ago
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What happened to Barris?
2 years ago
Anonymous
She turned to the dark side and was imprisoned on Coruscant. No idea what happened after the fall of the Republic.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I can imagine Palpatine paying her a visit in prison and telling her "you were right about everything lol", so she spends the next 30 years spreading PALPATINE IS A SITH LORD theories on the holonet.
2 years ago
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Just waiting for the flood of orange dicky pics this episode will create and promote.
2 years ago
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How in the everloving name of frick do Togrutas give birth? Look a the head of that baby and the hips of (what I suppose is) the mother. Unless they come from eggs, it is physically impossible for one to come out of the other. >Their bones could be soft!
Yeah, but they should be hard enough to protect the softer, more important organs on the babies head. This isn't toothpaste we're talking about here.
2 years ago
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the headtails don't have bones in them, they're squishy flesh like boobs
2 years ago
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I just hope it shows all of her growing up and not just that. I'm not into toddlers, man.
I can imagine Palpatine paying her a visit in prison and telling her "you were right about everything lol", so she spends the next 30 years spreading PALPATINE IS A SITH LORD theories on the holonet.
I can see Palpy being so sadistic as to reveal all the secrets to her but knowing that no one will ever believe her.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Don't you want to see little Ahsoka play around in the grass with other Togruta kids? I would like to see something else than "the stoic teenage that is in the middle of a galaxy spanning war" for a change.
Besides, she's supposed to go barefoot, since Togrutas (or at least the ones living in Shlli) supposedly hate wearing shoes.
2 years ago
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>Don't you want to see little Ahsoka play around in the grass with other Togruta kids?
Oh, yeah, of course I'd wanna see what her life was like before she was "recruited", and all that. I just don't want lewds of her as a *baby.*
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That fivehead is CUTE!
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Smooth Yoda is just nightmare fuel. But downs syndrome Bo-Katan is almost worse.
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Pure sex.
Movie and season 1-2 Ahsoka is my favorite for sure, but 3-6 is definitely still hot as frick. Season 7 is overrated as frick. Rebels is just garbage all around, no one looks good in it.
I dunno bro, watching TCW right now and I have to disagree.
um whats the age of consent in the galactic republic
>they make the sequels a different multiverse >but they introduce other multiverses >one where Obi-Wan and Anakin are gay for each other >one where everyone important dies and are replaced by blacks and women >one where Ahsoka, Padme and Rey team up for the ultimate #girlboss moment >these will impact and influence the way the "canon" universe is
You're so short sighted it's laughable.
>Multiverse
JUST STOP STOP WITH THIS SHIT
I ONLY WANT TO FOCUS ON ONE UNIVERSE NOT FRICKING UNIVERSE No214253 or No 21432150 STOP INTRODUCING ME TO THIS SHITTY ASS CONCEPT
Don’t bother. Star Wars is dead. All roads lead to Rey Sue Palpatine, a “character” that even SJWs give 0.0 fricks about. It’s a dead brand with a terrible story.
Filoni has unironically done more damage to Star Wars than Kathleen Kennedy, JJ Abrams, and Rian Johnson. He's been behind all of it. George Lucas trusted him, and he destroyed his entire legacy.
>They are just going to strip mine the old EU and fling elements into these new shows while also using the new shows to try and re-contextualise the sequels to make normalgays think any of this is good
Duology gave Thrawn a deeper motivation, but it didn’t change the fact that in the original book trilogy he killed subordinates, tortured prisoners, reneged on deals, and was honestly an butthole to Mara.
New Thrawn has literally never done anything wrong in the books other than have space autism. I’m reading the first Ascendency book now and he gives pep talks to little girls and plays cards to pass the time.
This could actually be the only thing that could fix SWINO at this point. Retcon all of the woke trash and move forward. Seriously doubt they will do it though.
Who am I kidding, it's dead and it was dead the moment the disney grooming company go a hold of it.
It's ok. But there's not a lot of action. It's pretty slow and meditative, it's more about trauma, PTSD, guilt and recovering from it to find a new purpose. If you're interested in what Ahsoka was doing after order 66, how she got recruited into the rebellion, and how she got her white sabers, then go ahead.
The problem with Ashoka is that she really lacks flaws or a proper character arc. I will say that Ashoka is 2000% more likable than Rey Palpatine, however what actually is her story about? Being really nice and good all the time??
The truly great characters actually have flaws, and growth. That’s what makes them compelling
Yeah, that's kinda what I want. I saw her in action in TCW, I want something that's more inwards to her as a character.
I think it's retconned by TCW's last season, lol.
Not really, only some details on one page with flashbacks about The Siege of Mandalore. The actual body of the novel, that is post-Order 66 story, has not been touched (yet).
Welp. If it's only minor I'll still check it out.
The problem with Ashoka is that she really lacks flaws or a proper character arc. I will say that Ashoka is 2000% more likable than Rey Palpatine, however what actually is her story about? Being really nice and good all the time??
The truly great characters actually have flaws, and growth. That’s what makes them compelling
Ahsoka does absolutely have growth. Maybe not a complete arc, but growth. Her in TCW season 1 and season 6 and 7 is like night and day.
Not really, only some details on one page with flashbacks about The Siege of Mandalore. The actual body of the novel, that is post-Order 66 story, has not been touched (yet).
God damn it. Star Worz was always shit, on release, it was a joke. Not until way later did you homosexual start licking Geroge lucas fat veiny wiener to completion
Filoni and lucas is hack. Star wars was be shit before deal with disney.
You be preaching to choir here, mon. Dat bloclot George Lucas and dem Disney zombie execs be teamin up to ruin jas childhood.
hello Mr Hyde. got tired of making the same Udu joke on shittube so you came here?
>*Braids included.
>multiverse
Oh frick off. This is the new Hollywood "thing" isn't it?
/tv/, what were the other "things" that Hollywood latched on to? Wasn't nuclear fusion a common plot point in the early 2000s?
this mexican thinks random users are his friends. mexican have such a small frontal lobe.
I'm Australian. Where the frick did you get Mexican from?
gross. youre actually just brain damaged.
Yeah no shit c**t, most of us are brain damaged.
>Yeah no shit c**t, most of us are brain damaged
ah yes, the brown persons favorite reaction image.
Sounds like you're obsessed with brown people m8
whatever keeps you from looking into a mirror. top kek
Why we’re here, in’it.
>youre
It's "you're", pajeet subhuman trash.
this Hispanic got mad as frick for being compared to a brain damaged australian.
Lol. Pajeets are careful with their grammer. Only western idiots gets confused with these.
its true. a non esl would perfectly understand youre from you're.
DO NOT REDEEM
you really liked Cinemaphile during that gta rerelease.
GOOD MORNING SIRS!
WHY DID YOU REDEEM SIR I TOLD YOU NOT TO REDEEM
israelite detected
top kek at this mexican hoping to impress white men
nah anon that's just a troony
did you get that from your neovegana?
you tell em, pedro! viva la california!
It's the only get out of jail free card they know when the single universe that should exist reaches fubar status.
It’s just an excuse to break cannon without consequences. Writers are lazy and don’t like consistency.
it's an excuse to retcon.
Where the Multiverse where Anne Frank is nine months pregnant and having a train run on her by a company of Confederate soldiers?
THE ONLY GIRL I EVER LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVED
Elites want this multiverse stuff in every kids mind so when they turn on the particle accelerator again they are absolved of karma.
>multiverse
not only that. it's an excuse to "discover" the alternative reality of where everyone is a troony, homosexual, Black person, or Mary Sue.... They wouldn't go to the universe where they say "What if Anakin remained true to the Jedi?" they'd ask "What if Anakin was a woman, who used the force to manipulate the midichlorians inside Padme to give birth to Luke and Leia?".
Comics have been doing this and resets (new 52 lmao) since forever cause they run out of ideas after writing for decades. I'm surprised Disney has already caved in this early. Also e-girl ahsoka >>>> mongoloid balding adult ahsoka
>e-girl Ahsoka.
Too bad we only got this scene of her as a child.
It is running out of ideas, but the criticism is that there are more good ideas available if they werent corporate money hungry drones concerned with broad appeal over quality yet they prefer this multiverse crap to continue on their ways
Multiverse might be the only way to retcon Disney's trilogy they should've use time travel instead imo
That was the rumour some years ago, wasn't it? That, using the world between worlds Ahsoka somehow would "undo" the shitfest that The Last Jedi/The Rise of Skywalker were.
Star Wars is already multiverse shit. Every comic and shitty side story is completey incompatible with everything else and every 20 minutes of the Sequel Trilogy might as well take place in a different continuity from the next 20 minutes.
it's great for lazy writing and cheap bucks.
>"the plot doesn't make sense!"
>"sorry chud, it's multiverse"
>"the characters doesn't interact well at all"
>"multiverse"
>"but-"
>"MULTIVERSE!"
didnt he already introduced force time travel in his shitty cartoon?
yeah his furry dickwolves could hyperspace time travel through solid rock or something
Feels good to be an EUchad.
Damn right.
I am constantly reminded that canonshitters will forever get the short end of the stick and it makes me smile.
>canonshitters will forever get the short end of the stick
you only got books
>EU
That just means you accept all the stories no matter how much they overlap or retcon each other.
No, that means you pick what you like and shit on the rest. It was a system thar worked for everybody. It can't be done with nu wars since everything is the same level of canon, even yidsney's larp shit in Galaxy's Edge
eat shit ignorant frick
>tfw EUchads already have a complete Clone Wars timeline AND a better animated series
But Lucas' The Clone Wars was never EU, and it's the best and definitive version from the creator of Star Wars, what are you talking about? You must be confused.
>first time travel
>now multiverse bullshit
Thank you, furhomosexual, very cool.
Why does EVERYTHING have to be like Rick and Morty now?
This could at least explain the Nu-sequels: they occurred in a different timeline.
Regardless, not watching Star Wars ever again.
i cannot believe they cast this goofy looking b***h to play Ahsoka. goddamn it.
They kept saying it was a supposed fancast but I've never heard anybody publicly say they wanted Rosario Dawson.
Or even talk about Ahsoka. I'm beginning to think all these "people" that like her are just part of one big astroturf attempt. I remember how much people hated her. I still do.
anon you post the same shit in almost every thread and you have been doing it for like a month, are you an autist that got raped by mexicans?
>be a spic
>read about hispanics getting insulted
>get upset
easy kek
damn i guess you're troll, will hide every post from you from now on, last (you) to you
you should post a chad meme next, it will totally cement how not brown you are.
top kek
>be a brown newbie
>care about Cinemaphile etiquette
peak Hispanic behavior. top fricking kek
the funny thing is you brown people think you are talking to white people on Cinemaphile.
>be a spic
>remember insults about hispanics for a month
>stayed upset the entire time
easy kek
Every disneed thread is race baiting. Every amazoned thread is political baiting. The shills get paid by the bump, which they pretend is a "social media impression".
>nooooooo they can't cast a Black person even with make up to make them an alien species
Correct.
They should only be hot white, hispanic and asian women.
they had the voice actress but they casted rosario dawson instead
And it's a good thing they didn't cast her either.
Aged like fricking cheese in the sun, good god.
damn is that her? yeah they need it to recast
Holy shit, were we kings?
We were kings, and such
>Holy shit, were we kings?
but rosario is not a negress
Imo they should have cast a poo. Fits the facial structure way better.
some mutt actually would have been perfect casting
moron
Ugly
Those faces have barely any similarity except being put in the same position
Middle is implying things too
Yeah it is.
It was literally unapologetically a fancast, that's the one claim you should take it seriously. I was even around tumblr when this shit happened.
I didn't think the fancast would be real until Filoni jumped on twitter and followed Rosario Dawson after some Ahsoka fangirls kept pushing her. It's weird that they never gave better actors a chance. Plus there were no plans for a live action series back then.
No wonder I haven't heard about anybody wanting her, only rabid tumblr homosexuals did.
Also,
>unironically admitting to being from tumblr
>EUgays run a massive interconnected franchise for 40 years without ruining it
>Disney needs to abandon ship in less than 10 because they fricked up too hard
>without ruining it
Kek. You haven't even read that shit.
NJO is fricking kino and I won't pretend it isn't.
run a massive interconnected franchise for 40 years without ruining it
Buddy the EU retconned fricking A New Hope not even a full year after it released, did you never read Splinter of the Mind's Eye?
How?
Patiently waiting for that one Filonigay to come here and defend this.
>*insert textwall about how it was all part of George Lucas' vision all along complete with outdated quotes and how we all hate Filoni because we're manchildren and EUgays*
>Anti-Filonigays read a clickbait title from a news website nobody knows about, takes it as absolute gospel and doesn't bother validating the authenticity of it months before the show is even out.
>actor makes dumb remarks
>journalists eat it up
based the sequels are going to stop being canon
>they make the sequels a different multiverse
>but they introduce other multiverses
>one where Obi-Wan and Anakin are gay for each other
>one where everyone important dies and are replaced by blacks and women
>one where Ahsoka, Padme and Rey team up for the ultimate #girlboss moment
>these will impact and influence the way the "canon" universe is
You're so short sighted it's laughable.
anon i'm optimistic
The majority of fans in 2015 were optimistic about TFA and look how that turned out.
You know better.
so timeline reset?
its the only way, and the 20-40 something tards who are upset about it, wont matter when the next generation comes.
>he thinks there'll be a new generation of Disney Star Wars fans
Hearty kek
>kek
damn i'm in 2015 again? let me check the calendar
>"y-you can't say kek now!!!"
Really? That's the route you want to take?
what's up with these samegaygin?
>omg this Cinemaphile thread is not bussin. it should be slappin
hearty kek
>he thinks there'll be a new generation of Disney Star Wars fans
hearty frfr
Star Wars: Flashpoint?
abandon thread, trannies arrived
noice. this mexican who worships white men left the thread.
worse, redditors arrived
cuck wars was already dead since episode 7
you tell em, pedro! aint no one know more than a angry brown on Cinemaphile!
No amount of time travel and parallel dimensions could fix Disney wars.
Are they going to do a Star Wars and marvel multiverse crossover or something?
one day. multiverse is a thing on steam. fortnite endless crossovers.
oh its totally happening one day.
And she is dancing now!
Her feet are light and nimble. She never loses. They say that she will never die. She is always jumping out of danger. She spinflips and leaps in light and in shadow and she is a great favorite. She never loses, Ahsoka. She is dancing, dancing. They say that she will never die!
Everybody was predicting it ever since the show's logo was displayed, that being a gateway to the World Between Worlds. It's obvious Disney will use it to decanonise the Sequels.
>but muh novels and comics
The Bad Batch has already proven they're more than willing to decanonise those at a moment's notice.
>The Bad Batch has already proven they're more than willing to decanonise those at a moment's notice.
How so?
They changed Kanan Jared's back story, which was already depicted in his own - actually good - comic series.
homie why do you read star wars comics?
The first Darth Vader series is actually good.
idk doctor aphra is kinda cringe
A comic book isn't the same as a 4 billion trilogy.
>Disney will use it to decanonise the Sequels
i don't know anon a lot of journos and cucks would frickin riot if this happens and disney listen to those morons
The point of a multiverse is more to eliminate the concept of "one canon" altogether; if it's true, they likely believe they can get the classic fanbase back on board with a mixture of "see, we take *your* Star Wars seriously as well, we made it part of the Star Wars Canon Multiverse!" and naked pandering slop like the Obi-wan show, *without* TRIGGERING the twitterhags and pretendy-journos.
It doesn't seem to have occurred to them that the latter will see through their efforts and know they can gain social capital/clicks by denouncing "obvious pandering to racist chudcels!" or that the former might consider the EU being officially placed on the same level as the Sequels just as much of an insult as it being deleted, even if technically the Sequels are being dragged down to the EU's level.
Although thinking about it, I could be underestimating Lucasfilm, they could be *really* committed to crashing the brand with no survivors and would use a multiverse concept as an excuse to even further denigrate the classic films and their characters by telling "new versions" of those stories where all their "Luke was a feckless loser who did nothing of consequence, the Star War was won by a succession of kickass snarky girlbosses!" fantasies are made real.
At this point, who the frick knows what they're thinking.
The irony of ironies is that every single female that I know of hates what they did to Luke and either hates (or has totally forgotten about) girlboss Rey Palpatine. So who the frick are these new movies actually for??
>decanonise the sequels and Nu Wars
>return to EU
>after two months EU already looks like Nu Wars
I see no victory here without changing the writers and heads of Lucasfilm
I'll be happy if they decide to retcon away the entire ST. I know it's petty but frick it I just don't care. They already did away with the EU, might as well get rid of that shit too and stick with the spinoff films/shows.
i just watched an episode or 2 of obiwan as part of my rehab program , i think i'm doing good and will be able to totally skip whatever is coming next. unless it got that scrappy cool old space civilization pulp spirit of t he original and got rave reviews by actual fans... but what are the odds it gonna happen: i presume if it happens i will hear about it.
>part of my rehab program
damn anon i'm sorry for you
i was joking a bit, but i did see pretty much every st ar wars shit since didney happened on the scene. except cartoons, even an addict got some dignity.
the cartoons are only good in parts but are mostly shit
>except cartoons
I hope that doesn't exclude the original Clone Wars, that one was very good. The rest you should skip though.
Jesus Christ frick off just set it a thousand years later or whatever. Nips already did this right.
i didn't like weeb wars though, specially the bunny episode
>Star Wars Multiverse
fml
no more sequels look at the bright side
seethe disneygays
ST is getting retconned and there is nothing you can do about it
EUchads won
Who is MEW playing as?
Hera
Puta
>they still think gayloni would decanonize the shitquels
why they try make star wars like marvel? remember when star wars was bigger than marvel
Mando reinforced the sequels morons
Are we ready to admit he was always a problem?
Yes. As soon the clone wars movie came out it was clear Star Wars was only going to get worse.
w-what the frick?
Remember disneytroons main argument for erasing the previous canon was that it had become messy and full of dumb ideas?
i hope you impressed a mexican who worships white men, bro
what's that even supposed to mean
im not surprised a Hispanic like you didnt understand.
It's funny how most of the contradictions in both were caused by the same furry.
what's that even supposed to mean
>multiverse
Well that was pretty obvious. Remember how Boba Fett had a completely different origin story before Attack of the Clones came out? Or remember how General Grievous was basically a slasher movie villain and then Episode III came out and he became a weak sniveling pussy?
Star Wars isn't a cohesive story. It's more like Transformers or Ninja Turtles where you can have multiple versions of the same character.
Why yes, I remember when the EU tweaked Boba's story to fit in with AotC and how Grievous was given a reason to why he acted the way he did in RotS.
That's just retcons
Multiverse is too broad. We should use a term that expands the setting but doesn't cheapen it. Maybe some kind of expanded universe???
Expanded universe is a different matter though. In EU you are expected to believe that everything happened in the same timeline, and all inconsistencies are just mistakes or deliberate retcons. Multiverse is basically there's a parallel timeline somewhere where it's true. But I have never seen this idea ever used well. Admittedly I'm a follower of the everything is canon onto itself and nothing else school.
I know the distinction, anon.
What I mean is they had a universe ready to go that just needed some tidying up and streamlining to undo retcons and shit. Disneed chose the route of pain and greed.
I TOLD YOU Black folk BUT NOBODY BELIEVED ME
THEN THAT homosexual DOOMwiener STOLE MY IDEA AND RUINED IT
I want you to be right so much right now. I don't know why I'm getting so sick for a stupid movie franchise, but I am.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
No.
Filoni is one of them.
cope and s(n)ee(d)the
>(consooming intensifies)
>when you dont know how to racebait
You're the one coping, the ST will always be Disney canon.
am I reading that right? has he never seen a mother figure be the hero in a story?
You are moronic to think that anyone involved in disney nu-wars is smart enough to pull off something like that. and even if they did, there's no indication that Filoni can make anything decent under disney. Mando was shit, so was Boba and Kenobi. They can make a thousand universes and they'd all be the same garbage. The reason that Mando contradicts the sequel trilogy is because they're all completely fricking incompetent, it's a sign of them not caring about their own lore, nothing else. If you're going to have a star wars canon that makes sense then you have to exclude everything disney-related. It's over.
That's a way forward for the franchise. They fricked up one universe already. But this makes it possible for the old EU to exist. Look at the different Batmans, we can watch whatever and it works because they are independent universes.
i hope they add a female twi'lek force user
>a way forward
see
ah frick me
Why did they have to pick such a manface to play her?? b***h looks like Handsome Squidward.
Multiverse is the worst idea since time travel. Why do I care about what happens if the hero wins and loses in an infinite amount of other universes? Nothing matters if there are infinite universes and everything can happen.
>Why do I care
brown and mad. classic trope
Welcome to why nobody gives a frick about the MCU anymore.
They could frick it up with some Marvel style shit about hopping between different universes, but multiple timelines doesn't have to be inherently bad.
Like, suppose Ahsoka finally finds Thrawn/Ezra at the edge of known space, but it turns out that instead of some diabolical plot, Thrawn is preparing a fleet to head out past the edge of the galaxy to build a new civilization somewhere out there in the unknown. Thrawn offers Ahsoka the chance to join them, but she knows that this would mean she could never return to help Luke rebuild the Jedi order. Ahsoka meditates on the choice and sees a vision of the future where she accepts Thrawn's offer, in which she is the founder of a new force tradition free from the ancient Jedi/Sith feud, but back in the galaxy, the events of the Sequel Trilogy have taken place, with Luke failing and becoming a bitter old hermit, the New Republic falling into chaos, etc.
So Ahsoka declines Thrawn's offer and returns to Luke, creating the possibility for a different future where the Jedi are restored instead of ending with Kylo's school shooter moment.
Mostly this.
Kathleen broke the covenant with the fans when she intentionally trashed George Lucas’s outline for the ST (to say nothing of betraying and humiliating her mentor). George wanted Episode 9 to end with Leia as Chancellor of the New Republic and Luke as Grand Master of the New Jedi Order. That was the story, that HIS story of the Skywalker Saga. And Kathleen ignored it and rewrote the story to turn Leia and Luke into losers and failures. It’s unfrickingforgivable and ruins the entire Saga. This controversy will never be over until they figure out a way to fix it. If it takes Ashoka seeing a multiverse and changing things I’m fine with it
>This controversy will never be over until they figure out a way to fix it. If it takes Ashoka seeing a multiverse and changing things I’m fine with it
I will never understand why people will allow themselves to wade and wallow through so much shit for some self-fullfilling outcome that's clearly not going to happen.
You're just lying to yourselves.
>George wanted Episode 9 to end with Leia as Chancellor of the New Republic and Luke as Grand Master of the New Jedi Order.
Kek. Is that what Doomwiener told you?
Doomwiener is a fricking liar and a fraud and the Lucas Outline for 7-9 have been out there for LITERAL FRICKING YEARS now. How dumb are you?
>Lucas Outline for 7-9 have been out there for LITERAL FRICKING YEARS now.
You mean those obvious fake photographed pages from the
>fricking liar and fraud
?
Are you crazy or a shill?
>t. doomwiener
Ok, so you’re a crazy shill.
>multiverse
This is the plot twist I didn't know I needed.
translation
>we want to create any random garbage we can think up and smugly assure the consumer we "care about the canon"
They absolutely should embrace a multiverse. Millions of people fricking detest the “Sequel” Trilogy like a cancer. As much as they publicly deny it, internally Lucasfilm knows the ST is a massive ongoing problem for them.
It's completely pointless to declare a multiverse unless you want every canon to acknowledge every other canon. Different canons already existed within the EU, and even now we have the major Canon/Legends split. People can understand well enough that they are separate things without some bullshit in-universe explanation of multiple worlds.
>It's completely pointless to declare a multiverse unless you want every canon to acknowledge every other canon.
What? This is the dumbest thing that I’ve ever read.
The only difference between having multiple canons, which is what we currently have, and having a multiverse, is that the latter bridges the different canons. Why would you want that?
Kathleen doesn’t acknowledge the EU (“Legends”) as its own viable universe/ canon. That’s the problem. They outright say that it didn’t happen. Even just doing the bare minimum thing and announcing that “Legends” is its own viable universe in a Star Wars Multiverse, and opening up that timeline for future media development might work towards bringing some of the fandom back.
If that was the motivation behind this move, I would agree with you. But if you ask me, going this far to open Legends back up again sounds unlikely. If anything Disney would just use this move to turn Star Wars into the equivalent of a gacha game.
Multiverse stuff can be awesome like it was in the MCU and No way home. But the people making things in Lucasfilm are such bad creatives that they're going to waste it.
>Multiverse
How the frick is that going to work?
I actually think this is a good idea, if it's their way of making the EU cannon again. They fricked up 90% of what they've come up with since the buyout and pissed off the fans who actually spend money, so this could be their escape hatch out. That way, leftists can have incel Luke and Mary Ray Sue, while normal old school fans can have Mara Jade and bad ass Luke.
I’ve always thought that this was the simplest, most obvious thing to do. Star Wars lost MILLIONS of fans over the last 10 years through their mediocre, chaotic, illogical, mean-spirited story decisions. And they have made very few new fans to replace those they lost. This puts in Lucasfilm in a kind of demographic death spiral.
Why not try to bring these people (disaffected fans) back?? There are billions of dollars in potential revenue if you gave them their own universe to play in.
>This puts in Lucasfilm in a kind of demographic death spiral.
So like contemporary Russia?
Exactly like Russia.
What will be Disney's Ukraine moment? And will it be anywhere near as kino?
I’d say if Kennedy goes for the multiverse route in Ashoka that would be her power play or “Ukraine” moment. It would be a bold move to ensure that the Star Wars Empire survives its demographic death spiral, and it would probably work. Otherwise she’ll just let the decline happen and go into exile in a few years
>and it would probably work.
Eh, I have doubts about that. The reason it works in Marvel and DC is because they've been around for 80 years (US soldiers were literally reading the same comics during World War II) and have always had to constantly retcon shit and multiversing as just a mechanism to prevent the fanbase from hemorrhaging.
Star Wars had been around for a little under 50 years and its major strength was the relative maintaining of a singular continuity from start to finish.
You're right, it's bold, but it seems more likely to backfire after being widely recognized as an attempt by Kathleen "less brains than John F." Kennedy to avoid being held responsible for her own poor decisions.
>Star Wars had been around for a little under 50 years and its major strength was the relative maintaining of a singular continuity from start to finish.
This no longer a strength at all. The mere fact that millions of fans beg for a multiverse is proof positive that what was once a strength is now a severe, likely fatal, weakness
>millions of fans beg for a multiverse
No, what they're begging for is for the Sequels and anything related to them to be retconned. Not for the Star Wars Universe to be fragmented into 20 different universes.
>20
That’s an arbitrary number. People just want to re-engage with the story. They hate the current story
thats what a multiverse is
thats what the EU was, and everybody and their grandmothers have been crying "give us back the EU!" for nearly 10 Goddamn years
The EU never retconned a movie trilogy.
it sure as hell tried
If you're talking about Dark Empire then you're wrong since George liked it.
When?
Jack Kennedy made some very good decisions in his life. He was a pretty clever guy with very good instincts. He just made one fatal mistake
2012 was lucas selling the franchise and the underhanded dealings that went on during that period. the invasion was killing the canon. and now just like the real war, it will go on painfully for as long as possible to draw in the most money and weapons to turn the country into an endless war society that only exists to give money to the war economy.
>bring back EU
Nah frick that, I'd rather see Disney be financially ruined to the point of bankruptcy and the whole company collapses. Maybe George can buy back the IP for pennies on the dollar at the liquidation sale.
I want to see a multiverse Vader who has no light left in him whatsoever.
Probably one where he won his duel against Obi-Wan and he eventually became the most powerful Sith of all time.
moronic and all, BUT if it's used to sidetrack the sequel trilogy then it's based.
What was the most recent piece of content the Sequel trilogy had? The Galactic Starcruiser?
The Lego game, I think.
spiderverse was awsome,
hollywood please stop fricking with it, jesus .. it was the 1 good super hero movie in a long time
Frick off Black personverse
I've never liked gayloni fanfiction. Such a blatant fricking attempt to continue milking the IP. Star Wars should have ended with Revenge of the Sith.
Too bad, it was George Lucas' "fanfiction."
I believe in Filoni
Clone Wars and Rebels are KINOS
>170 replies in
>no source to OP's claim
>Cinemaphile yet again took low hanging bait, and argues about nothing
The Sequels are never going away. Give up now.
Try Google, Rosario Dawson made a “multiverse” comment in relation to her show. It’s on many sites. As far as the corporate Sequels “going away” that’s not what people here are asserting. Only that a “multiverse” or alternative timeline gets acknowledged and perhaps utilized down the road
Rebellions are built on hope!
They're going to soft-retcon Rise of Skywalker by reviving Ben Solo and revealing that Luke had a son.
is going to save Star W-
It's time to come to terms with the truth, they got Filoni bros, they may have found some dirty laundry and now Filoni is going to make his shows woke.
It's over.
see
aren't they doing thrawn in this series? it can actually be kino
We already knew they were setting this up when Ezra saved her from vader via time travel. lmao.
The Last Jedi was actually the best way forward if they weren't going to go the EU route, in terms of actually advancing the story and themes. The problem is it was a shit movie tied to the shit sequel trilogy.
Luke himself recognizing the true nature of the Force and the way in which his father brought balance, by destroying both the Sith AND the Jedi, and that he was making a mistake by trying to ressurect the order and restore the dichotomy, would be kino.
Unfortunately Johnson was obsessed with making Luke pathetic and old and having the plot be godfricking-awful.
They could have done so many interesting things with the Last Jedi both philosophically and narratively. Instead they went with Kathy’s goal of humiliating and degrading and destroying Luke so people would accept Rey as the new “face of the franchise.” But it’s because they went in this particular direction that NOBODY will now accept Rey as anything but an OP dead end.
>Luke himself recognizing the true nature of the Force and the way in which his father brought balance, by destroying both the Sith AND the Jedi, and that he was making a mistake by trying to ressurect the order and restore the dichotomy, would be kino.
Are you suggesting the Gray Jedi theme?
I think he is suggesting the surgical removal of all Force users from SW.
No, Luke was creating an entirely new philosophy and Order of the Force. Something that George Lucas literally intended for him to do since the start of the Saga.
>No, Luke was creating an entirely new philosophy and Order of the Force.
They definitely fricked that up when they had him go with Jedi orthodoxy when Grogu came around.
>the Lucas Outline for 7-9 have been out there for LITERAL FRICKING YEARS now.
Yeah. Disney followed the broad strokes of Lucas' outline for Luke in the plot. He was even supposed to die in his Episode 8.
No, they didn’t. Luke survived in the Lucas Trilogy
Pablo Hidalgo said otherwise, but Mark Hamill contradicted him and said that Luke was going to die in 9.
>Pablo Hidalgo
LOL
Well, it proves that someone is bullshitting somewhere.
George Lucas says one thing. Post-merger, affirmative action, Woke religion-worshiping, corporate soldier Pablo Hidalgo says another in an attempt to justify the decision that destroyed Lucasfilm as the massive online backlash was building.
Gee, I wonder which one I should believe.
That fat cuck is not to be trusted.
Different anon but I think the jedi should be more like Jack Reacher
>I think the jedi should be more like Jack Reacher
Wandering heroes? That would keep them from getting slaughtered again.
I'm suggesting the synthesis of ideals presented in kotor 2. Even Lucas knew that the ego-death of the Jedi wasn't the way to go, and the Sith just get consumed and become evil slaves.
Any serious sequel movies would need to unify these concepts into a new idea and actually explain what the Force is (and there is a good explanation).
Luke redeeming his father with love is a good jumping off point because such a thing isn't actually very Jedi.
>Luke redeeming his father with love is a good jumping off point because such a thing isn't actually very Jedi.
I thought the Jedi were supposed to feel some kind of Jesus-like love for all living things?
Yes, but that was specifically familial love, which they disavow.
What is the relationship between master and padawan then? When you put a child in someone's care for 10+ and make sure that they live together, train together, meditate together and effectively forbid even a sibling or second parent-like figure entering the picture familial love is pretty much bound to happen.
to be fair if it like startrek containt the bullshit of the sequel in its own universe/timeline whatever it would an improvment. could even a chance for the EU comicbook adaption, tough it will might will ruin them by making them woke
filoni cucks need to be executed along with anyone still engaging with disney wars
Remember: Tube-top Ahsoka no longer has perky boobs.
I dunno bro, watching TCW right now and I have to disagree.
That's peak Ahsoka: they changed her outfit in Season 3, gave her a horse-face for Rebels and turned her into a 80's Chicago Bears linebacker in the live action series.
Movie and season 1-2 Ahsoka is my favorite for sure, but 3-6 is definitely still hot as frick. Season 7 is overrated as frick. Rebels is just garbage all around, no one looks good in it.
Which was worse in Rebels: Ken-Doll Anakin or Smooth-Frog Yoda?
Smooth Yoda is just nightmare fuel. But downs syndrome Bo-Katan is almost worse.
Pure sex.
The face you make when you discover your slave outfit is less revealing than the one you regularly use.
Pleasant surprise mixed with "wait, was I really almost naked this whole time?"
I love how everyone was obsessed with her lips.
Goddamn, she's so fricking sexy.
I really hope we get a lot more of her in Tales of the Jedi.
What happened to Barris?
She turned to the dark side and was imprisoned on Coruscant. No idea what happened after the fall of the Republic.
I can imagine Palpatine paying her a visit in prison and telling her "you were right about everything lol", so she spends the next 30 years spreading PALPATINE IS A SITH LORD theories on the holonet.
Just waiting for the flood of orange dicky pics this episode will create and promote.
How in the everloving name of frick do Togrutas give birth? Look a the head of that baby and the hips of (what I suppose is) the mother. Unless they come from eggs, it is physically impossible for one to come out of the other.
>Their bones could be soft!
Yeah, but they should be hard enough to protect the softer, more important organs on the babies head. This isn't toothpaste we're talking about here.
the headtails don't have bones in them, they're squishy flesh like boobs
I just hope it shows all of her growing up and not just that. I'm not into toddlers, man.
I can see Palpy being so sadistic as to reveal all the secrets to her but knowing that no one will ever believe her.
Don't you want to see little Ahsoka play around in the grass with other Togruta kids? I would like to see something else than "the stoic teenage that is in the middle of a galaxy spanning war" for a change.
Besides, she's supposed to go barefoot, since Togrutas (or at least the ones living in Shlli) supposedly hate wearing shoes.
>Don't you want to see little Ahsoka play around in the grass with other Togruta kids?
Oh, yeah, of course I'd wanna see what her life was like before she was "recruited", and all that. I just don't want lewds of her as a *baby.*
That fivehead is CUTE!
um whats the age of consent in the galactic republic
yeah, they're called "straights", foreign concept to you I'm sure
Yeah, straight lovers of trash.
Feels good to be normal.
>Multiverse
ars
This is how they retcon the sequels. Dave is unironically going to save Star Wars
Haha no
>TCW
>Rebels
>Solo
>Rogue One
>Mandalorian
>"good timeline"
The sequels will never be retconned. I don't know why they bother you, they're just as bad as the rest of nu Wars.
>Multiverse
JUST STOP STOP WITH THIS SHIT
I ONLY WANT TO FOCUS ON ONE UNIVERSE NOT FRICKING UNIVERSE No214253 or No 21432150 STOP INTRODUCING ME TO THIS SHITTY ASS CONCEPT
>EU reprints don't sell as well
Yeah, that's why they're still doing that EU essential collection thing. Fricking disneytard.
Wow, wasn't it enough with the homosexual timetravel in Rebels?
>ahsokautists got asshurt and reported my post
TCWzoomers can't handle anything that challenges them.
so much russian bot seething itt. and now apparently they're targeting mexico which has been on the fence and neutral
slava Ukrajina!
>Disney is collecting data on what EU material sells the most
What Yidsney+ series are they going to shit up next bros?
I torrented Obi Wan when it came out and still haven't watched it, downloaded the show before it too and didn't watch that either.
Think I'm done with this shit entirely.
Don’t bother. Star Wars is dead. All roads lead to Rey Sue Palpatine, a “character” that even SJWs give 0.0 fricks about. It’s a dead brand with a terrible story.
Filoni has unironically done more damage to Star Wars than Kathleen Kennedy, JJ Abrams, and Rian Johnson. He's been behind all of it. George Lucas trusted him, and he destroyed his entire legacy.
How?
because it makes his butt hurt because Filoni got to be an ascended fanboy while all the edgy manchildren who whine about him didn't
>They are just going to strip mine the old EU and fling elements into these new shows while also using the new shows to try and re-contextualise the sequels to make normalgays think any of this is good
>They are just going to strip mine the old EU
the EU was already doing that with itself
I hate Zahn’s attempts to make nu Thrawn sympathetic.
Did you miss the og thrawn books or what? He was already doing that at least as early as the Hand of Thrawn duology
Duology gave Thrawn a deeper motivation, but it didn’t change the fact that in the original book trilogy he killed subordinates, tortured prisoners, reneged on deals, and was honestly an butthole to Mara.
New Thrawn has literally never done anything wrong in the books other than have space autism. I’m reading the first Ascendency book now and he gives pep talks to little girls and plays cards to pass the time.
All old characters (who aren’t white males) have been randomly turned good by Woke Wars. Boba Fett, Thrawn, etc.
What is there actually to like about Corporate Star Wars??
Thrawn was a wasted character originally though, in that his franchise impact far outweighed his actual pagetime.
Pornsick Ahsokagays are on par with sequelgays for the most annoying Star Wars fans.
This could actually be the only thing that could fix SWINO at this point. Retcon all of the woke trash and move forward. Seriously doubt they will do it though.
Who am I kidding, it's dead and it was dead the moment the disney grooming company go a hold of it.
>My black baby has been taken by white slavers. - George Lucas
Is the Ahsoka novel worth reading?
It's ok. But there's not a lot of action. It's pretty slow and meditative, it's more about trauma, PTSD, guilt and recovering from it to find a new purpose. If you're interested in what Ahsoka was doing after order 66, how she got recruited into the rebellion, and how she got her white sabers, then go ahead.
The problem with Ashoka is that she really lacks flaws or a proper character arc. I will say that Ashoka is 2000% more likable than Rey Palpatine, however what actually is her story about? Being really nice and good all the time??
The truly great characters actually have flaws, and growth. That’s what makes them compelling
Low-tier bait.
Yeah, that's kinda what I want. I saw her in action in TCW, I want something that's more inwards to her as a character.
Welp. If it's only minor I'll still check it out.
Ahsoka does absolutely have growth. Maybe not a complete arc, but growth. Her in TCW season 1 and season 6 and 7 is like night and day.
I think it's retconned by TCW's last season, lol.
Not really, only some details on one page with flashbacks about The Siege of Mandalore. The actual body of the novel, that is post-Order 66 story, has not been touched (yet).
God damn it. Star Worz was always shit, on release, it was a joke. Not until way later did you homosexual start licking Geroge lucas fat veiny wiener to completion
>stop liking what i dont like abloo bloo bloo!