if the show is popular, then it doesnt really matter, chud
>if you dont like le popular mainstream boring shit...yu ar le...le chud xd
Why do words lose their meanings as time goes on, what a postmodern hellhole this site has become
Mando Season 3 debuted with 1 episode and had 16 additional episodes that count for a total of 823M Hrs (the New Episode generated 57% so ~470M according to Nielsen at the time)
Ahsoka debuted with 2 episodes and 829M Hrs
7 months ago
Anonymous
what's the relevance of this, what plot point does it analyze?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Ummm Maulerbros? Robotheadbros? Our narrative is falling apart!
7 months ago
Anonymous
7 months ago
Anonymous
No, only slightly worse than Obi-Wan (a character from the legendary movies that everyone knows about, as opposed to a character that originated in animation), with Obi having 958 million hours in two episodes.
7 months ago
Anonymous
958 million minutes*
7 months ago
Anonymous
No. Ashoka’s audience numbers are 30-40% lower than Obi-WAN’s.
Also, Disney Plus has 10 million more subscribers now than May 2022. So in per capita terms, Ashoka is even lower than 30-40% below Obi-Wan. The show is underperforming
7 months ago
Anonymous
Me.. I might watch a video or two that analyze symbolism and plot.
You? Waste hours discussing marketing, defending corporations, watching gossip videos.
We're not the same.
7 months ago
Anonymous
7 months ago
Anonymous
>grifter YouTube shit
Concession accepted. I linked the actual source with actual data, you linked trash. Unlucky. Try better next time, stupid mutt.
what relevance does it have to the discussion about the content of the show?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>ITS SUPER POPULAR!! >Here's proof that it's not. >W-WELL WHAT IF I MOVE THE GOALPOST AND TALK ABOUT ITS QUALITY OR SOME SHIT!
Keep in mind, this is what was replied to
[...]
It's the second highest watched Star Wars show, what are you talking about?
Please tell the thread where that post mentions anything about the "content of the show."
7 months ago
Anonymous
Talk about the show.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Why are you moving the goalpost?
You said it was popular. Now that has been disproven you're... saying we should talk about the show?
Why did you lie about the popularity of the show in the first place if you want to talk about the show?
And if you say "talk about the show" one more time, that will be your concession. Might as well not reply if that's all you have.
7 months ago
Anonymous
what does popularity have to do with the content of the show?
7 months ago
Anonymous
Because you brought it up
[...]
It's the second highest watched Star Wars show, what are you talking about?
[...]
It's the second highest watched Star Wars show, what are you talking about?
[...]
It's the second highest watched Star Wars show, what are you talking about?
[...]
It's the second highest watched Star Wars show, what are you talking about?
It's a nice series when you're a toddler that never experienced anything else from the franchise.
Needless retcons, flippant inconsistencies, spending valuable time to flesh out a character that does not exist anywhere else but the cartoon and has no impact on the films, character assassinations, flanderizations, an overly-lighthearted tone that's too childish and safe for even the main demographic of Star Wars until it wants to be serious and comes off as bipolar and tone deaf.
I could go on. And Lucas being deeply involved is a myth, he took more of a passive role in throwing out ideas and letting other people do the work while he was focused on his own projects and other films like Red Tails and Indy 4, Filoni himself even alludes to this in how he approached directing Resistance.
It's all a mess.
>And Lucas being deeply involved is a myth
Lying, seething, butthurt EUtrannoid, lmao.
>"I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the games, toys and books, and all that other stuff. I call that the son - and the son does pretty much what he wants.” He laughs. “Once in a while, they ask a question like ‘Can we kill off Yoda?’, things like that, but it’s very loose. Then we have the third group, the holy ghost, which is the bloggers and fans. They have created their own world. I worry about the father’s world. The son and holy ghost can go their own way."-George Lucas: Mr Emperor strikes back
>George Lucas: We’ve been doing this for three years. We have one year finished, we’re in the middle of the second year. I’ve written the third year. We expect this to go on for at least five or six years.
>George Lucas: I haven’t limited myself with what stories I’ve wanted to tell; this is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between [The Clone Wars] series and the films. It’s just a different format and a different delivery.
>Furthermore, there would be no cherry-picking the series; a network had to take all twenty-two episodes or lose out altogether. “It’s much easier for me to just do the show I want, [then] say, ‘Here it is, do you wish to license it or not?’” Lucas said with only a hint of exasperation. “That’s it. There’s no notes, no comments. I don’t care what your opinion is. You either put it on the air or you don’t.”—George Lucas, A Life
>Furthermore, there would be no cherry-picking the series; a network had to take all twenty-two episodes or lose out altogether. “It’s much easier for me to just do the show I want, [then] say, ‘Here it is, do you wish to license it or not?’” Lucas said with only a hint of exasperation. “That’s it. There’s no notes, no comments. I don’t care what your opinion is. You either put it on the air or you don’t.”—George Lucas
I fricking kneel
Everything you just described can easily be said about Disney.
I seriously have no idea how people are so unaware that half the shit they get mad at Disney for was prevalent in that fricking cartoon.
It also fricked up the EU big time.
When people say the EU was a mess, they're usually using talking points from when >TCW >SWTOR >Denningverse
and >TFU
Came on the scene and shit everything up. By the end of the PT, the EU was mostly consistent, though it definitely didn't start that way.
EU was never canon. Can't frick up what was never canon. It was a parallel universe, like Star Trek TV and Star Trek novels. They are completely separate from each other. It was just merchandise.
7 months ago
Anonymous
It saved Star Wars in the 90s and Lucas constantly worked in tandem with the authors, even incorporating their content into the PT, but you already knew this.
Seems you just don't like Star Wars, and that's sad.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>It saved Star Wars in the 90s
Star Wars never needed saving. Star Wars is the single biggest film series in the history of mankind. You are a delusional fanboy, who tries to justify all those hours he wasted on low-effort merchandise, that has got nothing to do with the actual Star Wars. >Lucas constantly worked in tandem with the authors, even incorporating their content into the PT
No, he didn't. He gave advice when approached (though, usually through the middle-men in Lucas Licencing, like Howard Roffman - he rarely worked with anyone in the licensing directly), but it was still just that... merchandise. He did, however, take some ideas that he liked, like the design of Aayla Secura, and he would have taken the design of Darth Talon. Though that doesn't make their stories canon. >Seems you just don't like Star Wars, and that's sad.
I like Lucas' Star Wars - the actual Star Wars. You are a rabid consoomer, that gobbles everything with a SW label on it. And now you have a Stockholm syndrome, and run around trying to justify all that time you'd wasted.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>Star Wars never needed saving
It did in the 90s. >He gave advice when approached
So... working in tandem with the authors, like I said.
You're pretty bad at this.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>It did in the 90s.
It didn't. Star Wars is the biggest movie series in the history of mankind. More people saw the special editions in theaters than anything the EU has ever made. Your silly little fanfic books never mattered, and 1% of the consoomers can't "save" (and don't need to) a multimillion movie franchise. >So... working in tandem with the authors, like I said.
He really didn't. And it didn't matter, anyway.
See:
When did he say it? And, regardless, even if he did - it was still a parallel universe, irrelevant to his own.
>“Whatever it is that happens afterward,” the 63-year-old filmmaker said, “that isn’t the core ‘Star Wars’ story that I like to tell.” “There really isn’t any story to tell there,” the filmmaker said. “It’s been covered in the books and video games and comic books, which are things I think are incredibly creative but that I don’t really have anything to do with other than being the person who built the sandbox they’re playing in.” “I get asked all the time, ‘What happens after “Return of the Jedi”?,’ and there really is no answer for that,” he said. “The movies were the story of Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker, and when Luke saves the galaxy and redeems his father, that’s where that story ends.” - George Lucas, George Lucas: ‘Star Wars’ won’t go beyond Darth Vader
>ComingSoon.net: Do you think you’d have other people continue the “Star Wars” saga past “Episode VI” or turn some of the other material into films? >George Lucas: But there’s no story past “Episode VI”, there’s just no story. It’s a certain story about Anakin Skywalker and once Anakin Skywalker dies, that’s kind of the end of the story. There is no story about Luke Skywalker, I mean apart from the books. But there’s three worlds: There’s my world that I made up, there’s the licensing world that’s the books, the comics, all that kind of stuff, the games, which is their world, and then there’s the fans’ world, which is also very rich in imagination, but they don’t always mesh. All I’m in charge of is my world. I can’t be in charge of those other people’s world, because I can’t keep up with it. - George Lucas, Exclusive: A Rare Sit-Down with Mr. George Lucas
>It saved Star Wars in the 90s
Star Wars never needed saving. Star Wars is the single biggest film series in the history of mankind. You are a delusional fanboy, who tries to justify all those hours he wasted on low-effort merchandise, that has got nothing to do with the actual Star Wars. >Lucas constantly worked in tandem with the authors, even incorporating their content into the PT
No, he didn't. He gave advice when approached (though, usually through the middle-men in Lucas Licencing, like Howard Roffman - he rarely worked with anyone in the licensing directly), but it was still just that... merchandise. He did, however, take some ideas that he liked, like the design of Aayla Secura, and he would have taken the design of Darth Talon. Though that doesn't make their stories canon. >Seems you just don't like Star Wars, and that's sad.
I like Lucas' Star Wars - the actual Star Wars. You are a rabid consoomer, that gobbles everything with a SW label on it. And now you have a Stockholm syndrome, and run around trying to justify all that time you'd wasted.
EU was never canon. Can't frick up what was never canon. It was a parallel universe, like Star Trek TV and Star Trek novels. They are completely separate from each other. It was just merchandise.
>And Lucas being deeply involved is a myth
Lying, seething, butthurt EUtrannoid, lmao.
>"I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the games, toys and books, and all that other stuff. I call that the son - and the son does pretty much what he wants.” He laughs. “Once in a while, they ask a question like ‘Can we kill off Yoda?’, things like that, but it’s very loose. Then we have the third group, the holy ghost, which is the bloggers and fans. They have created their own world. I worry about the father’s world. The son and holy ghost can go their own way."-George Lucas: Mr Emperor strikes back
>George Lucas: We’ve been doing this for three years. We have one year finished, we’re in the middle of the second year. I’ve written the third year. We expect this to go on for at least five or six years.
>George Lucas: I haven’t limited myself with what stories I’ve wanted to tell; this is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between [The Clone Wars] series and the films. It’s just a different format and a different delivery.
>Furthermore, there would be no cherry-picking the series; a network had to take all twenty-two episodes or lose out altogether. “It’s much easier for me to just do the show I want, [then] say, ‘Here it is, do you wish to license it or not?’” Lucas said with only a hint of exasperation. “That’s it. There’s no notes, no comments. I don’t care what your opinion is. You either put it on the air or you don’t.”—George Lucas, A Life
You're pretty good at coping, however.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>It didn't.
But it did. >He really didn't
But you said as much, so now not only are you calling and proving yourself to be a liar, you're discrediting your own post referrals, while furthermore quoting someone who constantly changes his mind.
Galactic levels of cope and your concession has been considered, but returned because it's worthless.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>But it did.
It didn't. You've never proved it. Claiming that Star Wars - the biggest series of movies in the history of manking, the highest grossing film series ever conceived - needed saving, is a delusion of a schizophrenic. >But you said as much
Never did. Rarely giving some scarce input via the middle-men, while constantly acknowledging that "it's all very loose, parallel universe that I don't read, don't care about and that doesn't matter to my universe" is not "working in tandem." What kind of tandem is this? >Galactic levels of cope
That's you. Saying that Star Wars after the OT ever needed saving and that the EU ever mattered, lmao. Embarrassing. EUgays are the Qtards of Star Wars. You are unironically mentally ill.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Not even gonna read.
It did, it did, etc., etc.
Who lost? You did.
Now excuse me while I get back to sharing real Star Wars (EU, OT and PT) with my fellow Star Wars bros. You're more than welcome to join.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Concession accepted. Until then, still waiting on those proofs to any of your delusional claims (you don't have any).
7 months ago
Anonymous
I kneel, EUchad
7 months ago
Anonymous
The EU books, comics, and video games absolutely carried the brand through the 90s and without the money they were bringing in we probably wouldn't have gotten the prequel trilogy. As far as profitability the paperbacks were never going to make as much as a movie release, that's just the nature of books vs movies, like Jurassic Park's movie made more money than the book too, hell any book that's had a movie release can say that, but it's asinine to say the book had nothing to do with the success or building public interest.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>the book had nothing to do with the success or building public interest.
It didn't. The book audience is merely a fraction of the actual movie-going audience. It's a marginal error, literally, that barely matters in the grand scale of things. You can see it even on the pic you've posted. And those books were relatively successful BECAUSE they are Star Wars. Not the other way around, as you dumbfricks claim. The special editions theatrical releases and the PT were successful not because of irrelevant fanfic books, but because they are STAR WARS movies. Fanfic books were successful, because they had a STAR WARS logo on it, not the other way around. You are seriously low IQ.
7 months ago
Anonymous
This isn’t adjusted for inflation though.
A New Hope alone made $4 billion at the box office. Fix your graphic
7 months ago
Anonymous
It's not like if you keep the lump sum of money from a few decades ago it magically transforms into the value adjusted for inflation.
That person would've had to invest it back then and beat inflation year by year.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Holy shit, this is the dumbest post I’ve ever read in the history of this site. Ever. Holy frick
7 months ago
Anonymous
>I like Lucas' Star Wars - the actual Star Wars.
You sound like a boring hole.
The EU was always better than George.
7 months ago
Anonymous
>The EU was always better than George.
No. No, it really wasn't. It was putrid, derivative garbage.
Case in point: >Oola was a slave twi'lek dancers? Well, you see, ALL twi'leks are ACKCHYUALLY genetically predisposed to being slaves and dancers! >Boba Fett was a mercenary with colored armor? Well, you see, ALL Mandalorians are ACKCHYUALLY mercenaries with colored armor!
>Bothans died to provide the Rebels intel on the Death Star? Well, you see, ALL Bothans are spies!
7 months ago
Anonymous
You know George ripoff names wholesale from Edgar Rice Burroughs right?
7 months ago
Anonymous
>You are a delusional fanboy
Yea It's rare to find such a delusional person even on Cinemaphile, it's kind of shocking really.
7 months ago
Anonymous
George loved Shadows of the Empire.
7 months ago
Anonymous
When did he say it? And, regardless, even if he did - it was still a parallel universe, irrelevant to his own.
>“Whatever it is that happens afterward,” the 63-year-old filmmaker said, “that isn’t the core ‘Star Wars’ story that I like to tell.” “There really isn’t any story to tell there,” the filmmaker said. “It’s been covered in the books and video games and comic books, which are things I think are incredibly creative but that I don’t really have anything to do with other than being the person who built the sandbox they’re playing in.” “I get asked all the time, ‘What happens after “Return of the Jedi”?,’ and there really is no answer for that,” he said. “The movies were the story of Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker, and when Luke saves the galaxy and redeems his father, that’s where that story ends.” - George Lucas, George Lucas: ‘Star Wars’ won’t go beyond Darth Vader
>ComingSoon.net: Do you think you’d have other people continue the “Star Wars” saga past “Episode VI” or turn some of the other material into films? >George Lucas: But there’s no story past “Episode VI”, there’s just no story. It’s a certain story about Anakin Skywalker and once Anakin Skywalker dies, that’s kind of the end of the story. There is no story about Luke Skywalker, I mean apart from the books. But there’s three worlds: There’s my world that I made up, there’s the licensing world that’s the books, the comics, all that kind of stuff, the games, which is their world, and then there’s the fans’ world, which is also very rich in imagination, but they don’t always mesh. All I’m in charge of is my world. I can’t be in charge of those other people’s world, because I can’t keep up with it. - George Lucas, Exclusive: A Rare Sit-Down with Mr. George Lucas
7 months ago
Anonymous
>George Lucas: ‘Star Wars’ won’t go beyond Darth Vader
He changed his mind about everything but this is still funny to me.
7 months ago
Anonymous
Remember when Jedi where Samurai then boom!
Shaolin Monks.
It's a nice series when you're a toddler that never experienced anything else from the franchise.
Needless retcons, flippant inconsistencies, spending valuable time to flesh out a character that does not exist anywhere else but the cartoon and has no impact on the films, character assassinations, flanderizations, an overly-lighthearted tone that's too childish and safe for even the main demographic of Star Wars until it wants to be serious and comes off as bipolar and tone deaf.
I could go on. And Lucas being deeply involved is a myth, he took more of a passive role in throwing out ideas and letting other people do the work while he was focused on his own projects and other films like Red Tails and Indy 4, Filoni himself even alludes to this in how he approached directing Resistance.
It's all a mess.
and laugh
7 months ago
Anonymous
You're right, it's pretty funny how correct he is.
>What's wrong with TCW?
It's awful. Not Disney Wars awful, but awful. >It's a nice series
You lack discernment, you lack taste and you have no sense of quality. >Lucas was deeply involved in it?
Why are you asking saying this as a question and why would his involvement be inherently a good thing, after the disaster that was the prequel trilogy?
His best writing is on par with low tier fan fiction. He is a halfwit homosexual that should have never been given access to any of these projects let alone full “creative” control
This
I gave TFA a chance even though the filoni shit TV show (2008) was fricking trash but this shit was somehow even WORSE.
Never watched anything past TFA, star wars died past this point.
I met Timothy Zahn at his panel at Indianapolis Comicon before covid. He was nice. I asked if he prefers Chiss with all red eyes or how they look now and he said he didn’t have a preference and that he always just goes along with the book cover artists interpretations.
>HotD had to deal with the immense hurdle of winning back some good will after the disastrous final season of GoT >still gets higher viewership than the MCU and SW shows backed by Yidsney
The final seasons was so hated because how popular were the previous ones. The audience is like a BPD woman, if they say they hate you and try to slash your tires you can easily bang her again, if they're just friendly with you then they don't give a frick about you
Does anyone else just....not care for the majority of the cast, which just so happens to be the rebels characters?
I do not care for ahsoka, hera, chopper, ezra, space whales or that little goblin jacen
I only give a shit about Baylan and Shin, and by extension Thrawn, but he's going to be ruined because its rebels Thrawn and not book Thrawn
>How can she disobey direct orders repeatedly and not get marshall justice dike
(malorian b***h). >Why bring your kid to a space battle
(general dike)? >Why do New republic senators not care about enemy action inside their borders?
Retraded senate
Girl boss, force is female makes sense when you have a 130 year old jedi master whose been theough multiple wars, but not for your piece of shit disrespectful multi colored hair weirdo who has the worst case of resting b***h face ive ever seen. I hate her. why the frick couldnt they have written another way for the dark jedi to steal the map? why was ezras first scene her disobeying orders from multiple superiors suppised to present her as a badass and not a total shitbag?
>teen writers on disney staff need to spend a year researching various militaries atoundbthe world before they attempt to do a take on a fictional one.
insubordination is shitbag tier unless althe orders are unlawful.
But George Lucas himself has said that he trusts Dave more than anyone else as far as the SW storyline is concerned. That's like saying you hate Christopher Tolkien because he published books after his father died or something.
Filoni is a judas and a b***h who sucks off Disney and runs lockstep with KK’s feminization of SW.
I don’t care what Lucas thinks of Filoni, and no serious fan should care either. We have a right to criticize any bad choice made by Lucas, and bringing that pudgy little gremlin into the fold was a bad choice.
You are not a fan of SW. You are in a cult of personality.
Because he collaborates and enables Disney shit, he's a cuck. Shit, Star Trek's Rick Berman is a more worthy Padawan, at least he actually fricking took charge.
>What's wrong with TCW?
It's a chore to what if you're a hardcore fan.
His best writing is on par with low tier fan fiction. He is a halfwit homosexual that should have never been given access to any of these projects let alone full “creative” control
Because he is a hack and we all have been trying to warn you about this since TCW but nobody wanted to listen.
This. The modern star wars fan is at the bottom end of the bell curve and would be described as a village idiot in more civilised times. Jangling keys in front of an infant is about the same level of content that modern star wars is on.
>more string wyman woke shit with white men only depicted as weaklings and bad guys who get rescued or easily beaten up by women
i miss when star wars was allowed to be about heroic white male leads
>George had more involvement with The Force Unleashed than Clone Wars.
No, he didn't. >He wrote all of Vader's & Emperor's interactions.
No, he didn't.
>“I’ve left pretty explicit instructions for there not to be any more features. There will definitely be no Episodes VII-IX. That’s because there isn’t any story. I mean, I never thought of anything. And now there have been novels about the events after Episode VI, which isn’t at all what I would have done with it. The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn’t come back to life, the Emperor doesn’t get cloned and Luke doesn’t get married…” – George Lucas, Total Film, May 2007
>“George couldn’t stand Mara Jade. They went out and got some sort of person who looked like she had stepped out of a Cosmopolitan magazine to be the model for Mara, and he just thought the whole thing was so not Star Wars, and not his vision for Star Wars. […] And also she married Luke, and he says ‘Jedi don’t marry.’ So for him, that was important.” – J.W. Rinzler, former non-fiction author and editor of Lucas Licensing
He may have loved her if she was a good character, didn't conflict with his vision of Star Wars and had an interesting design. But all of that does not apply to her, so...
I liked the one where it was just jedis fighting rando sith lords 1k years before the clone wars, forget what book/game/whatever it was but we will NEVER have that with nu-wars
I thought Crimson Empire was terrible and I was extremely disappointed. It felt very fanfic-y to me. I liked the idea of focusing on the guards though. It's a good example of how the EU was willing to explore.
this guy was my favorite in the comics along with dirge
the clone troopers had much less nonsense dialogue in this series too
this was the same series that introduced Ki-Adi-Mundi as having 4+ wives but it was before episode 2 so it was never established as wrong for Jedi to be married lmfao
If you know the EU setups they're compromised by being stitched into this Disneed nonsense; if you don't it's "who the frick are all these buttholes from cartoons and why do I care?" Same Kuleshov Effect brooding emoting in place of actual dialogue and exposition (spoken or otherwise) as Dave & Dan with GOT, wiht the same potential for fandom killing frickups.
>there could be clankers here he thought >he looked around nervously >ive never refuelled my space ship in this neighbourhood before >there could be clankers here >he takes a deep breath and blows cigarette smoke into the cold galactic air >i could take a group of clankers he thought
>The Thrawn trilogy is widely credited with revitalizing the Star Wars franchise,[25][26][20] >In The Secret History of Star Wars, Michael Kaminski suggests that this renewed interest was a factor in George Lucas' decision to create the Star Wars prequel trilogy.[20][27]
>widely credited
Credited by whom? >In The Secret History of Star Wars, Michael Kaminski >~~*Michael Kaminski*~~
lol, the guy who claims George had barely anything to do with "the good" Star Wars and that it was saved by his wife.
Haven't watched anything since Kenobi, lost all hope with the disney+ star wars stuff, i loved the clone wars and the first 2 seasons of the mandalorian, should i watch this? would you recommend this? is this a meme?
I've seen clone wars and the 6 movies and this was comfy.
I've decided early on to treat is as dumb fun that managed to hook me but them I've found many relatable and nice elements in the story, the simple character development.
Is it really that surprising? It requires you to watch both Rebels and The Clone Wars cartoons. It eliminates a solid chunk of the audience. Plus the damage to Star Wars brand was already done, and the project that came after have to pay for it. Meanwhile everyone knows Obi-Wan. Mandalorian just came out at the right time and was better than sequels
who is this? a different tweelik girl? ashoka in show is old, fat, wrinkles, basically a muzzle that protrudes, giant lips and 45 degree sloped forehead/fivehead. not whatever this image is.
I find it really amusing that ever since Clone Wars came out we all treated Ahsoka as this annoying orange mary sue brat attached like a polyp to Star Wars. This was also the popular opinion even as late as 2018.
What we didn't realize is that here was a big audience of kids who were growing up with TCW and Rebels as their Star Wars, and that one day they'd be the main audience who thought Ahsoka wasn't a shit character.
Now we're in that reality and everyone pretends Ahsoka is Star Wars or some shit. Feels weird.
>we all
Who's "we"? Only assmad EUtards did that, because it exposed more than ever that their fanfics never mattered when George barged in and created this qt orange piece of togruta. >This was also the popular opinion even as late as 2018
No, it wasn't. Everyone since 2015 was memeing on how Rey is such a shit character, when just recently there was Ahsoka, a female character done right. And before that, TCW was a huge hit on CN and Netflix, and Ahsoka had become an immensely popular character. >Ahsoka wasn't a shit character.
She wasn't. >Now we're in that reality and everyone pretends Ahsoka is Star Wars or some shit.
She is.
Ashoka is a much better character than Rey. Rey is a nightmarishly bad character who has in many ways destroyed Star Wars as an entity.
My worry is that Kennedy/ Filoni do something with Ahsoka that ends up ruining her character. Kennedy especially, can’t help herself. She can’t just tell a good story about a compelling character, rather she has to bend and warp the narrative and make the lore all about whatever boxchecker she’s currently pushing.
>My worry is that Kennedy/ Filoni do something with Ahsoka that ends up ruining her character
I think her portrayal in live action is currently doing just that, she's just so smug and aloof despite doing nothing to actually warrant it aside from being the writer's pet.
The problem with ahsoka is that shes both a mary sue, and not a mary sue
if you watch her stuff in order of release, you'll notice the following pattern happens >ahsoka either just does something she didnt have before, or fights an opponent way above her grade and doesnt get stomped instantly >content after either explains this, or has her get stomped by weaker opponents >repeat
examples: >ahsoka fights vader and doesnt get killed in 3 seconds >gets fended off by marrok and beaten by baylan
>ahsoka defends against way more clones than jedi masters in order 66 and lives >ToTJ explains that shes specifically trained against that maneauver the clones used on her
That pattern is nothing more than the writers putting characters into situations in which they should easily win but they don't because the plot requires it. >ahsoka defends against way more clones than jedi masters in order 66 and lives
90% of the blaster fire disappears in the editing,
>filtered by the story
wow, it's like with the prequels all again where people called you a conspiracy theorist and insane for explaining them the actual plot
You could probably condense the first three episodes into just two and barely lose anything because there's so much faffing about that could be cut without losing any of the major plot threads and not wasting your audiences time with meaningless, lingering pauses in every other scene.
That is disingenuous, do you really think they just let actors improv?
Stevenson has a lot of screen presence, doubly so compared to almost everyone else in this show. The fact that he's able to stand around and look geniunely imposing is enough to elevate his character beyond mediocrity.
>alright so I got this idea >what we'll do is we'll use Ventress from the old cartoon and comics, and have her constantly make advances towards obi-wan whenever she fights him >yeah, and we'll deliberately make her sexy too >and she'll strip off her clothes half the time in front of him as well >yes, I know this is supposed to be a kids show
>my feet hurt >why is she even posing with me like this >goddamn ventress why did you have to put on the skintight bodysuit for this, you know im almost triple your age >why are our lightsabers ignited, this could be dangerous >I hope sidious doesnt walk in on us right now
7 months ago
Anonymous
where does one acquire models like this
asking for my dick
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/Ahsoka%20mary%20sue/order/asc/
I can't find a single person in ancient discussions on this board that disagrees with that.
>that opinion cannot exist >ignore that among those hundreds of results no one is denying she's not a mary sue
wow, you're really that dumb?
it's like you randomly type words in your replies
> specifically for assmad dumbfricks
You really must be too young to remember. Because really the fandom attitude about Ahsoka was that she was a needless OC inserted into Star Wars so there's more cartoon content for kids. Of course that will never compute for you, since you were one of those kids.
>once
Far, far more than once. That's besides the fact that she actually trained, learned, made mistakes, needed rescue and guidance from older, experienced and more competent characters, etc. >so did Rey lmao
Rey allowed herself to be captured. And in the first movie when she was "captured" she got out of it on her own. She somehow knew mind-trick on the next day after she learned of the Force's existence, and she successfully mind-tricked a stormtrooper on her first try into releasing her. Without any prior training. So her capture is irrelevant. You are a dishonest mongoloid. Which isn't surprising at all.
>she actually trained, learned, made mistakes, needed rescue and guidance from older, experienced and more competent characters, etc.
Must've missed that part seeing how none of this happened. They literally timeskip her so she's wouldn't be annoying anymore without the writers actually having to do their jobs.
lmao the spammer who defends reddit all day is racist
like clockwork, funny how he used a new image today maybe I should've not pointed his patterns last time
The problem with ahsoka is that shes both a mary sue, and not a mary sue
if you watch her stuff in order of release, you'll notice the following pattern happens >ahsoka either just does something she didnt have before, or fights an opponent way above her grade and doesnt get stomped instantly >content after either explains this, or has her get stomped by weaker opponents >repeat
examples: >ahsoka fights vader and doesnt get killed in 3 seconds >gets fended off by marrok and beaten by baylan
>ahsoka defends against way more clones than jedi masters in order 66 and lives >ToTJ explains that shes specifically trained against that maneauver the clones used on her
Show is a 6/10 hard carried by the villains. Ahsoka and Sabine are both boring as all frick and can't fricking act. That entire meeting with Ezra was fricking hilarious "Oh hi you are alive I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Nice to see you I guess. Yeah".
>filtered by the story
wow, it's like with the prequels all again where people called you a conspiracy theorist and insane for explaining them the actual plot
Yeah the contrast is insane. When the good guys are on the screen, most of the time it's boring, feels like the plot is not moving, and the shows tone feels like it's just Rebels season 5 despite them taking slow and trying to appear stoic. When the "bad" guys are on the screen, it's completely opposite and the show is kinda interesting again for a brief time. Wish this show was about Shin and Baylan as antiheroes, but such show would never get approved under the Disney
Let me remind you why you the SW OT purists are moronic: they also worship the EU.
It's a matter of fanboyism with them, nothing less, a desire to feel superior to others.
The irony is in the lack of self-awareness.
>Bland, fat, stoic non-entity and waifu bait >But he said history repeats sometimes! So wise! >And...and he says it's ok to do bad stuff for the greater good! Now that's MATURE!
Mediocre white man with bargain bin philosophizing a d his-admittedly cute but boring sidekick
I'm actually Asian but I can imagine you pigskin being mad at my superior genes. Higher IQ and better phenotype. Look at all the women lusting after Zoro. What women lusts over your flabby, nintendo-playing white ass. Kek
>strike gold
Filoni has been consistently good at making the only decent Star Wars, though. So that's not really "striking gold." It's called consistency.
Unfortunately, Kathleen Kennedy views people of color as weak children and therefore she doesn’t allow them to be flawed, evil, have depth, be defeated, or have proper character traits or arcs. This makes all Star Wars media insanely predictable and tedious. The rare time that you actually have a Reva, you just know she’s going to be redeemed or is secretly good the whole time. It’s just boring as frick. Because Shin and Baylon are white, they’re allowed to be dark or flawed or interesting in ways other characters are simply not allowed to be, unfortunately.
Ashoka is just being used to steal Mortis away from the Skywalkers, the Thrawn Trilogy away from the Skywalkers, the Yuzhan Grysk away from the Skywalkers, and then the ultimate goal is to use Ahsoka to once again attempt to get Rey Palpatine over. Everything you are seeing right now is yet another long winded attempt to make Rey a thing. It’s such a waste.
I only like the original trilogy and I laugh at all this other garbage.
George is a fat moron that needs wranglers.
EU sucks ass.
Dave Filoni is a homosexual cowboy simp for a shitty orange mary sue.
Disney's crap gives you eye cancer.
Prequels suck.
Sequels suck.
Kathleen Kennedy has a twat smellier than your mother's.
Ahsoka is awful and only useful for coombait.
The comics suck.
Thooks suck.
But some of the games aren't bad.
>But some of the games aren't bad. >Cinemaphileermin exposes himself
yikes, you have no right to call other stuff garbage when you are the bottom of the barrel slopper who gobbles up cheap shovelware
Their stories are shit but Galactic Battleground and the original Battlefront games were fun. So you two can go cry into your own buttholes and do a headstand in your front yard so you can become a living birdbath.
>But some of the games aren't bad. >Cinemaphileermin exposes himself
yikes, you have no right to call other stuff garbage when you are the bottom of the barrel slopper who gobbles up cheap shovelware
It was "ok" but hard to really care about it/get invested in knowing who made it. Also overrated massively by starwars gays coping (finally a good show!!!!)
liked the mall cops, everyone else can frick off.
It's a serious show. As in characters actually behave like people and not cartoony facsimiles you usually see in Star Wars.
But is it GOOD? Well it's better than the sequel trilogy and most of the shows. Wouldn't call it good though, it's like a 7.5/10 in terms of real television.
If you liked TCW and Rebels then you'll probably like Ahsoka.
It was "ok" but hard to really care about it/get invested in knowing who made it. Also overrated massively by starwars gays coping (finally a good show!!!!)
liked the mall cops, everyone else can frick off.
>a reasonable opinion on Andor
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
>love original trilogy >love prequels >hate sequels (and don't consider them canon) >love Genndy's Clone Wars >love Filoni's Clone Wars >love Rogue One >hate Han Solo flick >love all live-action TV series so far (yes, even Boba Fett and Kenobi) >love most of the canon comics >love most of Ostrander's comics >love Thrawn trilogy books
Am I based?
Solo was unironically a better movie than Rogue One, narratively and cinematically speaking
Rogue One had great art design and action scenes, but the direction and lighting is horrible, and the writing is practically nonexistent, plus none of the main protagonists could act (all the side characters and villains could though), it's basically like watching The Matrix 3
>hate Han Solo flick
It's a shitty and heavily abridged re-imagining of AC Crispin's Han Solo trilogy, I enjoyed the first book but can't speak for the rest.
The söyboy's idea of "saving star wars" is throwing in as much fan service as humanly possible. Like jingling keys in front of a baby. >oooOooOooOoo 'member anakin? 'member the clone wars? Yaaaaay!
Wanna know how to "save star wars?"
Take it out back with a shotgun.
Ironic, considering the only media you can enjoy is nostalgia from your childhood sold back to you. You know, from the last time in your life that you were happy.
Me? I want new things.
It's called peak Reddit.
You're on Cinemaphile, motion pictures are temporal, scene based.
Everyone has seen those screenshots and 23 more each passing second, you're a pleb.
orange woman bad
Continue not watching garbage soi wars movies especially anything Filoni has his moronic grubby hands on
chud cant handle success, lol
>if you dont like le popular mainstream boring shit...yu ar le...le chud xd
Why do words lose their meanings as time goes on, what a postmodern hellhole this site has become
>le popular mainstream boring shit
seethe, chud. the viewership wil keep growing and growing.
Why is it being popular or not so important to you, are you a shareholder or just moronic?
>Why is it being popular or not so important to you
because thats what shows are made up?. keep seething
holy ESL
you're right its a jeet
>because thats what shows are made up?
He's a shill who gets paid in rupees
Lulz yee wit the chud chuddy what awesome day we rock
Thats how chud was always used, just to try to shame and bully people into accepting mainstream opinion.
>implying 'chud' ever meant something in the first place
yeah that's a OOF and a YIKES from me, brah
Noted. Please continue to seethe.
viewership may say otherwise.
1.2 million views the first week? And thats groundbreaking in leftistan is it?
the viewership is literally terrible though, leftsoy, below boba fat, lmao... and disney stocks are in deep shit. You're losing 😉
It's the second highest watched Star Wars show, what are you talking about?
No, it is not. It is the least watched live action Star Wars show ever
It's not.
https://deadline.com/2023/09/ahsoka-premiere-ratings-disney-plus-suits-ratings-nielsen-streaming-1235553095/
Andor debuted with 3 episodes and 625M Hrs
Mando Season 3 debuted with 1 episode and had 16 additional episodes that count for a total of 823M Hrs (the New Episode generated 57% so ~470M according to Nielsen at the time)
Ahsoka debuted with 2 episodes and 829M Hrs
what's the relevance of this, what plot point does it analyze?
Ummm Maulerbros? Robotheadbros? Our narrative is falling apart!
No, only slightly worse than Obi-Wan (a character from the legendary movies that everyone knows about, as opposed to a character that originated in animation), with Obi having 958 million hours in two episodes.
958 million minutes*
No. Ashoka’s audience numbers are 30-40% lower than Obi-WAN’s.
Also, Disney Plus has 10 million more subscribers now than May 2022. So in per capita terms, Ashoka is even lower than 30-40% below Obi-Wan. The show is underperforming
Me.. I might watch a video or two that analyze symbolism and plot.
You? Waste hours discussing marketing, defending corporations, watching gossip videos.
We're not the same.
>grifter YouTube shit
Concession accepted. I linked the actual source with actual data, you linked trash. Unlucky. Try better next time, stupid mutt.
what relevance does it have to the discussion about the content of the show?
>ITS SUPER POPULAR!!
>Here's proof that it's not.
>W-WELL WHAT IF I MOVE THE GOALPOST AND TALK ABOUT ITS QUALITY OR SOME SHIT!
Keep in mind, this is what was replied to
Please tell the thread where that post mentions anything about the "content of the show."
Talk about the show.
Why are you moving the goalpost?
You said it was popular. Now that has been disproven you're... saying we should talk about the show?
Why did you lie about the popularity of the show in the first place if you want to talk about the show?
And if you say "talk about the show" one more time, that will be your concession. Might as well not reply if that's all you have.
what does popularity have to do with the content of the show?
Because you brought it up
Sounds like you regret doing that.
All me btw.
Ahsoka is the least watched Star Wars show of all time
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>reddit hates it
>Cinemaphile hates it
>twitter hates it
>youtube hates it
yep its kino.
I am Cinemaphile and I like it.
EU cancer is not relevant.
Please stop talking about starwar
why is filoni just
>take something from the EU
>make it even worse
does he have no originality?
if the show is popular, then it doesnt really matter, chud
Because he is a hack and we all have been trying to warn you about this since TCW but nobody wanted to listen.
What's wrong with TCW? It's a nice series. Lucas was deeply involved in it?
>What's wrong with TCW?
It's a chore to what if you're a hardcore fan.
It's not if you think about the things in it. If you're just in for a braindead binge-watch there's not much for you there.
It's a nice series when you're a toddler that never experienced anything else from the franchise.
Needless retcons, flippant inconsistencies, spending valuable time to flesh out a character that does not exist anywhere else but the cartoon and has no impact on the films, character assassinations, flanderizations, an overly-lighthearted tone that's too childish and safe for even the main demographic of Star Wars until it wants to be serious and comes off as bipolar and tone deaf.
I could go on. And Lucas being deeply involved is a myth, he took more of a passive role in throwing out ideas and letting other people do the work while he was focused on his own projects and other films like Red Tails and Indy 4, Filoni himself even alludes to this in how he approached directing Resistance.
It's all a mess.
Clone Wars really did steal the credit of the EU & previous CGI shows like Reboot & Beast Wars.
>And Lucas being deeply involved is a myth
Lying, seething, butthurt EUtrannoid, lmao.
>"I am the father of our Star Wars movie world - the filmed entertainment, the features and now the animated film and television series,” he says. “And I’m going to do a live-action television series. Those are all things I am very involved in: I set them up and I train the people and I go through them all. I’m the father; that’s my work. Then we have the licensing group, which does the games, toys and books, and all that other stuff. I call that the son - and the son does pretty much what he wants.” He laughs. “Once in a while, they ask a question like ‘Can we kill off Yoda?’, things like that, but it’s very loose. Then we have the third group, the holy ghost, which is the bloggers and fans. They have created their own world. I worry about the father’s world. The son and holy ghost can go their own way."-George Lucas: Mr Emperor strikes back
>George Lucas: We’ve been doing this for three years. We have one year finished, we’re in the middle of the second year. I’ve written the third year. We expect this to go on for at least five or six years.
>George Lucas: I haven’t limited myself with what stories I’ve wanted to tell; this is Star Wars, and I don’t make a distinction between [The Clone Wars] series and the films. It’s just a different format and a different delivery.
>Furthermore, there would be no cherry-picking the series; a network had to take all twenty-two episodes or lose out altogether. “It’s much easier for me to just do the show I want, [then] say, ‘Here it is, do you wish to license it or not?’” Lucas said with only a hint of exasperation. “That’s it. There’s no notes, no comments. I don’t care what your opinion is. You either put it on the air or you don’t.”—George Lucas, A Life
Now type this without crying.
Concession accepted, EUnuch trannoid.
Is that the latest npc stock reply on twitter?
Get those StarLog quotes ready.
You didn't refute anything he said with those quotes.
There is nothing to refute. None of what he said was true.
How about you try to prove it instead of seething about the EU? It's hilarious how obsessed with it you are.
>Furthermore, there would be no cherry-picking the series; a network had to take all twenty-two episodes or lose out altogether. “It’s much easier for me to just do the show I want, [then] say, ‘Here it is, do you wish to license it or not?’” Lucas said with only a hint of exasperation. “That’s it. There’s no notes, no comments. I don’t care what your opinion is. You either put it on the air or you don’t.”—George Lucas
I fricking kneel
That fat frick is blaspheming hardcore.
He has more hair in his 70's than you will have in your 30's.
>nooo you have attacked my personal god
peak søy
Don't forget it killed Lego Star Wars for a bit too
Everything you just described can easily be said about Disney.
I seriously have no idea how people are so unaware that half the shit they get mad at Disney for was prevalent in that fricking cartoon.
It also fricked up the EU big time.
When people say the EU was a mess, they're usually using talking points from when
>TCW
>SWTOR
>Denningverse
and
>TFU
Came on the scene and shit everything up. By the end of the PT, the EU was mostly consistent, though it definitely didn't start that way.
EU was never canon. Can't frick up what was never canon. It was a parallel universe, like Star Trek TV and Star Trek novels. They are completely separate from each other. It was just merchandise.
It saved Star Wars in the 90s and Lucas constantly worked in tandem with the authors, even incorporating their content into the PT, but you already knew this.
Seems you just don't like Star Wars, and that's sad.
>It saved Star Wars in the 90s
Star Wars never needed saving. Star Wars is the single biggest film series in the history of mankind. You are a delusional fanboy, who tries to justify all those hours he wasted on low-effort merchandise, that has got nothing to do with the actual Star Wars.
>Lucas constantly worked in tandem with the authors, even incorporating their content into the PT
No, he didn't. He gave advice when approached (though, usually through the middle-men in Lucas Licencing, like Howard Roffman - he rarely worked with anyone in the licensing directly), but it was still just that... merchandise. He did, however, take some ideas that he liked, like the design of Aayla Secura, and he would have taken the design of Darth Talon. Though that doesn't make their stories canon.
>Seems you just don't like Star Wars, and that's sad.
I like Lucas' Star Wars - the actual Star Wars. You are a rabid consoomer, that gobbles everything with a SW label on it. And now you have a Stockholm syndrome, and run around trying to justify all that time you'd wasted.
>Star Wars never needed saving
It did in the 90s.
>He gave advice when approached
So... working in tandem with the authors, like I said.
You're pretty bad at this.
>It did in the 90s.
It didn't. Star Wars is the biggest movie series in the history of mankind. More people saw the special editions in theaters than anything the EU has ever made. Your silly little fanfic books never mattered, and 1% of the consoomers can't "save" (and don't need to) a multimillion movie franchise.
>So... working in tandem with the authors, like I said.
He really didn't. And it didn't matter, anyway.
See:
You're pretty good at coping, however.
>It didn't.
But it did.
>He really didn't
But you said as much, so now not only are you calling and proving yourself to be a liar, you're discrediting your own post referrals, while furthermore quoting someone who constantly changes his mind.
Galactic levels of cope and your concession has been considered, but returned because it's worthless.
>But it did.
It didn't. You've never proved it. Claiming that Star Wars - the biggest series of movies in the history of manking, the highest grossing film series ever conceived - needed saving, is a delusion of a schizophrenic.
>But you said as much
Never did. Rarely giving some scarce input via the middle-men, while constantly acknowledging that "it's all very loose, parallel universe that I don't read, don't care about and that doesn't matter to my universe" is not "working in tandem." What kind of tandem is this?
>Galactic levels of cope
That's you. Saying that Star Wars after the OT ever needed saving and that the EU ever mattered, lmao. Embarrassing. EUgays are the Qtards of Star Wars. You are unironically mentally ill.
Not even gonna read.
It did, it did, etc., etc.
Who lost? You did.
Now excuse me while I get back to sharing real Star Wars (EU, OT and PT) with my fellow Star Wars bros. You're more than welcome to join.
Concession accepted. Until then, still waiting on those proofs to any of your delusional claims (you don't have any).
I kneel, EUchad
The EU books, comics, and video games absolutely carried the brand through the 90s and without the money they were bringing in we probably wouldn't have gotten the prequel trilogy. As far as profitability the paperbacks were never going to make as much as a movie release, that's just the nature of books vs movies, like Jurassic Park's movie made more money than the book too, hell any book that's had a movie release can say that, but it's asinine to say the book had nothing to do with the success or building public interest.
>the book had nothing to do with the success or building public interest.
It didn't. The book audience is merely a fraction of the actual movie-going audience. It's a marginal error, literally, that barely matters in the grand scale of things. You can see it even on the pic you've posted. And those books were relatively successful BECAUSE they are Star Wars. Not the other way around, as you dumbfricks claim. The special editions theatrical releases and the PT were successful not because of irrelevant fanfic books, but because they are STAR WARS movies. Fanfic books were successful, because they had a STAR WARS logo on it, not the other way around. You are seriously low IQ.
This isn’t adjusted for inflation though.
A New Hope alone made $4 billion at the box office. Fix your graphic
It's not like if you keep the lump sum of money from a few decades ago it magically transforms into the value adjusted for inflation.
That person would've had to invest it back then and beat inflation year by year.
Holy shit, this is the dumbest post I’ve ever read in the history of this site. Ever. Holy frick
>I like Lucas' Star Wars - the actual Star Wars.
You sound like a boring hole.
The EU was always better than George.
>The EU was always better than George.
No. No, it really wasn't. It was putrid, derivative garbage.
Case in point:
>Oola was a slave twi'lek dancers? Well, you see, ALL twi'leks are ACKCHYUALLY genetically predisposed to being slaves and dancers!
>Boba Fett was a mercenary with colored armor? Well, you see, ALL Mandalorians are ACKCHYUALLY mercenaries with colored armor!
>Bothans died to provide the Rebels intel on the Death Star? Well, you see, ALL Bothans are spies!
You know George ripoff names wholesale from Edgar Rice Burroughs right?
>You are a delusional fanboy
Yea It's rare to find such a delusional person even on Cinemaphile, it's kind of shocking really.
George loved Shadows of the Empire.
When did he say it? And, regardless, even if he did - it was still a parallel universe, irrelevant to his own.
>“Whatever it is that happens afterward,” the 63-year-old filmmaker said, “that isn’t the core ‘Star Wars’ story that I like to tell.” “There really isn’t any story to tell there,” the filmmaker said. “It’s been covered in the books and video games and comic books, which are things I think are incredibly creative but that I don’t really have anything to do with other than being the person who built the sandbox they’re playing in.” “I get asked all the time, ‘What happens after “Return of the Jedi”?,’ and there really is no answer for that,” he said. “The movies were the story of Anakin Skywalker and Luke Skywalker, and when Luke saves the galaxy and redeems his father, that’s where that story ends.” - George Lucas, George Lucas: ‘Star Wars’ won’t go beyond Darth Vader
>ComingSoon.net: Do you think you’d have other people continue the “Star Wars” saga past “Episode VI” or turn some of the other material into films?
>George Lucas: But there’s no story past “Episode VI”, there’s just no story. It’s a certain story about Anakin Skywalker and once Anakin Skywalker dies, that’s kind of the end of the story. There is no story about Luke Skywalker, I mean apart from the books. But there’s three worlds: There’s my world that I made up, there’s the licensing world that’s the books, the comics, all that kind of stuff, the games, which is their world, and then there’s the fans’ world, which is also very rich in imagination, but they don’t always mesh. All I’m in charge of is my world. I can’t be in charge of those other people’s world, because I can’t keep up with it. - George Lucas, Exclusive: A Rare Sit-Down with Mr. George Lucas
>George Lucas: ‘Star Wars’ won’t go beyond Darth Vader
He changed his mind about everything but this is still funny to me.
Remember when Jedi where Samurai then boom!
Shaolin Monks.
>Needless retcons, flippant inconsistencies,
That's just Star Wars in general from TPM on, if not ROTJ on.
This poster is a compulsive liar, pretty much everything he said can be verified and shown that he's a giga-brainlet.
So do it, we're waiting.
read this
and laugh
You're right, it's pretty funny how correct he is.
I urge you to go read the Dark Horse Republic comics and compare the old Clone Wars with TCW.
Is this supposed to look good? Nice proportions, lmao.
Looks good to me.
>What's wrong with TCW?
It's awful. Not Disney Wars awful, but awful.
>It's a nice series
You lack discernment, you lack taste and you have no sense of quality.
>Lucas was deeply involved in it?
Why are you asking saying this as a question and why would his involvement be inherently a good thing, after the disaster that was the prequel trilogy?
I was 12 when TCW released.
His best writing is on par with low tier fan fiction. He is a halfwit homosexual that should have never been given access to any of these projects let alone full “creative” control
you're talking about a guy whose whole career is making fanfiction of one product
what the frick would he do if start wars didn't exist
the last sw shit i watched was TFA in 2015, it was fricking terrible,i still gave a chance one of these newer series after that and it was even worse
i stopped giving a shit about star wars and i will not give a shit ever again
same here anon but i didnt even bother with any of the shows
This
I gave TFA a chance even though the filoni shit TV show (2008) was fricking trash but this shit was somehow even WORSE.
Never watched anything past TFA, star wars died past this point.
Its not for us, it for the Prequel and Sequel chuds now. For Star Wars is dead, time to move on.
ahsoka, at least her grown up stoic form, is still the least interesting character in the show.
>thrawn in this canon has done literally nothing
>people are scared of him as if he's EU thrawn
He sieged one planet for like two seasons and got fricked by magic space whales.
This trash is a complete fricking joke.
I met Timothy Zahn at his panel at Indianapolis Comicon before covid. He was nice. I asked if he prefers Chiss with all red eyes or how they look now and he said he didn’t have a preference and that he always just goes along with the book cover artists interpretations.
Boring story. I prefer the anon's story where he pissed off Ray Park when he asked him if he hated Jar Jar Binks like everyone else.
Isn't cover art drawn separately from the book and the author and artist usually have minimal contact?
Yeah that’s what he told me
>Chudbros.......what we do now?
Keep laughing I guess
how many people watched episode 2
70% of r/prequelmemes
Goddamn, that bad?
>female Hunter Schafer doesn’t bring in big numbers
The west has fallen
>HotD had to deal with the immense hurdle of winning back some good will after the disastrous final season of GoT
>still gets higher viewership than the MCU and SW shows backed by Yidsney
How did they do it?
Incest is apparently the key to the hearts of the American people.
The final seasons was so hated because how popular were the previous ones. The audience is like a BPD woman, if they say they hate you and try to slash your tires you can easily bang her again, if they're just friendly with you then they don't give a frick about you
Everyone's girlfriend made them watch this show.
The best part is that HotD was not even a big success. It was just mildly successful. GoT finale had 20 million.
Really shows how hard Disney shit is flopping.
>Filoni Saved Star Wars
By making a flop worse than Trandor? Even live action Thrawn couldn't help him.
The shitquels are still canon too.
>By making a flop worse than Trandor?
prove it.
inbf
Please note the shills that made those pictures counted 6 days for ACKsoka and 4 for the others, it's actually even worse than that it looks
Nobody's talking about it, previous shows were so bad people wouldn't shut up about them. Slopsoka must be VERY boring.
Every episode is basically 20-25% longer just because cinematography is slow as frick. You don't need to linger on every shot for so long.
Chiss are sexier than Twi-leks
blonde white girl best thing to happen to start wars since the original cast was all killed
Does anyone else just....not care for the majority of the cast, which just so happens to be the rebels characters?
I do not care for ahsoka, hera, chopper, ezra, space whales or that little goblin jacen
I only give a shit about Baylan and Shin, and by extension Thrawn, but he's going to be ruined because its rebels Thrawn and not book Thrawn
>How can she disobey direct orders repeatedly and not get marshall justice dike
(malorian b***h).
>Why bring your kid to a space battle
(general dike)?
>Why do New republic senators not care about enemy action inside their borders?
Retraded senate
Girl boss, force is female makes sense when you have a 130 year old jedi master whose been theough multiple wars, but not for your piece of shit disrespectful multi colored hair weirdo who has the worst case of resting b***h face ive ever seen. I hate her. why the frick couldnt they have written another way for the dark jedi to steal the map? why was ezras first scene her disobeying orders from multiple superiors suppised to present her as a badass and not a total shitbag?
>teen writers on disney staff need to spend a year researching various militaries atoundbthe world before they attempt to do a take on a fictional one.
insubordination is shitbag tier unless althe orders are unlawful.
Why do chuds hate Filoni so much? He's literally George Lucas' Padawan, and other than Lucas himself, no one knows this universe better than Filoni.
Because he feels like a dumbed down version of the EU (and the EU is cringe asf and gay)
But George Lucas himself has said that he trusts Dave more than anyone else as far as the SW storyline is concerned. That's like saying you hate Christopher Tolkien because he published books after his father died or something.
Filoni is a judas and a b***h who sucks off Disney and runs lockstep with KK’s feminization of SW.
I don’t care what Lucas thinks of Filoni, and no serious fan should care either. We have a right to criticize any bad choice made by Lucas, and bringing that pudgy little gremlin into the fold was a bad choice.
You are not a fan of SW. You are in a cult of personality.
Because he collaborates and enables Disney shit, he's a cuck. Shit, Star Trek's Rick Berman is a more worthy Padawan, at least he actually fricking took charge.
If he really was his Padawan he would make Whills kino with sexy Twi'leks instead of all this slop.
Filoni Wars is only good if you learned of Star Wars the day before.
Star Wars is just Harry Potter now.
Why isn't she acting at all? I've never seen her portray so little emotion before. Both the character and the actress.
>Saved Star Wars
Filoni is a FRICKING HACK!
It's a new golden age if you got nothing between your ears.
Like a clockwork.
This. The modern star wars fan is at the bottom end of the bell curve and would be described as a village idiot in more civilised times. Jangling keys in front of an infant is about the same level of content that modern star wars is on.
I like both, although droids is a bit hard to re-watch now days.
>more string wyman woke shit with white men only depicted as weaklings and bad guys who get rescued or easily beaten up by women
i miss when star wars was allowed to be about heroic white male leads
Filoni is Fredo.
George had more involvement with The Force Unleashed than Clone Wars.
He wrote all of Vader's & Emperor's interactions.
>George had more involvement with The Force Unleashed than Clone Wars.
No, he didn't.
>He wrote all of Vader's & Emperor's interactions.
No, he didn't.
The suckholes are here.
>“I’ve left pretty explicit instructions for there not to be any more features. There will definitely be no Episodes VII-IX. That’s because there isn’t any story. I mean, I never thought of anything. And now there have been novels about the events after Episode VI, which isn’t at all what I would have done with it. The Star Wars story is really the tragedy of Darth Vader. That is the story. Once Vader dies, he doesn’t come back to life, the Emperor doesn’t get cloned and Luke doesn’t get married…” – George Lucas, Total Film, May 2007
>“George couldn’t stand Mara Jade. They went out and got some sort of person who looked like she had stepped out of a Cosmopolitan magazine to be the model for Mara, and he just thought the whole thing was so not Star Wars, and not his vision for Star Wars. […] And also she married Luke, and he says ‘Jedi don’t marry.’ So for him, that was important.” – J.W. Rinzler, former non-fiction author and editor of Lucas Licensing
Now if Mara was 12 George would have loved her.
He may have loved her if she was a good character, didn't conflict with his vision of Star Wars and had an interesting design. But all of that does not apply to her, so...
>Jedi don’t marry.
Proceeds to have Anakin marry Padme. Lucas is a hypocritical hack. Always.
Ahsoka will always be a walking asterisk.
Nice mud huts you got there Grand Master.
laugh at the pathetic viewership data
Clone Wars has ruined a generation of Star Wars fans.
Such hubris.
Well good thing lazy fans don't read.
Lucaspurists are mentally ill.
He's not L. Ron Hubbard.
He's not even a Lucas purist, he consoomes Filonislop.
Post your favorite EU stuff NOW.
I liked the one where it was just jedis fighting rando sith lords 1k years before the clone wars, forget what book/game/whatever it was but we will NEVER have that with nu-wars
No they sit & talk about there fee fees like GOW: Ragnarok
I thought Crimson Empire was terrible and I was extremely disappointed. It felt very fanfic-y to me. I liked the idea of focusing on the guards though. It's a good example of how the EU was willing to explore.
I'm still mad that it ended because of the sale.
this guy was my favorite in the comics along with dirge
the clone troopers had much less nonsense dialogue in this series too
this was the same series that introduced Ki-Adi-Mundi as having 4+ wives but it was before episode 2 so it was never established as wrong for Jedi to be married lmfao
I really enjoyed Ki-Adi as the main character in that run.
More like ki adi chuddy. He is too problematic for the modern audience
Everything about Grievous in the EU was what hooked me. You can guess how I feel about The Clone Wars.
Gotta be KOTOR for me, too.
Post-Endor pre-Thrawn Imperial shenanigans were great.
Star Wars Republic. Shit was dope.
If you know the EU setups they're compromised by being stitched into this Disneed nonsense; if you don't it's "who the frick are all these buttholes from cartoons and why do I care?" Same Kuleshov Effect brooding emoting in place of actual dialogue and exposition (spoken or otherwise) as Dave & Dan with GOT, wiht the same potential for fandom killing frickups.
>there could be clankers here he thought
>he looked around nervously
>ive never refuelled my space ship in this neighbourhood before
>there could be clankers here
>he takes a deep breath and blows cigarette smoke into the cold galactic air
>i could take a group of clankers he thought
>what we do now?
we eat
Please use this pic instead, fatty-bum-batties don't have legs like that.
Lazy fans hating the EU out of insecurity again?
>I'm a real fan because I have George's beard trimmings!
>Jacen is in the show
>But actually he has nothing to do with Jacen Solo and he just shares the same first name
What's the point of this?
For the sunk cost fans that don't know any better.
Star Wars used to be based.
We need a final solution to the Rodian menace.
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>The Thrawn trilogy is widely credited with revitalizing the Star Wars franchise,[25][26][20]
>In The Secret History of Star Wars, Michael Kaminski suggests that this renewed interest was a factor in George Lucas' decision to create the Star Wars prequel trilogy.[20][27]
>widely credited
Credited by whom?
>In The Secret History of Star Wars, Michael Kaminski
>~~*Michael Kaminski*~~
lol, the guy who claims George had barely anything to do with "the good" Star Wars and that it was saved by his wife.
>Star Wars and that it was saved by his wife.
That's myth.
Only Mary Jo & Jude are the only women good at Star Wars anything.
That's a Polish name you bumbling moron, not j*wish.
You just have no credibility at all, do you?
Poland is full of israelites. Why do you think Hitler wanted to wipe them the frick out?
"I have no faith at all. I only hold conviction."
Haven't watched anything since Kenobi, lost all hope with the disney+ star wars stuff, i loved the clone wars and the first 2 seasons of the mandalorian, should i watch this? would you recommend this? is this a meme?
I've seen clone wars and the 6 movies and this was comfy.
I've decided early on to treat is as dumb fun that managed to hook me but them I've found many relatable and nice elements in the story, the simple character development.
thank you for the sincere answer anon, i'll give it a try
Nobody is watching. And 90% of people who don’t like Disney Star Wars aren’t “Chuds”
Is it really that surprising? It requires you to watch both Rebels and The Clone Wars cartoons. It eliminates a solid chunk of the audience. Plus the damage to Star Wars brand was already done, and the project that came after have to pay for it. Meanwhile everyone knows Obi-Wan. Mandalorian just came out at the right time and was better than sequels
who cares about old orange pussy
All I'm getting from this thread is that Filoni fans are cancer and EU fans are bros.
You may stop samegayging, dumbass. It's blatantly obvious.
What a sane and rational post.
always were
who is this? a different tweelik girl? ashoka in show is old, fat, wrinkles, basically a muzzle that protrudes, giant lips and 45 degree sloped forehead/fivehead. not whatever this image is.
>uhh actually ashoka is a togruta
>chud BTFO
I find it really amusing that ever since Clone Wars came out we all treated Ahsoka as this annoying orange mary sue brat attached like a polyp to Star Wars. This was also the popular opinion even as late as 2018.
What we didn't realize is that here was a big audience of kids who were growing up with TCW and Rebels as their Star Wars, and that one day they'd be the main audience who thought Ahsoka wasn't a shit character.
Now we're in that reality and everyone pretends Ahsoka is Star Wars or some shit. Feels weird.
>we all
Who's "we"? Only assmad EUtards did that, because it exposed more than ever that their fanfics never mattered when George barged in and created this qt orange piece of togruta.
>This was also the popular opinion even as late as 2018
No, it wasn't. Everyone since 2015 was memeing on how Rey is such a shit character, when just recently there was Ahsoka, a female character done right. And before that, TCW was a huge hit on CN and Netflix, and Ahsoka had become an immensely popular character.
>Ahsoka wasn't a shit character.
She wasn't.
>Now we're in that reality and everyone pretends Ahsoka is Star Wars or some shit.
She is.
Here we have a prime example of a Clone Wars kiddie all grown up.
I accept your concession.
Here we have a prime example of conceding an argument.
Ashoka is a much better character than Rey. Rey is a nightmarishly bad character who has in many ways destroyed Star Wars as an entity.
My worry is that Kennedy/ Filoni do something with Ahsoka that ends up ruining her character. Kennedy especially, can’t help herself. She can’t just tell a good story about a compelling character, rather she has to bend and warp the narrative and make the lore all about whatever boxchecker she’s currently pushing.
>My worry is that Kennedy/ Filoni do something with Ahsoka that ends up ruining her character
I think her portrayal in live action is currently doing just that, she's just so smug and aloof despite doing nothing to actually warrant it aside from being the writer's pet.
That pattern is nothing more than the writers putting characters into situations in which they should easily win but they don't because the plot requires it.
>ahsoka defends against way more clones than jedi masters in order 66 and lives
90% of the blaster fire disappears in the editing,
You could probably condense the first three episodes into just two and barely lose anything because there's so much faffing about that could be cut without losing any of the major plot threads and not wasting your audiences time with meaningless, lingering pauses in every other scene.
Stevenson has a lot of screen presence, doubly so compared to almost everyone else in this show. The fact that he's able to stand around and look geniunely imposing is enough to elevate his character beyond mediocrity.
It's okay he's in Greggs.
>alright so I got this idea
>what we'll do is we'll use Ventress from the old cartoon and comics, and have her constantly make advances towards obi-wan whenever she fights him
>yeah, and we'll deliberately make her sexy too
>and she'll strip off her clothes half the time in front of him as well
>yes, I know this is supposed to be a kids show
APOLOGIZE
>yeah, and we'll deliberately make her sexy too
When? Ventress in TCW was a downgrade.
both are good
No, one is good and it ain't the anorexic, post-wall-looking bald Angelina Jolie.
wrong.
Weird way to spell 'correct.'
>my feet hurt
>why is she even posing with me like this
>goddamn ventress why did you have to put on the skintight bodysuit for this, you know im almost triple your age
>why are our lightsabers ignited, this could be dangerous
>I hope sidious doesnt walk in on us right now
where does one acquire models like this
asking for my dick
i want cover ventress' bald head in my cum and have shin lick it clean
.
>mew wears rape goggles
Bros I’m scared
>What is star glare
You should be banned for your Reddit shit
stars arent visible in space. look at any video from nasa or pictures on moon. astronauts couldnt see any stars. pure black.
ok conspiratard
how would people in a galaxy far far away a long time ago know about ww2?
it's Wookie Wars I you imbecile
This post reeks of putrid redditardation.
>dude reddit reddit dude dude dude reddit hey reddit it's reddit dude reddit reddit
To be fair Ahsoka stopped being a Mary Sue after season 2 and further.
1-2, totally, yeah
>1-2, totally, yeah
No, she wasn't.
https://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/Ahsoka%20mary%20sue/order/asc/
I can't find a single person in ancient discussions on this board that disagrees with that.
>searches specifically for assmad dumbfricks with the keywords "ahsoka mary sue"
Wait, did you really think you were smart?
>that opinion cannot exist
>ignore that among those hundreds of results no one is denying she's not a mary sue
wow, you're really that dumb?
it's like you randomly type words in your replies
> specifically for assmad dumbfricks
You really must be too young to remember. Because really the fandom attitude about Ahsoka was that she was a needless OC inserted into Star Wars so there's more cartoon content for kids. Of course that will never compute for you, since you were one of those kids.
>Ahsoka isn't a Mary Sue, u-uh, LOOK she got captured once, see?
So did Rey lmao
>once
Far, far more than once. That's besides the fact that she actually trained, learned, made mistakes, needed rescue and guidance from older, experienced and more competent characters, etc.
>so did Rey lmao
Rey allowed herself to be captured. And in the first movie when she was "captured" she got out of it on her own. She somehow knew mind-trick on the next day after she learned of the Force's existence, and she successfully mind-tricked a stormtrooper on her first try into releasing her. Without any prior training. So her capture is irrelevant. You are a dishonest mongoloid. Which isn't surprising at all.
>Far, far more than once
How many times in season to two?
You fricking cretin.
>he watched Yidsney shit.
All I needed to know.
>she actually trained, learned, made mistakes, needed rescue and guidance from older, experienced and more competent characters, etc.
Must've missed that part seeing how none of this happened. They literally timeskip her so she's wouldn't be annoying anymore without the writers actually having to do their jobs.
>a mary sue cannot have one moment of vulnerability among her consistent perfection in a show
wow, reddit moment
lmao the spammer who defends reddit all day is racist
like clockwork, funny how he used a new image today maybe I should've not pointed his patterns last time
The problem with ahsoka is that shes both a mary sue, and not a mary sue
if you watch her stuff in order of release, you'll notice the following pattern happens
>ahsoka either just does something she didnt have before, or fights an opponent way above her grade and doesnt get stomped instantly
>content after either explains this, or has her get stomped by weaker opponents
>repeat
examples:
>ahsoka fights vader and doesnt get killed in 3 seconds
>gets fended off by marrok and beaten by baylan
>ahsoka defends against way more clones than jedi masters in order 66 and lives
>ToTJ explains that shes specifically trained against that maneauver the clones used on her
The problem with you is that your brain isn't developed enough.
Show is a 6/10 hard carried by the villains. Ahsoka and Sabine are both boring as all frick and can't fricking act. That entire meeting with Ezra was fricking hilarious "Oh hi you are alive I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Nice to see you I guess. Yeah".
>filtered by the story
wow, it's like with the prequels all again where people called you a conspiracy theorist and insane for explaining them the actual plot
>prequel apologist
Story is trash you fricking moron stop coping already. Barely anyone watches this shit.
This.
>Excellent:
Baylon, Shin, Enoch, Thrawn, Anakin
>Good:
Morgan Ellsbeth, Ezra, Death Troopers
>Ok:
Droid, Mew, Jacen Solo
>Mediocre/ boring:
Sabine, Ahsoka
A Shin/ Baylon show would be the way to go
I never watched the cartoons. Were Sabine and Ahsoka as boring there as they are in this show?
Sabine was about the same. Ahsoka wasn’t though. At least not jn the clone wars.
Yeah the contrast is insane. When the good guys are on the screen, most of the time it's boring, feels like the plot is not moving, and the shows tone feels like it's just Rebels season 5 despite them taking slow and trying to appear stoic. When the "bad" guys are on the screen, it's completely opposite and the show is kinda interesting again for a brief time. Wish this show was about Shin and Baylan as antiheroes, but such show would never get approved under the Disney
I miss 2000s star wars bros
>he was filtered by the prequels
like clockwork
Let me remind you why you the SW OT purists are moronic: they also worship the EU.
It's a matter of fanboyism with them, nothing less, a desire to feel superior to others.
The irony is in the lack of self-awareness.
How did Filoni strike gold with these two though? Pure luck?
Everybody was telling them to do cool evil Jedi for fricking years.
>Bland, fat, stoic non-entity and waifu bait
>But he said history repeats sometimes! So wise!
>And...and he says it's ok to do bad stuff for the greater good! Now that's MATURE!
Mediocre white man with bargain bin philosophizing a d his-admittedly cute but boring sidekick
good morning sar
I'm actually Asian but I can imagine you pigskin being mad at my superior genes. Higher IQ and better phenotype. Look at all the women lusting after Zoro. What women lusts over your flabby, nintendo-playing white ass. Kek
I'm Mensa certified and IQ is pseudoscience.
>Asian
>Superior Genes
Lol
don't be racist m8
He's right. Goth Girl so far only exists to ask about information she should know already.
>t. xe/xi
>Cartoonsister is projecting
SAD
The left can't meme.
>Cartoonsisters is crying about the meme being right
Lol
>TCWtrannie calling others making fun of him leftist
Now this is funny.
>strike gold
Filoni has been consistently good at making the only decent Star Wars, though. So that's not really "striking gold." It's called consistency.
yeah, consistently shit
Anon, just out of idle curiosity, why don't you like Filoni? There has to be an inciting incident.
It's just good actors and good costuming. Objectively nothing noteworthy about the way they are written.
That is disingenuous, do you really think they just let actors improv?
>That is disingenuous
Part and parcel of Cinemaphile. morons here have absolutely zero clue about the things they're talking about.
He ripped SWTOR off.
How?
It's Lana and Valkorion.
They look barely alike (white old man white woman, wow!) and their characters are absolutely nothing alike. So, again, how?
Unfortunately, Kathleen Kennedy views people of color as weak children and therefore she doesn’t allow them to be flawed, evil, have depth, be defeated, or have proper character traits or arcs. This makes all Star Wars media insanely predictable and tedious. The rare time that you actually have a Reva, you just know she’s going to be redeemed or is secretly good the whole time. It’s just boring as frick. Because Shin and Baylon are white, they’re allowed to be dark or flawed or interesting in ways other characters are simply not allowed to be, unfortunately.
Ashoka is just being used to steal Mortis away from the Skywalkers, the Thrawn Trilogy away from the Skywalkers, the Yuzhan Grysk away from the Skywalkers, and then the ultimate goal is to use Ahsoka to once again attempt to get Rey Palpatine over. Everything you are seeing right now is yet another long winded attempt to make Rey a thing. It’s such a waste.
Nooo Wallhsoka please stop force pushing your pee down my throat arglgbgfbgl noooo
I only like the original trilogy and I laugh at all this other garbage.
George is a fat moron that needs wranglers.
EU sucks ass.
Dave Filoni is a homosexual cowboy simp for a shitty orange mary sue.
Disney's crap gives you eye cancer.
Prequels suck.
Sequels suck.
Kathleen Kennedy has a twat smellier than your mother's.
Ahsoka is awful and only useful for coombait.
The comics suck.
Thooks suck.
But some of the games aren't bad.
>OT diehard fan
>Praises the video games which are a dumber version of EU
like clockwork
Their stories are shit but Galactic Battleground and the original Battlefront games were fun. So you two can go cry into your own buttholes and do a headstand in your front yard so you can become a living birdbath.
>But some of the games aren't bad.
>Cinemaphileermin exposes himself
yikes, you have no right to call other stuff garbage when you are the bottom of the barrel slopper who gobbles up cheap shovelware
is it Andor good or just good?
It was "ok" but hard to really care about it/get invested in knowing who made it. Also overrated massively by starwars gays coping (finally a good show!!!!)
liked the mall cops, everyone else can frick off.
It's a serious show. As in characters actually behave like people and not cartoony facsimiles you usually see in Star Wars.
But is it GOOD? Well it's better than the sequel trilogy and most of the shows. Wouldn't call it good though, it's like a 7.5/10 in terms of real television.
no one liked it on Cinemaphile and no one talks about it anymore
gave it a try but shift+deleted it after the 4th episode
/tv/not talking about it usually means something is good
Well then watch it.
If you liked TCW and Rebels then you'll probably like Ahsoka.
>a reasonable opinion on Andor
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
Andor isn’t good, it’s just that everything else is so abysmally shit that in comparison this below mid show looks ok when in reality it is terrible
I'm a chud and I like Ahsoka. Always have, always will.
>love original trilogy
>love prequels
>hate sequels (and don't consider them canon)
>love Genndy's Clone Wars
>love Filoni's Clone Wars
>love Rogue One
>hate Han Solo flick
>love all live-action TV series so far (yes, even Boba Fett and Kenobi)
>love most of the canon comics
>love most of Ostrander's comics
>love Thrawn trilogy books
Am I based?
>love all live-action TV series so far (yes, even Boba Fett and Kenobi)
literally how when you hater the sequels they are literally the same shit
Solo was unironically a better movie than Rogue One, narratively and cinematically speaking
Rogue One had great art design and action scenes, but the direction and lighting is horrible, and the writing is practically nonexistent, plus none of the main protagonists could act (all the side characters and villains could though), it's basically like watching The Matrix 3
Everyone hates the Sequels
>hate Han Solo flick
It's a shitty and heavily abridged re-imagining of AC Crispin's Han Solo trilogy, I enjoyed the first book but can't speak for the rest.
>Hate Han Solo flick
>love all live-action TV series so far
>love Filoni Clone Wars
That makes no sense.
Definitely unique in your shit taste, I’ll give you that
shin!
I just love the aesthetic of pauldrons and gauntlets with a robe. From back in the morrowind days this was the shit. Brown robe and steek pauldron.
The söyboy's idea of "saving star wars" is throwing in as much fan service as humanly possible. Like jingling keys in front of a baby.
>oooOooOooOoo 'member anakin? 'member the clone wars? Yaaaaay!
Wanna know how to "save star wars?"
Take it out back with a shotgun.
>I'm depressed and burnt-out and can't enjoy anything anymore, so you should be too!
No, I don't think I will.
Ironic, considering the only media you can enjoy is nostalgia from your childhood sold back to you. You know, from the last time in your life that you were happy.
Me? I want new things.
I want good things and Filoni doesn't know what good means
Kino.
G(r)ay.
What's the point of those images? You just like to make them?
It's a motion picture not a slideshow of pictures at a gallery.
Like Filoni Disneygays want to look like they enjoy high IQ media.
Learn English, you pathetic third-world subhuman.
I accept your concession, Cartoonsister
I understood perfectly what he communicated. You might have brain damage.
You're also disingenuous, probably autistic.
It's called a cinegrid, lil bro.
It's called peak Reddit.
You're on Cinemaphile, motion pictures are temporal, scene based.
Everyone has seen those screenshots and 23 more each passing second, you're a pleb.
>tourist talking 'bout reddit
Oh, the irony. I wish we could go back to pre-2016, when none of you gaylords knew this place existed.
You're talking to a cartoontrannie who loves Disneyslop like Boob of Boba Fett. He can't make a good response.
Still not watching your slop, homosexual.
Black folk look so stupid with blue contacts. It’s so deeply offputting.
if I were to watch only popular shows I would end up low IQ like the posters itt.
You are low IQ since you waste your life away on Cinemaphile in these threads.
How can I be low IQ since I'm a few deviations above you? Is that the incoherence of mind that you brainlets have?
Dave Filoni is quite talented with drawing.