Are you saying it's boring?
Because I was engaged the entire way to the point I was surprised when it ended because it didn't feel like a long time to me.
Was it meaningfully different from marvel? Seriously the last marvel i watched and tried to pay attention to was captain america winter soldier and dunc seemed about the same.
Had you actually read the books, you'd know most of the text consists of the thoughts and feelings of various characters with little action. Sorry you're an illiterate moron.
Dune is notorious for being a novel that cannot be properly adapted for that very reason, but Villeneuve did quite a good job on this one. The set pieces are boring and minimal like they are in BR 2049, but I can't get too angry about that since Arrakis is, after all, a desert planet with not a lot going on.
>Had you actually read the books, you'd know most of the text consists of the thoughts and feelings of various characters with little action. Sorry you're an illiterate moron.
this should make a movie adaption shorter, not longer. the tension and whatnot should be showed through ACTING instead of constant narration or added scenes or whatever. they should break the movie up into chapters though and have a narrator at the start of each to help info dump and set the scene
its like they have some personal rule against doing things that will work and fix their issues. the narration at the beginning of fellowship of the rings movie is one of the most iconic scenes from the entire trilogy and the intro to each movie are just examples of what im suggesting for a single movie
>post the only thing 20 seconds of the movie resembling capeshit with any shitty cinematography and effects >this means the same applies to the rest of the movie
2 years ago
Anonymous
The rest isn't capeshit but it is, literally, visually shit.
the entire point of fighting with swords and daggers in the universe is because people use personal shields. why arent they using shields? if they arent using shields, why not just shoot the dumb homosexuals? this question still stands even if its a dream sequence
Yeah sci-fi books are boring and do not belong in cinema. I enjoy their premises and plot twists, so it’s fine if directors take SOME things from a book.
I'll admit that it seemed to make sure to touch on all the plotpoints but there was zero soul behind it
It was like a wikipedia plot synopsis in movie form
LOL. I didn't even get bored, I just thought it was bad. The casting was terrible, the acting was flat, the special effects were all used on the ornithopters, it was cringe-level woke, it had no real cohesive set or costume design. It felt like exactly what it was, an older beloved sci-fi novel made profoundly moronic by modern Hollywood.
Arrakeans have a natural dark complexion, so it's not like Zendaya or any other darkie would've made a difference to you morons. You'd all be screeching about woke shit without having read the book.
The post-colonial narrative has no place in Dune. The Fremen framing themselves as victims and the narration in the beginning framing it as Harkonnens surpressing the Fremen were completely out of character and flat out wrong. I realised there and then movie didn't get ir.
>Name one other modern director who could make a high-budget, non-capeshit sci-fi blockbuster in 2021 and still have it as be close to the source material as this was?
I'm not saying the opposite why you repond to my post you fricking moronic Black person homosexual with AIDS
the only difference from the books is the voice machines which was just a quick movie gimic to help explain why the fremen are super warriors all of a sudden that could conquer the galaxy at any time but just havent gotten around to it because of reasons. also explains the very short time frame of their jihad which also is a weak point of the book in my opinion
The jihad doesn't occur in the book. It takes place immediately after it ends. A combination of political maneuvering and control of spice supply is what makes the jihad possible - complete reordering of power throughout the galaxy with Arrakis and the Fremen as the spearhead.
The Voice is a completely separate technique unique to the Bene Gesserit. The idea that it could be wielded by Fremen as if it were some sort of blunt tool to be passed around at random is absolutely moronic. The concept of multiple types of power being used in different ways is absolutely fundamental to Dune's mythology.
You really should stop throwing shit out there and proving your profound ignorance of the material.
youre a dumb moronic Black person homosexual trying too hard to impress internet randos. the bene gesserit literally do have randoms steal their powers in the book ie the matron mothers. the jihad is still an actual war that sees the freman army going to different planets and conquering them in fricking war. its was just some diplomatic thing were paul was like "well i control the spice now so you do what i say or youre going to starve"
the either years or whatever hardly feels long enough for their armies to transport around and depart/load up on their space ships
anyway before you tried to talk about random shit and show what a pseud you are, the single change in the movie is the voice shit, which isnt a big deal and honestly better explains the superiority of the fremen, although its not a change i would like to have seen in the books at all. for the movie its ok though. not great or anything but i see why they did it
the weird voice shit in the lynch movie. its sort of a new tech they have thats never really explained and seems related to the bene gesserit type training but who knows. its a movie thing and ultimately changes nothing and in the short time span of the movie does a better job of why the fremen are suddenly so powerful despite living as dirt people slaves for the last thousands years or whatever for no reason
its like the equivalent of giving mountain warrior afghan chads modern weapons and then sitting back and watching them btfo the most powerful ground force on the plant...oh wait
the fremen aren't weak because they're individually weak and need magic guns to become strong; they're weak because they're not a collective. afghans are a shit analogy, they're inbred morons hiding behind women and children and striking from the shadows. a better analogy would be something like the mongols. mostly harmless when disunified, but when unified capable of taking on empires outnumbered 100:1 out in the field and completely crush them.
the fremen were always going to conquer the known universe in their jihad after they unified. but they needed someone like muad'dib to unify them since they were so fiercely tribal. even long after paul went full-muad'dib and started campaigning against the harkonnen and spreading his word and way of fighting through his acolytes, still the only people who showed up at his sietch to from other tribes were dudes who wanted to kill him to prove their mettle.
I actually can't remember exactly how he eventually convinced them to stop doing that and to follow him into battle unified.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>afghans are a shit analogy
stopped reading. maybe your zoomie loremaster larp works on leddit but i really dont have time for it you moron. go back keep your Black person brained opinions to yourself
2 years ago
Anonymous
mongols trucked arabs so hard they entire civilization collapsed, without even trying. westerners roll over entire nations of them in literal weeks with zero casualties. gibbering shoeless fricking literal morons fighting form another continent without any supply lines asspulling their "strategy" on the spot conquered them during the crusades. arabs are a joke and always have been. literally only way they're able to "fight" at all is, again, by hiding behind women and children and stabbing you in the back when you least expect it. a whole race of mongrels and cowards.
Dune Messiah is set 12 years after Dune, so the Jihad is implied to have taken roughly a decade, which is fitting assuming they hit power centers and got surrenders without boots on the ground from most planets, which with someone of Paul's intellect at the helm is almost a given.
Entirely unsure of what anon1 meant by voice machines though, I don't think he's talking about The Voice.
>Name one other modern director who could make a high-budget, non-capeshit sci-fi blockbuster in 2021 and still have it as be close to the source material as this was
Cameron
They better go weird as frick with the next installment. The throat singer ritual and bdsm spider wasn’t enough to break up the bland desert and interior shots
It feels like this movie was made for me. I was genuinely shocked to see people think it was boring, but whatever. As long as it continues being adapted, I'll keep watching.
Rewriting Paul and Leto into a human-feeling good-guy father-son pair wasn't a good choice, and the guy playing Duncan felt really out of place, like basically just a Marvel character plopped in a different universe. I didn't like his attitude or self-assured humour, he completely clashed with the hyper-professional feel of the setting and characters which was otherwise carried out faithfully - even in Paul and Leto, comparatively.
Only other complaint is that they didn't explain Mentats. I don't want or need every tidbit of worldbuilding to be explained, but literally half of why Paul is special is because he has both Mentat and Bene Gesserit training.
Otherwise it did relatively well at conveying the tone and story, which is quite impressive. Probably the best we're ever going to get out of a Dune adaptation, and people were right decades ago when they said it was unadaptable.
Slam DUNC
Are you saying it's boring?
Because I was engaged the entire way to the point I was surprised when it ended because it didn't feel like a long time to me.
I'm convinced everyone that thought DUNC was boring is a low attention-span chimp that enjoys MCU
Was it meaningfully different from marvel? Seriously the last marvel i watched and tried to pay attention to was captain america winter soldier and dunc seemed about the same.
Boring is wrong word, I would say EMPTY is more accurate.
Had you actually read the books, you'd know most of the text consists of the thoughts and feelings of various characters with little action. Sorry you're an illiterate moron.
you'd think they'd know not to bother adapting things where 90% of it is exposition/inner monologues
just doesn't work
Dune is notorious for being a novel that cannot be properly adapted for that very reason, but Villeneuve did quite a good job on this one. The set pieces are boring and minimal like they are in BR 2049, but I can't get too angry about that since Arrakis is, after all, a desert planet with not a lot going on.
>Had you actually read the books, you'd know most of the text consists of the thoughts and feelings of various characters with little action. Sorry you're an illiterate moron.
this should make a movie adaption shorter, not longer. the tension and whatnot should be showed through ACTING instead of constant narration or added scenes or whatever. they should break the movie up into chapters though and have a narrator at the start of each to help info dump and set the scene
its like they have some personal rule against doing things that will work and fix their issues. the narration at the beginning of fellowship of the rings movie is one of the most iconic scenes from the entire trilogy and the intro to each movie are just examples of what im suggesting for a single movie
>low attention-span chimp that enjoys MCU
You say that like it wasn't Dunc's target audience.
why does he raise his visor and stand still posing in the middle of a battle?
Paul is still young, and he hasn't quite gotten a grasp on the Voice yet. He's having a revelation mid battle.
the director said "how can I turn Dune into capeshit?" and this was what he came up with
Precisely!
wasnt it like a dream/vision
this was a fricking dream sequence jesus
>it's okay if the cinematography and effects are shit if it's a dream sequence
but being shit was all a dream tho
>post the only thing 20 seconds of the movie resembling capeshit with any shitty cinematography and effects
>this means the same applies to the rest of the movie
The rest isn't capeshit but it is, literally, visually shit.
the entire point of fighting with swords and daggers in the universe is because people use personal shields. why arent they using shields? if they arent using shields, why not just shoot the dumb homosexuals? this question still stands even if its a dream sequence
>y-you must enjoy the MCU
Duncgays are so insecure
Yeah sci-fi books are boring and do not belong in cinema. I enjoy their premises and plot twists, so it’s fine if directors take SOME things from a book.
I'll admit that it seemed to make sure to touch on all the plotpoints but there was zero soul behind it
It was like a wikipedia plot synopsis in movie form
LOL. I didn't even get bored, I just thought it was bad. The casting was terrible, the acting was flat, the special effects were all used on the ornithopters, it was cringe-level woke, it had no real cohesive set or costume design. It felt like exactly what it was, an older beloved sci-fi novel made profoundly moronic by modern Hollywood.
Arrakeans have a natural dark complexion, so it's not like Zendaya or any other darkie would've made a difference to you morons. You'd all be screeching about woke shit without having read the book.
you bringing race into this first says a lot about you
He's talking about the image
>it was cringe-level woke
in what way?
how was it woke?
The post-colonial narrative has no place in Dune. The Fremen framing themselves as victims and the narration in the beginning framing it as Harkonnens surpressing the Fremen were completely out of character and flat out wrong. I realised there and then movie didn't get ir.
Yeah, I was quite disappointed.
>faithfully
bwahahahahaha, not this decade
it'd have to be a 12 episode series to adapt the first book
>faithfully
>Black folk
uuuuhhhh
literally every other adaption was better than this movie and more true to the books
>Name one other modern director who could make a high-budget, non-capeshit sci-fi blockbuster in 2021 and still have it as be close to the source material as this was?
I'm not saying the opposite why you repond to my post you fricking moronic Black person homosexual with AIDS
>non-capeshit
>meme replies
You think the lynch movie was closer to the DUNE book than the dennis adaptation?
Yep, you legit haven't seen lynch's dune - that or you haven't read the book.
Please stop pretending to have seen movies you haven't.
your mom's butthole a meme
the only difference from the books is the voice machines which was just a quick movie gimic to help explain why the fremen are super warriors all of a sudden that could conquer the galaxy at any time but just havent gotten around to it because of reasons. also explains the very short time frame of their jihad which also is a weak point of the book in my opinion
The jihad doesn't occur in the book. It takes place immediately after it ends. A combination of political maneuvering and control of spice supply is what makes the jihad possible - complete reordering of power throughout the galaxy with Arrakis and the Fremen as the spearhead.
The Voice is a completely separate technique unique to the Bene Gesserit. The idea that it could be wielded by Fremen as if it were some sort of blunt tool to be passed around at random is absolutely moronic. The concept of multiple types of power being used in different ways is absolutely fundamental to Dune's mythology.
You really should stop throwing shit out there and proving your profound ignorance of the material.
youre a dumb moronic Black person homosexual trying too hard to impress internet randos. the bene gesserit literally do have randoms steal their powers in the book ie the matron mothers. the jihad is still an actual war that sees the freman army going to different planets and conquering them in fricking war. its was just some diplomatic thing were paul was like "well i control the spice now so you do what i say or youre going to starve"
the either years or whatever hardly feels long enough for their armies to transport around and depart/load up on their space ships
anyway before you tried to talk about random shit and show what a pseud you are, the single change in the movie is the voice shit, which isnt a big deal and honestly better explains the superiority of the fremen, although its not a change i would like to have seen in the books at all. for the movie its ok though. not great or anything but i see why they did it
the weird voice shit in the lynch movie. its sort of a new tech they have thats never really explained and seems related to the bene gesserit type training but who knows. its a movie thing and ultimately changes nothing and in the short time span of the movie does a better job of why the fremen are suddenly so powerful despite living as dirt people slaves for the last thousands years or whatever for no reason
its like the equivalent of giving mountain warrior afghan chads modern weapons and then sitting back and watching them btfo the most powerful ground force on the plant...oh wait
meant for
the fremen aren't weak because they're individually weak and need magic guns to become strong; they're weak because they're not a collective. afghans are a shit analogy, they're inbred morons hiding behind women and children and striking from the shadows. a better analogy would be something like the mongols. mostly harmless when disunified, but when unified capable of taking on empires outnumbered 100:1 out in the field and completely crush them.
the fremen were always going to conquer the known universe in their jihad after they unified. but they needed someone like muad'dib to unify them since they were so fiercely tribal. even long after paul went full-muad'dib and started campaigning against the harkonnen and spreading his word and way of fighting through his acolytes, still the only people who showed up at his sietch to from other tribes were dudes who wanted to kill him to prove their mettle.
I actually can't remember exactly how he eventually convinced them to stop doing that and to follow him into battle unified.
>afghans are a shit analogy
stopped reading. maybe your zoomie loremaster larp works on leddit but i really dont have time for it you moron. go back keep your Black person brained opinions to yourself
mongols trucked arabs so hard they entire civilization collapsed, without even trying. westerners roll over entire nations of them in literal weeks with zero casualties. gibbering shoeless fricking literal morons fighting form another continent without any supply lines asspulling their "strategy" on the spot conquered them during the crusades. arabs are a joke and always have been. literally only way they're able to "fight" at all is, again, by hiding behind women and children and stabbing you in the back when you least expect it. a whole race of mongrels and cowards.
Dune Messiah is set 12 years after Dune, so the Jihad is implied to have taken roughly a decade, which is fitting assuming they hit power centers and got surrenders without boots on the ground from most planets, which with someone of Paul's intellect at the helm is almost a given.
Entirely unsure of what anon1 meant by voice machines though, I don't think he's talking about The Voice.
I liked it
Dont care about muh books if I want the book I'll read it
Farewell
>Name one other modern director who could make a high-budget, non-capeshit sci-fi blockbuster in 2021 and still have it as be close to the source material as this was
Cameron
>faithfully
They better go weird as frick with the next installment. The throat singer ritual and bdsm spider wasn’t enough to break up the bland desert and interior shots
It feels like this movie was made for me. I was genuinely shocked to see people think it was boring, but whatever. As long as it continues being adapted, I'll keep watching.
Rewriting Paul and Leto into a human-feeling good-guy father-son pair wasn't a good choice, and the guy playing Duncan felt really out of place, like basically just a Marvel character plopped in a different universe. I didn't like his attitude or self-assured humour, he completely clashed with the hyper-professional feel of the setting and characters which was otherwise carried out faithfully - even in Paul and Leto, comparatively.
Only other complaint is that they didn't explain Mentats. I don't want or need every tidbit of worldbuilding to be explained, but literally half of why Paul is special is because he has both Mentat and Bene Gesserit training.
Otherwise it did relatively well at conveying the tone and story, which is quite impressive. Probably the best we're ever going to get out of a Dune adaptation, and people were right decades ago when they said it was unadaptable.
never read books
movie was great
I hope he fricks his mom cuz Zendaya is ugly as frick (yeah zoomers, you have shit taste)
That fan-made poster has more color than the entire movie
mommy
>movie finally hits the TV channels
>frick yeah Dunc!
>10 mins in
>ZzzzzzZzzzzzZzzzzz
Honestly best night aid in years
i've never seen a movie's quality drop so hard in the second half before
Just like the book, then.
Wait till you get to the rushed as frick ending of the first book.
One minute he's lost everyone, then 4 chapters later oh no everyone relevant is back and I killed all my enemies.
if you like the baron which book is he the best in?
lol
How good is DUNC's soundtrack compared to David Lynch's version?
Who knew that dividing one book into two movies would result in a draw out snooze fest.