I think the TV show should explore the more kind natured part of the Dursley's. They should focus on the bad stuff when it relates to Harry, but like the deleted scenes in the movies they should explore Petunia's reaction to her sister's death, maybe include some flashbacks of Vernon and Petunia enjoying Harry as a baby and playing with him and Dudley. Maybe they could lean into implying that their mean spiritedness towards Harry wasn't out of some random hatred for him but out of caution, trying to keep him away from magic since it was magic that got his parents killed, and they secretly do care about him
There is 0 subtlety in Harry Potter, dursleys hated Harry since he was a baby. Like what could possibly justify putting a child in a broom closet without ventilation when you have three bedrooms. The bad guys are called death eaters ffs
> they secretly do care about him
But they don’t. Their hatred of them isn’t in his best interest. What does forcing him to sleep in a cupboard under the stairs when there is a spare bedroom available do to curb his tendencies toward magic? And Petunia knows enough about the magic in this universe to know that you either a wizard or you aren’t. If they simply wanted him to stay away from the wizarding world because they feared how it may effect his safety, it would make more sense to shower him with affection and tell him about the magical world but paint it as a horrible place. Making his life hell and pushing him to wish for an escape from his horrific situation is the exact opposite thing they should be doing.
The spare bedroom thing is fricked, but generally I can see why it might at least be upsetting, having a baby dropped off at your doorstep when five weeks ago you just had your own baby. As a tax paying adult, it's upsetting that you now have to provide for not one but two kids. That doesn't justify the cruelty, but it at least makes it understandable why they might have somewhat resented Harry and his parents.
Petunia was probably 23-24 when her sister Lily 20-21 died, and that's young enough that I can see her starting to regret the way she called her sister a freak for having magic. One important thing to remember is that Harry really could have been dumped off at an orphanage if the Dursley's wanted him, but something made them keep him.
At the very least they should explore Dudley's opinion on Harry changing by the end of the series, where he likes and respects Harry
> One important thing to remember is that Harry really could have been dumped off at an orphanage if the Dursley's wanted him, but something made them keep him.
It’s strongly implied through the “remember my last” howler that Dumbledore did something manipulative that forced Petunia to keep him. They were set to kick him out of the house and Dumbledore immediately stops them. We never learn what he did, but he clearly did something that had an impact on Petunia
I thought it was that there's some kind of charm on Privet Drive, so Harry is safest there from Voldemort, which means Petunia could have prevented Vernon from kicking Harry out as a protective act for Harry, knowing he's safest there, or maybe Dumbledore really did threaten her, I don't know. Petunia knows a little bit about the magical world, and I think she knows Voldemort is a serious threat, so either Dumbledore threatened to do something even more heinous than Voldemort would do to the Dursleys, if he found them; or Petunia wants Harry to stay there because she cares about him enough to risk Voldemort coming for them. Could be.
> I thought it was that there's some kind of charm on Privet Drive, so Harry is safest there from Voldemort
That’s why Dumbledore is invested in keeping Harry there. I also don’t think Petunia outright hates Harry to the extent that she wants him dead, but that’s a far cry from loving him. When Vernon is attempting to kick him out and Petunia basically allows it to happen before Dumbledore puts her in line, she knows Voldemort is gone and probably doesn’t think the charm is as necessary as Dumbledore makes it out to be, he didn’t tell anyone else that he suspected Voldemort to return one day
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Kind of like how Snape treats Harry though. He obviously doesn't love Harry, or even like him at all, but he cares about him enough to risk his life, because he cared about Lily.
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Yeah, that’s about right. Although I think with Snape, he really does want to hate Harry, and he sees so much of James in him that it’s irreconcilable for him. But he also carries the guilt of having been indirectly responsible for Voldemort killing Lily in the first place and views protecting Harry as an act of redemption.
-your sister died
-Harry survived
-Voldemort, the evil wizard who killed her, is defeated, but his followers are still around and might go after him.
-Lily cast a spell to protect Harry and only works if he lives with a blood relative, you all are safe too.
Petunia knew magic was real and that Voldermort was dangerous. She was told the truth and she believed it.
>-Lily cast a spell to protect Harry and only works if he lives with a blood relative, you all are safe too.
thats honestly a great plot device. both makes sure harry survives and that the neglectful family is tied to him, lest they be their own undoing. it also makes me think that yes, petunia was probably the most aware of their situation, since wizards frequently speak about how voldemort wiped out entire families, implying petunia's family would be hunted
Also, Petunia had sent a letter to Dumbledore when she was a child asking to be let into Hogwarts like her sister, and Dumbledore had written back explaining it wasn't possible. Her hatred of Lily started soon after that out of envy.
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How come Lily was allowed in and Petunia wasn't? They were both muggles right?
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Muggle born, but only Petunia was an actual muggle. Lily had magic, so she was allowed in. Petunia was just jealous she wasn't special.
>but something made them keep him.
Dumbledore's letter said that they needed to keep him otherwise he was in danger. Considering Lily and James were just killed, it makes all sense that Petunia didn't want to be responsible for her nephew's death. Dumbledore reminds Harry this when he says they hated him: "she took you in". Petunia could have said she didn't believe in magic, that she didn't mind Harry, or that Voldemort was already dead, so why would she care? She did care.
>At the very least they should explore Dudley's opinion on Harry changing by the end of the series, where he likes and respects Harry
Because Harry saved his life.
> they secretly do care about him
But they don’t. Their hatred of them isn’t in his best interest. What does forcing him to sleep in a cupboard under the stairs when there is a spare bedroom available do to curb his tendencies toward magic? And Petunia knows enough about the magic in this universe to know that you either a wizard or you aren’t. If they simply wanted him to stay away from the wizarding world because they feared how it may effect his safety, it would make more sense to shower him with affection and tell him about the magical world but paint it as a horrible place. Making his life hell and pushing him to wish for an escape from his horrific situation is the exact opposite thing they should be doing.
I think the Petunia should remain a spiteful, hateful b***h. But Vernan and especially Dudley should grow an attachment towards him. They kinda do this in the movies, but they should put a bit more into the TV series.
Reminder that Vernon was always the villain who hated Harry the most. You can even see he's a born c**t based on how his sister that shows up is one too, before she gets Dobson'd by Dobby.
It makes metanarrative sense too, because Rowling has a hysterical fixation on male abusers, being a beaten housewife herself. It's why she's so aggressively anti-troony; she doesn't hate trannies on principle just because they're trannies, she hates them because they're men.
they really are sympathetic characters, wizards are selfish people who skirt by the rules of a regular life. Imagine how fricked in the head you would be if you were aware of a protected group of people who conspire and control your world subversively.
>Imagine how fricked in the head you would be if you were aware of a protected group of people who conspire and control your world subversively.
woah there, bud. Watch it. Cool it with the antisemitism.
>Imagine how fricked in the head you would be if you were aware of a protected group of people who conspire and control your world subversively.
don't have to imagine.
>I think the Petunia should remain a spiteful, hateful b***h. But Vernan and especially Dudley should grow an attachment towards him
That's the opposite, it's Vernon who never has anything but contempt for him, Petunia to some degree has some familial obligation to keep him safe despite hating having to do it.
The more I've thought about it I've realised that trying to add depth to the Dursleys would actually make them more evil. They're fairy tale villains, it's just their nature to be evil. Like you can't hate a lion for eating a zebra, it's just in its nature. If you try to give them a conscience you're basically saying they're capable of self reflection and yet still choose to treat Harry like shit, which is way worse I would argue. Also it wouldn't really make sense to examine the Dursleys in more detail without also examining the affect of their abuse on Harry's psyche as well. In reality, the end result of all the Dursley's abuse would probably be Harry walking into potions class with an AR-15, and that just doesn't really fit the energy of the series.
They already have enough depth. Petunia's actions are driven by pure jealousy because she wasn't special like Lily and she's in denial about that resentment. She hated magic because she couldn't have magic. After that, she chose a man who was an ultra normie to pretend she never wanted anything magical. We found out in final book that she shares this with Snape: they hate Harry because he represents something they never could have and their own actions kept them apart from it. Snape chose the Dark Arts and that eventually pushed Lily away; Petunia could have chosen to stay with her sister and still be part of the Magical World like Hermione's parents or Lupin's mother.
Dudley grew up though and recognized the spoiled bully he had been. I like that bit from Dumbledore in the sixth book when he admonishes the Dursleys for not doing as he asked and treating Harry as part of the family, but as some burden they kept in a closet, but then adds that he's glad Harry was at least spared the appalling damage they inflicted on their actual son, and Vernon and Petunia are completely baffled and don't know what he means.
>They're fairy tale villains
In the first few books yes but from PoA onwards they start to feel more like real people albeit very unpleasant ones. Disappointing that the movies cut Harry's parting with them at the start of Deathly Hallows. It's a very poignant moment and I think it showed a lot of maturity from Harry. Despite everything they were still his family and he wanted them to be safe.
>muh people are real complex individuals with conflicting motives and contradictory behaviors and not black and white good and evil cardboard cutout heroes and villains
They should adapt Vernon meeting Harry's parents for the first time: >She confessed the truth during a tear-stained date, in Vernon’s dark car as they sat overlooking the chip shop where Vernon had just bought them a post-cinema snack. Vernon, as Petunia had expected, was deeply shocked; however, he told Petunia solemnly that he would never hold it against her that she had a freak for a sister, and Petunia threw herself upon him in such violent gratitude that he dropped his battered sausage.
>The first meeting between Lily, her boyfriend James Potter, and the engaged couple, went badly, and the relationship nose-dived from there. James was amused by Vernon, and made the mistake of showing it. Vernon tried to patronise James, asking what car he drove. James described his racing broom. Vernon supposed out loud that wizards had to live on unemployment benefit. James explained about Gringotts, and the fortune his parents had saved there, in solid gold. Vernon could not tell whether he was being made fun of or not, and grew angry. He threw hot soup in James' face, but James handily deflected it with a trusty "expelliarmus." The evening ended with Vernon and Petunia storming out of the restaurant, while Lily burst into tears and James (a little ashamed of himself) promised to make things up with Vernon at the earliest opportunity.
Expelliarmus is a spell that Harry used a lot, and there is nothing Redditors like more is seeing the parents/ancestors of established characters acting exactly like their children/descendants.
It's just like how Harry's patronus was a stag even before he knew that his dad's animagus form was a stag.
Nothing says: "People are more than their blood and ancestry" than having characters exactly resemble their parents and vice-versa.
some people just hate and never stop hating, the fact they never yield is part of what gets them off and they will be like this to the grave, it would be realistic for Dudley to warm up to Harry though because he was such a part of his childhood and he would realize Harry was being treated differently, and he did in a deleted scene
apparently in the books later on they come to a consensus and shake hands but they never truly become family or friends Harry comes by and brings his kids to visit Dudley's kids on holidays but that's about it
They aren't villains, they're blocking figures if anything. How juvenile are you that "he tried to keep me from going to magic school" makes you a villain. Frick you, moron.
>make your nephew sleep in a closet for 11 years despite having TWO empty bedrooms
am I the only one that thinks the cupboard under the stairs looks comfy af?
I never understood why they kept sending him back to the abusive fricking parents but apparently in order for the spell that his mom cast to work to protect Harry Potter from Voldemort he had to live with blood relatives which also begs the question where the frick is all his family on his dad's side I mean they were supposed to be rich weren't they
There was a magick spell renewing his dead moms protection from voldemort which is why he wanted his blood in book 4 to be able to physically touch harry but then the charm was outgrown or something when he left the durseleys in book 5 with the odor of the phonix
What's weirder for me is Harry to grow up being constantly abused and belittled and turn out to be kind and supportive and not a complete dweeb, maybe the love protection his mom cast on him when she died wired him that way.
It’s not real. He doesn’t have to grow up in a way to make sense psychologically. Rowling was a teacher writing a book for children. She gave Harry the traits she valued and wanted kids to value.
It happens, I had a friend growing up whose parents were alcoholic methheads who beat him and all sorts of shit until my family and another friends family just informally adopted him and let him live with us, after high school he joined the french foriegn legion spent 5 years killing durkas in africa then moved back, married his high school girlfriend, and now runs a backpacking store and has 3 kids. Nicest guy and a great dad.
Petunia knew about Voldemort. She freaked out when she heard he had returned, meaning she knew how bad he was during the first war. She hated Harry but she didn't want him to die. When Vernon was close to kick him out, he stood up to him albeit lying about it.
They didn't. Vernon and Petunia die during book 7 right after the ministry falls. Duddly survives because he was out of country on a trip and reaches out to harry years later.
>Jean Southern (born 14 January 1927) is a British actress. She primarily works in TV roles including Our Friends In The North' (1996). She appeared as the lady who operates the trolley in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. She is the oldest surviving actor from any of the Harry Potter movies.
>In the book he doesn't know what the sweets are, but he has money for the first time in his life so he buys something of everything >In the movie, GIVE IT ALL TO ME
After the books, Petunia sent Harry the blanket they found him with when he was a baby, which she saved for whatever reason. Probably because it was something that reminded her of her own dead sister. Harry and Dudley are in speaking terms too. I'd say they reconciled as much as it's possible.
Despite all the animosity between each other, Lily and James went to Petunia and Vernon's wedding and Petunia kept sending the Potter Christmas gifts. Even Vernon remembered they had a nephew called Harry.
> Harry and Dudley are in speaking terms too. I'd say they reconciled as much as it's possible.
Dudley somewhat reconciles with Harry after Harry saved him from the Dementors
reading the beginning of book one you can practically taste the dripping disdain JKR has for anyone who is middle class or suburban or votes conservative
Which upcoming black actress will finally play the role of Hermione and give us the book accurate portrayal we were robbed of with those white supremacist movies.
Sunday is not the rest day. The real rest day is Saturday ie Sabbath.
The Bible never mentioned that it should be officially Sunday. Jesus rose from the dead after Sabbath. Which implies the signifance of keeping it holy.
Sure is.
I'm expecting some stuff in the mail. Heh...
Finest day of the week.
I think the TV show should explore the more kind natured part of the Dursley's. They should focus on the bad stuff when it relates to Harry, but like the deleted scenes in the movies they should explore Petunia's reaction to her sister's death, maybe include some flashbacks of Vernon and Petunia enjoying Harry as a baby and playing with him and Dudley. Maybe they could lean into implying that their mean spiritedness towards Harry wasn't out of some random hatred for him but out of caution, trying to keep him away from magic since it was magic that got his parents killed, and they secretly do care about him
There is 0 subtlety in Harry Potter, dursleys hated Harry since he was a baby. Like what could possibly justify putting a child in a broom closet without ventilation when you have three bedrooms. The bad guys are called death eaters ffs
The spare bedroom thing is fricked, but generally I can see why it might at least be upsetting, having a baby dropped off at your doorstep when five weeks ago you just had your own baby. As a tax paying adult, it's upsetting that you now have to provide for not one but two kids. That doesn't justify the cruelty, but it at least makes it understandable why they might have somewhat resented Harry and his parents.
Petunia was probably 23-24 when her sister Lily 20-21 died, and that's young enough that I can see her starting to regret the way she called her sister a freak for having magic. One important thing to remember is that Harry really could have been dumped off at an orphanage if the Dursley's wanted him, but something made them keep him.
At the very least they should explore Dudley's opinion on Harry changing by the end of the series, where he likes and respects Harry
> One important thing to remember is that Harry really could have been dumped off at an orphanage if the Dursley's wanted him, but something made them keep him.
It’s strongly implied through the “remember my last” howler that Dumbledore did something manipulative that forced Petunia to keep him. They were set to kick him out of the house and Dumbledore immediately stops them. We never learn what he did, but he clearly did something that had an impact on Petunia
I thought it was that there's some kind of charm on Privet Drive, so Harry is safest there from Voldemort, which means Petunia could have prevented Vernon from kicking Harry out as a protective act for Harry, knowing he's safest there, or maybe Dumbledore really did threaten her, I don't know. Petunia knows a little bit about the magical world, and I think she knows Voldemort is a serious threat, so either Dumbledore threatened to do something even more heinous than Voldemort would do to the Dursleys, if he found them; or Petunia wants Harry to stay there because she cares about him enough to risk Voldemort coming for them. Could be.
> I thought it was that there's some kind of charm on Privet Drive, so Harry is safest there from Voldemort
That’s why Dumbledore is invested in keeping Harry there. I also don’t think Petunia outright hates Harry to the extent that she wants him dead, but that’s a far cry from loving him. When Vernon is attempting to kick him out and Petunia basically allows it to happen before Dumbledore puts her in line, she knows Voldemort is gone and probably doesn’t think the charm is as necessary as Dumbledore makes it out to be, he didn’t tell anyone else that he suspected Voldemort to return one day
Kind of like how Snape treats Harry though. He obviously doesn't love Harry, or even like him at all, but he cares about him enough to risk his life, because he cared about Lily.
Yeah, that’s about right. Although I think with Snape, he really does want to hate Harry, and he sees so much of James in him that it’s irreconcilable for him. But he also carries the guilt of having been indirectly responsible for Voldemort killing Lily in the first place and views protecting Harry as an act of redemption.
There was nothing manipulative.
-your sister died
-Harry survived
-Voldemort, the evil wizard who killed her, is defeated, but his followers are still around and might go after him.
-Lily cast a spell to protect Harry and only works if he lives with a blood relative, you all are safe too.
Petunia knew magic was real and that Voldermort was dangerous. She was told the truth and she believed it.
>-Lily cast a spell to protect Harry and only works if he lives with a blood relative, you all are safe too.
thats honestly a great plot device. both makes sure harry survives and that the neglectful family is tied to him, lest they be their own undoing. it also makes me think that yes, petunia was probably the most aware of their situation, since wizards frequently speak about how voldemort wiped out entire families, implying petunia's family would be hunted
Also, Petunia had sent a letter to Dumbledore when she was a child asking to be let into Hogwarts like her sister, and Dumbledore had written back explaining it wasn't possible. Her hatred of Lily started soon after that out of envy.
How come Lily was allowed in and Petunia wasn't? They were both muggles right?
Muggle born, but only Petunia was an actual muggle. Lily had magic, so she was allowed in. Petunia was just jealous she wasn't special.
Lily was magical, Petunia was not.
>but something made them keep him.
Dumbledore's letter said that they needed to keep him otherwise he was in danger. Considering Lily and James were just killed, it makes all sense that Petunia didn't want to be responsible for her nephew's death. Dumbledore reminds Harry this when he says they hated him: "she took you in". Petunia could have said she didn't believe in magic, that she didn't mind Harry, or that Voldemort was already dead, so why would she care? She did care.
>At the very least they should explore Dudley's opinion on Harry changing by the end of the series, where he likes and respects Harry
Because Harry saved his life.
> they secretly do care about him
But they don’t. Their hatred of them isn’t in his best interest. What does forcing him to sleep in a cupboard under the stairs when there is a spare bedroom available do to curb his tendencies toward magic? And Petunia knows enough about the magic in this universe to know that you either a wizard or you aren’t. If they simply wanted him to stay away from the wizarding world because they feared how it may effect his safety, it would make more sense to shower him with affection and tell him about the magical world but paint it as a horrible place. Making his life hell and pushing him to wish for an escape from his horrific situation is the exact opposite thing they should be doing.
They gave him a room pretty early in the series I think
They strongarmed into giving him a room by Dumbledore.
They gave Harry a room after the letters began arriving addressed to him in the cupboard under the stairs.
yeah after he had learned magic and had the protection of Hagrid looming over them, it was out of fear not compassion.
That's what makes it a good children's book, its on the face petty justice.
I think the Petunia should remain a spiteful, hateful b***h. But Vernan and especially Dudley should grow an attachment towards him. They kinda do this in the movies, but they should put a bit more into the TV series.
Reminder that Vernon was always the villain who hated Harry the most. You can even see he's a born c**t based on how his sister that shows up is one too, before she gets Dobson'd by Dobby.
It makes metanarrative sense too, because Rowling has a hysterical fixation on male abusers, being a beaten housewife herself. It's why she's so aggressively anti-troony; she doesn't hate trannies on principle just because they're trannies, she hates them because they're men.
See these deleted scenes, straight from the book:
Your response, Vernonsoys?
Vernon did nothing wrong, wizardry is powered by the devil himself and his nephew is a wretched insult to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ
they really are sympathetic characters, wizards are selfish people who skirt by the rules of a regular life. Imagine how fricked in the head you would be if you were aware of a protected group of people who conspire and control your world subversively.
>Imagine how fricked in the head you would be if you were aware of a protected group of people who conspire and control your world subversively.
woah there, bud. Watch it. Cool it with the antisemitism.
expecto shabbat!
>Imagine how fricked in the head you would be if you were aware of a protected group of people who conspire and control your world subversively.
don't have to imagine.
>I think the Petunia should remain a spiteful, hateful b***h. But Vernan and especially Dudley should grow an attachment towards him
That's the opposite, it's Vernon who never has anything but contempt for him, Petunia to some degree has some familial obligation to keep him safe despite hating having to do it.
The more I've thought about it I've realised that trying to add depth to the Dursleys would actually make them more evil. They're fairy tale villains, it's just their nature to be evil. Like you can't hate a lion for eating a zebra, it's just in its nature. If you try to give them a conscience you're basically saying they're capable of self reflection and yet still choose to treat Harry like shit, which is way worse I would argue. Also it wouldn't really make sense to examine the Dursleys in more detail without also examining the affect of their abuse on Harry's psyche as well. In reality, the end result of all the Dursley's abuse would probably be Harry walking into potions class with an AR-15, and that just doesn't really fit the energy of the series.
They already have enough depth. Petunia's actions are driven by pure jealousy because she wasn't special like Lily and she's in denial about that resentment. She hated magic because she couldn't have magic. After that, she chose a man who was an ultra normie to pretend she never wanted anything magical. We found out in final book that she shares this with Snape: they hate Harry because he represents something they never could have and their own actions kept them apart from it. Snape chose the Dark Arts and that eventually pushed Lily away; Petunia could have chosen to stay with her sister and still be part of the Magical World like Hermione's parents or Lupin's mother.
Vernon was a dick, Petunia was scared for her life, and Dudley was just a spoiled brat
Dudley grew up though and recognized the spoiled bully he had been. I like that bit from Dumbledore in the sixth book when he admonishes the Dursleys for not doing as he asked and treating Harry as part of the family, but as some burden they kept in a closet, but then adds that he's glad Harry was at least spared the appalling damage they inflicted on their actual son, and Vernon and Petunia are completely baffled and don't know what he means.
>They're fairy tale villains
In the first few books yes but from PoA onwards they start to feel more like real people albeit very unpleasant ones. Disappointing that the movies cut Harry's parting with them at the start of Deathly Hallows. It's a very poignant moment and I think it showed a lot of maturity from Harry. Despite everything they were still his family and he wanted them to be safe.
>Disappointing that the movies cut Harry's parting with them at the start of Deathly Hallows
it was filmed and released as a deleted scene
>muh gray moral ambiguity
>muh people are real complex individuals with conflicting motives and contradictory behaviors and not black and white good and evil cardboard cutout heroes and villains
They should adapt Vernon meeting Harry's parents for the first time:
>She confessed the truth during a tear-stained date, in Vernon’s dark car as they sat overlooking the chip shop where Vernon had just bought them a post-cinema snack. Vernon, as Petunia had expected, was deeply shocked; however, he told Petunia solemnly that he would never hold it against her that she had a freak for a sister, and Petunia threw herself upon him in such violent gratitude that he dropped his battered sausage.
>The first meeting between Lily, her boyfriend James Potter, and the engaged couple, went badly, and the relationship nose-dived from there. James was amused by Vernon, and made the mistake of showing it. Vernon tried to patronise James, asking what car he drove. James described his racing broom. Vernon supposed out loud that wizards had to live on unemployment benefit. James explained about Gringotts, and the fortune his parents had saved there, in solid gold. Vernon could not tell whether he was being made fun of or not, and grew angry. He threw hot soup in James' face, but James handily deflected it with a trusty "expelliarmus." The evening ended with Vernon and Petunia storming out of the restaurant, while Lily burst into tears and James (a little ashamed of himself) promised to make things up with Vernon at the earliest opportunity.
What an butthole, frick James, Voldemort did nothing wrong.
>He threw hot soup in James' face, but James handily deflected it with a trusty "expelliarmus."
Holy fricking kek
since when does expelliarmus deflect soup? shouldnt he have cast defendo?
That's not the point; the mental image of any of that actually happening is just outrageously hilarious.
Expelliarmus is a spell that Harry used a lot, and there is nothing Redditors like more is seeing the parents/ancestors of established characters acting exactly like their children/descendants.
It's just like how Harry's patronus was a stag even before he knew that his dad's animagus form was a stag.
Nothing says: "People are more than their blood and ancestry" than having characters exactly resemble their parents and vice-versa.
should have killed vernon tbh, would have been more hilarious. just have 350lbs of fat explode in the parlor
kino
it would be nice to have a Harry Potter TV show but it will be filled with Black folk I bet
some people just hate and never stop hating, the fact they never yield is part of what gets them off and they will be like this to the grave, it would be realistic for Dudley to warm up to Harry though because he was such a part of his childhood and he would realize Harry was being treated differently, and he did in a deleted scene
apparently in the books later on they come to a consensus and shake hands but they never truly become family or friends Harry comes by and brings his kids to visit Dudley's kids on holidays but that's about it
i know that dudley wasnt very bright but here he acts like an actual moron, did the dementor incident canonically turn him into one?
willing to bet he has a bit of an existential ptsd. doubtful he knew the full extent of magic prior to that. he's hurt and humbled
he's just british
no no NO frick right off with that le sympathetic villains shit
They aren't villains, they're blocking figures if anything. How juvenile are you that "he tried to keep me from going to magic school" makes you a villain. Frick you, moron.
>make your nephew sleep in a closet for 11 years despite having TWO empty bedrooms
>make your nephew sleep in a closet for 11 years despite having TWO empty bedrooms
am I the only one that thinks the cupboard under the stairs looks comfy af?
do you live under a kitchen sink at the moment?
yeah but it's nowhere as cozy as living in a cupboard in the center hallway of a late 90s south English suburb with a little viewing slot
yeah, the stairs closet is probably an upgrade. go for it bro
no
>they secretly do care about him
anon they kept him in a fricking cupboard
Amazon would deliver the acceptance letter on sundays. Checkmate, ya dried up prune
No singles on sundays
>opens spam folder
if he hated harry so much why not give him up for adoption?
wizard child support money and i think harry was basically a house Black person for the dursleys
lugged these frickers across the pond and nobody takes them not even jamba juice takes these fricker
I never understood why they kept sending him back to the abusive fricking parents but apparently in order for the spell that his mom cast to work to protect Harry Potter from Voldemort he had to live with blood relatives which also begs the question where the frick is all his family on his dad's side I mean they were supposed to be rich weren't they
They were probably all wizards and got murdered idk
There was a magick spell renewing his dead moms protection from voldemort which is why he wanted his blood in book 4 to be able to physically touch harry but then the charm was outgrown or something when he left the durseleys in book 5 with the odor of the phonix
I vaguely remember some shit about Petunia being told by wizards to take care of Harry or else. So she won't have it
What's weirder for me is Harry to grow up being constantly abused and belittled and turn out to be kind and supportive and not a complete dweeb, maybe the love protection his mom cast on him when she died wired him that way.
No he was just a soft little homosexual boy.
No he wasn’t. Malfoy was a soft little homosexual boy. He couldn’t even kill Dumblywumbly to save his own life
Just because Malfoy was soft doesn't mean Harry wasn't soft too, moron.
Yes it does
Oh, shit. My bad.
So then if somebody is a softer little homosexual than Malfoy...that means Malfoy isn't soft either?
It’s not real. He doesn’t have to grow up in a way to make sense psychologically. Rowling was a teacher writing a book for children. She gave Harry the traits she valued and wanted kids to value.
It happens, I had a friend growing up whose parents were alcoholic methheads who beat him and all sorts of shit until my family and another friends family just informally adopted him and let him live with us, after high school he joined the french foriegn legion spent 5 years killing durkas in africa then moved back, married his high school girlfriend, and now runs a backpacking store and has 3 kids. Nicest guy and a great dad.
That was nice of your family.
Petunia knew about Voldemort. She freaked out when she heard he had returned, meaning she knew how bad he was during the first war. She hated Harry but she didn't want him to die. When Vernon was close to kick him out, he stood up to him albeit lying about it.
then he couldn't molest him anymore
>Nephew is a literal fricking wizard.
>Abuse him.
How the frick did they survive all seven books?
They didn't. Vernon and Petunia die during book 7 right after the ministry falls. Duddly survives because he was out of country on a trip and reaches out to harry years later.
Yes they did
The Dursley sequences at the beginning of the first 3 movies were the best thing about this shit series. Dudley and Vernon are pure soul
>WE"LL TAKE THE LOT
Harry 100% deserved all the abuse he received, entitled little prick
He was just flexing on Ron, to establish early on who was the top dog. It’s the same reason why he fricked his sister later on.
>Jean Southern (born 14 January 1927) is a British actress. She primarily works in TV roles including Our Friends In The North' (1996). She appeared as the lady who operates the trolley in Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone. She is the oldest surviving actor from any of the Harry Potter movies.
holy shit. i guess maggie smith has just looked frickin ancient for fifty years
They didn't buy everything. They just bought a bit of every item on the menu.
>In the book he doesn't know what the sweets are, but he has money for the first time in his life so he buys something of everything
>In the movie, GIVE IT ALL TO ME
After the books, Petunia sent Harry the blanket they found him with when he was a baby, which she saved for whatever reason. Probably because it was something that reminded her of her own dead sister. Harry and Dudley are in speaking terms too. I'd say they reconciled as much as it's possible.
Despite all the animosity between each other, Lily and James went to Petunia and Vernon's wedding and Petunia kept sending the Potter Christmas gifts. Even Vernon remembered they had a nephew called Harry.
> Harry and Dudley are in speaking terms too. I'd say they reconciled as much as it's possible.
Dudley somewhat reconciles with Harry after Harry saved him from the Dementors
reading the beginning of book one you can practically taste the dripping disdain JKR has for anyone who is middle class or suburban or votes conservative
>that part in book 3 when Vernon calls for sirius black to be hanged
he's so based
>'ate magic
>'ate sirius
>'ate 'arry
>luv sundays
>luv england
>luv the queen
>simple as
I remember when she made a specific point that Vernon watches Top Gear to emphasize how evil of a thing to do that is.
>In 2016, Vernon most likely voted for the United Kingdom to leave the European Union.
from the wiki
He was brilliant on pie in the sky which funnily enough was shown on Sunday evenings
Why is that, Cinemaphile?
>no jannys on sundays
Finest drills in all of Surrey.
CoolGrunnings
>vernon and three other fat old grunnings employees start a bobsled team
>absolutely no mention of anything magical is made
fund it
Which upcoming black actress will finally play the role of Hermione and give us the book accurate portrayal we were robbed of with those white supremacist movies.
Nice digits
sexo with Aunt Petunia
just looked her up. apparently the actress is a lesbo and 5'8". reasonably tall for a woman. sounds like fun
He did nothing wrong, Harry was an entitled little homosexual.
>WINE ALRIGHT?
Sunday is not the rest day. The real rest day is Saturday ie Sabbath.
The Bible never mentioned that it should be officially Sunday. Jesus rose from the dead after Sabbath. Which implies the signifance of keeping it holy.
>Sunday is not the rest day. The real rest day is Saturday ie Sabbath.
ok Shlomo, whatever you say Shlomo
Dilate, Dursley, ya great troon
do they still get mail on saturdays in britain?
bloody good day innit
Sinday
In my opinion, fayyaf
HarryxPetunia incest fics are the best
Fine gay fun day