>First movie costs $50M, expected to flop.
>Becomes a billion dollar hit.
>Second movie costs $150M, expected to be a hit
>It flops miserably
IMAGINE
>First movie costs $50M, expected to flop. >Becomes a billion dollar hit.
>First movie costs $50M, expected to flop.
>Becomes a billion dollar hit.
>Second movie costs $150M, expected to be a hit
>It flops miserably
IMAGINE
So is this really going to be a musical..?
Yes, and Lady Gaga's Harley Quinn will be the lead character.
I'd watch that for a dollar
>actually getting an Italian girl with a noticeable Tristate accent for Harley
nice
Not confirmed yet but that’s the rumor
And this teaser trailer certainly suggests that rumor is true: https://youtu.be/7Zgttt8Q2Rw [Open]
Also, Joker is largely based on Taxi Driver. After Taxi Driver, Scorsese’s next film was New York, New York an old fashioned movie musical
https://youtu.be/ge7NiJuSpac
the theme from New York New York became a standard for Frank Sinatra. https://youtu.be/TK0Vdb1RUCk
The first Joker had multiple Frank Sinatra songs on its soundtrack, and ends with Joker singing “That’s Life.” https://youtu.be/HUgZ7kztPBs
Lady Gaga has made multiple albums of traditional vocal jazz, Frank Sinatra type songs, duets with Tony Bennett
so the answer is DEFINITELY yes
If this does well, does that mean Joker 3 will be a story involving Batman based on Raging Bull?
Honestly, making the budget 150 million seems like a dumb idea.
They should have not made this a musical and not hire someone expensive like Lady Gaga.
Like, you could do a Harley/Joker movie in Arkham and not have it cost so much money.
>IMAGINE
I won't have to
Dont musicals tend to flop in general? I remember back in middle school when I went to see Sweeney Todd and like half of the audience left when they started singing
Bunch of morons don't appreciate art. Fricking hicks.
Musicals don't usually have music I like, get over it.
They can't all be Jesus Christ Superstar
northern Mexico so yeah; if its not disney, capeshit or a jumpscare horror its gonna get ignored
sigh
I'm starting to think latinx can't be civilized...
It kinda depends. Les Mis, A Star Is Born and La La Land did well, In the Heights and the remake of West Side Story didn’t, although I thought it was pretty good just for the production values. The main leads kinda failed to have proper chemistry.
White casts vs Mutts
Established brands and well known casts vs unknown casts with new IP and remake nobody was really clamouring for (and to be fair it was a pure vanity project for Spielberg, he has loved the stage version since he was a kid, iirc)
Musicals tend to be low quality, yeah.
Frick musicals
>half of the audience left when they started singing
does that really happen? I have never seen people leaving (except for one or two people) even when the people is terrible, and one time I went ot see this terrible movie with Robert DeNiro that literally made everyone laugh when the credits started rolling because of how utterly boring it was.
it happened during the cats movie for me, and also my wife and I left 20 minutes into morbius kek
Sweeney Todd was a bit of a bait and switch, it wasn't marketed as a musical at all
I've seen people walk out during lesbian kisses and frontal nudes in college theater but my country is old fashioned like that sometimes.
>I, a child, went to see an R-rated movie and noticed that half of the audience left the theater in the first thirty seconds after realizing the musical they paid to see would have singing
At least try to make the story sound plausible.
In the case of Sweeney Todd I think marketing fricked up. People just saw Johnny Depp and some bloody text and obviously assumed it was a slasher or some shit.
Let's not forget how little Warner Brothers seen of that billion dollars
What do they spend the extra $100M on? Cameos?
Lady Gaga alone probably costs 100M
20 million for the director, 20 mil for Joaquin, 10 mil for Lady Gaga accounts for 50
I doubt they're paying Gaga less than anyone else.
jok2r
Joker2
I didn't want a sequel at all.
It does have the same budget than the last one. Gaga and Joaquin are probably taking a 100M deal
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I can imagine. What more could they do with the character now, especially with a female counterpart? The thing that made Joker so great was that it was the self-contained story of a very lonely and dysfunctional man. Give him his fall, freedom and a friend and he's not a compelling character anymore.
Capeshit is not just dying, it’s being strangled to death by Disney and Warner death grip syndrome style.
No, cinema is just dying
Silly post, this movie will do gangbusters. You don't need to be particularly savvy to realize this either.
The only way this could possibly be good is if the premise is Joker 2 is a fantastical retelling of the events of Joker, romanticized and totally missing the point. A spoof on how the human race (particularly the corporate end) tends to embellish things it doesn't understand. Lady Gaga being the Joker's love interest should be tongue-in-cheek and pull some stupid, tone-deaf "I can fix him!" bullshit normalgays actually believe.
That would be a REALLY ballsy move. The movie would obviously have to have new plot points, but to have the story of Joke 1 told that way from Harley’s point of view would be very interesting. That said, I still don’t think people would get it and would absolutely have the biggest bad faith take of assuming the movie was trying to justify Arthur’s actions rather than see that Harley is wrong.
>First movie costs $50M, expected to flop.
>Becomes a billion dollar hit.
>second movie
>hey guys, this batman fellow has a whole gallery of criminals like the joker
>so i've been thinkin..
>maybe we could do the same with them what we made with joker
>just keep the budget small,get one kinda known name for the main part and the rest some half decent tv actors and some newbie director that thinks outside the box,y'know those artsy-fartsy types
>God knows they'd want the job now that streaming services are bitting the dust
>and there's a truck load of them there's two-face,there's penguin,there's poison ivy, that huge mutant crocodile guy,some guy with a puppet on his hand
>and if the shit works fine
>if not who cares it's only 50mil and we make our money back from dvd sales or something
>i'm telling you we could be doing this shit for years !!!
>........
>[forcefull vacation from top floor window intensifies]
>nah!!!
>let's just doubl-TRIPLE the budget and call it 'Joker 2 Electric Deservaroo' and do the same shit all over again
>and get that troony from that Guggi movie that flopped in it,i need to get my dick wet
yeah anon, House of Gucci is the ONLY place anyone knows Stephanie Germanotta from
Nah,i'm sure they are all singing pa-pa-pa-poke-her-face-pa-pa-pa-poke-her-face ma-ma-mah,doing the vogue and sampling her new fashion product line of buttplugs that is all the rage now.
The only reason people like joker as much as they did was because it was removed as far removed from capeshit as possible and reminded people when we used to have real movie.
A musical is also pretty far removed from capeshit