Flanderization is almost universally considered a bad thing, but has it ever actually improved a show?
Flanderization is almost universally considered a bad thing, but has it ever actually improved a show?
Flanderization is almost universally considered a bad thing, but has it ever actually improved a show?
Dbz
DBZ is a massive downgrade over the OG DB anime.
mostly true, the saiyan saga held up, fight against raditz especially
I think Seinfeld only got better as it went along, but they ended it at the right time before it became too flanderized and ruined itself.
Yeah, I can hardly watch something from season one or two, but the downright cartoony later seasons are great.
most Always Sunny fans think it peaked when they were at their most flanderized
Came to post this. Late Peak Sunny had gross moleman frank, phantom of the opera glue sniffing Charlie, serial killer dennis, and insane closeted christian homosexual Mac.
Forgot about Always Sunny. Did it ever recover from that abysmal Ireland season?
xavier renengade angel. if xavier had remained the same mild mannered slightly airheaded personality he was in episode 1, the show would have never gained the small but persistent following it has
he had a lot of sovl in the first episode
>i'm a survivor, we're a dying breed
tru i like him in the first ep too, but i dont think the show would have had the same staying power if he never became so exaggerated.
>if xavier had remained the same mild mannered slightly airheaded personality he was in episode 1
Did we watch the same show? He went from 0 to 100 the second he first appeared on screen
S2 was a downgrade
Randy in South Park, for a while at least, took a mostly whatever character and just made him increasingly more ridiculous
Steve Brule
also "flanderization" is the most reddit fricking thingimaginable.
Literally Flanders is better for it
Until they went beyond that and he became some bible belt butthole. Zombie writers didn't know that Flanders basic character was supposed to be good guy neighbour who makes Homer look bad by comparison.
I like the shitty TTG more than the original show
Literally the Simpsons. Basically no one thinks season 1 is the best.
Season 1 doesn't count since they were still figuring out everyone's personalities.
You could argue figuring out the characters and flanderisation are the same thing.
holy shit shitson fans are moronic
I mean, the difference basically comes down to if people prefer the change in the character.
I'm glad over time they realized that Flander's mannerisms were actually the result of buried anger followed by an experimental procedure encouraged by his Beatnik parents. Not just part of his personality.
Also then he aged 10-20 years in one episode, they forgot about the Leftorium for years at a time, and would you even know off-hand that he used to be a pharmacist?
Truly pleased the writers took the time to explore all that, and really get to core of the character.
The main change in Flanders is basically a reflection in how they changed writing Homer.
Season 1 Homer is kind of pathetic and insecure about himself, and Flanders exists as a character Homer hates out of resentment, because he's better than Homer..
When they switched to writing Homer as easy going and dumb, as opposed to uptight and dumb, they basically had to completely recontextualise Flander's character to explain why Homer would hate him. So Flanders became "weird and annoying" as opposed to "Homer's neighbour with a better lawnmower".
>experimental procedure encouraged by his Beatnik parents.
Huh?
>He is visited by his childhood psychiatrist, Dr. Foster, who recalls Ned's childhood as an out-of-control brat raised by beatnik parents. Ned's treatment, the University of Minnesota Spankalogical Protocol, involved eight months of continuous spanking by Foster. The treatment worked too well and left Ned unable to express anger until the losses he suffered from the storm made him erupt in repressed violent rage.
>season 8 1996
Weird, glad I don't remember this episode
Weird thing is, they could have cut all the backstory/retcon bullshit and just had a "Ned finally snaps" episode. Even early on he gets into arguments with Homer, he's not 100% chipper all the time.
Watch the fricking show, zommer shit.
>zoomer
Only zoomers are able to watch whichever episode of Simpsons they want. As a millennial, I only saw which episodes were playing on Fox
True millennials had the DVD box sets their Gen X parents bought.
I'm 29 and I know every episode of the first 10 seasons
Sooner or later you ended up watching them
Okay zoomer
Honestly the show fricking sucked from the start and was made by Harvard pedophiles
When Ben Elton joined Blackadder in series 2, he basically decided he was going to strip all of the complexity out of the show, lose the big sets and expensive set pieces, make Edmund the smart one, and Baldrick the stupid one, and it pretty much all worked in the series favour and made it a lot more focused and funny as a sitcom.
Agree, always felt 2 as a remake of 1
Parks and Recreation got wackier and better as it went on, but I don't know if you'd call what happened to it Flanderization.
Awful opinions, don't ever discuss comedy sitcoms ever again
Beavis and Butthead and The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
Saul in Breaking Bad (never saw Better Call Saul).
>Saul in Breaking Bad (never saw Better Call Saul).
One could argue that Better Call Saul is a rare instance of un-Flanderizing a character
Homer Simpson but before he became jerk ass Homer
One could make an argument that Family Guy got funnier when they flanderized the characters.
Maybe it’s just my zoomerhumor but I think Ice King got funnier over time
Ice King is a millennial icon
he didnt really get flanderized though
If anything he was deflanderized when he became Simon. He is at his most ridiculous in the pre-pilot video from the animation contest.
I find inmensely funny and tragic that this homie HAS to suffer in every universe or else the world fricking ends
Flanderization is the natural result of how humor works by playing on the unexpected. A man walking down the stairs is not funny. A man falling down the stairs is funny. But if he fell down every time, it would stop being funny because it would be expected. So then you have an old lady fall down the stairs. Or you have a man fall down the stairs and land on a pie. Now that's kino. At some point it becomes too absurd and escalation is no longer possible. That's why usually the middle period of a sitcom is the best. In the middle they have found what's funny and know how to escalate but they haven't gone full moron yet.
this post is terrible, I want you to reflect on that and do better next time.
Family Guy
30 Rock. S1 feels so fricking different from the other 6 following seasons its crazy. The character are grounded, the antics feel very subdued. However, as the seasons pass and the characters become more outlandish and the situations more crazy the show gets more kino.
American Dad was better later on with the exaggerated characters than in the first couple seasons where it was a generic political cartoon.
Roger works as a character that perpetually and exponentially flanderizes himself instead of where they started at
Boy Meets World
>improved a show
This one here. The Flanderized versions were the funniest AND made for the best stories
It will went downhill when Steve left. At the end it was a real life Simpsons with people falling out of windows and getting electrocuted.
It's so weird watching him in season one. Literally the definition of a flanderized character.
>Show starts
>Keeps running for a while
>Company check what hits or not in the show
>Next season they fix it with new prompts for the characters and episodes
>If keeps working, keep until the audience decline
>Repeat till no audience leave again and cancel the show
What are examples of this happening in reverse? Might that be more common?
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Like every comic character people give a shit about.
From "what if a man dressed up as a bat to fight crime!" to like fifty years of very serious lore and character analysis, that all matters to someone, presumably.
You just posted him. Nobody gives a shit about Kessler.
Family Matters. The crazier Urkel got the better Carl's straight man material was.
It always makes me feel good to think about the c**t actress who played the mom getting so assmad over it changing from Black Family Sitcom #37 to the Urkel Show that she left in the middle of the last season.
I only watched Friends occasionally, but I always hated that homosexual Ross and his will they/won't they plot. Until they came back from London and he went unhinged after ruining his own wedding, then I started finding him hilarious.
Flanders himself. Season 1 Flanders was just some generic yuppie neighbor.