>budget was $15 million
>Marketing should be about the same
>Theaters take 50% cut
>Only grossed 45 million worldwide
It needed to make $60 million to break even...what went wrong?
It's actually really good. You should go see it.
FLOPzilla Minus Fun
I don't enjoy watching Japanese try to act. It's one of the things they are specifically terrible at.
The acting was good in Godzilla. Just saw Die Hard in theaters, not like we act any better.
That and JAV
filtered
this. Nips have no soul so they can't feel emotions
Emotions often mislead and/or hide irrationality, hypocrisy or attempts to manipulate you.
The only time nipasiatics were able to act natural on screen is when they're raping someone. If you've seen the film Vengeance is Mine, you'd understand what I'm taking about.
it wasnt as bad as most japanese "acting" but it certainly was painful to watch at parts. their culture of not showing emotions makes acting hard on them.
I would also add that CGI elements in live-action movies are yet another thing they are (inexplicably) awful at.
This is true. Everyone is praising this movie's effects like "wow this movie looks so good, it's insane the budget was only 15 mil" and no it looks awful sorry. Good movie but it looked cheap.
Why do Japanese movies gross so little? Aren’t movies popular there? There’s 100 million people after all
Between working 90 hours a week and jerking off to cartoons in their iso-cubes, they really don't have a lot of time to get out to the theaters.
1 movie ticket costs roughly $20 or more. Theaters aren't something people in Japan go to for just any reason to kill time.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/653024/japan-average-ticket-price-cinemas/
>Movie theaters in Japan on average charged 1,402 Japanese yen per ticket in 2022. The average ticket price decreased slightly compared to 2021, but remained on a higher level than in earlier years.
That's 10 bucks American. Why turn Cinemaphile into a House of Lies?
1400 yen is really expensive based on their wages and cost of living, in the cities movie tickets can go as high as 2500 yen
After all the fees they charge to book a seat online my IMAX ticket was $20 in the USA.
This one specifically, apparently the marketing and released got fricked because Toho did it themselves and didn't actually know how to go about it.
>Chink hearsay from 2ch
Just don't post next time you third world homosexual.
men have no friends or gf to got to the movies with
Huh, that's true
>Why do Japanese movies gross so little? Aren’t movies popular there?
Japanese culture is infantile, which is why they consume cartoons
Even Japanese mainstream culture is on average mature and complex than American dreck (now more than ever as Hollywood is burdened by culture war woke idiocy that bores people in the US and elsewhere).
You really don’t know a thing about Japanese culture.
It's kind of sad, japanese people don't really enjoy japanese media anymore
they all listen to american music, play american games, watch american movies
TIL kpop is american
This is a complete lie. Top Gun was the only recently popular movie in Japan. Talking about Marvel movies and other アメリカ人に作られたポリコレ映画 makes people call you チー牛.
It made $26 million in Japan. The sauce of the OP pic considers the USA market as "domestic" for every movie, so it made $17 million in the USA and $26 million in Japan on a budget of $15 million. It's only just now getting released in Yurop, Mexico, Australia, etc. this weekend iirc.
First Slam Dunk made 120M in Japan this year. Animation is king.
It's getting an extended theatrical release because of how well it's doing.
>$15 million budget
>needs 4x that to break even
explain this to me
he just did
net will be half of gross, marketing will be roughly equal to budget.
Doesn't necessarily hold true for foreign films.
>marketing will be roughly equal to budget.
This is pure horseshit and you guys just keep repeating it
Just make up numbers until it loses money.
Also
>in one week
Made up as a shitposting tactic. Everyone knows that theatres make their money through concessions yet suddenly they're taking 50% of the box office revenue. Plus nobody knows how much is spent on marketing. Its all just a meme.
This lol
Its a Cope created by Cinemaphile in response to the films they hate actually succeeding st the box office
Consider how they kept moving the goal posts with Barbie
>suddenly they're taking 50% of the box office revenue.
you can google it yourself, mongoloid.
>Arrangements differ. However, the movie studio usually gets 60% of the proceeds from American box offices or anywhere from 20% – 40% overseas. This depends on the film distribution arrangements, agreements, and other costs associated with foreign distribution.
>A studio might make about 60% of a film's ticket sales in the United States, and around 20% to 40% of that on overseas ticket sales. The percentage of revenues an exhibitor gets depends on the contract for each film. Many contracts are intended to help a theater hedge against films that flop at the box office.
do I need to copypaste the entire fricking internet in this thread for you?
fricking subhuman
First, you're already off by ten percent. Not really a good start when you're calling someone mongoloid in your first breath and already wrong in your second. Second, that very clearly says 'might,' which means your source is guessing, estimating, or the rate differs based on movie or studio.
Not him but it looks like he defeated you to bystanders
He thinks every company is Disney and lies about their expenses
Cinemaphile is fricking moronic and has to come up with new math every time a movie it likes does well to make it look like a flop.
chud accounting
>Marketing should be about the same
moron
are you sure? I don't think Japan budgets their movies the same way Hollywood does.
No one has any reliable figures, Godzilla Stan's insist it became a breakaway hit the moment it surpassed it's budget, everyone else applies the usual skepticism.
I haven't seen a single ad for it, in the USA at least.
Word of mouth m'boy.
In Australia the only promotion I saw in the months leading up to it was a trailer for it before ANOTHER Asian film.
For one, filmmaking crew are paid way less.
>budget was $15 million
Unconfirmed. This number came from someone's ass and everyone repeats it.
Makes sense. Shin Godzilla supposedly cost 1 billion yen which is about 7 million and it was successful enough for them to double the budget but that's about it
It sounds appropriate considering the small size of the sets in the film. Also Shin being $20m with a much larger cast.
It was good but I still thought Shin was better. The human characters were very likable for some reason in this one.
>jellywoodcuck thinks every movie costs 200-270m and that needs ridiculous amount of money to break even
Face it, 15m Goji mogged every hollywood blockbuster this year
It really did.
>mfw nihonjin made a better nuke scene than sloppenheimer
The budget is lower.
https://twitter.com/ayanekotunami/status/1733045840825258494
>I don't know where the production costs for Minus One came from, as they say in the U.S. It's heartbreaking to think, ``I wish it were that much.''
$15m seems to be the defacto budget they give to Japanese movies. They did the same with Demon Slayer when the actual budget was 560k
fricking how? I'd honestly say the movie looks as good as any hollywood movie I'm genuinely wondering how they keep costs so low?
Most of the budget in US movies goes to big name actors and to drug dealers and prostitutes.
>I'm genuinely wondering how they keep costs so low?
It's just greenscreens and computer effects, anon. Hardly anything in this movie is really there.
This.
Im rather wondering how come recent Hollywood films are so fricking expensive.
CGI was originally meant for making Scifi or Fantasy with much cheaper costs.
because most of the budget is going to shell companies that don't actually do anything
>I'd honestly say the movie looks as good as any hollywood movie
I know redditors don't go outside but surely you could make it to the theatre
they dont have to reshoot it 20 times because one kid in the focus testing says he didnt like the look of godzilla's tail in 1 scene
shin godzilla was $7m i think. it's crazy how cheap these movies are
Either that, or Hollywood blockbusters are unnaturally high budget.
>it's crazy how cheap these movies are when there are no israelites involved
should be about the same
based on what?
This is what always happens on Cinemaphile.
Something good comes along and you're happy about it, and the next day someone's going to spend their life throwing shit at it.
That's the nature of trolling anon. The key is being contrarian to the majority opinion. Just say the opposite of whatever most anons say and you are guaranteed a healthy supply of (You)s
This is complete bullshit.
Yeah I know, there should be a rule against trolling.
should be about the same
Lol wtf you talking about? This barely got any marketing. This isnt some big Hollywood production where they blow 1.5x the production on marketing. Nor where they pay big 'stars' big money for no fricking reason. This is not a flop at all. Learn how shit works before talking shit gay.
Why did it look like a PS4 game?
>why do computer graphics look like computer graphics?
"Marketing should be about the same"
Doubt.
>have personally convinced 4 guys who have never even seen a Godzilla movie to buy tickets and they all enjoyed it
I'm doing my part
Just got back from watching it with my [s]wife[/s]. She mostly enjoys the Godzilla stuff I bring her with me to watch, but teases that Kong would fix everything.
[s]Yes, she is black[/s]
Side note though, what did you guys think of the sound? I was thinking in Shin Godzilla that they just copy pasted old '54 roars and called it a day. Here, they used the old roars but added a certain crunch to thier mixing. Like they did a mix of the Legendary and '54 in a way I was satisfied with.
If you believe imdb trivia, they played the original roar over loudspeakers and recorded that. So you get the reverb and fullness and natural rough mechanical edge of a loudspeaker mixed in there. imdb is often full of shit and of course there's no source to this trivia but it makes sense.
The fact that you married a black woman calls into question your aesthetic sensibilities and your judgement. You've actually made me reconsider seeing this despite loving Shin Godzilla because it was pure boardroom politics kino.
>[s]
>side note though
Top bait technique ott
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Are these fricking bot posts? I saw a post just like this but the subject of the sentence had a similar $ in front of it. Frick you you data mining Black folk.
i dont trust anyone that capitalizes and uses proper punctuation
Not using capitals is unironically a female thing.
He added the [s] [/s] because he's a moron who doesn't know how to spoiler on Cinemaphile
>$NATION
That's a coding reference
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigil_(computer_programming)
should be about the same
that "fact" comes from the norm for american blockbuster releases, that doesnt mean every single release in the world spends as much
you know nothing about movies and profits and finance. the first 2 weeks are usually 100% for the domestic take and after that the theaters start making money and it can vary depending on how much influence the studio has.
>The cope
why is Cinemaphile always dead on fridays? usually threads about this movie are hitting bump limit
>why is Cinemaphile always dead on fridays?
(other) people have girlfriends and wives
People are busy. Some people here only post on the shitter at work anyway. This time I'm in a bar bathroom.
A 2 minutes piss is not enough to properly take in a thread and formulate a coherent shitpost, then see the reactions to that post
>>Only grossed 45 million worldwide
>It needed to make $60 million to break even...what went wrong?
? Are you moronic?
there's merchandise, blu ray, streaming as well
the film is fine
YOU are the flop
Japs don't play games with numbers, if the budget was $15 million then that's what it actually cost
1. Marketing is almost never the same as the cost of the movie, always much less. The only exception is for blockbuster 200 million dollar budget movies where the marketing budget can, on rare occasion, be very high. Generally for blockbusters the marking budget is 100-150 million, but I have seen the budget for a blockbuster be as high as 200 million before.
2. Generally, for domestic releases in America, theaters take 20% on average. For worldwide releases, theaters take 40-60%, basically 50%.
However, since is a Japanese movie releasing abroad, their finances function may be different from how Hollywood functions. This is just based on what I've heard on how it actually works.
>Film hasn't even been out for two weekends
>Already nearly broke even and is doing so well they extended to release another week internationally
>wHaT WEnT wRonG?
In japan its been over a month amd it hasnt double its budget there, japs just didnt watch it as much as shin godzilla.
Marvel brain rot
I just got back from seeing this. There was a guy actually snoring during it. I was reminded why I don’t go to the movies let alone a low class area theater. The west has 0 patience for anything that deviates from marvel slop.
Marketing is 1/2 budget by US major film standards, which this film doesn't have anyway.
Even if it did - it needed 40 to break even.
>Marketing should be about the same
Doubt
Japanese company don't have enough money for ads for liveaction films.
It's very Hollywood standard way of thinking.
You forget conversion of the currency. Ever 1 USD is 144.82 JP Yen
Your numbers are all off. It needed ot make 500 million to even come close to breaking even. It's over.
should be about the same
That's a moronic assumption. No way marketing for Godzilla Minus One cost the same that its budget because the Japanese, unlike Hollywood, aren't stupid.
It hasn't been released in UK yet. It will make at least 100 million here
Does toho ever distribute in china?
you're forgetting how much Toho makes on loicencing
weebs will be buying these for years
which figure is this?
it's not bandai, not monsterarts
it is the monsterarts fig, it's a marketing pic though
oh, now I see the other articulation joints around the head, legs, torso, hands, only noticed the neck one
I think I will wait for this one and then 3d scan it
the movie is not even out everywhere. The Uk and Brazil release is the 15th. In France it was the 7th. most of south america is even later in December
It’s actually a huge success in what was expected. The limited US release was a LOT bigger than expected.
Wow
>exposes hollywood as a money laundering scheme in your path
>budget was $15 million
false
>Marketing should be about the same
definitely false are you moronic? What the frick are you basing this on? It wasn't even supposed to have a release like this. Even an American movie with a budget like that wouldn't have the same marketing rule of thumb which is never even close to accurate
>Theaters take 50% cut
You have no idea what % Japanese theatres take from Japanese movies and what the revenue split for special foreign releases like this do you?
nobody in history has ever said it wasn't. Why is reddit so obsessed with movie budgets? Fricking dumb consumers, you should be celebrating foreign films being watched not "muh budgets" nobody cares about budgets
>More jap shit pretending the nukes weren't a good thing
It's all so tiresome.
Budget is usually 0.5-1x the production budget
In best case scenario, it only had a ~7.5m budget, in which case it already broke even
What part of 2.5x budget don't you understand?
Toho isn't Hollywood, don't assume it's got a marketing budget equal to its production budget.
should be about the same
.....why?
It was so good. I've seen nearly every zilla film and i'd place -1 up in the top 5 for sure. It's use of the classic theme got my hair to stand on end, amazing. The k-drama love story is a bit much, the cgi at times is very very fake but oh well. Solid, non-pozzed, based af, israelites can't make this kind of film.
>The k-drama love story is a bit much
I cant agree. id go as far in saying that it had the strongest human element of any single godzilla film. it being so dramatic is what prevents it from being boring, like G14, even though I do love that movie as well, it completely fumbles the ball for a compelling human plot when mr white dies. its the polar opposite of Shin, which is also a fantastic film, which continues to prove that Godzilla films arent and shouldnt just be ‘monstas fightin’ to be a great Godzilla movie, despite what dumbass theatergoers seem to think with the legendary films after G14. (and the monster fighting is all worse in KoTM and GvK anyways. frick those flicks.)
it makes people with souls want the mc to win so bad because he was so utterly fricked over in life, and in the end when not only is both he and noriko alive, but he succeeded in saving the lives of all of the others as well, it elicited the strongest emotions from me ive ever felt for characters in a godzilla film.
also as an aside, the score heightened that emotion tenfold. amazing movie.
What marketing, its all word of mouth. It probably broken even by now. In Japan, Toho also own the cinema chains so its virtually 100% receipts for them there.
Hollywood accounting does not apply here as it was not a Hollywood production.
was $15 million
should be about the same
This isn't a Hollywood "movie".
Is there any other board that is as clueless about its own topic of interest as Cinemaphile?
/v/
>Marketing should be about the same
You realise that's only for money laundering Hollywood movies
ah sweet a box office autism thread
This moronic page is counting "domestic" as US box office even for foreign movies.
>what went wrong?
Nothing, it was made for the japanese audiences and it will keep playing into theaters for 6 months there.
Movie only came out in Japan and the US
It'll do great when it comes out in every other country
Budget wasnt 15 million. Was way less thant that.
It is a massive success
I don't care for Godzilla (except the american-designed one) but I'm happy for you godzillagays
I always found the american godzilla design as shit. Too fat
The box office reports are after the theater cut dumbass
>$15 million budget
No fricking way, that's at least a $100 million movie. The CGI is crisp and really detailed
It was less than 15 million according to the director.
>Flop
what is it screening in, 1 in 10 theatres?
1 theater, 1 room, 1 showing/per day for 1 week and that was it in my city.
Suppose I should count myself lucky we got that.
It was less than 15 millions, which makes the mogging even HARDER
I wish I didn't know the budget because it made me more aware of where they had to save money.
I don't think it's that noticeable if you aren't actively aware but when you are you notice how small scenes are and how few sets they have.
The only issue I had is that the waves and splashes in the naval scenes felt way to small for their scale. They did a great job with the Ginza scene by keeping the framing fairly tight.
Gojimbo looked great throughout the entire thing. With Shin there were a few points where his movement looked pretty bad, but you have the "he's supposed to look uncanny" cope for that one.
There was like no marketing at all for this movie.
Toho has never done an actual international release campaign. They generally only budget and market to the domestic audience.
>Pairing the release of Barbie and Oppenheimer
>Not pairing Godzilla and Oppenheimer
>Missed opportunity
Those colors look tasty.
godzesty
Director said the budget was probably closer to 13 million. Also: It's done great in America in spite of like zero marketing.
Don't underestimate the power of merch. Toho is going to make like twice the theatrical run selling figures and toys over the next two years or so as they roll out to the spergs.
>Toho is going to make like twice the theatrical run selling figures and toys
More than that. Screencap from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ_t91h7AZE
It just expanded to more theaters. I get that you spergs like shitting on things but you should probably wait till the theatrical run is over first.
I doubt the marketing was 15 million.
>makes $45m gross already
>had (less than) a $15m budget
>OP thinks it still hasn't breaken even
I don't get what OP is getting at. This movie had barely any marketing for it. It being a Godzilla movie is enough for people to go see it. Then word of mouth gets out its nearly a 10/10 movie, so more people see it. I think they spent most their marketing advertising it in Japan too. I am glad its making a lot of money. Even if it wasn't, it was a great movie. I'll probably watch it a second time tomorrow.
OP is just shitposting about it breaking even. It's not doing as well in Japan as Shin Godzilla did, but it's doing much better abroad. Minus One is a movie that is very accessible and satisfying to international audiences despite having a uniquely Japanese story. Shin Godzilla was more of an experimental/art film that became very acclaimed in Japan due to being topical.
yet another thread about Asians created by a White Black person, and discussed by additional White Black folk.
take 50% cut
why do you lie?
No Eng dub, no watch. It's bad enough forcing yourself to watch these people "act" until you get to the good bit: the carnage. Like americ**ts in those Transformer movies, but even more insipid and soulless.
only $15million?!?!!? the movie actually looked good.
what the frick is hollywood spending their money on?
It delivers on grounds money could never surmise
> Godzilla Minus One
So what will the sequel's title be?
Minus two.
godzilla √(−1)
Godzilla Zero
Hopefully no sequel. Just keep handing Godzilla off to interesting directors to do their own thing with. Continuity has never been that important to Godzilla; even in the Heisei series you can skip around and not get confused. I wish capeshit was like this. Every five or six years I want a different Batman, Spider-Man, Superman, maybe throw in a less popular character if there's a good reason for it. Sequels, remakes, universes, etc. have proven to be a really negative influence on movies imo. I hope Toho doesn't go that route.
Godzilla Minus Two: Microscopic Mayhem
Godzilla Minus Three: Nano-Nuisance Unleashed
Godzilla Minus Four: Pico-Predator Pandemonium
Godzilla Minus Five: Femtometer Frenzy
Godzilla Minus Six: Quantum Quagmire
Godzilla Minus Seven: Subatomic Showdown
Godzilla Minus Eight: Planck-Sized Peril
Godzilla Minus Nine: String Theory Turmoil
Godzilla Minus Ten: Infinitesimal Insanity
godzilla squared
God2illa, ready to rumble
the God, the Zilla and the minus three
Godzilla m 4
G-5
Godzilla: chapter (minus) six
Godzila minus seven
Godzilla Dash eight
Nine minus Godzilla, Part 1
Godzilla minus IX: Part two
this movie was so much ahead of its time
it was released last week
How fast time flies, huh
This is a not a massive american blockbuster you moron, the marketing budget and the theaters cut are not even close to those numbers.
Cinemaphile really does eat up any slop that's Japanese. Fricking embarrassing
>4x budget to break even
The evolution of Cinemaphile lore.