What an episode, what an episode.
Will Ed Baldwin manage to retake control of his ship? Will the russian defector manage to avoid getting shanked? Is the Sojourner going to need rescuing too?
For All Mankind Season 3 Episode 4
What an episode, what an episode.
Will Ed Baldwin manage to retake control of his ship? Will the russian defector manage to avoid getting shanked? Is the Sojourner going to need rescuing too?
just finished, pretty kino
They're going to regain control of the ship and pick up NASA and the Soviets crews, shenanigans will ensue. That's probably gonna take up most of the next episode, maybe landing the episode after. I think Danny won't appreciate having Russkies who killed his parents on board the ship and go even more crazy.
phoenix will pick up survivors and with the extra fuel they'll be able to land, but won't have enough fuel and resources to make the trip back so they'll be stranded on mars until they can produce enough resources or they're send to them for the trip back home, and then the shenanigans will ensue
Someone's still going to get fried siphoning the hydrogen from the russian ship I bet
They haven't mentioned the automated payload NASA sent ahead, I'm not sure it's arrived yet. But that's supposed to be able to make fuel.
100% someone dies
>control of the ship and pick up NASA and the Soviets
KINOMAN is fricking unstoppable!
of the ship and pick up NASA and the Soviets
Control of the ship and pick up NASA and the Soviets, and be the first man in Mars...women just can watch
The science made no fricking sense. I was pissed off the whole episode. Do the writers know how space travel works..... if you don't have enough fuel to decelerate and land on mars, you certainly don't have enough fuel to reverse course and land on earth, you would need double the amount.
And all the talk about hydrogen fuel, but also nuclear engines?? WTF
And why did the russians "overload" their engine for a seven minute burn, fricking moronic, just run it at a normal amount for more time.
Not so hard to fix, just say that "after the rescue, there won't be enough life support" for the russians + whatever ship to last to mars. But so dumb man.....
can any science b***hes confirm?
>And why did the russians "overload" their engine for a seven minute burn, fricking moronic, just run it at a normal amount for more time.
Because they're stupid. They can't even boil water.
>don't have enough fuel to reverse course
They're not reversing course, they're slingshoting around, doing a full orbit around the sun and meeting the Earth after that.
>And all the talk about hydrogen fuel, but also nuclear engines?? WTF
They're using nuclear power to heat the hydrogen and use it as reaction mass. When it goes from frozen solid to a gas, it expands massively, and goes out the nozzles at high speed, producing thrust.
>And why did the russians "overload" their engine for a seven minute burn, fricking moronic, just run it at a normal amount for more time.
A combinaison of the russians being moronic, and maybe needing to hot a very small window, which wouldn't allow them to spread out the Dv too much by doing a longer burn.
Nah
Fair enough I didn't understand the nuclear engine mechanics. Or didn't think of looping back around mars, saving fuel, I guess you could do it, but wouldn't it take the same time to get back to earth, doubling time in space, with additional 5 crew. Seems sus on the consumables front.
Anyway I have a feeling they will all get to Mars somehow anyway (on the hotel ship?), so this won't come into play.
>I guess you could do
This is always the way you do it, landing or not, really. Think about it, the planets aren't stationary in the solar system, they're in orbit. And just like you always use the rotation of the Earth to give you a free speed boost when launching a rocket (this is why rockets -mostly- always launch east), you always use the speed of the planet around the sun as a free boost to get in orbit around the sun. Everything in the solar system is orbiting in the same direction, if you wanted to go the other way, you'd first need to spend fuel canceling the orbital velocity of the planet you just launched from, that's just not feasible for anything as large as a crewed mission.
Thanks, so he is right!
The CG on this ship and for space in general is fricking flawless. I wonder how big their budget it is
Unreal engine footage is making effects shots possible that were unthinkable even a few years ago
>I guess you could do it, but wouldn't it take the same time to get back to earth, doubling time in space, with additional 5 crew. Seems sus on the consumables front.
Yes, this is literally brought up in the show, it's the reason why everyone agreed that Phoenix should have been the one to do the rescue.
> nuclear engine
Thought the ships were using fusion engines?
1) Gravity assist around Mars for free return trajectory to Earth consumes less fuel than using fuel to decelerate on Mars orbit. Think of it this way. They can only decelerate once. They did that to help out the Soviets. They can now only return back to Earth, via gravity assist return.
2) Hydrogen is the propellant for the nuclear fusion engine.
3) Because the whole premise is to get ahead for prestige, its the case for all the rockets in the race
>lol k19 in space
there is no way gorbachev would ok that
>there is no way gorbachev would ok that
Giving a frick about what that moron "think" beyond destroy the CCCP
>And why did the russians "overload" their engine for a seven minute burn, fricking moronic, just run it at a normal amount for more time.
According to female writters only Americans know how "to science" and the soviets only copy bad american machines
Its actually sorta true. You may not realize how soviets operated, but the reality was, soviets were into automation. The people they sent to space weren't scientists/engineers. Most of the soviet tech were automated and cosmonauts were mainly there for the ride.
The big difference with NASA was that most of the astronauts were pilots foremost and wanted to manually control all the spacecrafts. You even see that played out in this series as well, where the captain guy demands that he pilot the spacecraft to mars.
>soviets were into automation
Just to add a bit more, they were into automation/remote navigation and control from the grounds team.
>Its actually sorta true
But Anon...the first artificial satellite, dog,man, woman, were soviets
The Buran was a superion vehicle
Energia rocket was superiot than any current rocket
America can't made a proper space station until now...the soviets put the MIR
Before Musk...the only way to feed astronauts was with soviet technology
But sure Anon, I believe american propaganda too, Can you please put a gay flag?
what are you on about anon. Both space programs in real life made the first ships (I'm talking Mercury era) remotely operated, and just put the astronauts in there. It's only the NASA astronauts who got the suits to give them a window and a stick. I assume the cosmonauts asked for the same, but they didn't get it, not at first. Of course Soyuz can be actually piloted, it's just that the agency doctrines aren't the same.
She did? Because if they had them, they'd be using them to get to Mars. That's the entire reason you build Aldrin Cyclers.
Correct. Can't always spread the Dv out, sometimes you need it as close to an instant change as possible.
Soviet stole nuclear power from US with spies.
Soviet steals US hydrogen nuclear engine with spies.
Whats wrong with that?
>Whats wrong with that?
Nothing in the same way
Americans stole rocket tech from the nazis
Americans steals nazi space tech
Whats wrong with that?
See, you get it
The Soviets did similarly with their fighter jets, especially interceptors. GCI.
They didn't have sufficient delta v to decelerate into a martian capture orbit and land and then return to earth if they rescued the russians, but they are still in a mars encounter trajectory and can use mars's gravity to slingshot back towards earth.
They don't have to completely cancel out their relative velocity.
>And why did the russians "overload" their engine for a seven minute burn
Presumably they based their reactor designs off of info Margo gave them and it seems like either she gave them bad info or they built it to very low quality.
What I meant about "overload" is that why not just run the engine at say 100% for 9 minutes instead of 150% for 6 minutes. It doesn't make sense unless they have some ridiculous/contrived efficiency curve on the engine.
Couldn't say off hand but maybe their trajectory adjustment calculations were so tight they had to accelerate a certain amount in a very short amount of time in order to get the lead?
Small changes in a trajectory can have massive results if they are made early enough, it could be they didn't have enough propellant to accelerate for 9 minutes and without endangering the return mission?
They refuel in earths orbit moron
Actually a good point. Didn't think of that.
> you certainly don't have enough fuel to reverse course
Orbits. How do they work?
I thought they would simply slingshot around Mars and head back to Earth, saving the fuel they’d have used decelerating into Mars orbit.
t. steely eyed missile man
>NAFTA doesn't exist in this timeline because Mexico is fricking communist now
>The rust belt still happens but it's the energy industry instead
It's the little things about this show that keep me coming back
>Mexico is fricking communist now
In this universe Gorbachov don't frick the CCCP and somehow he did the Perestroika without the stupid Glasnot...as all his cabinet recommend back in the day.
>In this universe Gorbachov don't frick the CCCP and somehow he did the Perestroika without the stupid Glasnot...as all his cabinet recommend back in the day.
They also arrested all Solidarity leaders in Poland in 1980, avoided Afghanistan and John Paul II was killed in this timeline as well as Thatcher, removing major factors in resistance to Soviets and causes of their downfall.
Basically Soviets are rolling 6's on all their dice rolls.
>Basically Soviets are rolling 6's on all their dice rolls.
Not in this episode...
yes not in this one, but up to S3 they were extremely lucky
>Basically Soviets are rolling 6's on all their dice rolls.
I am sure writters change Chernobyl to Mars-94 as nuclear chaos that collapse the CCCP
this lil homie on the left is going to become the Alex Jones of his universe, screenshot this shit
He's going to get into politics himself I bet
he'll become the sam hyde of his timeline, his first mass shooting will be at nasa
He's going to be the patsy when the schizos decide to bomb JSC or assassinate the president
What about the UNAbomber? he works for the NASA now?
interesting theory, that hot girl did seem sus as frick
Yep. As soon as she started talking I thought, that’s a honeypot.
They do seem to in shots focus on that statue in the front a lot, I wonder if he's going to see it, get angry and blow it up right there
>It's all a conspiracy man, I was there.
lmao Jamestown truthers. Jimmy is gonna try and shoot up NASA
One gripe I had was that they had a roughly 1000km separation between the ships, that seems really tight and really convenient for the plot, I don't think they'd end up that close without actively trying to fly in formation. I know the speed and trajectory are constrained by the hohmann transfer, but the timing would need to be REALLY close for them to all be this close to each other.
This guy mentionned something about the secondary coolant system, and I can't remember what actually happened to it. Is this guy full of shit or not? Can't remember.
There was a second reactor the Pentagon/DoD put up there to make nukes and iirc Tracey and Gordo connected the malfunctioning reactor to the 2nd's cooling system.
Ofcourse its convenient. In reality, the whole thing wouldn't even take place. Let alone 3 at the same exact time. 1000 km apart = couple of minutes apart in launch. Its not even remotely likely unless its done by a single company or in cooperation with each other. There's no cooperation, no syncronization.
The entire episode was setup in an extremely impossible way.
>This guy mentionned something about the secondary coolant system, and I can't remember what actually happened to it. Is this guy full of shit or not? Can't remember.
The pentagon was secretly bringing a second reactor online at Jamestown so they could produce weapons grade plutonium/ nukes, they took the backup coolant systems offline while they were setting it up when the soviets attacked the base.
I like the lighting. Do they use a mix of CGI and actual models for their ships?
Didn't see any mention of the other presidential assassination attempts that happened historically, that's still on the table in terms of at least rhyming with history
In the last season the air force guy mentions they were complete morons who powered on the second reactor without hooking it up to a secondary coolant system
What's odd is that of all the people up there on the moon, as military he would have likely been one of the only people to have seen the other reactor.
>
This guy mentionned something about the secondary coolant system, and I can't remember what actually happened to it. Is this guy full of shit or not? Can't remember.
There was a secret black box by CIA or Pentagon and secondary reactor to make nukes on Moon.
The conspiracy guy IS right.
There was a 2nd nuclear reactor with its own cooling system, that's what Tracey and Gordo hooked up to save Jamestown. The ex Moon Marine Jamestown truther guy is saying the Jamestown attack was staged so the Soviets and the Americans could divide the Moon and profit from Helium-3 together. At least that's what I got from his ramblings.
Probably
>apple
>soon to be making a fricking car with no steering wheel
>is now saying that the manufacturer can lock you out of your own car due to wrong think
>and that's evil
lol
>no steering wheel
It was a "brave" choice! steering wheel made the experience of driving not as good
If you don't like you can pay $1000USD extra, stop being poor and donate to the ~~*media*~~
Took a look at the trailer again. Sojouner-1 looks damaged but still headed to Mars.
Yea take note of the range based on the last two episodes, they're closer to Mars than Earth. I am guessing they hitch a ride back on Nog Elon's ship.
I just want to watch the entire season in one sitting
same but also im also kind of happy waiting cause it gives me something to look forward to in an otherwise meaningless life
But anon we'd miss out on these comfy weekly threads
Ed really is /ourguy/
>same shills from the Severance thread using the same /ourgoy/ language
This show sucks, yet you keep making these threads. Same for the Severance threads, no one gives a shit about AppleTV garbage.
frick off you homosexual
How much is apple paying you? I doubt its enough to live here in the US.
This. Funny how they tried with prehistoric planet, but got absolutely btfo by dino autism.
>using the same /ourgoy/ language
literally just Cinemaphile language
>/ourguy/ is exclusively for Apple shows
The most newbie fricking thing I've seen in the last 10 years. Lurk more homosexual.
eh, I think the problem is not a lot of anons are watching this show. we had no problems with DARK threads when Netflix shat out the entire seasons
Pay for watch TV like all normies and waggies!!!
Think about the ~~*six gorillonz*~~
>Pay for watch TV
ESl moment
ESI or ESL?
stupid native
>ADHD zoomies can't handle the natural weekly episode tv format
>They freak out not being able to binge the whole season then being able to whine about nothing coming out until a year later
kek, too hilarious
>zoomie
I watched the BSG miniseries air on the Sci Fi channel.
One of the nozzles was fluctuating madly there, what do we think space nerds, how much torque would the asymmetric thrust have created? Seemed a bit strange to me that the ship stayed rock solid, the attitude thrusters didn't even fire
IDK but I do love how one ship feels distinctly Russian while the other feel distinctly private company. The NASA ship looks boring ass frick though.
Can you imagine how big that first stage was that launched that monster into orbit
Even the TV image of its launching didn't capture the scale
I mean I kinda can just picture like 2 Artemis 1 linked together. Now the Artemis Initiative that shits gonna be exciting soon.
What show is that?
If you mean Sojourner, I mean they have the sea dragon rocket in the show's timeline and that fricker was absolutely massive.
I think Margo also mentioned NASA having Adlrin Cyclers in the first episode of the season.
I like Sojourner, I think it looks sick, super realistic for an atmospheric lander. Though in last episode I expected it to dock to a transfer stage or something, because it seems super cramped. I love the lifting body shape.
True, still, I'd imagine that would be a lot of torque
It's just my opinion but I much prefer when we discuss the episodes one at a time instead of whole seasons.
Can happen, but also they can be controlled via TVC
>paying
oh no no no hahahahaha
Should they have put more effort into making the characters look older? 23 years have passed since season 1
Yeah it's most glaring with Danny
25 years, it's late 1994
this looks kino, why havent I heard of this till now.
Because it's on the lamest and most irrelevant streaming service out there
They're doing a terrible job advertising it, noone knows it exists. But it's great, not all of it is space stuff though, there's a bunch of drama on Earth too, more or less interesting and more or less closely related to what's going on in space. Still worth it though.
that too
appletv huh.
hows the space stuff? Like is it The Expanse novels levels of accurate or is it what average joe thinks of space travel?
The ship designs look good though.
Space stuff is really good, no wonder all the space nerds are watching it.
Expanse isn't accurate.The space stuff is actually accurate/possible with current level techs, the problem is the scenarios. Ships being 1000km apart going to Mars is extremely unrealistic, but ofcourse it was created for the drama of it.
Because the show is pozzed
they had an okay 1st season, second and third season were shit but apparently 4th season is picking up?
the second season, especially the finale, was some of the best TV I've seen in recent years, just tied up every plot thread at the same time in brilliant fashion
Gordo and Tracy's arc during the second season was unadulterated kino from beginning to end.
because "this show is pozzed" homosexuals
it's probably because it is actually pozzed and therefore terrible by default, so the other anon probably ignored it which is the correct choice.
Because it's pozzed garbage and they can't even do rocket mechanics right
this is less rocket mechanics and more alternate history
Congratulations you just fell for an advertising thread.
>Fat Engineer specifically says the solar sail gives Sojourner constant acceleration
>when they're passing around the juice box they're in freefall
It's a solar sail, and it's not that big. The acceleration wouldn't be noticeable, the sail is supposed to work over months on end. Here's what it looks like when the ISS is under acceleration when they boost its orbit back up to compensate for drag. The sail's acceleration would be orders of magnitude lower.
That's something I thought while watching, I didn't think a solar sail would give enough thrust to change the state of the race.
the hohmann transfer between earth and mars is eight and a half months long, and they're only gaining eight days, that's comparatively not a lot. The ship are flying in a really tight formation for plot purposes, which it what makes the sail actually change things.
>That woman who can't open her carabiner hook
It's not like this thing has a quick release, it's supposed to take a while to open, for safety.
>Only problem i had was people panicking under situation.
This goes for both of them, but the NASA mission emphasized scientists over pilots, they don't have a lot of crew and they picked the best scientists. I'm pretty sure it's Kelly Baldwin's first time in space. Not too surprised the geologists or whatever they trained to do EVA don't have good reflexes under pressure.
Yes i get they are panicking but please, oh noo i can get the hook of better start pulling the tether, i would be ok if she pulled but started seeing it's not going off and then went back to the safetyhook. People being paralyzed by fear when something coming towards them is annoying me a little bit. At least treat them like characters you don't want to die. Imagine one of the mainchars dying like that.
>People being paralyzed by fear when something coming towards them is annoying me a little bit.
People freeze in real life too.
>Imagine one of the mainchars dying like that.
Main characters are all seasoned astronauts with tons of EVA time under their belt, not some planetary scientist with a few hundred hours of underwater EVA simulation training. That honestly did not bother me that much given that during the previous episode Ed and Margo had a conversation about the value of having people with experience reacting under pressure vs the value of having people who will make good science once on Mars. This is just a consequence of Margo's decision.
Yes it still bothers me but come on you are not just selecting omeganerds vs crazy pilots.
If anything though the Helios guys are even worse
The astronaut chief's reaction to commercial astronaut selection procedures summed it up
In fairness I doubt any of the astronauts on the first Mars mission are new to space.
Are they really going to go with evil Soviets trying to kill defector plot?
This guy sure didn't look in the mood to talk
Isn't that the guy with the scar that led the moon attack?
Not sure, there's a nerd currently on the thread who remembers hopefully.
Yeah the alternate history stuff is really well done
The commander of Zvezda at the time was a short little bald guy, but I'm 99% sure the Dimitri guy who called the defector a dog was the doctor who came to Jamestown.
Same guy you think?
I think so
same guy, good catch
this guy was also in the jamestown crisis as an as a random cosmonaut, so along with this one
they both have something personal against the defector
are these dude bros ever gonna meet again? would be a huge waste if they didn't. maybe they'll meet if Ed's ship has to save nasa, and the same soviet dude could be on board now?
I never know what weird direction they're gonna take the show. I thought the guy warning his daughter on Sojourner was that guy doing a big ruse to get ahead.
i don't follow, you thought the dude warning Ed's daughter was mikhail (soviet from s1), and that would somehow get him ahead with who? i was thinking maybe the soviets knew they were in last, so they orchestrated the explosion to slow nasa down and maybe take their ship, and whoever the dude was on the radio was trying to warn them about that. although seems less likely now after having seen the whole ep, since they all came very close to dying
>i was thinking maybe the soviets knew they were in last, so they orchestrated the explosion to slow nasa down and maybe take their ship
I thought maybe they faked their malfunction before overheating the engines to lure the NASA ship in and then damage it with another engine burn
My thought as well, just a bit heavier. Fake malfunction so either Ed or Kelly come back. Blackmail the other by killing a family member so they come first. But that honestly would be way to bad of a propaganda move.
Kind of pissed they make the soviets look so technological inept. They always had the better tech and engineers, even in the real world just shit goverment and communism.
The Soviets did not have better tech. Their electronics were far behind those in the West and much of their early success in the space race came from having much more lax safety standards than NASA. The Soviets could cover up their mishaps and failures, NASA couldn’t.
>I never know what weird direction they're gonna take the show.
There are three loose ends that are going on since S1
A-Soviets were building something massive under their base on the Moon with lots of digging and red lights. It started in S1 and continued in S2. Was never resolved.
B-there was some secret wiretapping of Jamestown base that never was resolved
C-there are heavy hints that Wilson's gay husband is under surveillance by Soviets or controlled. He very weirdly strongly insisted that she takes his heavy leather suitcase to meetings in S2. Also had handsome gay lovers above his league.
the way the protesters are against fusion technology is so on point. Actually incredible, it's exactly what would/is happen(ing) regarding the shift away from fossil
Even if we had a clean, limitless energy source, people would still be up in arms
>Even if we had a clean, limitless energy source, people would still be up in arms
Stop sucking ~~*corpo*~~ dick
big oil is peak corpo, tf you on about son
shell covered up their climate change research back in the 80s, preferring profits over a liveable planet
>shell covered up their climate change research back in the 80s, preferring profits over a liveable planet
Thanks Rabbi!
mmmmm can I lick the oil off your boots pls sir? omg plsssssssss
Sure but it'll cost you $10
Yes but remember who is our greatest ally!
same shills different day
Only problem i had was people panicking under situation.
That woman who can't open her carabiner hook and then starts pulling on her tether? Just let her keep trying to pull it open and then let her open it but too late, so she dies anyway.
Cosmonaut dying was ok i guess.
But can people fricking duck when a snapped tether is flying in their direction? Like either they portray their speed as way to slow and they are actually faster but people keep staring at snapped tethers moving towards them without moving, pisses me off. Same shit as when the hotel broke down.
Honestly suprised how good this show is still, even when it was produced by apple. There is still a bit of left-politics circle jerking but so little i can ignore it.
Thank you Kinoman.
>That woman who can't open her carabiner hook and then starts pulling on her tether?
I get it's an unexpected situation but how long did she spend looking at the Russian ship drifting towards her before she thought "hm time to start making moves"
>Only problem i had was people panicking under situation.
>That woman who can't open her carabiner hook and then starts pulling on her tether? Just let her keep trying to pull it open and then let her open it but too late, so she dies anyway.
>Cosmonaut dying was ok i guess.
>But can people fricking duck when a snapped tether is flying in their direction?
One of the reasons for death of two NASA astronauts is for future tension, as the number of Cosmonauts and Astronauts is getting even. This could in theory mean that cosmonauts could try to take over the ship.
The helium-3 plot reminded me of this video about how fusion power is unfeasible for the foreseeable future.
season 1 was great
season 2 episode 1 had more lgbt and wokeshit than you can imagine
wtf
copeacabana trumptard
none of that was nearly as bad as the Karen Danny arc in season two, I had to fast forward through these parts
Did people really hate this plotline? I still think it's funny. Danny being a dry drunk rage case who hates his life and is still hung up on a MILF he fricked a decade ago is a strong choice. Same goes for Jimmy Stevens being a chubby, balding, pothead, dumbass who falls in with the conspiracy crowd.
it makes me giggle every time to think that there's really a plotline about Karen's milf pussy game being so bomb-ass that it mentally destroyed this kid for life
It's believable in my opinion.
one of the hottest milfs alive
also disliked that plot line, but I love that it makes morons on the internet seethe. I think Moore was quoted as saying he brought it back because people hated it.
Holy shit I get it now.
the one lgbt character marries a man and has a child with him, as per what gays did back in those days.
is this show any good?
For about five minutes of CGI every episode
yes, it's Ronald D Moore kino
Yes but binge watch it. There happens very little every episode and they blueball hard.
Depends, what do you think of a lesbian republican president
A deeply closeted lesbian republican president
you don't have to be straight to believe in small government
She believes in big NASA actually
Apparently NASA makes a 75 billion dollar profit in 1994. Adjusted for inflation that's 148 Billion in PROFIT. I don't think there is a single government organization in the history of humanity that has ever come close to it. Frick it's 50 billion dollars more than fricking apple makes.
Is that NASA making actual money or its the old "$1 going to NASA returns $10 to public" number?
This is BS, the only way to get this revenue is investing in oil companies and banks
>a single government organization in the history of humanity that has ever come close to it
Google "Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie VOC" learn something new Anon
Is that from selling tech rights or something? Like how people were using video phones but later you see apple newtons being used as video phones
Tech licensing and mining contracts I would assume.
So does that mean a private company launching rockets mean they would get exclusive contracts/rights/licensing?
We know that NotElon wants a humanity that is outside the reach of Earth's government. Does that mean, Martian corporation/libertarian independence is in order?
Imagine if its a precursor to Expanse.
I member this logic...is the same logic behind "Men in black" made money from alien technology
This
Fact is, almost every person I've seen espouse small government is a homosexual
I guess I don't care if the show is about space adventure stuff
I liked the Expanse
>a lesbian republican president
IVANTA TRUMP 2024!
#MAGA2024
Depends. Are you a space autist willing to ignore plot problems and bad characterization because space?
I'm happy I can finally talk about this show.
Also frick Margot for immediately wanting to fricking nationalize helios because they refused to help.
>it's such bullshit that Dev doesn't want to scrap his mission to save the Russians
>you have to force him to do it anyway because I don't want to scrap my mission to save the Russians
Margot is a c**t
Ed made the right call, the Phoenix was best equipped to conduct the rescue. When there's a ship in trouble you turn around to help it, that's been the law of the sea forever. Dev is the c**t for throwing a tantrum and overruling Ed.
NASA specifically has a treaty with the Russians to rescue them. NASA wanted to break that treaty and have a private company who has no treaty with Russians to deal with it. Somehow the private company is the "butthole" when they have no obligation, while NASA is the "hero" for trying to renege on the treaty.
The "law of the sea" is not the law of the space. Specifically, in the law of the space, the law is only applied to different nations and not private entities.
Private companies run on private money funded by the immigrant. NASA runs on tax payer money, of whom the imimgrant likely paid billions in.
An analogy I'd use is something like an armed robbery taking place at a bank and the police wants you to stop the armed robber while they continue to eat their donuts. Then they threaten to arrest you and call you incompetent, butthole, evil for not helping them while they are sitting there 2 feet away from you.
>NASA wanted to break that treaty
NASA didn't want anything, by the time they heard about the situation, Ed as commander of his ship made a decision. Dev has no business overruling the commander of the ship from the safety of earth
In the end he ends up saving everyone else. It's gonna be kino
>NASA didn't want anything, by the time they heard about the situation
LMAO. You're saying NASA was in the blind the entire time? Stop being a fricking moron. NASA knew about the problems, so did the Helios. The resources at NASA far outstrip Helios. NASA choose to pass the baton to Helios in hopes that Helios would do something about the entire situation. That's dereliction of treaty/duty by NASA. Feigning ignorance doesn't get you anywhere since even if Helios was the only one to know this, the Helios could simply pass that off to NASA.
>Ed as commander of his ship made a decision. Dev has no business overruling the commander of the ship from the safety of earth
Ed doesn't work for NASA anymore, he works for Helios. As a person working for Helios, he was overruled by the company's team of engineers whose whole life has been dedicated to getting to Mars.
Ed can become a hero on NASA's dime if he chooses, but then again, he got fricked by NASA for trying to be a hero in the first place.
>As a person working for Helios, he was overruled by the company's team of engineers
They're sitting cozy in a climate controlled office, while he's out there actually in the ship.
Everyone has a choice of matter in this, everyone made their choice, voluntarily. They all know the dangers and the risks involved in this.
Personal pride cannot override a company's of 10K+'s whole mission.
>they all land on mars
>see figure in the distance
>*boards ship and takes off helmet*
>heh, took you long enough
>the law is only applied to different nations and not private entities.
As a worker in the Foreign Affair field this is a real guideline, that is why corporations love the concept of NGOs...frick the private sector
Gov loves NGOs as it allows the Gov to support coups and take actions against others without having others accuse you of being a government. NGOs act as an unofficial wing of the government without the liabilities.
Yes Sir!, you are rigth...I am from a 3 world country, so our perspective is the oppositte for all reason YOU list. Frick corpos!
The way they fricked up Sea Dragon and a few other things makes me feel I shouldn't watch this and get an aneurysm from both inaccuracies and irrelevant drama, but some scenes look pretty good and so does the CGI. Honestly, I don't know. I tried watching it once and quit the very first minute.
You should watch it, because then you will suffer an aneurysm and die, and the world will be free of your insufferably smug pedantic autism
Rude. I would just like for it to be no-fuss.
absolute kino episode
Big picture it makes more sense for NASA to do it anyway. If Helios do it, America beats Russia to Mars, that's only ever going to increase already high tensions. If NASA do it, America and Russia either both go home or both make it to Mars together. Sure, it's a victory for private enterprise over public if Helios get there first, but the stakes of that conflict are a lot lower.
You already know there is one lone gigachad North Korean in that "satellite" they launched earlier to Mars. Going to there without a return for the glory of North Korea.
best korea winning the race for all time
It will be Kim Jong il himself
>You already know there is one lone gigachad North Korean in that "satellite" they launched earlier to Mars. Going to there without a return for the glory of North Korea.
If they would do it, and it would be one of the Kim's the show would be catapulted of one the kino epics of the 21st century.
Imagine best Korea first in Mars, take all the glory and all nasa-America-USSR materials in Mars.
>Imagine best Korea first in Mars, take all the glory and all nasa-America-USSR materials in Mars.
Season 4 is Mars-Korea invading Earth with alien tech found on Mars to liberate it from the filthy clutches of imperialists and traitors of communist revolution.
Frick that would be a amazing twist
What do you think was going through her mind at this very moment
>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH FRICKINGHELIOS AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
the front plate of her helmet huehuehue
>I never got to be the first human being to take a wicked shit on Mars
>I'll do it FOR ALL MANKIND!
Stupid plebs applause
I should have been a housewife
>margot gives soviets the nuclear engine technology
>soviets enter race to mars with the technology
>soviets engines break due to soviet shenanigans
>nooo its helios job to take responsibility for the consequences of my actions
Woman moment.
Can anyone please writte this but in KINOMAN perspective?
Its pretty obvious Helios will pick up both the USA and Soviet crews which will lead to lots of drama but everyone will eventually land on mars together.
The trailer already gives it away that all three groups are on Mars together, but it also shows the damaged NASA ship heading to Mars
I first thought it might just be a composite shot and they added in Mars but the ship is damaged in the same area the Soviet ship hit them.
>ep3
>omg we cant go to mars 3 years ahead of schedule its impossible
>ep4
>fully equipped ship with magic hidden solar sails overtaking helios
good things they gave alls that baldwin kid screentime about him trying frick some thot in his dead parents ex pool. i really didnt want to see all the space stuff in a space show.
I'm hopeful after that last episode we're going to get more space kino than Earth shit.
you will be disappointed
This. Gordos sons are both boring as frick.
yeah. but its not just that. the time jumps are getting insane and they literally are fastforwarding all the interesting stuff. instead of making this season about the inner workings of the 3 groups trying to get to mars by three different approaches (helios - move fast and break things, NASA - slow but backed by the full power of the federal government, soviets - gritty military approach with heavy espionage) they just skipped all that between ep3 and 4.
equipped ship with magic hidden solar sails overtaking helios
just trust women
Dropped this show when they made it to the moon and all the astronauts whined about being stuck on the moon base. Just a bunch of whiny little b***hes. Show's not for me. I dont like whiners.
>the entire soviet space program relies on honeydicking margo
it's so silly it's kino
>the entire soviet space program relies on honeydicking margo
The Roman Empire collapse many times just thanks to women at charge...
Anyone else find it a bit funny that the ipod now exists in 1994?
Even funnier is that apparently IBM stopped making PCs and Windows doesn't exist
According to the supplementary material the Internet is not public yet, not universities only the Gov and military. A best timeline indeed
Ah, they do mention d-mail (e-mail) and I figured it was normal for people to have at least that so that's just an internal government message thing?
Only the Gov can use the internet, some famous guy talk about how important is to allow the public to use it, something to "made available for everyone"...
Confirmation, the Internet is not available to the public just Gov agencies...
?t=149
>some famous guy
Stop being a gay stupid Anon, he is Sir Tim Berners Lee inventor inventor of the WWW
Watched a bit of this earlier. Why did I have to watch some behind the scenes thing to find out 5 Moonrines died on Pathfinder? They should add this stuff in the show where they can.
>Watched a bit of this earlier. Why did I have to watch some behind the scenes thing to find out 5 Moonrines died on Pathfinder? They should add this stuff in the show where they can.
This show is pozzed, they can made something interesting but then it become "too smart" for normies. Then "we need diversity and action for everyone"
Why do you subject yourself to these threads? Every single thread you manage to find yourself posting in it, why?
frick off Tim nobody likes you
>muh internet
yeah it's shit, look around
>Sir Timothy John Berners-Lee OM KBE FRS FREng FRSA DFBCS (born 8 June 1955),[1] also known as TimBL, is an English computer scientist best known as the inventor of the World Wide Web. He is a Professorial Fellow of Computer Science at the University of Oxford[2] and a professor at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT).[3][4] Berners-Lee proposed an information management system on 12 March 1989,[5][6] then implemented the first successful communication between a Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) client and server via the Internet in mid-November
I guess in this show he is just a follower and activist, NASA create the internet 10 years before
>Mexico is communist
>The USSR is living and growing
Our timeline is better than this
Tesla Roadster exists in 1994. So did SpaceX's raptor engine.
They establish that the ape Newton is a lot more fleshed out and seems very popular. It would make more sense that she would be using one of those to paly music than a iPod
>It would make more sense that
Pay for Apple+!!!!!
I unironically do
Baldwin's daughter exploring her native Vietnamese roots..... whatever happened there
WHATEVER HAPPENED THERE?
She made her peace with it when she visited her dad's restaurant and realized what giving up her foster family for a stranger would mean.
It was a poignant moment and somewhat painful if you're part of a immigrant family that has no connection to the country you come from
By the way the guy hit by tether cable should be alive.
He is anchored to the ship and they can pull him in. Partial exposure to vacuum for a minute or two won't kill you.
>the operation jolly roger scene
holy kino
what movie is this from?
It's from Pirates of the Caribbean , the ride not the movie.
I see
>beat to quarters
>not beating to quarters
missed oportunity
kino in any case
what actually is this show from what I've gathered it's just succession but nasa
Basic plot is alternate universe where Soviets landed first on Moon instead and the butterfly effect that causes.
>commies so asshurt National Socialist invented spaceflight they make a fantasy where the USSR beats the USA
no one's watchign this shit.
Havent had a chance to watch the episode with all the other shit dropping today and im late to the part but
>so season 2 is completely irrelevant and they learned no one cares about the women drama and bullshit unrelated to space?
I find that fricking amazing and was hoping that shit show was going to be cancelled. Only to find out they fixed it but keep cramming womyn characters into every sci-fi show.
S2 is an amazing take on the second cold war in 1983
After you fast forward through all the shit that isnt related to it.
Like that one episode about the adopted asian b***h where 35 min of the episode was drama and her finding her culture and the rest was actually about space.
I was so fricking happy when they stuck her in Antartica thinking she was gone from the story and then was pissed when they brought her back.
on the contrary, she was a part of history too, Operation Babylift was real
Where in my post
did i say the asiatic wasn't historically accurate during that time period?
asiatics are korean, not vietnamese
Zipper heads are Korean idiot, asiatics and Charlies are Vietnamese moron.
All asians are asiatics. zipper heads. chinks. japs. All of them. They're all bugs.
what is wrong with you
You'll always be looked as inferior you frickin bug.
Bit rude, eh?
Yellow b***h
t. white trash
I dropped this shit after they introduce the super genius mexican girl, should I give another try?
you can fast forward through that entire plot and still appreciate the spacekino
No, I don't think so. Your sensibilities would be far too offended.
2bh I didn’t dropped it for the inmigrant shit, I dropped it for the bs latinx drama
How is this show? For that matter, how are any of the shows on Apple+?
If you like space and alt-history, this scratches an itch. Everything on Apple TV is pure shit besides this and Severance.
The VU documentary is kino.
How do you get crushed in zero gravity environment?
Mass still exists.
Black Elon did nothing wrong
How woke is this show fellow chuds? It’s an alt-reality about how America needs to put a woman and black astronaut into space before the Russians right? Is it worth watching?
Yes. Next season is gonna be about NASA constructing a dildo in LEO large enough to fit inside your mother.
wouldn't have been a better option to get away from the soviet ship going downwards rather than sideways?