>for some reason be anally annihilated over one of the most acclaimed directors of all time turning one of your most acclaimed books of all time in...

>for some reason be anally annihilated over one of the most acclaimed directors of all time turning one of your most acclaimed books of all time into one of the most acclaimed horror movies of all time
>"I know, I'll show him how it's done with a cheap ABC miniseries!"
What the frick is Stephen King's problem?

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  1. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    the shining film may be good in its own right but it's a piss poor adaptation of the movie

    also this b***h is a lot creepier in the series

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >OH NO, HE ACCIDENTALLY MADE A GOOD MOVIE INSTEAD OF MAKING A "MORE ACCURATE" ADAPTATION OF A BAD BOOK!

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's not what I said

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          >THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I SAID

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >but it's a piss poor adaptation of the movie
      Who cares? Stephen King is a piss-poor writer.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        There's a copypasta about how Kubrick was searching for his next project. I have no idea if it's true or not, but it's a very amusing mental image. He wanted to adapt some book, something recent, maybe. He had a bunch of books in his workspace, he'd read a page or two from the front at random, and if he didn't like the book's "elevator pitch" of itself, tone, basic story setup etc, he'd discard the book by throwing it against the wall, which made a THUNK noise. He disposed of a lot of books in this way, and his assistant, who was in the next room, could hear what he was doing and understood what was going on. THUNK. THUNK. THUNK. Then he picked up The Shining, leafed through it, saw something he liked. A few minutes passed. No THUNK noise. the assistant knew he'd got his story.

        I imagine that he thought the details and the prose were all trash (it is King, after all, and Kubrick is a man of some taste), but he liked the essential ideas and realized that he could impose his own aesthetic on the work. And King is a popular guy nowadays so the film should do well (money-wise) in any event. All this must have been part of his calculation, I should think.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Would

  2. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    This version is a lot more like the book, but it is not as good as the movie.

  3. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >gallagher will hunt glowies and black p*
    based

  4. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I liked both.

  5. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Mallet beats axe.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jack using the same murder weapon as Grady is more appropriate. As above, so below.

  6. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always liked the miniseries as it's faithful to the book. I think the movie is wildly overrated, it's just Jack chewing the scenery for however long the thing is.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      Stephen King is a shit author and the book is bland and boring. The movie is a thousand times better than that drivel.

  7. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Steven King has always just been RL Stine for adults.

  8. 7 months ago
    Anonymous
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      Anonymous
  9. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    He's still seething that Kubrick portrayed King's self insert as the drunk abusive author/husband that he actually is.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      But he's a drunk abusive author/husband in the book?

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but King was pissed at how close to home it hit, it embarrassed him and he took it as a personal jab

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          No, he takes it personal when people change his books plotlines and are successful at it.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        King's beef is the key point that book Jack is a good man that can blame the spirits (booze and ghosts) for everything and redeems himself while movie Jack is an unstable butthole from the outset. Good men don't become alcoholics with anger management issues who beat kids. You can further extrapolate upon this with how little influence the Overlook actually has in the movie, limited to psychologically tormenting people and opening a lock like a lowly poltergeist, compared to King's vision where it was capable of outright possession, flinging chairs, and animating topiary animals. The movie Overlook was a devil on your shoulder whispering in your ear and testing your character, and movie Jack (and by extension, King, according to Kubrick) was weak of character. King hates that Kubrick clearly understood this and not only willfully chose not to indulge his masturbatory pity party, but may have even gone out of his way to insult him through his own work.

        It's hilarious to think about, especially because Kubrick probably became annoyed by King's meddling early in production. It's entirely possibly that spite motivated aspects of the movie.
        >King, for his part, disavowed Nicholson because he thought that, since his part in One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, the viewer would tend to consider him an unstable individual from the beginning. For this reason, King preferred Jon Voight, Michael Moriarty, or Martin Sheen for the role, who would more faithfully represent the profile of the ordinary individual who is gradually driven to madness.[19][20] In any case, from the beginning the writer was told that the actor for the lead role "was not negotiable."[21][22]
        >The script was written by the director himself with the collaboration of novel writer Diane Johnson. Kubrick had rejected the initial version of the draft, written by King, as too literal an adaptation of the novel.[42][43]

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Based Kubrick. Normal people don't just magically become insane because of booze, drugs, evil spirits, etc. Those things just bring out the evil that was already in those people. It's the same reason why The Exorcist from 1973 was criticized by theologians for being absurd and misrepresentative. Being a "good person" who only does evil things because some sort of outside influence is a moral cop-out.

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Based Kubrick. Normal people don't just magically become insane because of booze, drugs, evil spirits, etc. Those things just bring out the evil that was already in those people. It's the same reason why The Exorcist from 1973 was criticized by theologians for being absurd and misrepresentative. Being a "good person" who only does evil things because some sort of outside influence is a moral cop-out.
            Exactly. Kubrick doesn't believe that Jack was a "good" man coming in to the hotel

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >It's the same reason why The Exorcist from 1973 was criticized by theologians for being absurd and misrepresentative.
            They were talking about how the church actually deals with situations like that, it has nothing to do with the themes of the movie. The rest of your post is correct though.

            • 7 months ago
              Anonymous

              Well that's also true, but iirc there was at least one prominent critic who said that blaming evil deeds on devils that physically enter the body and take control against the person's will is an immature way to conceptualize sin and absolve the sinner of guilt.

  10. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    At leats with the miniseries, I can buy Jack Torrance being an average Joe that falls deeper and deeper into madness. Because as good of a film Kubrick's Shining is, I definitely can't buy Nicholson, who already looks like a fricking psychopath even when he's supposed to be sane, slowliy becoming insane.

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >even when he's supposed to be sane
      According to who?

  11. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    >for some reason be anally annihilated over one of the most acclaimed directors of all time
    It's probably King being uncomfortable about the glaring subtext of child abuse that Jack did to Danny. Given that King is a writer with one son...it's the "implication".

    • 7 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the glaring subtext of child abuse
      There's no subtext, he outright says he hurt him.

      • 7 months ago
        Anonymous

        >There's no subtext, he outright says he hurt him.
        He doesn't outright say he sexually abused him, but the subtext is very clear in the movie.

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          Explain

          • 7 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Explain
            Danny talking to the psychologist without pants
            Danny sitting on the bed with his dad, Jack creepily saying he wouldn't hurt them
            Danny sucking his thumb with sweater torn, Wendy blames Jack
            Lots of bear imagery around Danny; end scene shows Wendy seeing a man in bear costume (with flap open at back) fellating an older dude

        • 7 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think you might be imagining things or outright projecting. I rewatched it earlier this year and there was nothing even remotely implying he sexually abused him.

  12. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm convinced that anyone who claims to prefer the novel over Kubrick's film is borderline illiterate. Anyone who says he prefers the miniseries over either is just outright trolling.

  13. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    The book and the series is flawed, they both depict Wendy as this strong woman, is she was strong she would have left JAck long ago.

    The israeliteKube took Stevie's novel and fixed it. Through away all the fluff and just kept the original idea.

  14. 7 months ago
    Anonymous

    Steve only has one good book

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