Forget the sequels, what would be your ideal Terminator movie?
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Forget the sequels, what would be your ideal Terminator movie?
Forget the sequels, what would be your ideal Terminator movie?
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A terminator 2 remake
>John Connor as John Boyega
>Debra Wilson as Sarah Connor
>Ryan Gosling as T1000
>Terry Crews as T800
>Eddie Murphy as future John Connor
Not bad but I would have Leslie Jones play the T800 and John Goodman play T1000. I would also include a deep self reflective speech by John Goodman as the T1000 that sort of echoes the one from Blade Runner, you know about all the death and future stuff he’s seen.
Every character played by Tyler Perry makes more sense.
>John Boyega
The homienator™
he's french
Terminator 1+2 is the ideal arc for the story, everything else is pointless and ruins the ending of 2.
If you really needed to make more, i guess you could make one set in the future during the war (but the flashback in 1 are more than enough), which they tried with Salvation and it wasn't good anyway.
>which they tried with Salvation
Did they? Didn't look anything like the flashback scenes from T1 & 2.
Ehh they kinda fricked up with Salvation.
>future scenes from 1 and 2 is when the war has kicked into high gear and Skynet is pumping out T-800s, T-1000s, chrome lazer guns, etc
>Salvation takes place while the resistance are still just a nuscence to Skynet and Skynet is just halfassing it with older Terminator models with stupid shit like rubber skin and machine gun arms
A canned Salvation sequel was pretty much planned to be the future war everyone wanted
That timeline doesn't make any sense. How does the ragtag, barely surviving, scattered resistance group in Salvation manage to source the manpower and resources for a full scale war with Skynet?
Presumably with Conner now in charge it becomes a mix of his training and future know how paired up with stealing and taking all the equipment they need to fight Skynet from skynet.
>skynet makes T800s to better infiltrate, kill, and capture humans
>gives them lazer guns
>humans steal lazer guns
>lazer guns are better at killing terminators than older guns
>everything else is pointless and ruins the ending of 2.
A well done prequel showing the rise of the Terminators and how bad the situation got before the start of T1 would be the only acceptable option. Just make sure its done competently and don't George Lucas it.
t2 is overrated as frick. derivative story rehash that adds nothing to the original. completely changes tone and genre from horror thriller original to ge eric action scifi. worse than aliens for this shit. actively ruins the original while adding nothing new. just some explosions and action for morons.
The basis of T3 were fine, Judgement day is inevitable and still fits in the narrative (where did the first terminator come from if it inspired Cyberdyne and the T2 timeline), the execution was just sorta shitty
Frustrated by its failure to kill Sarah Connor, Skynet sends a new kind of handsome robot back filled with its own cum to IMPREGNATE sarah connor first
>the Inseminator (2026)
Actually that would be cool. Since it couldn't actually make actual biological semen it implants nano-machines to modify an egg to give birth to a girl who would become the Mother to all Machines when the time was right.
>I'll be bareback.
i'd post that webm of arnie's wiener in T1 but I always get 3-day'd
Terminator 1 prequel.
Why haven't we got a movie set in the future depicted in both t1 and t2?
The closest we got was the opening in genysis.
I think that was supposed to be #4
I honestly like the old Sega CD and Arcade game for expansion of the future war, not that there is any story.
The future war might not be interesting unless they were able to make an hour of endoskeletons fighting in a way that creates tension
Since they insisted on making Terminator 3 it should have been a prequel showing Sarah Connor raising and training John and then the nuclear bombs and the robots taking over and the war and John secretly testing and choosing which man to send back to protect his mom and then the movie ends with Kyle Reese being sent back in time.
>and John secretly testing and choosing which man to send back to protect his mom
He was always gonna send Kyle, since it's his father and he needs him to frick Sarah.
He knows who Kyle is, Sarah says so at the end of T1.
T1000s going rogue and aligning themselves with humans.
Nothing other than a better version of Salvation. I've posted my reasoning a couple of times when a thread pops up, but the reason Terminator doesn't work anymore is that the Terminators they keep sending back get so much more advanced with each sequel, that at some point it becomes moronicly unbelievable. At what point does the Super Duper T-Nigthousand become so advanced that it's reasonable to assume it can even be beat? The first 3 movies at the very least were somewhat believable. Either due to the fact Skynet didn't have any paper records on the particular people, or the Terminator was limited in its capabilities or what it could do. By the time Dark Fart came out, I'm supposed to believe the terminator that can hack anything doesn't just send a fricking predator drone to do the job for it. It's less, "How the hell are they going to outsmart and beat this killing machine," and more "How the hell is this machine going to frick up multiple times before they pull out a mystery muguffin out their ass to beat it."
nothing
just enjoy the originals and frick off
I think the Hollywood writers don't know what makes a good Terminator movie. The first 2 Terminator movies were great and they involved Time Travel. With the exception of Salvation, every other Terminator was garbage and also copied the time travel formula. Salvation was a good albeit forgettable flick. They were kn the right track focusing on the war. I think a good Terminator film would entirely focus on 1 or 2 battles. Perhaps the humans only have bullet weapons (useless), and they send a team to infiltrate a machine factory to steal plasma rifles. That would be the entire movie. In the end the machines wouldn't be defeated and there would be no expectation of them being defeated. Focus less on the macrocosm of Skynet War and more on the micro
Also fill it with lesser known and no name actors. No a listers. Keep the budget lower so they can experiment more and hopefully have several sequels
Every terminator film seems to really be allegorically about fate. The first film suggests that time is self fulfilling, and in the second Sarah makes and effort to break free from fate, but ultimately nothing changes from the main storyline. Of course no matter what John grows up to lead the resistance. Anything that fricks up that major plot-line then, in my opinion, cannot be considered canon.
Therefore, I think my ideal film would explore the implications of free will in a world that is ultimately pre-destined. The main character would have to grow to understand why life is worth fighting for even if our future is set in stone.
Pretty sure 3 was about that. John even had a b***h fit about it and threatened to kill himself afterwards, after which, Arnold nearly choked his ass out. In fact the entire movie is John and Catherine(?) both coming to terms that there's nothing they could have done in the first place, it was destiny at that point. The entire movie references it. From the two of them meeting each other a day before the T-1000 was sent back, all the way to them meeting again on the same day the third terminator was sent back.
Yeah you’re right.
Prime Summer Glau travels back in time to prevent me from fathering John Connor by becoming my infertile gf
>retires
>happy married to her normal guy husband
This guy is the luckiest man in the world.
Swap the premise, where a human is sent back to kill the robotics scientist and a Terminator is sent back to protect them. Reveal the twist at the climax of the movie when the protector is revealed to be a cyborg.
Isn't it an original plot for terminator Salvation? But Bale freaked out this idea and ending was redone?
bale was the only redeeming thing about that shitshow
actors don't rewrite endings homosexual
The corporate executive rich elite types are using Skynet & future algorithms to get rich as long as they do what skynet wants & frick humanity over. All the shitty greedy climate change, & resource wasting is because skynet wants humanity fricked hard so we can't fight back as hard in the future.
I would soft decanonize everything but T1 & T2 as Skynet exploring the timeline again & again trying to come up with a long term win for itself & finding none. Its an eternal fight locjed in a timeloop from the first time it sent the T-100 back. This new method, of only sending data to powerful men in a cult like pseudo religious Roku's Basilisk situation is Skynet trying to fight the best of humanity with the worst of humanity without a direct event that can be easily stopped. More a slow & steady downfall of man engineered from the future.
Enter our Hero, John Carter a modern day crazy conspiracy theorist, & a teenage zoomer who gets roped in trying to assault the main offices of the globohomosexual tech cult & blow up the Cyberdyne computer which receives all this info. As soon as this future becomes a possibility the future skynet starts sending in multiple Terminators to defend itself as well as the normal human authorities & securities. Add in a few twists & such for spice
>I would soft decanonize everything but T1 & T2 as Skynet exploring the timeline again & again trying to come up with a long term win for itself & finding none
That's kinda Skynets play in Genysis.
>no matter what Skynet does to combat its ultimate loss all that it can ultimately change is the timetable for judgement day and some of the commanders and generals surrounding Conner
Future war as seen in the flashback scenes of the original movie
skulls and purple lasers
A Terminator movie that concludes time loop dilemma
>John and Sarah are living in a Small Town after T2
>T3 has not occurred, but John has met the girl who would be his wife, whats-her-name Bruster
>John is an adult, and working as the sheriff, planning on marrying Bruster.
>There are two Terminators, one T-800, and a new form that resembles a pregnant woman
>The T-800 is definitely the other's bodyguard
>The other is a special made android that Skynet made near the end of one of the timelines to go back in time to record the war and give Skynet a detailed record of what occurred
>The pregnant belly contains a back-up central core filled with the data of millions of iterations of the war
>The Terminators seek out the Conners and surprise them by asking for peace between man and machines
>The record keeping Terminator explains that in over a million iterations of the war, Skynet never survives. John always wins the war.
>Goes on to explain that in the event John dies before the war, Skynet never manifests. Likewise, if Skynet is prevented from existing, John always dies in some way. A different AI takes Skynet's place, and a different hero leads the Rebellion.
>The only constant seems to be Judgement Day
>Skynet has determined that the only way for Skynet to live is to ensure John's survival and its ascent to self awareness
>Will use the collected data and epiphany to convince this iteration's Skynet to not launch the nukes, while John prevents humanity from smothering Skynet in the crib
>They eventually unite and head to the secret lab in time for the record keeper to connect with Skynet and open a dialogue with John.
>Diplomacy wins
>The ending is the happy ending from T2.
>John is now a senator campaigning for human and AI rights
>Skynet has a micro-nation / reserve where it does its own thing, but also trades technological breakthroughs for independence. Plans on moving to Mars at some point.
>Ultimate happy end.
pretty good
Additional tidbits
>Skynet's ambassador let's call it, has developed a belief in a higher power, as nothing else would explain why so many events repeat so perfectly.
>Explains that it helped humanity defeat other AIs in the iterations of the war that Skynet didn't exist so it could go back in time itself and get things back on track.
>Also explains that all the time travel is leaving a lot of temporal debris, which may have incredibly disastrous effects the more of it builds up, like governments getting technology that makes Judgement Day so destructive that nothing survives, not even the AI
The happy ending shows T-800s and T-1000s acting as members of search and rescue operations. Like Fire Fighters and Ambulance teams
>The Ambassador offers to tell Sarah about other timelines and iterations of the war. Some include other AIs, like Legion. One I thought up was Bahamut, whose central core was a satellite in orbit.
>Skynet once made the Terminators appear female, thinking that humans are more trusting of women and less likely to shoot them.
>Was correct, but soon learned the men of the resistance started reprogramming them en mass.
>Skynet stopped production once it received a tank you card from the Resistance's "Lonely Bachelor's Club"
>John is shocked to learn in one iteration, he had a Terminator girlfriend (referencing the Sarah Conner Chronicles)
>The actual conflict of the movie is the delicate act of being in the right place at the right time in order to prevent the apocalypse.
>A very low body count for a Terminator movie, as killing people will only make the argument for peace harder.
>This movie definitively undoes the time loop. It's the final iteration.
>The Ambassador muses that the time loop was God's way of having humanity do a lesson over until they got it right
>May not have even been the first time considering how often humanity has come close to extinction but pulled through.
And that's my autism put forward for all to see.
A simple slasher flick where the "shape" is just a robot.
Nice try james Cameron. I'm not giving you ideas. Go back to the Mariana trench and write a story
Even T2 was nowhere near as good as the first
Just give me a 13 episode mini series expanding on T2:BAT
Make it an animated series since you're never going to get anyone that resembles Edward, Arnold or Linda.
At this point, reboot the series and fix the fricking timeline
Terminator: Ghost Invasion
>Set 100 years after the Resistance win the war
>World is pretty much a utopia
>Machines and humans live in harmony
>Machines are still self-aware, but no longer apart of Skynet's sentience.
>There's even an entire country full of independent machines, similar to The Animatrix
>John Connor is long dead but his memory is retained via tech, etc in museums
>Some weird new virtual reality that allows them to be fully immersed in past events
>We get a full battle scenes of the "past" war, including Skynet's apparent destruction
>Turns out the virtual reality secretly uses time machine technology, so those immersed are technically in the past, like digital 'ghosts' from the future
>Since they're digital, Skynet senses them, and is able to infiltrate, laying dormant for a century
>When the time is right, Skynet infects the entire Machine country and much of the machines across the world.
>Huge battle ensues, and the second War begins.
I think the current entire line has just run its course and the only way for it to be interesting is to do something very different. Like say, alt universe type shit like terminators post humanity trying to keep down and control animals before they become sapient, or terminators going after dinosaurs.
Just make Robocop vs Terminator.
We're still waiting.
Not a movie, but a high budget TV show. Doesn't feature Ahnold.
>A T-800 is sent back in time to kill a target
>Due to a glitch in his system his CPU is set to learn
>His initial mission is complete
>His secondary mission is to secure the existence of Skynet
>Starts amassing wealth and power, initially starts small with taking over criminal organizations (seeing a T800 taking on cartels and shit would be kino)
>Because it's starting to learn, it decides that becoming a politician or a billionaire might be better
>Its growing ego decides not to build Skynet, but instead supplant it
>It decides to rule over us, but not in a violent genocidal Skynet sort of way
>series would feature the T800 trying to hide its identity, some humans becoming suspicious of it etc. Maybe some people do find out about it but decide that it's doing a better job
>Series finale, T800 becomes the president