>tfw once ate an entire strip to see what would happen >got tangled up in my headphone wire in my bed within the first 20 minutes and couldn't figure out how to escape >spend 8 hours stuck in place trapped in my own head
That was 11 years ago and I don't think I really came back the same from it. It's an eternity in there, it's forever. Have you ever really genuinely grasped what 'eternity' means? We're not meant to comprehend it, and I certainly didn't.
>everyone gangster until they spend several lifetimes going over every mistake they've ever made and every seemingly inconsequential thing they've ever said
KEK baby's first karma check? >tfw if I trip it's always great because I don't have any meaningfully bad karma
lmao it's that easy
>dude, i needed to overdose on a psychedelic to realize i'm a loser
3 months ago
Anonymous
So you know you're a loser without even trying? Heh, great!
3 months ago
Anonymous
you have no negative karma because you have achieved nothing. it's better to have developed a sense of evil than to stick around net-0. nice that you had a fun trip but you'll need to live yet another life while i get to chill in nirvana.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I achieved a fat shit this morning does that count?
3 months ago
Anonymous
Mfers don't understand that Salubri Ante is the way forward, not full Baal or full Salubri homosexualry. Moral dunning Kruger effect is wild, can't understand good unless you've experienced evil
3 months ago
Anonymous
So you know you're a loser without even trying? Heh, great!
he's done you and he's not even in this realm!
3 months ago
Anonymous
I mean REALLY, who materializes in the upper realms without some basic meditation and tea first. >didn't even bring choccy biscuits to the 17th astral realm
mine are really cool sometimes - very visual. i also hallucinate music in hypnagogia (as in original compositions ranging from rap to hindicop to country, neo-classic, baroque, etc)
It is a very normal thing. Ever get that thing when you're drifting off to sleep and you either feel like you're suddenly getting propelled forward at a great speed/dropping off a great height or your hear a very loud bang/explosion and jolt up wide awake? Exploding head syndrome.
It is a very normal thing. Ever get that thing when you're drifting off to sleep and you either feel like you're suddenly getting propelled forward at a great speed/dropping off a great height or your hear a very loud bang/explosion and jolt up wide awake? Exploding head syndrome.
everyone gangster until they spend several lifetimes going over every mistake they've ever made and every seemingly inconsequential thing they've ever said
I didn't speak anything beyond basic answers to questions for months. Didn't share my thoughts or feelings for the better part of 2 years. It didn't matter, none o' this mattered. I think this is the most I've ever really talked about it beyond trying to get my wife to understand what long periods of time are like.
Since I am a reasonable BananaGod I will explain to your mortal brain what happened.
That crystal you took temporarily aligned you to another temporal dimension.
Not your puny mortal body but your electrical/magnetic consciousness field that you call "you" or whatever, it's aligned to certain frequencies. If you change that your puny mortal brain experiences far too much time than is possible for your brain or body to handle.
Thus the experience is both incomprehensible and impossible to share.
Ah, mortals.
I had this on a spice trip of all things, I passed out and felt as if I were falling, through darkness, then one by one it was like the synapses of my brain lit up and I could at once see things as I remembered them and pieces myself back together, there was a lot of re-living of my life after that. I cannot remember the six months after.
this is the problem of taking too much. You hear so many people extol psychedelics online, but there are also so many people that become "burnt out" from taking too much. The ideal psychedelic trip is where you can sort of detach from yourself temporarily to look at yourself from a more objective perspective, but then reattach to yourself and go back to being "you". Too many people stay detached and don't know how to come back to the ground.
I looked, I looked deep, and I did come back to 'me' (whatever me is). The problem is that by looling too deeply, once you return to yourself it feels like you're wearing someone else's clothes, it doesn't quite fit right.
I understand what you're saying about the ideal psych trip but honestly that jumbo trip was what I needed in the long term, it really blew the cobwebs out the rafters, so to speak. Helped me become a better version of me. There's still a long way to go though, the struggle is eternal. We are both Sisyphus and the boulder.
3 months ago
Anonymous
There are ways to achieve what you have without going into a fugue state for 2 years, i.e. avoiding exactly the problem you said was a problem. Just be yourself ;)!
3 months ago
Anonymous
>The problem is that by looking too deeply, once you return to yourself it feels like you're wearing someone else's clothes, it doesn't quite fit right.
You saw a part of the truth but didn't complete the journey.
Now you know there are holes in the narrative so it will never be real again.
You truly experienced that it's all a game instead of that just being some thought or feeling. society just a game, man
nah you really figured it out a bit.
you gotta figure it out completely then come back again to feel full again
lotta people go crazy when figuring it out completely and don't come back so be careful
but what do I know
3 months ago
Anonymous
>once you return to yourself it feels like you're wearing someone else's clothes, it doesn't quite fit right.
That feeling is exactly what motivated me to start changing shit in my fucked up life
after I had my shroom trip I felt similar. when my ego rebuilt itself that faded away and I went back to normal. even saying this makes me feel like I'm contradicting what I know deep down and I'm just flinging shit at a wall. there is literally no point. The more I study buddhism and that sort of thing the more I realize that I basically figured everything out after my shroom trip and that's why it was total hell
The ego is destined for nothing but death and when you fully realize the emptiness of life but still have the desires of said ego, you're in hell, cause you're your ego. think that's why the buddha said the pull the ego up by its stem so it's overcome permanently and suffering is overcome permanently
>think that's why the buddha said the pull the ego up by its stem so it's overcome permanently and suffering is overcome permanently
What right have I to annihilate the poor simple person I perceive as me?
I can learn to copy with a lifetime of suffering if it means the vessel I inhabit experiences a lifetime. We're here on repeat, if we are truly detached and not suffering then surely the right thing to do is to sit back and enjoy the ride.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>What right have I to annihilate the poor simple person I perceive as me?
You're implying there are more than one you
By every right you were born with, you can figure out the truth.
Figuring out the truth and setting yourself free is your literal birthright
3 months ago
Anonymous
>What right have I to annihilate the poor simple person I perceive as me?
You're implying there are more than one you
By every right you were born with, you can figure out the truth.
Figuring out the truth and setting yourself free is your literal birthright
It's difficult to talk about the self, or lack of, using language. constant confusion and contradiction happen
if you believe there is a you to annihilate anything then I implore you to try and find it to see if it even exists.
you may be busy for awhile
Your brain releases DMT when you sleep. If you wake up in a release cycle you get some of the after-effects.
BTW, if it happens a lot, it might be a sign of sleep apnea or some other sleep disorder. The actual hallucination itself isn't anything to worry about.
I get this a lot and my theory is that it is how dreams are fed to our brains. Like, there's some elaborate image generation algorithm in our brain that constructs images from complex geometric patterns.
It's the other way.
Reality is fundamentally crazy complex multi-dimensional fractal geometries and our brains filter all that crap out, so that we experience a particular "channel" of reality", like a channel of radio or TV, it's based on a certain frequency.
Modulate the frequency of experience and you pull in other data. The human mind tunes itself to realities.
Your consciousness is made of electrical and magnetic impulses, magnetic from your heart:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetocardiography
And electric from the brain:
https://www.bu.edu/articles/2019/how-electrical-activity-travels-through-the-brain/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/brain-electric-field/
^ it's the synchronization of the field which leads to this effect here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-organized_criticality
yeah i also subscribe to this theory.
My reasoning for why dreams are so crazy and can feel like they last so long is because your brain isn't being bottlenecked by your physical senses
That animation is very close to what i see, except there are layers of patterns that move at different speeds and angles? Often hundreds of thousands of layers stacked on top of each other
3 months ago
Anonymous
i can force this effect with my eyes closed at any time
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphene
I swear you dumb phospheneposters show up to claim that crap all the time. You're not special and it's not even an unusual hallucination.
yeah i also subscribe to this theory.
My reasoning for why dreams are so crazy and can feel like they last so long is because your brain isn't being bottlenecked by your physical senses
>My reasoning for why dreams are so crazy and can feel like they last so long is because your brain isn't being bottlenecked by your physical senses
Really depends on the individual there anon
3 months ago
Anonymous
If it's not unusual then why when i described it to my neurologist, she had never heard of it?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>If it's not unusual then why when i described it to my neurologist, she had never heard of it?
Because she's a midwit lmao. Ask her a question in latin and see if she can respond.
everyone gangster until they see the walls doing this
But nothing like
Not great advice. It depends on how crazy he is and how pre-disposed to breaks with reality he is as well.
If he's schizo like "I think weird shit", good to go. If he's schizo like: "I have to close a portal to hell by stabbing garbage cans", don't.
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dumbass phosphene posters
3 months ago
Anonymous
thanks for the update
pressing on your eyes a little bit really is just like psychedelics. just save money and touch your eyelids.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I used to do this as a kid a lot because I went to Jesus school and the church service things we had to go to were very boring. Should have known I'd take to tripping.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Is it phosphene if my arms also feel like they're phasing through the patterns and my surroundings feel like they're at a low frame rate?
3 months ago
Anonymous
>pressing on your eyes a little bit really is just like psychedelics. just save money and touch your eyelids.
True, I squeeze my eyes and get trippy visuals.
I was on mushrooms and my wall was doing this. I invited a girl to check it out, she was an innocent cutie who lost her virginity months before when she moved in. She had no fucking clue what I was talking about and tried to kiss me but I was so looped that sex wasn’t even a thing to me. Never did end up having sex with her but I have to admit I felt cringy thinking about how I’d invited her to watch my wall melt kek
Bros I miss the early 2000s. If I did that now it would be on YT and I’d probably be accused of sexual assault.
how old are you? if you're past 24 you should be okay to take a tab. Just start low and slow, and if you're really worried, keep a piece of paper or some kind of reminder that what you're going through will end. Also keep in mind that if you're freaking out about it that will tend to be self-fulfilling to create a bad experience. If you start with a low dosage and you start to become uncomfortable, you can at least think to yourself "at least I know I objectively took a low dose and that it will not get worse than this".
You should also consider mushrooms too btw.
Your fear of death might also evolve to something from "I don't fear death" to "I fear dying". Death itself is inevitable, but ideally one wants to die well. Me dying would suck, but be tolerable, from a third person view of myself. I just don't want a protracted experience of suffering like for months on end.
If all goes well though, the experience should also help you appreciate the need for trying to strive for authentic human connection with others to come out of your schizoidy shell some. If you start with a low dose though, the first experience might not be revelatory for you, and that's okay. Just chill at your house and enjoy music or whatever. That way the next time you can take a higher dose since you know how the drug will work and you'll have less anxiety about what it might do, THEN you can really attempt to go in for introspection and to contemplate your life
Not great advice. It depends on how crazy he is and how pre-disposed to breaks with reality he is as well.
If he's schizo like "I think weird shit", good to go. If he's schizo like: "I have to close a portal to hell by stabbing garbage cans", don't.
i can force this effect with my eyes closed at any time
That animation is very close to what i see, except there are layers of patterns that move at different speeds and angles? Often hundreds of thousands of layers stacked on top of each other
You were calling my advice bad and just seemed to be doing so from a place of not understanding the terms
Anon knows his mind best and if he's saying schizoid then I believe him. Schizoids are common enough personality types in society and then have a spectrum from functional to not, people just don't understand how they appear interpersonally as compared to what you'd read on their Wikipedia page.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>You were calling my advice bad
Reading comprehension: F-
"not great advice" nowhere does it say "bad". Learn to read lmao.
3 months ago
Anonymous
you're still being rather aggressive for a person who has taken psychedelics
3 months ago
Anonymous
>you're still being rather aggressive for a person who has taken psychedelics
It's just a tool to me and nothing more.
Doesn't affect my personality, I'm not a cuckboy. >WOAHHHHHH I COULD HAVE BEEN LIKE... SOME OTHER KIND OF PERSON >I SHOULD DO THIS AND THAT AND
Nah fuck that lmao. I use that sh*t for power.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Based non-spiritual hallucinogen user
Ancestral spirit cucks malding
I'm past 24. My fear of death is primarily the fear of leaving this world, fear of losing others around me, and lastly fear of the physical pain I'll be enduring in the process. >the experience should also help you appreciate the need for trying to strive for authentic human connection with others to come out of your schizoidy shell some
Not great advice. It depends on how crazy he is and how pre-disposed to breaks with reality he is as well.
If he's schizo like "I think weird shit", good to go. If he's schizo like: "I have to close a portal to hell by stabbing garbage cans", don't.
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dumbass phosphene posters
I was never diagnosed but I fit the traits of autism and schizoid to a T. The things is I have striven for human connection but it's hard because I have a hard time conversing with most. But I appreciate those who do.
The tough part if I do decide to take a dose would be finding people who sell it.
Consumerism won't solve anything for you. You have to do it yourself, and LSD might be willing to help you.
how old are you? if you're past 24 you should be okay to take a tab. Just start low and slow, and if you're really worried, keep a piece of paper or some kind of reminder that what you're going through will end. Also keep in mind that if you're freaking out about it that will tend to be self-fulfilling to create a bad experience. If you start with a low dosage and you start to become uncomfortable, you can at least think to yourself "at least I know I objectively took a low dose and that it will not get worse than this".
You should also consider mushrooms too btw.
Your fear of death might also evolve to something from "I don't fear death" to "I fear dying". Death itself is inevitable, but ideally one wants to die well. Me dying would suck, but be tolerable, from a third person view of myself. I just don't want a protracted experience of suffering like for months on end.
If all goes well though, the experience should also help you appreciate the need for trying to strive for authentic human connection with others to come out of your schizoidy shell some. If you start with a low dose though, the first experience might not be revelatory for you, and that's okay. Just chill at your house and enjoy music or whatever. That way the next time you can take a higher dose since you know how the drug will work and you'll have less anxiety about what it might do, THEN you can really attempt to go in for introspection and to contemplate your life
>How old are you?
How to spot moronic advice fast.
Don’t do any drugs. Seriously, they are not the Evangelion every junkie makes them out to be. Every single realisation you can have on drugs you can have without drugs, and at no risk of developing a lifelong psychosis. You don’t need drugs. You need friends. Talk to your friends. That’s better than drugs.
You need to not be a homosexual but it's already too late
Love is an illusion on par with time, it doesn't exist naggerhomosexual. The fact some basic bitch happy chemical flush can make you think you truly understand what is just the biological impetus to protect what you pork is hilarious and confirms you as a genelet. Please reproduce as we require worker drones to keep the factories running.
Not him but who cares if love doesn't exist? Nothing exists. Love is still something you can experience though. And it's the best experience possible to strive for in the human forms we are temporarily in.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I have love, I'm in a relationship of 7 years. Objectively it's useful but it's still shit, there's no real difference between the highs and lows of bachelor life into depressing greybeard or husbando life into depressing grandfather. The perspective in each setting is what matters and your perspective sounds like one that requires external validation, you absolute bitch boy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>Objectively it's useful but it's still shit, there's no real difference between the highs and lows of bachelor life into depressing greybeard or husbando life into depressing grandfather.
It sounds like you settled in life anon. Hopefully you're in a relationship with the right kind of woman. If you both are willing to undergo mutual journeys of self-improvement, you will really be able to achieve some amazing emotional highs in live and a feeling of love you never thought possible.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Sounds like you love to project. I will never settle unless I get to Ultron all movement and life in the universe so I can have some fucking peace and quiet. But unfortunately that's not a possibility so I have to contend with being annoyed at all you chimps for your horrifically retarded takes and this exact type of "it will get better" pseudo spirituality.
3 months ago
Anonymous
This is why you need to learn how to love.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You need to learn how to hate. Love comes naturally. I would loathe to be in a fight with you, turn around and see you trying to hug the guy who has a shiv. men today need test correction.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Not him but you're just projecting on what he means. Trying to strive for experiencing true love does not mean you'll be some pushover that tries to make peace with the guy who is stabbing you. The whole of human experience includes violence and aggression. For example, I understand that I am inescapably human, but also inescapably male. That necessitates that I appreciate what it means to have to deal with male aggression properly. My approach to violence is that I will NEVER instigate or bait it, but the second someone starts it against me, I will be absolutely ruthless and dirty in putting that person down.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I disagree, there is a massive difference. I have kids and a fulfilling career and loving wife and yes life isn’t perfect, it’s not supposed to be, but it is immensely rewarding and you get what you give. I don’t usually compare myself with others, but if I consider now my DINK or single peers who fill the void with consumerism, travel and vicarious living through IG there is no comparison between our lives in terms of fulfilment.
You’re wrong in saying any path you choose is ultimately the same and I think you’ve simply settled as
>Objectively it's useful but it's still shit, there's no real difference between the highs and lows of bachelor life into depressing greybeard or husbando life into depressing grandfather.
It sounds like you settled in life anon. Hopefully you're in a relationship with the right kind of woman. If you both are willing to undergo mutual journeys of self-improvement, you will really be able to achieve some amazing emotional highs in live and a feeling of love you never thought possible.
stated and are trying to rationalize staying in your rut via sour grapes and fatalism.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Look at this guy, he got hoodwinked by the gene code. Absolute pleb take, I had semen demons and they made me happy so they're the ultimate form of existence. All you've done is add to the pile of things that can destroy you when they're taken away. You just put chinks in your own armour, you fool.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Like I said, a defense mechanism involving fatalism.
Every single one of your emotions and motivations comes from your genes yet you think sneering at the ultimate biological imperative and also the social instincts inherent to your species is somehow liberating, unique and a solution. It’s not, it’s simply rationalizing failures and poor thinking/behavior in a way that makes you feel on top, superior and a wolf among sheep. It’s kid thinking and you lack the self-awareness to see the hypocrisy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Those motivations only come from genes if there is no soul, which means the experience is all we get and so it's meaning is subjective, ie nothing once everything is said and done and you cease to be. If there is a soul, then it means the biological chain is likely some kind of suffering porn for higher entities or a test to ensure civility when you enter the higher planes of existence. Either way, it's a rort and a shit dance that I refuse to participate in just because morally superior fuckwits like yourself espouse it as the best way to live. I don't want hookers and blow, I don't want a nice family life. What I want is all of you, gone. Because it would bring me joy to see this world cleaned of your type of self gratifying thought. You really think you're the only nagger to wife a bitch and it "all feels right now?" Yeah that's your dick giving you a thumbs up for continuing the DNA chain, nothing more. You just fell for the drugs that exist preprogrammed in the body.
3 months ago
Anonymous
>all of reality is materialism >so instincts and other biological mechanisms are false and not to be trusted
Kek okay. I think you need to work a little more on your philosophy.
3 months ago
Anonymous
There's a good chance I'm just insane and have self rationalized into a corner. Even in that scenario I don't care because the rest of you are just so fuckin gay and boring that I would prefer to be delusional than spend 1 minute listening to you talk about whatever gay shit little Timmy got up to at school today
>You need friends. Talk to your friends. That’s better than drugs.
Most of them left this half podunk town. The one that lingered gave bad vibes. Besides them, it's hard for me to make them. I socialize well with special needs people because I'm on the same level socially as them. But as much as I am socially disabled, my intellectual capacity isn't that low to have anything much in common. So it's hard for me to make friends.
I've been considering Tinder for friends and maybe something else. But that's if I get matches, which is already difficult.
Tinder is fucking gay, it's a hookup app for each end of the attractiveness bellcurve so you're either constantly fending off troons and hambeasts or constantly power dynamic struggling with Stacey's that have 5 other dudes booked for the same date night.
Psychedelics will give you a lot of things. They'll give you back the spice of life then take it away if you abuse them. They'll give you new facets of personality and then quash them just as quickly. They'll make you fall in love with life and also show you there's zero point to doing anything, including giving up.
Stop relying on external forces to make your internal order ordered. The universe is a gay soup, only through will can you not feel as internally gay as it is externally
Getting matches on Tinder can be difficult if you haven't keyed your psychology properly to match those who are with serious intention trying to form a connection on the app. Most people on the app aren't serious about trying to form healthy authentic connections with others. You can get jacked and make your profile real prime f boy status and attract that kind of women on Tinder and get plenty of matches that way, but it won't be quality matches for what you really want in the long-run. There is an art to authenticity and it takes some self-awareness (and patience especially) to pull it off on an online matchmaking service
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A low dose of psychedelics can help give you the nudge you need. The other anon is right in that one doesn't *need* psychedelics, but it definitely can help. At the end of the day, the real factor in whether a person makes it is if they have the willpower do just do the stuff you have to do every day, every week, to try to make progress. Psychedelics won't magically fix your life, they just give you a push that you have to actively choose to take advantage of. You're still going to have to put the work in. I come from a schizoid perspective myself and got autism ruled out. Psychedelics can help in that they'll help you become aware of how you're the common denominator in the issues facing your life. Like I'm regarded as a really nice guy by most people, yet when I was younger I was never really close to anyone. It caused me a lot of confusion and anguish to try to understand how both things could be true simultaneously - shouldn't good people have friends? I had to become self-aware about the fact that my politeness was something I used as a shield, even if unintentionally, to keep myself from becoming close to others. And it's tragic because I just had to break up with my first girlfriend who suffered from the same issue who was just not willing to go on the same self-improvement journey I was to put in the work
this guy gets it. any 'realisation' I have had on drugs I already was well aware of sober. it juwst felt more significant when the though came to me on drugs.
Friends are gay, drugs don't ask for money or help with their retarded problems. You need less friends and better drugs.
Well they don't. The dealer does but bro up enough and you get freebies. I once got a p for free just because he was going on holiday and it needed to move.
this guy gets it. any 'realisation' I have had on drugs I already was well aware of sober. it juwst felt more significant when the though came to me on drugs.
[...] >drugs dont ask for money
fucking kek.
I have schizophrenia and had it long before I ever did a tab.
Would I recommend it? No.
That said once the weird loops stopped I could enjoy watching BBC's Planet Earth.
I had some good times tripping but it was with weird research chems. AL-LAD was my favorite until I decided I needed to stop frying my brain further.
The best advice you'll hear from me, is if you have any fear or anxiety, your gonna have a bad trip. Go into it with a positive mindset and it'll be fun. With that said, sometimes a bad trip is a good trip too.
I chased my friend through a cornfield on a full moon blasting satanic music while we were both deep in some mushrooms. My other friends thought i was fucked up, and my friend was shooken up, but the next day he said it was fun, as if he was in a horror movie
Facts, also the high is a bit too "sharp" for my taste. Shrooms are a bit unpredictable but feel a lot nicer. Best trip I ever had was doing a hike on shrooms in the Oaxaca highlands. Never felt so much in tune with myself, the group I was with and the world in general.
I get the opposite, shrooms is too dull and the high does its own thing, and I could never trust nature while tripping
Taking too much acid and sword fucking NPCs in blade and sorcery though, I'm there
I remember my house turning into a massive green field and seeing a bunny chasing coins. I was running around the house absolutely terrified. I was probably 12
that sounds like prodromal schizophrenia but if you've had it since you were 7 and you haven't gone full schiz then I guess you're good to go as long as it doesn't fuck with your quality of life.
For me it's the translucent pink spiders climbing up my walls every now and then upon waking along with the 3 knocks on my bedroom door when there's noboody there.
psychedelics are just a bad time honestly
(acid was fun but I could tell it could go bad at any time, also my dumb fuck friend put hell raiser on while I was still tripping)
I quit all drugs
I don't even drink coffee anymore
I had never dropped acid before and one time took 500u on a whim one time, thinking I'd just watch some movies or something, but at some point I got caught in my bedroom in the dark. I couldn't visually hallucinate at al in the dark, so all the stimulation went into my brain, and I just sat there for hours expelling my thoughts aloud. I really think I almost broke and went permanently schizophrenic.
At some point I realized I was just forgetting everything I was saying, so I decided I needed to record it. I made about 80 2-3 minute recordings on my phone of my trip. That was a few years ago and for some reason I've still never been able to bring myself to listen to them.
Listening to your own recorded acid babble while sober is a great way to keep perspective about these drugs. Most epiphanies you have will end up being total gibberish
It's shit. Silicon Valley techbros are just nepo nerds that live to close to artfags so they end up doing the dregs of their drugs. Take a 10 strip and break reality, it's already fucked
last time I microdosed with friends, I basically turned into The Bear(tm) and sauteed a massive pile of peppers and onions to eat on steak sandwiches. It was so fucking delicious.
I've got a metal tin at the back of my cupboard with baggies of dried shrooms and tabs that I haven't touched in almost a decade. Will they still have any effect now?
>My friend drinks enough robotussin to get to the third plateau by himself in his apartment >Tries to enter his kitchen through a doorway but everytime he enters the kitchen he walks into the living room he just left >is trapped in his infinite living room for the next 8 hours or so.
I personally eny you hippie brainlets finding all these deep messages and meanings in the colorful pictures your brain generates when you add some funny molecules to the system. I could never shake being firmly rooted in my intellect and explaining the experience purely from that perspective.
It's not just colorful pictures they can generate, religious/mystical experiences as well for example. You can also have those sober and they're a very powerful phenomenon your brain is somehow capable of.
Also known as drinking the imaginary Kool aid. anyone who tries to tell me they found God while tripping and doesn't immediate start discussing the Monster Group is dismissed as a retard and a smelly hippy.
There's certainly an imaginary and dangerous aspect to it but it can have profoundly real effects on people, it doesn't have to be delusional, it can change their perspective and personality for the better. It's especially interesting when used with people that are chronically depressed or terminally ill, they might be helped to let go of their fear of death or faulty reasoning and get a new outlook on life through an experience like that.
You can be intellectual and take psychedelics and have them reinforce and strengthen that perspective. It's just that it's mostly only low dreg NEETs taking psychedelics and going around sharing their anecdotes as a burnt out husk. Successful people who take psychedelics rarely spend their time online anonymously talking about their experiences. Psychedelics let me become so intellectual that I also grasped the deep need to try to form an intimate relationship. My intellectualism lets me fully confront the fact I am inescapably a human animal with emotional needs and not magically above that no matter how much I pretend or wish I wasn't. I did not need to give up the intellectual part of myself to achieve that.
If you're mocking other people healing it sounds like you still have some healing of your own to do. I genuinely hope everyone makes it. Not everyone does, and I'm at peace with that, but I do hope that everyone makes it. It's something only that person can do for themselves though. People have to save themselves.
People are just atoms that learned to sound off in unison, there is inherently no meaning to "making it" or "getting better" and if we didn't have poorcucks, crack heads or women to compare ourselves to we wouldn't know when life is good. Cease your meaningless self masturbatory kumbaya proselytizing and realize nature and therefore the universe does not care for your bullshit and would start eating you from the asshole first if it could.
>and realize nature and therefore the universe does not care for your bullshit and would start eating you from the asshole first if it could.
I realize this and I do not care. Yes, I am just atoms and nothing more. But I am atoms assembled for now into the pattern of a human, and a human experience is what I must live until my atoms are recycled into something else. For the time I am a human, I want to strive towards the best possible experience of being a human, and that's creating true love with another person. And true love requires true vulnerability which I have to be prepared to risk.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Pathetic
3 months ago
Anonymous
I hope you make it
3 months ago
Anonymous
He won’t. People are their worst enemies and those who respond by digging into deeper ruts and reinforcing their defence mechanism-only to wonder at night why things aren’t better-rarely improve. They tell themselves it’s a cold hateful universe while simultaneously waiting for fortune to fall into their laps and bemoaning those who they see as “lucky”.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Talk to me if you're going to talk shit anon. I have a meticulously crafted public face that only gets better as retards like yourself show me the hoops you jump through to pretend you're happy, but internally it's always the same rage at the same monkey ass choices and same pathetic self actualizations you all have. None of you are special, all of you are pathetic begging each other for validation while wondering to yourself why the good feeling wears off. That's because it's a trick, an illusion, a sleight of mind. Embrace hating everything, it's way more neutral if you're not an anger homosexual about it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Cringe
3 months ago
Anonymous
You're choosing to be a villain instead of a hero. You're the kind of villain that bemoans the heroes as being false or artificial, instead of doing the hard road of actually being a worthy hero. You're taking the easy way out. I hope you make it anon.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Bruh there are no heroes or villains. Just people being witnessed from certain perspectives on certain days. To Diogenes Alexander was just some bumfuck in his way.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ah sorry I thought you would understand that analogy. But you can embrace loving everything instead. Hate is just the opposite side of the coin. You can flip it. Loving everything doesn't make you weak.
For example, if some gangbanger attacks me, I will absolutely defend myself. I recognize his agency in that he has made a choice to attack me, and I have every right to defend myself and to put him down by whatever means necessary in order to protect the love I have in my life. True love does not make you weak - certain forms of love as preached by limp-wristed media certainly can make you weak, but that's not the love I'm talking about. Hate means you only have yourself to fight for. Love gives you so much more to fight for. Properly harnessed it can make you stronger than hate can.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I too have seen the Jekyll and Hyde miniseries by BBC and I reject your claim. Love doesn't build empires, or fathom scientific breakthroughs. It doesn't exist beyond individual perspectives and even then people can't agree on its immaterial status beyond trackable chemical releases. Love is a joke and you're the punchline.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I haven't seen that show.
Who cares about building an empire or scientific breakthroughs? That's how you want to spend your life? No empire will last. It will turn to dust. Creating an empire will be impressive to others, but what do I care about impressing strangers? Creating an empire means spending your life in a rat race constantly managing one thing after another with constant stress and demands on your time 24/7 from people who aren't your loved ones.
Who cares if love doesn't "objectively" exist? It's something you can EXPERIENCE. What do you want to experience in this life anon? If you genuinely want to experience building an empire or something then go for it, but it's not for me.
3 months ago
Anonymous
I want to experience peace.
3 months ago
Anonymous
That is something you can achieve if you truly strive for it. External peace will require internal peace. Godspeed.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Forgive me friend, but X to doubt. My requirements for peace are billions must die. I cannot know internal peace until the external shitfuckery levels decrease.
3 months ago
Anonymous
How do those billions of people affect you from achieving peace? What direct impact do they have on you? The whole of Nigeria could disappear and I doubt my life would meaningfully change in the slightest. That's not to say the state of the world doesn't matter, but overall it tends to be a small factor in your personal life and not one you're meaningfully in control of. True peace requires understanding what's under your ability to influence and what isn't. I can't do anything about Nigeria but I can do something about the company I choose to keep, I can choose to take care of myself and I can choose to try to make good long-term decisions for myself.
3 months ago
Anonymous
The company I keep, the self care decisions and long term planning for myself still don't fix the millions if not billions of soulless drones currently consuming all the limited resources and space on the planet, expecting an upper echelon luxury existence when the entire system is currently unsustainable and strapped to Mr Bones Wild Ride. It affects me because it's a looming danger comprised of apathy from the drones and acceptance from individuals like yourself who have the passion and vision to be saviours but instead decide to be martyrs. Allowing the lowest patterns of the universe to place your pattern at risk of an ass fucking is not sage, it's just successful programming from the higher ups. You rejected bootlicking, but you accepted moralfagging. You got got. The highest quality, most nepo funded self care does not fix the inherent issues of human existence, which are lust, greed and aging, themselves linked to requirements to procreate, consume to survive and entropy. We have shitty biological imperatives because of shitty universal laws that everyone accepts because they're either too stupid to try and outsmart those laws, or too weak to bother trying. So I want peace, but I know it's a dream. So I'll settle for comfy hating everything like the rest of this Tibetan basket weaving board.
3 months ago
Anonymous
You can settle for comfy loving instead. You're putting too much of a burden on yourself. You and I are not able to fix the world. But we're able to fix our worlds to the best we can. That's what I meant by being a hero instead of a villain, it's not just about what you do for others, but also what you do for yourself. Hate does not make the world better - and it does not make your world better either. Existence isn't ideal. Of course I won't always be happy and comfy. Some pretty horrible experiences are ahead for me in life. But so are some fantastic experiences. Nothing matters and that is why I choose to try to influence existence for the better rather the worse. And there's nothing you can do to take that will of mine away from me.
Our meeting of wills must conclude here. I must go on to do other things for the day. I hope you make it in existence in the way that matters.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Ok I'm gonna schizo post but that RIGHT THERE IS THE PROBLEM
Yes, you are responsible. We all are. This kicking the can down the road of figuring out the actual rules of existence is bullshit. People think just because we haven't nailed a soul to a table yet it's some kind of excuse to chalk all emotional information up to internally directed impetus. It's not, you're fuckin like everyone else for rolling over and accepting your eventual death, and this is what disgusts me about the race. I seriously hope we aren't the only survivors of the Great Filter because if so that's fuckin depressing. People are plenty nice to themselves all the time, you don't see anyone flagellating or fasting anymore and they used to do that when shit was definably worse.
Anyway, you said you're off. Enjoy your time anon.
3 months ago
Anonymous
Peace comes from within. Your perception of reality is a reflection of your state of mind. Here's a simple exercise to experience peace: Imagine it.
3 months ago
Anonymous
All I see is red and black and screaming, so that doesn't work.
If you're mocking other people healing it sounds like you still have some healing of your own to do. I genuinely hope everyone makes it. Not everyone does, and I'm at peace with that, but I do hope that everyone makes it. It's something only that person can do for themselves though. People have to save themselves.
The problem is people start seeing psychedelics as a regular medication/diversion instead of a tool to use and then move away from.
I’m always reminded of a Joseph Campbell’s quote:
>The psychotic drowns in the same waters in which the mystic swims with delight.
But I think the psychotic also applies to drug/psychedelic user.
>In order to cope with not feeling loved, we adopt a belief that makes everything less powerless and painful. The belief we adopt is “love doesn’t really exist"
acid is lame. it goes on for too long and after a few hours you start wishing it would just end so you can go to sleep. i've been told mushrooms are much better.
If you don’t have a Saturday or Sunday once or twice month where you have no real responsibilities where you can just kill the whole day loafing around you need to reevaluate your whole life
Also, you can function reasonably well on acid off peak
its almost certainly happened to someone before given the rewatchability of peep show, that specific episode being good and that screencap being popular
The first (and last) time I did acid was during a night of doing a lot of e. I deserved everything that happened to me. It kicked in during the comedown from the e, so everything turned into a nightmare.
I laid shivering in my bed for like 10 hours trying to not look at the ceiling lamp because it looked like a giant spider. Such an embarrassing thing.
yeah don’t do what this guy did
if you’re doing acid for the first time, plan it on as boring a day as possible
low dose, comfy in your room, no other drugs distractions or responsibilities
>only 4
NGMI to the universe selector
>tfw once ate an entire strip to see what would happen
>got tangled up in my headphone wire in my bed within the first 20 minutes and couldn't figure out how to escape
>spend 8 hours stuck in place trapped in my own head
That was 11 years ago and I don't think I really came back the same from it. It's an eternity in there, it's forever. Have you ever really genuinely grasped what 'eternity' means? We're not meant to comprehend it, and I certainly didn't.
everyone gangster until they see the walls doing this
I get that when I'm going to sleep
>t.hypnagogia
>everyone gangster until they spend several lifetimes going over every mistake they've ever made and every seemingly inconsequential thing they've ever said
KEK baby's first karma check?
>tfw if I trip it's always great because I don't have any meaningfully bad karma
lmao it's that easy
>dude, i needed to overdose on a psychedelic to realize i'm a loser
So you know you're a loser without even trying? Heh, great!
you have no negative karma because you have achieved nothing. it's better to have developed a sense of evil than to stick around net-0. nice that you had a fun trip but you'll need to live yet another life while i get to chill in nirvana.
I achieved a fat shit this morning does that count?
Mfers don't understand that Salubri Ante is the way forward, not full Baal or full Salubri homosexualry. Moral dunning Kruger effect is wild, can't understand good unless you've experienced evil
he's done you and he's not even in this realm!
I mean REALLY, who materializes in the upper realms without some basic meditation and tea first.
>didn't even bring choccy biscuits to the 17th astral realm
Anyone else find their hypnagogic hallucinations comforting?
mine are really cool sometimes - very visual. i also hallucinate music in hypnagogia (as in original compositions ranging from rap to hindicop to country, neo-classic, baroque, etc)
jus looked this up I thought it was a normal thing
It is a very normal thing. Ever get that thing when you're drifting off to sleep and you either feel like you're suddenly getting propelled forward at a great speed/dropping off a great height or your hear a very loud bang/explosion and jolt up wide awake? Exploding head syndrome.
Is it normal to NOT get it?
How are images like this made?
inspired carpentry and interior design
stablediffusion
everyone gangster until they spend several lifetimes going over every mistake they've ever made and every seemingly inconsequential thing they've ever said
I didn't speak anything beyond basic answers to questions for months. Didn't share my thoughts or feelings for the better part of 2 years. It didn't matter, none o' this mattered. I think this is the most I've ever really talked about it beyond trying to get my wife to understand what long periods of time are like.
Since I am a reasonable BananaGod I will explain to your mortal brain what happened.
That crystal you took temporarily aligned you to another temporal dimension.
Not your puny mortal body but your electrical/magnetic consciousness field that you call "you" or whatever, it's aligned to certain frequencies. If you change that your puny mortal brain experiences far too much time than is possible for your brain or body to handle.
Thus the experience is both incomprehensible and impossible to share.
Ah, mortals.
I had this on a spice trip of all things, I passed out and felt as if I were falling, through darkness, then one by one it was like the synapses of my brain lit up and I could at once see things as I remembered them and pieces myself back together, there was a lot of re-living of my life after that. I cannot remember the six months after.
this is the problem of taking too much. You hear so many people extol psychedelics online, but there are also so many people that become "burnt out" from taking too much. The ideal psychedelic trip is where you can sort of detach from yourself temporarily to look at yourself from a more objective perspective, but then reattach to yourself and go back to being "you". Too many people stay detached and don't know how to come back to the ground.
I looked, I looked deep, and I did come back to 'me' (whatever me is). The problem is that by looling too deeply, once you return to yourself it feels like you're wearing someone else's clothes, it doesn't quite fit right.
I understand what you're saying about the ideal psych trip but honestly that jumbo trip was what I needed in the long term, it really blew the cobwebs out the rafters, so to speak. Helped me become a better version of me. There's still a long way to go though, the struggle is eternal. We are both Sisyphus and the boulder.
There are ways to achieve what you have without going into a fugue state for 2 years, i.e. avoiding exactly the problem you said was a problem. Just be yourself ;)!
>The problem is that by looking too deeply, once you return to yourself it feels like you're wearing someone else's clothes, it doesn't quite fit right.
You saw a part of the truth but didn't complete the journey.
Now you know there are holes in the narrative so it will never be real again.
You truly experienced that it's all a game instead of that just being some thought or feeling. society just a game, man
nah you really figured it out a bit.
you gotta figure it out completely then come back again to feel full again
lotta people go crazy when figuring it out completely and don't come back so be careful
but what do I know
>once you return to yourself it feels like you're wearing someone else's clothes, it doesn't quite fit right.
That feeling is exactly what motivated me to start changing shit in my fucked up life
after I had my shroom trip I felt similar. when my ego rebuilt itself that faded away and I went back to normal. even saying this makes me feel like I'm contradicting what I know deep down and I'm just flinging shit at a wall. there is literally no point. The more I study buddhism and that sort of thing the more I realize that I basically figured everything out after my shroom trip and that's why it was total hell
The ego is destined for nothing but death and when you fully realize the emptiness of life but still have the desires of said ego, you're in hell, cause you're your ego. think that's why the buddha said the pull the ego up by its stem so it's overcome permanently and suffering is overcome permanently
>think that's why the buddha said the pull the ego up by its stem so it's overcome permanently and suffering is overcome permanently
What right have I to annihilate the poor simple person I perceive as me?
I can learn to copy with a lifetime of suffering if it means the vessel I inhabit experiences a lifetime. We're here on repeat, if we are truly detached and not suffering then surely the right thing to do is to sit back and enjoy the ride.
>What right have I to annihilate the poor simple person I perceive as me?
You're implying there are more than one you
By every right you were born with, you can figure out the truth.
Figuring out the truth and setting yourself free is your literal birthright
It's difficult to talk about the self, or lack of, using language. constant confusion and contradiction happen
if you believe there is a you to annihilate anything then I implore you to try and find it to see if it even exists.
you may be busy for awhile
Uh... this happens to me sometimes when i wake up at night. What does it mean?
Nta but its basically your brain being kicked out of REM sleep so you have this visual residue for a moment.
Your brain releases DMT when you sleep. If you wake up in a release cycle you get some of the after-effects.
BTW, if it happens a lot, it might be a sign of sleep apnea or some other sleep disorder. The actual hallucination itself isn't anything to worry about.
thats the phosphenes in your eyes triggering from low oxygen levels, you probably have sleep apnea
I do have sleep apnoea and wake up 80 times an hour according to my sleep test
I get this a lot and my theory is that it is how dreams are fed to our brains. Like, there's some elaborate image generation algorithm in our brain that constructs images from complex geometric patterns.
It's the other way.
Reality is fundamentally crazy complex multi-dimensional fractal geometries and our brains filter all that crap out, so that we experience a particular "channel" of reality", like a channel of radio or TV, it's based on a certain frequency.
Modulate the frequency of experience and you pull in other data. The human mind tunes itself to realities.
Your consciousness is made of electrical and magnetic impulses, magnetic from your heart:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetocardiography
And electric from the brain:
https://www.bu.edu/articles/2019/how-electrical-activity-travels-through-the-brain/
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/brain-electric-field/
^ it's the synchronization of the field which leads to this effect here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-organized_criticality
yeah i also subscribe to this theory.
My reasoning for why dreams are so crazy and can feel like they last so long is because your brain isn't being bottlenecked by your physical senses
That animation is very close to what i see, except there are layers of patterns that move at different speeds and angles? Often hundreds of thousands of layers stacked on top of each other
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphene
I swear you dumb phospheneposters show up to claim that crap all the time. You're not special and it's not even an unusual hallucination.
>My reasoning for why dreams are so crazy and can feel like they last so long is because your brain isn't being bottlenecked by your physical senses
Really depends on the individual there anon
If it's not unusual then why when i described it to my neurologist, she had never heard of it?
>If it's not unusual then why when i described it to my neurologist, she had never heard of it?
Because she's a midwit lmao. Ask her a question in latin and see if she can respond.
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thanks for the update
pressing on your eyes a little bit really is just like psychedelics. just save money and touch your eyelids.
I used to do this as a kid a lot because I went to Jesus school and the church service things we had to go to were very boring. Should have known I'd take to tripping.
Is it phosphene if my arms also feel like they're phasing through the patterns and my surroundings feel like they're at a low frame rate?
>pressing on your eyes a little bit really is just like psychedelics. just save money and touch your eyelids.
True, I squeeze my eyes and get trippy visuals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed-eye_hallucination
i can force this effect with my eyes closed at any time
I was on mushrooms and my wall was doing this. I invited a girl to check it out, she was an innocent cutie who lost her virginity months before when she moved in. She had no fucking clue what I was talking about and tried to kiss me but I was so looped that sex wasn’t even a thing to me. Never did end up having sex with her but I have to admit I felt cringy thinking about how I’d invited her to watch my wall melt kek
Bros I miss the early 2000s. If I did that now it would be on YT and I’d probably be accused of sexual assault.
I've been contemplating taking acid but I have schizoid and autistic traits so I'm afraid that I'll develop schizophrenia.
Basically I have many neuroses such as fear of death and was hoping LSD would cure me of them.
Or it might fix it.
how old are you? if you're past 24 you should be okay to take a tab. Just start low and slow, and if you're really worried, keep a piece of paper or some kind of reminder that what you're going through will end. Also keep in mind that if you're freaking out about it that will tend to be self-fulfilling to create a bad experience. If you start with a low dosage and you start to become uncomfortable, you can at least think to yourself "at least I know I objectively took a low dose and that it will not get worse than this".
You should also consider mushrooms too btw.
Your fear of death might also evolve to something from "I don't fear death" to "I fear dying". Death itself is inevitable, but ideally one wants to die well. Me dying would suck, but be tolerable, from a third person view of myself. I just don't want a protracted experience of suffering like for months on end.
If all goes well though, the experience should also help you appreciate the need for trying to strive for authentic human connection with others to come out of your schizoidy shell some. If you start with a low dose though, the first experience might not be revelatory for you, and that's okay. Just chill at your house and enjoy music or whatever. That way the next time you can take a higher dose since you know how the drug will work and you'll have less anxiety about what it might do, THEN you can really attempt to go in for introspection and to contemplate your life
Not great advice. It depends on how crazy he is and how pre-disposed to breaks with reality he is as well.
If he's schizo like "I think weird shit", good to go. If he's schizo like: "I have to close a portal to hell by stabbing garbage cans", don't.
dumbass phosphene posters
Schizoid is not schizo.
Sorry I don't care about psychology terms at all
fuck allowing others to dictate your mentality to you
You were calling my advice bad and just seemed to be doing so from a place of not understanding the terms
Anon knows his mind best and if he's saying schizoid then I believe him. Schizoids are common enough personality types in society and then have a spectrum from functional to not, people just don't understand how they appear interpersonally as compared to what you'd read on their Wikipedia page.
>You were calling my advice bad
Reading comprehension: F-
"not great advice" nowhere does it say "bad". Learn to read lmao.
you're still being rather aggressive for a person who has taken psychedelics
>you're still being rather aggressive for a person who has taken psychedelics
It's just a tool to me and nothing more.
Doesn't affect my personality, I'm not a cuckboy.
>WOAHHHHHH I COULD HAVE BEEN LIKE... SOME OTHER KIND OF PERSON
>I SHOULD DO THIS AND THAT AND
Nah fuck that lmao. I use that sh*t for power.
Based non-spiritual hallucinogen user
Ancestral spirit cucks malding
I'm past 24. My fear of death is primarily the fear of leaving this world, fear of losing others around me, and lastly fear of the physical pain I'll be enduring in the process.
>the experience should also help you appreciate the need for trying to strive for authentic human connection with others to come out of your schizoidy shell some
I was never diagnosed but I fit the traits of autism and schizoid to a T. The things is I have striven for human connection but it's hard because I have a hard time conversing with most. But I appreciate those who do.
The tough part if I do decide to take a dose would be finding people who sell it.
Consumerism won't solve anything for you. You have to do it yourself, and LSD might be willing to help you.
>How old are you?
How to spot moronic advice fast.
Don’t do any drugs. Seriously, they are not the Evangelion every junkie makes them out to be. Every single realisation you can have on drugs you can have without drugs, and at no risk of developing a lifelong psychosis. You don’t need drugs. You need friends. Talk to your friends. That’s better than drugs.
Friends are gay, drugs don't ask for money or help with their retarded problems. You need less friends and better drugs.
You need to learn what love is before it’s too late.
You need to not be a homosexual but it's already too late
Love is an illusion on par with time, it doesn't exist naggerhomosexual. The fact some basic bitch happy chemical flush can make you think you truly understand what is just the biological impetus to protect what you pork is hilarious and confirms you as a genelet. Please reproduce as we require worker drones to keep the factories running.
Not him but who cares if love doesn't exist? Nothing exists. Love is still something you can experience though. And it's the best experience possible to strive for in the human forms we are temporarily in.
I have love, I'm in a relationship of 7 years. Objectively it's useful but it's still shit, there's no real difference between the highs and lows of bachelor life into depressing greybeard or husbando life into depressing grandfather. The perspective in each setting is what matters and your perspective sounds like one that requires external validation, you absolute bitch boy.
>Objectively it's useful but it's still shit, there's no real difference between the highs and lows of bachelor life into depressing greybeard or husbando life into depressing grandfather.
It sounds like you settled in life anon. Hopefully you're in a relationship with the right kind of woman. If you both are willing to undergo mutual journeys of self-improvement, you will really be able to achieve some amazing emotional highs in live and a feeling of love you never thought possible.
Sounds like you love to project. I will never settle unless I get to Ultron all movement and life in the universe so I can have some fucking peace and quiet. But unfortunately that's not a possibility so I have to contend with being annoyed at all you chimps for your horrifically retarded takes and this exact type of "it will get better" pseudo spirituality.
This is why you need to learn how to love.
You need to learn how to hate. Love comes naturally. I would loathe to be in a fight with you, turn around and see you trying to hug the guy who has a shiv. men today need test correction.
Not him but you're just projecting on what he means. Trying to strive for experiencing true love does not mean you'll be some pushover that tries to make peace with the guy who is stabbing you. The whole of human experience includes violence and aggression. For example, I understand that I am inescapably human, but also inescapably male. That necessitates that I appreciate what it means to have to deal with male aggression properly. My approach to violence is that I will NEVER instigate or bait it, but the second someone starts it against me, I will be absolutely ruthless and dirty in putting that person down.
I disagree, there is a massive difference. I have kids and a fulfilling career and loving wife and yes life isn’t perfect, it’s not supposed to be, but it is immensely rewarding and you get what you give. I don’t usually compare myself with others, but if I consider now my DINK or single peers who fill the void with consumerism, travel and vicarious living through IG there is no comparison between our lives in terms of fulfilment.
You’re wrong in saying any path you choose is ultimately the same and I think you’ve simply settled as
stated and are trying to rationalize staying in your rut via sour grapes and fatalism.
Look at this guy, he got hoodwinked by the gene code. Absolute pleb take, I had semen demons and they made me happy so they're the ultimate form of existence. All you've done is add to the pile of things that can destroy you when they're taken away. You just put chinks in your own armour, you fool.
Like I said, a defense mechanism involving fatalism.
Every single one of your emotions and motivations comes from your genes yet you think sneering at the ultimate biological imperative and also the social instincts inherent to your species is somehow liberating, unique and a solution. It’s not, it’s simply rationalizing failures and poor thinking/behavior in a way that makes you feel on top, superior and a wolf among sheep. It’s kid thinking and you lack the self-awareness to see the hypocrisy.
Those motivations only come from genes if there is no soul, which means the experience is all we get and so it's meaning is subjective, ie nothing once everything is said and done and you cease to be. If there is a soul, then it means the biological chain is likely some kind of suffering porn for higher entities or a test to ensure civility when you enter the higher planes of existence. Either way, it's a rort and a shit dance that I refuse to participate in just because morally superior fuckwits like yourself espouse it as the best way to live. I don't want hookers and blow, I don't want a nice family life. What I want is all of you, gone. Because it would bring me joy to see this world cleaned of your type of self gratifying thought. You really think you're the only nagger to wife a bitch and it "all feels right now?" Yeah that's your dick giving you a thumbs up for continuing the DNA chain, nothing more. You just fell for the drugs that exist preprogrammed in the body.
>all of reality is materialism
>so instincts and other biological mechanisms are false and not to be trusted
Kek okay. I think you need to work a little more on your philosophy.
There's a good chance I'm just insane and have self rationalized into a corner. Even in that scenario I don't care because the rest of you are just so fuckin gay and boring that I would prefer to be delusional than spend 1 minute listening to you talk about whatever gay shit little Timmy got up to at school today
I can smell the Euphoria by Chudvin Kope dripping off of you, anon.
tf is that.
>You need friends. Talk to your friends. That’s better than drugs.
Most of them left this half podunk town. The one that lingered gave bad vibes. Besides them, it's hard for me to make them. I socialize well with special needs people because I'm on the same level socially as them. But as much as I am socially disabled, my intellectual capacity isn't that low to have anything much in common. So it's hard for me to make friends.
I've been considering Tinder for friends and maybe something else. But that's if I get matches, which is already difficult.
Tinder is fucking gay, it's a hookup app for each end of the attractiveness bellcurve so you're either constantly fending off troons and hambeasts or constantly power dynamic struggling with Stacey's that have 5 other dudes booked for the same date night.
Psychedelics will give you a lot of things. They'll give you back the spice of life then take it away if you abuse them. They'll give you new facets of personality and then quash them just as quickly. They'll make you fall in love with life and also show you there's zero point to doing anything, including giving up.
Stop relying on external forces to make your internal order ordered. The universe is a gay soup, only through will can you not feel as internally gay as it is externally
Getting matches on Tinder can be difficult if you haven't keyed your psychology properly to match those who are with serious intention trying to form a connection on the app. Most people on the app aren't serious about trying to form healthy authentic connections with others. You can get jacked and make your profile real prime f boy status and attract that kind of women on Tinder and get plenty of matches that way, but it won't be quality matches for what you really want in the long-run. There is an art to authenticity and it takes some self-awareness (and patience especially) to pull it off on an online matchmaking service
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A low dose of psychedelics can help give you the nudge you need. The other anon is right in that one doesn't *need* psychedelics, but it definitely can help. At the end of the day, the real factor in whether a person makes it is if they have the willpower do just do the stuff you have to do every day, every week, to try to make progress. Psychedelics won't magically fix your life, they just give you a push that you have to actively choose to take advantage of. You're still going to have to put the work in. I come from a schizoid perspective myself and got autism ruled out. Psychedelics can help in that they'll help you become aware of how you're the common denominator in the issues facing your life. Like I'm regarded as a really nice guy by most people, yet when I was younger I was never really close to anyone. It caused me a lot of confusion and anguish to try to understand how both things could be true simultaneously - shouldn't good people have friends? I had to become self-aware about the fact that my politeness was something I used as a shield, even if unintentionally, to keep myself from becoming close to others. And it's tragic because I just had to break up with my first girlfriend who suffered from the same issue who was just not willing to go on the same self-improvement journey I was to put in the work
Friends are better with drugs.
this guy gets it. any 'realisation' I have had on drugs I already was well aware of sober. it juwst felt more significant when the though came to me on drugs.
>drugs dont ask for money
fucking kek.
Well they don't. The dealer does but bro up enough and you get freebies. I once got a p for free just because he was going on holiday and it needed to move.
These
I have schizophrenia and had it long before I ever did a tab.
Would I recommend it? No.
That said once the weird loops stopped I could enjoy watching BBC's Planet Earth.
I had some good times tripping but it was with weird research chems. AL-LAD was my favorite until I decided I needed to stop frying my brain further.
>I have schizophrenia
I highly recommend checking out Jerry Marzinsky's stuff on youtube.
Just the titles of his videos are enough to put me off from ever watching them
Demons and entities? lol that's some next level crazy
>Interdimensional entities in MY head? It's more likely than you think!
I agree, it sounds nuts, but the information he shares is fascinating.
The best advice you'll hear from me, is if you have any fear or anxiety, your gonna have a bad trip. Go into it with a positive mindset and it'll be fun. With that said, sometimes a bad trip is a good trip too.
I chased my friend through a cornfield on a full moon blasting satanic music while we were both deep in some mushrooms. My other friends thought i was fucked up, and my friend was shooken up, but the next day he said it was fun, as if he was in a horror movie
LSD is too long lasting
Facts, also the high is a bit too "sharp" for my taste. Shrooms are a bit unpredictable but feel a lot nicer. Best trip I ever had was doing a hike on shrooms in the Oaxaca highlands. Never felt so much in tune with myself, the group I was with and the world in general.
I get the opposite, shrooms is too dull and the high does its own thing, and I could never trust nature while tripping
Taking too much acid and sword fucking NPCs in blade and sorcery though, I'm there
Nah, you just have to plan around it, get everything you'll need for the day in order, and assume the day after is for recovery.
Optimal time to drop is around 10am.
For me, it's Alice in Wonderland Syndrome. I've had it since i was 7. No idea what causes it but it's usually brought on by lack of sleep
What was the weirdest thing you saw?
I remember my house turning into a massive green field and seeing a bunny chasing coins. I was running around the house absolutely terrified. I was probably 12
>For me, it's Alice in Wonderland Syndrome
How so? Also, do you get migraines or dizzy spells?
No migraines but i hear people who seem like they're far away talking in my head. Usually in a malevolent tone
that sounds like prodromal schizophrenia but if you've had it since you were 7 and you haven't gone full schiz then I guess you're good to go as long as it doesn't fuck with your quality of life.
For me it's the translucent pink spiders climbing up my walls every now and then upon waking along with the 3 knocks on my bedroom door when there's noboody there.
They used to spook me but i'm used to it now.
Stop abusing diphenhydramine or the glass spiders will overrun your life
psychedelics are just a bad time honestly
(acid was fun but I could tell it could go bad at any time, also my dumb fuck friend put hell raiser on while I was still tripping)
I quit all drugs
I don't even drink coffee anymore
Who here /machineelves/?
DMT really is the best psych. The best visuals, bodyfeel, mindset, its just perfect.
I have been taking acid every weekend for about 3 years now and even eternity can get boring eventually.
I had never dropped acid before and one time took 500u on a whim one time, thinking I'd just watch some movies or something, but at some point I got caught in my bedroom in the dark. I couldn't visually hallucinate at al in the dark, so all the stimulation went into my brain, and I just sat there for hours expelling my thoughts aloud. I really think I almost broke and went permanently schizophrenic.
At some point I realized I was just forgetting everything I was saying, so I decided I needed to record it. I made about 80 2-3 minute recordings on my phone of my trip. That was a few years ago and for some reason I've still never been able to bring myself to listen to them.
You should upload them to the thread. I guarantee its all just mumbo jumbo
Listening to your own recorded acid babble while sober is a great way to keep perspective about these drugs. Most epiphanies you have will end up being total gibberish
Everyone discovers the meaning of life on shrooms and then forgets it
Is microdosing full of shit, guys, or are those Silicon Valley techbro nerds onto something?
It's shit. Silicon Valley techbros are just nepo nerds that live to close to artfags so they end up doing the dregs of their drugs. Take a 10 strip and break reality, it's already fucked
Multiple studies show it's not effective
Smalldose instead, 5-25ug gives you a nice boost. Any more than that puts you on the edge which is not a pleasant feeling
i like doing small doses of shrooms, not microdoses but just enough to notice it
yep, plus you can keep eating small amounts to extend the feeling
automatically makes my dart game a lot better
last time I microdosed with friends, I basically turned into The Bear(tm) and sauteed a massive pile of peppers and onions to eat on steak sandwiches. It was so fucking delicious.
I've got a metal tin at the back of my cupboard with baggies of dried shrooms and tabs that I haven't touched in almost a decade. Will they still have any effect now?
No. Might sporulate if you plant them in a good substrate tho.
Had some pretty bad thought loops a few trips ago, and now every time I get really anxious that I'm gonna get stuck like that again
Loops, you say?
>My friend drinks enough robotussin to get to the third plateau by himself in his apartment
>Tries to enter his kitchen through a doorway but everytime he enters the kitchen he walks into the living room he just left
>is trapped in his infinite living room for the next 8 hours or so.
I personally eny you hippie brainlets finding all these deep messages and meanings in the colorful pictures your brain generates when you add some funny molecules to the system. I could never shake being firmly rooted in my intellect and explaining the experience purely from that perspective.
It's not just colorful pictures they can generate, religious/mystical experiences as well for example. You can also have those sober and they're a very powerful phenomenon your brain is somehow capable of.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_experience
Also known as drinking the imaginary Kool aid. anyone who tries to tell me they found God while tripping and doesn't immediate start discussing the Monster Group is dismissed as a retard and a smelly hippy.
There's certainly an imaginary and dangerous aspect to it but it can have profoundly real effects on people, it doesn't have to be delusional, it can change their perspective and personality for the better. It's especially interesting when used with people that are chronically depressed or terminally ill, they might be helped to let go of their fear of death or faulty reasoning and get a new outlook on life through an experience like that.
You can be intellectual and take psychedelics and have them reinforce and strengthen that perspective. It's just that it's mostly only low dreg NEETs taking psychedelics and going around sharing their anecdotes as a burnt out husk. Successful people who take psychedelics rarely spend their time online anonymously talking about their experiences. Psychedelics let me become so intellectual that I also grasped the deep need to try to form an intimate relationship. My intellectualism lets me fully confront the fact I am inescapably a human animal with emotional needs and not magically above that no matter how much I pretend or wish I wasn't. I did not need to give up the intellectual part of myself to achieve that.
Permavirgin autist tries compound which gives him enough clarity to recognize he is the reason for his permanent virginity. More at 7
If you're mocking other people healing it sounds like you still have some healing of your own to do. I genuinely hope everyone makes it. Not everyone does, and I'm at peace with that, but I do hope that everyone makes it. It's something only that person can do for themselves though. People have to save themselves.
People are just atoms that learned to sound off in unison, there is inherently no meaning to "making it" or "getting better" and if we didn't have poorcucks, crack heads or women to compare ourselves to we wouldn't know when life is good. Cease your meaningless self masturbatory kumbaya proselytizing and realize nature and therefore the universe does not care for your bullshit and would start eating you from the asshole first if it could.
>and realize nature and therefore the universe does not care for your bullshit and would start eating you from the asshole first if it could.
I realize this and I do not care. Yes, I am just atoms and nothing more. But I am atoms assembled for now into the pattern of a human, and a human experience is what I must live until my atoms are recycled into something else. For the time I am a human, I want to strive towards the best possible experience of being a human, and that's creating true love with another person. And true love requires true vulnerability which I have to be prepared to risk.
Pathetic
I hope you make it
He won’t. People are their worst enemies and those who respond by digging into deeper ruts and reinforcing their defence mechanism-only to wonder at night why things aren’t better-rarely improve. They tell themselves it’s a cold hateful universe while simultaneously waiting for fortune to fall into their laps and bemoaning those who they see as “lucky”.
Talk to me if you're going to talk shit anon. I have a meticulously crafted public face that only gets better as retards like yourself show me the hoops you jump through to pretend you're happy, but internally it's always the same rage at the same monkey ass choices and same pathetic self actualizations you all have. None of you are special, all of you are pathetic begging each other for validation while wondering to yourself why the good feeling wears off. That's because it's a trick, an illusion, a sleight of mind. Embrace hating everything, it's way more neutral if you're not an anger homosexual about it.
Cringe
You're choosing to be a villain instead of a hero. You're the kind of villain that bemoans the heroes as being false or artificial, instead of doing the hard road of actually being a worthy hero. You're taking the easy way out. I hope you make it anon.
Bruh there are no heroes or villains. Just people being witnessed from certain perspectives on certain days. To Diogenes Alexander was just some bumfuck in his way.
Ah sorry I thought you would understand that analogy. But you can embrace loving everything instead. Hate is just the opposite side of the coin. You can flip it. Loving everything doesn't make you weak.
For example, if some gangbanger attacks me, I will absolutely defend myself. I recognize his agency in that he has made a choice to attack me, and I have every right to defend myself and to put him down by whatever means necessary in order to protect the love I have in my life. True love does not make you weak - certain forms of love as preached by limp-wristed media certainly can make you weak, but that's not the love I'm talking about. Hate means you only have yourself to fight for. Love gives you so much more to fight for. Properly harnessed it can make you stronger than hate can.
I too have seen the Jekyll and Hyde miniseries by BBC and I reject your claim. Love doesn't build empires, or fathom scientific breakthroughs. It doesn't exist beyond individual perspectives and even then people can't agree on its immaterial status beyond trackable chemical releases. Love is a joke and you're the punchline.
I haven't seen that show.
Who cares about building an empire or scientific breakthroughs? That's how you want to spend your life? No empire will last. It will turn to dust. Creating an empire will be impressive to others, but what do I care about impressing strangers? Creating an empire means spending your life in a rat race constantly managing one thing after another with constant stress and demands on your time 24/7 from people who aren't your loved ones.
Who cares if love doesn't "objectively" exist? It's something you can EXPERIENCE. What do you want to experience in this life anon? If you genuinely want to experience building an empire or something then go for it, but it's not for me.
I want to experience peace.
That is something you can achieve if you truly strive for it. External peace will require internal peace. Godspeed.
Forgive me friend, but X to doubt. My requirements for peace are billions must die. I cannot know internal peace until the external shitfuckery levels decrease.
How do those billions of people affect you from achieving peace? What direct impact do they have on you? The whole of Nigeria could disappear and I doubt my life would meaningfully change in the slightest. That's not to say the state of the world doesn't matter, but overall it tends to be a small factor in your personal life and not one you're meaningfully in control of. True peace requires understanding what's under your ability to influence and what isn't. I can't do anything about Nigeria but I can do something about the company I choose to keep, I can choose to take care of myself and I can choose to try to make good long-term decisions for myself.
The company I keep, the self care decisions and long term planning for myself still don't fix the millions if not billions of soulless drones currently consuming all the limited resources and space on the planet, expecting an upper echelon luxury existence when the entire system is currently unsustainable and strapped to Mr Bones Wild Ride. It affects me because it's a looming danger comprised of apathy from the drones and acceptance from individuals like yourself who have the passion and vision to be saviours but instead decide to be martyrs. Allowing the lowest patterns of the universe to place your pattern at risk of an ass fucking is not sage, it's just successful programming from the higher ups. You rejected bootlicking, but you accepted moralfagging. You got got. The highest quality, most nepo funded self care does not fix the inherent issues of human existence, which are lust, greed and aging, themselves linked to requirements to procreate, consume to survive and entropy. We have shitty biological imperatives because of shitty universal laws that everyone accepts because they're either too stupid to try and outsmart those laws, or too weak to bother trying. So I want peace, but I know it's a dream. So I'll settle for comfy hating everything like the rest of this Tibetan basket weaving board.
You can settle for comfy loving instead. You're putting too much of a burden on yourself. You and I are not able to fix the world. But we're able to fix our worlds to the best we can. That's what I meant by being a hero instead of a villain, it's not just about what you do for others, but also what you do for yourself. Hate does not make the world better - and it does not make your world better either. Existence isn't ideal. Of course I won't always be happy and comfy. Some pretty horrible experiences are ahead for me in life. But so are some fantastic experiences. Nothing matters and that is why I choose to try to influence existence for the better rather the worse. And there's nothing you can do to take that will of mine away from me.
Our meeting of wills must conclude here. I must go on to do other things for the day. I hope you make it in existence in the way that matters.
Ok I'm gonna schizo post but that RIGHT THERE IS THE PROBLEM
Yes, you are responsible. We all are. This kicking the can down the road of figuring out the actual rules of existence is bullshit. People think just because we haven't nailed a soul to a table yet it's some kind of excuse to chalk all emotional information up to internally directed impetus. It's not, you're fuckin like everyone else for rolling over and accepting your eventual death, and this is what disgusts me about the race. I seriously hope we aren't the only survivors of the Great Filter because if so that's fuckin depressing. People are plenty nice to themselves all the time, you don't see anyone flagellating or fasting anymore and they used to do that when shit was definably worse.
Anyway, you said you're off. Enjoy your time anon.
Peace comes from within. Your perception of reality is a reflection of your state of mind. Here's a simple exercise to experience peace: Imagine it.
All I see is red and black and screaming, so that doesn't work.
This is such a cringe outlook that most people shed after their teenage years.
The problem is people start seeing psychedelics as a regular medication/diversion instead of a tool to use and then move away from.
I’m always reminded of a Joseph Campbell’s quote:
>The psychotic drowns in the same waters in which the mystic swims with delight.
But I think the psychotic also applies to drug/psychedelic user.
that's where it would get you
you think you are safe from it but you aren't
The colors are a nice bonus, you don't derive meaning from them. Although seeing them may fuck with your preconceptions of perception.
>In order to cope with not feeling loved, we adopt a belief that makes everything less powerless and painful. The belief we adopt is “love doesn’t really exist"
acid is lame. it goes on for too long and after a few hours you start wishing it would just end so you can go to sleep. i've been told mushrooms are much better.
>after a few hours you start wishing it would just end
Never once thought this
Just dose early in the morning, like damn nigga. Or go to a rave if you’re genna be up all night
most functional people don’t have a whole day they can blow on acid without any responsibilities to attend to
If you don’t have a Saturday or Sunday once or twice month where you have no real responsibilities where you can just kill the whole day loafing around you need to reevaluate your whole life
Also, you can function reasonably well on acid off peak
Wtf, found this thread while watching peep show at exactly the same moment OP's image is from. What are the fucking odds?
>What are the fucking odds?
50/50. either it happens or it doesn't
>50/50, Jeremy? That's insane!
no offense friend but your math is fucking retarded
its almost certainly happened to someone before given the rewatchability of peep show, that specific episode being good and that screencap being popular
Coincidences happen a million plus times a second. You just don't notice them.
I ate the acid. I'm tripping right now.
Honestly I would trust myself to land an airplane on acid.
>RETARD
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>Laughs in Spiderhead ending
acid destroys my ability to use anything mechanical or electronic
mushrooms, yeah I could land a plane
drug users should all be executed
Calm down Duturde
shrooms made me racist
The first (and last) time I did acid was during a night of doing a lot of e. I deserved everything that happened to me. It kicked in during the comedown from the e, so everything turned into a nightmare.
I laid shivering in my bed for like 10 hours trying to not look at the ceiling lamp because it looked like a giant spider. Such an embarrassing thing.
yeah don’t do what this guy did
if you’re doing acid for the first time, plan it on as boring a day as possible
low dose, comfy in your room, no other drugs distractions or responsibilities
I made an trippy app that produces an after image effect. It’s only 99 cents. Anyone interested? If not that’s fine
Shrooms and acid are soiboy reddit drugs. Cinemaphile is a heroin website, get lost nerds.
You’ll cowards don’t even smoke crack
what's up with that?
>tfw walking home with a brain full of drugs and stepping on sticks, which immediately turn into snakes and slither away