they fricking hated each other off-screen, but they knew they had to stay civil to work together on something that benefits them. it's literally that easy.
Kelsey Grammer is a right-wing alcoholic nutjob that is only good to work with DURING a scene. Everything outside of those moments is a nightmare to handle due to his confrontational nature and lack of inhibition while soused. Also David Hyde Pierce is gay and Kelsey Grammer actively voted against his rights. It's a whole long history, but if you were wondering why David Hyde Pierce hasn't even addressed his absence from the reboot, this is why.
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Kelsey Grammer is a right-wing alcoholic nutjob that is only good to work with DURING a scene. Everything outside of those moments is a nightmare to handle due to his confrontational nature and lack of inhibition while soused. Also David Hyde Pierce is gay and Kelsey Grammer actively voted against his rights. It's a whole long history, but if you were wondering why David Hyde Pierce hasn't even addressed his absence from the reboot, this is why.
They didn't hate each other off screen, there's a dozen or so interviews they did together in the 00s. Even Lilith's actress said all the main cast were quite close on set.
But Kelsey is notoriously difficult when not doing a scene, and the cast and main writers for the show all said it was worth it-- they never called him an butthole or anything, just he was routinely drunk and that Kelsey was fricking magic when a scene started. He also skipped test shoots because apparently "pretending" to do a scene wasn't good enough-- he needed the pressure of being on camera, so when the scene had rewrites there was a lot of anxiety for everybody involved.
But that was only early on in the Frasier shoots-- by the 2nd or 3rd season's tapings they all realized what lightning in a bottle they all had in Kelsey and the rest of the cast respected it given his hard life.
People had more empathy back then. >t. deep dives into 90s/00s interviews that basically online exist as text transcripts posted on Web 1.0 blogs and TV Guide blurbs you can't find online anymore
Stop trying to push this stupid Mythbusters "WHOA THEY HATED EACH OTHER" mythos on every good duo in entertainment. Some people get along quite well despite their differences.
Fricking moronic homosexual.
Wrong. He hated him. I know more than you do. I'm glad you fall for public appearance PR coaching like a good little boy, though. Makes my job a hell of a lot easier.
this, also people like to forget that pre-2016 basically nobody made politics their whole damn life so the idea of quietly seething because a coworker had voted for Bob Dole instead of Bill Clinton would've been totally laughable. On top of that according to Pierce, Grammer was pretty chilled out on the whole closeted gay situation.
Reread my previous statements. You have been treated to insider information. Do with it what you will. DHP couldn't fathom me being on Cinemaphile airing out his dirty laundry, so I do not give a frick.
this, also people like to forget that pre-2016 basically nobody made politics their whole damn life so the idea of quietly seething because a coworker had voted for Bob Dole instead of Bill Clinton would've been totally laughable. On top of that according to Pierce, Grammer was pretty chilled out on the whole closeted gay situation.
ppl sealioning their favorite politics and head canon in these frasier threads are so passe
they both loved money and fame - just like all actors - simple as
if the frasier reboot was popular enough to give niles a frickton of money he'd come back.
unfortunately no one cares about frasier and david hyde pearce knows that capturing the magic of seattle isn't possible anymore(the city is just a hellhole full of migrant tech bros now)
David Hyde Pierce could barely contain his raw hatred for Kelsey Grammer by that point. It was spilling over into everything. Kelsey Grammer would fire all the best Niles writers just to get back at him for little passive aggressive digs off-set.
did you know that real people want to discuss things without redditors bringing up their "fun facts" about the subject of every discussion? yes yes Kelsey is probably terrible, Courtney killed Kurt, Michael Jackson made music for Sonic the hedgehog, who the frick cares? I made this thread to discuss Frasier, the television show Frasier and not anything else.
>How were Kelsey and David able to portray the family dynamic between brothers so accurately?
You made this thread to discuss Kelsey and David. Cope harder that your bro team got revealed for the work relationship it really is.
>I made this thread to discuss Frasier, the television show Frasier and not anything else. >>>How were Kelsey and David able to portray the family dynamic between brothers so accurately?
Cope. Seethe. Dilate.
8 months ago
Anonymous
>uhm... trannies!
you just proved my point. you didn't come here to talk about Frasier at all.
8 months ago
Anonymous
neither did you, you wanted to discuss Kelsey Grammer and David Hyde Pierce's professional relationship. moron!
8 months ago
Anonymous
no, I was trying to play coy about making a Frasier thread. you went full moron and made it about trannies or whatever the frick
Ackshully, in this interview from last year he and bebe said they would like to be on the reboot:
I wonder if something happened between him and Grammer or if he's going to do a secret cameo in the season finale. Or you know, maybe he read the script and thought it was trash so he kindly refused.
There’s a point where the writing don’t seem to be as invested in the characters at all any more, it comes slowly. It’s really sad. Check my picture, this guide was fun to follow throughout the series and compare with.
they fricking hated each other off-screen, but they knew they had to stay civil to work together on something that benefits them. it's literally that easy.
>they fricking hated each other off-screen
what, really?
Kelsey Grammer is a right-wing alcoholic nutjob that is only good to work with DURING a scene. Everything outside of those moments is a nightmare to handle due to his confrontational nature and lack of inhibition while soused. Also David Hyde Pierce is gay and Kelsey Grammer actively voted against his rights. It's a whole long history, but if you were wondering why David Hyde Pierce hasn't even addressed his absence from the reboot, this is why.
>right-wing alcoholic nutjob
Damn he's literally me.
nice hairline bro
destroyed
>Kelsey Grammer is a right-wing alcoholic nutjob
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Being right-wing is evil and you are on the wrong side of history.
Good.
Tends to happen when nigs kidnap, rape and kill your little sister
"soused" sounds like you're a black guy saying "sauced" which feels like it could also mean drunk
True. It is fairly based when you put it like that.
That tends to happen when Black folk rape and murder your sister. I'm sure David was jealous of her
David Hyde Pierce wants interracial murder to be legal. Black on white only, plus tip. Imagine putting sodomy ahead of society.
Lies.
They didn't hate each other off screen, there's a dozen or so interviews they did together in the 00s. Even Lilith's actress said all the main cast were quite close on set.
But Kelsey is notoriously difficult when not doing a scene, and the cast and main writers for the show all said it was worth it-- they never called him an butthole or anything, just he was routinely drunk and that Kelsey was fricking magic when a scene started. He also skipped test shoots because apparently "pretending" to do a scene wasn't good enough-- he needed the pressure of being on camera, so when the scene had rewrites there was a lot of anxiety for everybody involved.
But that was only early on in the Frasier shoots-- by the 2nd or 3rd season's tapings they all realized what lightning in a bottle they all had in Kelsey and the rest of the cast respected it given his hard life.
People had more empathy back then.
>t. deep dives into 90s/00s interviews that basically online exist as text transcripts posted on Web 1.0 blogs and TV Guide blurbs you can't find online anymore
Stop trying to push this stupid Mythbusters "WHOA THEY HATED EACH OTHER" mythos on every good duo in entertainment. Some people get along quite well despite their differences.
Fricking moronic homosexual.
Wrong. He hated him. I know more than you do. I'm glad you fall for public appearance PR coaching like a good little boy, though. Makes my job a hell of a lot easier.
Shizo
this, also people like to forget that pre-2016 basically nobody made politics their whole damn life so the idea of quietly seething because a coworker had voted for Bob Dole instead of Bill Clinton would've been totally laughable. On top of that according to Pierce, Grammer was pretty chilled out on the whole closeted gay situation.
Typical libshit logic
take your meds trannies
Frasier, Niles and Martin were all close
Wrong.
David Hyde Pierce fricking hated Kelsey Grammer's guts.
Is that why he did a video congratulating him a few years ago as tribute
you conflating shit from reddit =/= real life
Oh yes. More PR for the actor's former project. Why would he do such a thing?
Frasier fricking hates Niles. Deal with it.
and You will never be a woman
DEAL WITH IT CHUD
Good. That would be gay.
>if i keep repeating it that makes it true
moron
Reread my previous statements. You have been treated to insider information. Do with it what you will. DHP couldn't fathom me being on Cinemaphile airing out his dirty laundry, so I do not give a frick.
I am also from an insider information and I can confirm you're a massive homosexual
See how easy that work?
Good morning, sirs.
is australia awake already?
Oi' c**t, g'day
They are brothers IRL dumbass
Wrong.
Wrong.
Wrong.
He fricking despised him.
Dilate
Cope. Your cozy kino bros are actually working actors in an industry that thrives on hateful c**ts.
If you watched that show you do not matter.
ppl sealioning their favorite politics and head canon in these frasier threads are so passe
they both loved money and fame - just like all actors - simple as
if the frasier reboot was popular enough to give niles a frickton of money he'd come back.
unfortunately no one cares about frasier and david hyde pearce knows that capturing the magic of seattle isn't possible anymore(the city is just a hellhole full of migrant tech bros now)
Oh yeah? Well, you're passgay. Think on that with your frasier forehead. Fool.
What was it that made the show drop in quality quite significantly around/after season 7?
David Hyde Pierce could barely contain his raw hatred for Kelsey Grammer by that point. It was spilling over into everything. Kelsey Grammer would fire all the best Niles writers just to get back at him for little passive aggressive digs off-set.
the writers left and then came back like in the final season or whatever
Niles and Daphne getting together really ruined the dynamic of the show. There are still good episodes up until the end but it's just not the same.
what compels people to ruin what would otherwise have been a nice Frasier thread with inane culture war bullshit?
can't have shit in Seattle
what compels people to discuss factual information? hm, i dont know.
did you know that real people want to discuss things without redditors bringing up their "fun facts" about the subject of every discussion? yes yes Kelsey is probably terrible, Courtney killed Kurt, Michael Jackson made music for Sonic the hedgehog, who the frick cares? I made this thread to discuss Frasier, the television show Frasier and not anything else.
>How were Kelsey and David able to portray the family dynamic between brothers so accurately?
You made this thread to discuss Kelsey and David. Cope harder that your bro team got revealed for the work relationship it really is.
>bro the real Frasier is a drunk and Niles is gay!
that's all this thread is saying. it's essentially just celebrity gossip, nothing of value
>I made this thread to discuss Frasier, the television show Frasier and not anything else.
>>>How were Kelsey and David able to portray the family dynamic between brothers so accurately?
Cope. Seethe. Dilate.
>uhm... trannies!
you just proved my point. you didn't come here to talk about Frasier at all.
neither did you, you wanted to discuss Kelsey Grammer and David Hyde Pierce's professional relationship. moron!
no, I was trying to play coy about making a Frasier thread. you went full moron and made it about trannies or whatever the frick
Hey baby I hear the sirens blarin'
Dead Black folk with scrambled brains
Through the magic of pretending
2.5 hours of frasier kino:
>2.5hours retrospective
bruh you could watch the first twelve episodes in that time
Okay. And?
Ackshully, in this interview from last year he and bebe said they would like to be on the reboot:
I wonder if something happened between him and Grammer or if he's going to do a secret cameo in the season finale. Or you know, maybe he read the script and thought it was trash so he kindly refused.
Niles jokes but he is boiling over with disgust and hatred.
I'm on episode 18 of fraiser. When does the quality drop?
Dark Side of the Moon
When David Hyde Pierce can no longer contain his rage and starts sabotaging the show by taking subtle digs at Kelsey Grammer off-screen.
At the start of season 7.
There’s a point where the writing don’t seem to be as invested in the characters at all any more, it comes slowly. It’s really sad. Check my picture, this guide was fun to follow throughout the series and compare with.
>Rooms with a View: Bad
>Kissing Cousin: Good
lol