>Fricked off to a remote swamp planet and did nothing for 20 years while other people fought the Empire
What a little pussy b***h. Ahsoka, Sabine, Mothma, Herra, Leia...these people put everything on the line and brough the Empire down. This cowardly frick doesn't deserve to be called a Jedi.
minch
>What a little pussy b***h. Ahsoka, Sabine, Mothma, Herra, Leia...these people put everything on the line and brough the Empire down. This cowardly frick doesn't deserve to be called a Jedi.
Only the first 6 movies are cannon
>but dis...
nope
>bu
Nope
Try the first three prequelgay
>but
Nope
Wrong. Cope. Dilate. Seethe.
>master of anything
>has a fricked up speech impediment and sounds like a fricking absolute moron
What was George Lucas' true intentions behind these specific decisions I'm left to ponder.
The idea was that he's so old that his fricked up grammar was just how people normally talked when he was a kid.
Japanese story trope
The original idea was he talked like that because he was just pretending to be moronic. Afterwards George changed his mind and decided he always spoke like a moron because fans liked it.
His speech pattern also makes Yoda sound less like Fozzie Bear
His most famous line is
>do or do not, there is no try
Which kinda does sound “moronic”
And he didn't even want to train Luke until Obi-Wan twisted his arm. Then once he did, he just made him run around. Didn't even warn him about Palps lightning. Have we looked into if Yoda was in league with Palpatine the whole time.
Yoda being a secret Sith would be so kino.
he was also egging luke on to kill vader and palpatine
He had to hide so he could train Luke when the time was right.
I miss when there were like 2 Jedi left at the start of a new hope and not 1000 fricking OCs running around
It really makes you wonder where all these fricks where when it was time to train Luke. In Rebels, there apparently tons of Jedi were in contact with the Rebellion, and Leia knew about The Path from the Obi-Wan show. Its weird that force ghost Obi Wan had to appear and tell Luke to go to Dagobah. You think Mon Mothma or Hera Syndulla would have been like "Oh hey, you are a Jedi? You should meet my friends Ahsoka, Sabine, Ezra, Kaloren Beck, Cal Kestis, Cere Junda, and Eno Cordova."
they'll reboot the franchise in lass than 10 years to fix this all those stupid retcons
They'll reboot it to what? Exclude those things? No way man, all that shit is what star wars is outside the movies. In the EU Kyle Katarn shot 356,000 stormtroopers to steal the death star plans and Leia met Echu Shen Jon before A New Hope and Dash Rendar fought Boba Fett. This is what star wars is lmao.
Hollywood isn’t going to exist in ten years. Hollywood doesn’t even have high chances of surviving this year.
Hollywood maybe, but Disney will survive either way lmao
inb4 deSanctimonious win lmao
… anon their stock just cratered because they announced they were putting money into parks, cruise lines, and resorts. Which are only successful because of the success of their movies. Which is admitting their media ventures of the last decade, outside of a couple movies, were failures. On top of the fact their Star Wars land failed.
haha right
and trump will be reelect in 2024, sure
do you actually think this is far fetched?
don't like him, but you might be delusional
>he doesn't know about the forced Hulu buyout bill coming due in a matter of mere months
They must be scrambling to get a deal done for some of their properties but Yom Kippur is coming up lol.
The scam they were running until the strike was to leverage their expenses (individual shows) to fund more shows. This works only if you can keep generating expenses. Old scam for big companies.
Even if there were 100 of them at the time of ANH, it doesn't matter. Luke mattered because he was Vader's son and nobody else in the galaxy could have redeemed him.
There was more than just Vader. The Sith Inquisitors went around killing force sensitive children all across the galaxy. Yoda really just sat around eating frogs in a pond instead of going out and taking out some Inquisitors?
>MISTER VADER SIR, I MUST ASK YOU TO REDEEM
Who?
No one wanted to redeem Vader until Luke, and only once he found out he was his dad. Yoda and Obi-Wan didn't think he could be redeemed, so it's not like he was waiting for that possibility.
It does matter though
I don't care about your chosen one nerd shit that explains it away. The Jedi are supposed to be basically extinct, so rare some people question if they even existed at all. Obi Wan and Yoda should be the last ones. The idea that there are a thousand Jedi OCs running around everywhere on adventures with one another (and also a thousand minor sith minions chasing them as well) is dreadfully lame and ruins the mystique.
Not to mention a lot of these homosexual OCs seen to end up almost killing Vader anyways.
>The Jedi are supposed to be basically extinct
no they aren't
Lucas himself said there were at least 100 survivors
cope
He would just pull lore out of his ass randomly depending on if he thought he needed to make more content. There weren't even supposed to be three trilogies. It's one film that turned into three and then turned into 9 depending on how interested in making more movies he was or how he needed to blow smoke up investors asses.
Lucas ruined Jedi with the prequels. They should be a secret society like Shaolin monks, not fricking generals in an intergalactic war.
Did you not pay any attention to ANH? The implication was that they were a large group of warriors that were fighting wars, not the fricking Freemasons. Lucas changed nothing, you did.
>Lucas changed nothing
except
>I can only protect you, I can't fight a war for you
>we're keepers of the peace, not soldiers
People in the OT times don't even know what Jedi are.
Which itself is a little odd since the Jedi were numerous, and operated very publicly only 20 years before OT
It's been 20 years, they were terminated entirely and their record scrubbed from the books. It's an entire galaxy, not just one town. This would be like the FBI getting eliminated, 20 years from now do you think everyone would have vivid memories of the FBI? No. Do you come across them routinely? No. They would be a footnote.
>This would be like the FBI getting eliminated
Sounds great.
>20 years from now do you think everyone would have vivid memories of the FBI?
Yes, obviously.
No, not at all. It's a department of a few thousand people that deal specifically with issues and challenges to the state, they aren't your local sheriff or cops. We are given an impression of the scale, the Jedi are big enough to engage in small targeted skirmishes or conduct general detective/police work for the Republic but not big enough to fight a large war. Hence clones.
To add on to that, most planets didn't even give much of a shit about the Republic or its affairs. It was a very decentralized governing body like the EU.
Again, Disneyshit isn't canon
Lol inquisitors are literally openly hunting Jedi and the emperor was doing anti Jedi propaganda all the time.
Yeah, Nazis? Communists? Shit, those were just legends.
Are you legitimately moronic? People remember shit in the past. We still know who the Nazis or Confederacy were.
And people knew who the Jedi were you fricking moron, they just aren't intimately knowledgeable about them. In like the first 30 minutes you have a farmboy over in a remote planet expressing how cool he thinks they were.
These threads are so goddamn tedious and filled with the worst people
>remember Saddam Hussein
>no who the frick is that
This is the mentality of a normalgay who never reads about history and assumes nobody else does either.
No, the mentality of someone deeply obsessed with history and who understands just how moronic and surface level your average normalgay remains. You stupid fricking Black person. In terms of scale the Jedi are a small curiosity. We are talking about a galactic state, not your local city hall you turbo moron. There are several layers of administrative separation between a commoner and the Republic.
>galactic scale
>backwater shit holes like tatooine get tons of Jedi activity.
>a few interactions that happen to be notable to one familial story and not independent events
>tons of Jedi activity
Anakin grew up there, Anakin's son was placed back there to be with his family, that is literally it
>bro after 20 years people just forget everything and think it was all legends
You're a young ignorant homosexual.
>after 20 years, in a spatial context that is over 1000x larger than our own, a little known police order of a former governing body became even less known after the erasure of that governing body and total elimination of the force
Yes. Yes I do believe that. Kys
You're an idiot, 20 years puts the whole of the massive galactic war in LIVING MEMORY for the MAJORITY of the adult population.
The way you have it, WW2 would become myths and legends by the 1960s. But then we've already established that you don't read history books, so this analogy makes no sense to you. Oh well. Read a book, zoomer homosexual.
It wasn't a massive galactic war. It was an already weak, decentralized, overarching governing body putting down a small rebellion from one confederation of underlying planet-states. They didn't even have a standing army for it at first. If it had been "large" they would have been overwhelmed immediately. I can reiterate if you want, the implication is that the Republic is more EU than USSR in terms of centralized strength. If Netherlands decided to attack the EU, they would win.
>It wasn't a massive galactic war
>TheClone Wars(22–19 BBY) was agalaxy-spanning conflict between theGalactic Republicand theConfederacy of Independent Systems, which had seceded from the Republic.
>It wasn't a massive galactic war.
Okay so you're just substituting in your own story, not talking about Star Wars. Got it.
>It wasn't a massive galactic war.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Clone_Wars
>With both being fielded in enormous numbers by each respective side, they were the largest military forces in galactic history, and fighting between them swept through the galaxy for three, nearly four, years.
It was the biggest war in the history of the Galaxy. Frick you are a special moron.
I don’t understand, WW2 isn’t a myth/legend
If you had not eaten breakfast this morning, how would you feel?
How did you know I didn’t eat breakfast this morning???
I have truth-sense.
Jokes on you cuz I was lying
You're a stupid homosexual that will go to bump limit defending your moronic, already-refuted opinions. have a nice day.
You're mad that you've been called out for your historical illiteracy.
Sorry I'm drunk thought I was responding to the "FBI would be forgotten in 20 years" autist. Whoops.
really drunk it appears
They were not little known, Lucas ruined that by having them act as generals to hundreds of thousands of clones in a giant galaxy wide war. Han was just some scruffy looking nerf herder so he didn't know any. He was like a hick who finds out flip phones aren't a thing anymore, the only one not in the know.
In the Prequels, a random junk dealer on Tatooine is so familiar with Jedi that he recognizes a Jedi mind trick.
>i recognized your laser sword, thats a jedi weapon
9 year old slave on shithole
Kek forgot about that. Jedi must show up and try that a lot.
No one has ever claimed that everyone would know nothing about the Jedi dipshit. It's simply understandable that 500 billion people spread across an entire galaxy who were ever only vaguely familiar with them became even less familiar with them after they disappeared and their record struck from the books.
The fact that you think the average person today keeps up with the minutiae of defunct state administration from decades ago is unbelievably hilarious to me. They're currently circulating a meme trend that implies knowing things about the Roman Empire as a whole is a remarkable trait.
No one would say they're a myth. They had a holo net showing clone war footage of Jedi fricking robots up for years.
The Jedi were the generals in the Clone Wars. Then they tried to overthrow the Republic. People would remember if in Vietnam all of the generals in the military were Catholic bishops who charged into battle with flaming swords, and then at the end of the war they attempted to murder Nixon, which was when he disbanded the Presidency and declared himself Emperor. That's something people would know about.
The guy you're addressing has probably never heard of the Vietnam war before. He doesn't read history books and thinks nobody else does either.
This is a moronic point. Not everyone knew these things happened. The clone wars were very localized and fought by droids Vs cloned people, the average Joe didn't "feel" the war.
The whole Tattoine subplot was nonsensical. The ship has to land on Tattoine and they have fricking royalty on board, and their plan is to gamble their escape on a fricking pod race? Why would the Jedi council not just dispatch another ship?
Why would they not talk to another ship/junk dealer after the first israelite told them he didn't like their money? (?????)
He was the only junk dealer on the planet due to his ruthless business practices
ridiculous. his ruthless business practices like... letting anakin's slave mother sit around being an idle single mother all day long?
She wasn't idle. She was a prostitute. There wasn't a Tuskan Raider this side of Mos Eisley that hadn't left her full of bantha milk, if you know what I mean.
Now you’re getting it.
>suddenly remembering that jabba was a kid in the prequels
Why didn't Padmé's own not jedi guard just shoot watto in the fricking face? They're not jedi, no dark side for them. Why didn't Padmé ever send a Naboo Commando Squad to murder Watto and kidnap Shmi to keep he safe on Naboo if the Jedi Council werent gonna do shit?
>I love you! You’re not sand! Also please forget about my mother who’s a slave on tattoine and never use your connections to try to get her off that hellhole
The Jedi also operated their own city/state style compound within the capital of the fricking galaxy. Would people not remember the Vatican after only 20 years of it being unoccupied?
That temple isn't large at all. The entire planet is a city. You aren't helping your case. This would be like multiplying the size of Washington DC by 100x and then still keeping them in one single department building. And your region is an entire galaxy... not just one country. You stupid gays have no understanding of scale.
>This would be like multiplying the size of Washington DC by 100x
You don't know anything about Washington DC, do you?
Palpatine moved in and turned it into his palace.
I hate you unironic subhumanly moronic star wars gays so fricking much. How utterly fricking moronic do you have to write this shit and genuinely believe it makes sense.
They should wandering warriors or something. Like in those old Chinese and Japanese movies. Maybe Obi Wan was both a general and a secret monk.
>fricking Freemasons
Yeah, instead Lucas turned them into Jesuits.
Yoda and Obi-Wan didn't want Luke to redeem Vader, they wanted him to kill him.
There have to be a lot of o66 survivors because even as early as ANH it's established that Vader helped the Empire hunt them down after the clone wars. But most of of those survivors should be either dead or hiding forever by the time of Return of the Jedi, which they are even in new canon. The majority of the new OCs Yidsney came up with are either dead by the time of Return of the Jedi, or fricked off to the galaxy's outer rim for good.
Vader killed most of the Jedi himself, instead random troops shooting them in the back.
Yoda going into hiding while the Emperor operates openly fits with the ying yang story setup. The Emperor was previously hiding
Me too, but a handful of the office worker type Jedi surviving but not really able to do much except try and ambush Vader or something only to get killed or hunted down makes sense. What doesn't make sense is Jedi surviving all the way to ANH unless they're deep underground.
Anakin wouldn't have known every single Jedi. Or remembered them. But he absolutely would've known and remembered Yoda and Obi-Wan, so it makes sense they went completely dark the way they did. Yoda could not walk around in public like the extracanonical jedi do because hed be immediately noticed. Obi-Wan also needed to disappear. He was among the most powerful and well regarded jedi in the war. Some random shitter jedi who didn't even passively know Anakin could feasibly be more active.
He could just doff a wig and pretend to be yaddle, as everyone forgot about her
She was brutally and psychotically murdered by Count Dooku. He chopped her tiny little body to death in Tales of the Jedi.
Not canon.
None of this shit is canon or ever will be. Nothing ever written after the first 3 movies melds with those movies. Its all bullshit.
>the only person who knows what happened to yaddle is also dead
so what’s the problem?
I'm assuming someone found her diced up corpse but either way she was also a council member in the prequels and the Yidsney canon. So either way she wouldve been killed eventually.
Because there were not many lightsabers in the mouse war trilogy so they they started putting glowbats all over in the TV shows so people would watch
That’s pretty much the main reason ANH was never topped. It’s cool when you have a couple space wizards who happen to be fighting in the big star war but for some reason Lucas decided the big star war was actually just gonna be all completely about space wizard problem instead of based WWII in space and well here we are
It kind of breaks the purpose of obi-wan and yoda hiding if there are 100s of other jedi just fricking around just fine
Goddam right.
>Hey Luke, I know you're about to go battle Vader and the Emperor so I thought you should know that your father once had a padawan. She's probably alive in the outer rim somewhere and would be a valuable asset (for fighting and reason, of course, but I could go on for hours about the rest)
Ahsoka being alive post ROTJ has been a disaster for SW continuity
Star Wars continuity was always a disaster
>not the copypasta
The way Obi-wan speaks about the Jedi to Luke you would think is a very old and secretive order that was already on her last legs before the empire. It is more or less confirmed when no fricking one knows about them or the force.
Then George put 10000 of them ruling the republic 20years prior because he needed an excuse to have more shinny sticks
Even the clone wars sounded mythical.
you're overthinking something that's a myth/fantasy trope through and through
they are holy knights that were the paragon of virtue in the old kingdom and once the kingdom fell to evil forces they're are now disbanded and roaming the land aimlessly waiting to be roused to action once more
It takes longer than 20 years for things to become myth. They talked about them like they were nights of the round table. Shit, to go directly to what it was, they talked about them the way people in the Meiji era talked about samurai during the warring lords period.
>Original Trilogy: Yoda is just an incarnation of the "old master on the mountain" trope, the wise old one who knows wisdom is more powerful than mere force, but still teaches the heroes all the moves he needs to know. Everything works, because these are archetypal fantasy stories
>Prequel Black persontry: HURR DURR YODA IS LE GENERAL WHO LE CLONE WARS LE INFORMATION LE JEDI COUNCIL LE WHIP OUT HIS LITTLE LASER SWORD AND GO TO DOWN *entire story fricks itself in the ass and doesn't work anymore because it was written by an incompetent manbaby punching way above his intellectual paygrade*
Yeah, I always thought it worked better when he wasn't a badass himself. Reminded me of all the great boxing coaches who coach champions, but were never great boxers themselves. Once you find out Yoda is a badass, it makes zero sense why he didn't go kill Vader or Palpatine himself.
He was a little badass, but if someone wanted to fight him he’d just force lift them or play at being a moron while mind tricking them
>not me is who you are wanting fight! Real enemy is your own penis!
The prequel trilogy is all about how the jedi lost their way and it allowed them to be manipulated to their downfall.
And that's fricking ghey.
They hated him because he told the truth
Prequels aren't canon. Lil zoom zooms just don't want to admit it because they grew up submerged in shit so it's normal to them. 3 movies. That's it. You can't even watch the original 3 and anything else and feel like its the same universe or reality or whatever. They're so quaint and simple and fantastical by comparison to anything else. Theres the OG 3 and then everything else is just extracanonical nonsense. So you pick and choose.
Ironically the more Jedi that survive order 66 the more cowardly and incompetent they become
None of that bullshit is canon
>Ahsoka, Sabine, Mothma, Herra,
Who?
>Yoda is from Dagobah
>his wife Yaddle is from Dagobah
>The Empire never glassed that defenseless shithole swamp planet in the 20 years between ep3 and ep4 knowing full well that he might be there
Minchian
something something planet erased from Republic/Imperial records
That little roach haunted the Republic for 800 years before failing, it was a good thing he went reclusive.
he was psychically battling sheev the entire time. i bet that's in a book somewhere.
I like to imagine that Lucas originally intended for the Jedi order to only have like 100 max at its peak but when putting the prequels together made them an order of 10k.
>Disney retcons
Canonically speaking, the Jedi and their movement were utterly done for by the end of the 3rd movie. He sent himself off into exile on a shitty miserable planet as punishment.
By the time Luke shows up he's close to passing and the rebellion still isn't a bona fide resistance movement. With that said "courage" was never a Yoda trait, it's part of the reason why the Council fricked up on the Anakin question in the first place, he has a lot of wisdom but not a lot of conviction either way, he likes to suggest things but then go with the flow.
Watching Yoda fight with a lightsaber was the most embarrassing, cringe-inducing thing I've ever seen portrayed on the silver screen and I've seen a lot of dumb shit.
Yoda knew that all he had to do was train Luke. In the grand scheme of things, no one else mattered in bringing down the Empire and bringing balance to the Force. Also, if Yoda showed up fighting with the rebels, the Empire would have brought so much more heat down on them that they probably would have been wiped out anyway.
>Yoda knew that all he had to do was train Luke.
He turned Luke away because he was too old.
>Yoda knew that all he had to do was train Luke.
Yoda had no interest in training Luke. Obi Wan had to beg him.
The KOTOR story of Revan and Malak basically leaving the Jedi order to fight in the Mandalorian war only for them both to fall is similar to how I saw Anakin and Obi-Wan in the Clone Wars except Obi-Wan didn't fall.
I think when I was a kid, I assumed that Anakin was a general in the Clone war first, and then later became a Jedi.
>Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.
Han, they've been using this weapon just 20 years ago.
So? Its still an ancient weapon. There are people that call the 1911 ancient.
Episode 8 was a fricking disaster of a mess but the whole
>LUKE WOULDN'T HAVE RUN LILE A b***h WHEN HE FAIIIIILED ITS NOT IN HIS CHARACTER
kind of rings hollow when both obiwan AND yoda did the same damn thing.
>Fricked off to a remote swamp planet and did nothing for 20 years
Hes literally me. Only the remote swamp is my apartment
People in the 1960's be like
>ww2? Nazis? Hitler? What are those?some ancient religion?
>we did WHAT to Japan??
There is nothing inherently terrible about a few force users being alive in Luke's time. Following a former jedi's exploits after the collapse of the Order is a good premise for kino and there's a reason why it attracts people. Saying "but then why weren't those survivors leading the rebellion" is needlessly reductive, it's not hard to imagine that they had different life paths or their beliefs/loyalties shifted.
It doesn't devalue Luke's story either, he was important not just because he could wave a lightsaber or could use the force, he was important because he was Vader's son and because of his Christlike belief that Anakin could still be redeemed - those were two things no other jedi had or could do. Nobody else but him could have toppled the Empire, his narrative value remains the same even if some Glupp Shitto jedi survived on some backwater planet - Glupp Shitto could never get through to Vader or turn him against the Emperor, so his existence doesn't hurt Luke's value.
It's silly to discard the potential of the "order 66 survivor" premise just because it would bring one of Yoda's lines into question. (He isn't omniscient and he and Obiwan were often wrong about things anyway). You'd agree with this if the new stories with the other survivors were all really good or if they appealed to you. But they're usually not well executed so you discard them as something that should never happen.
So why didn't they just do this to the death star? Put some hyperspace engines on a lump of steel and fire away?
I don't care what anyone says this was the moment Disney killed their shit, I cannot believe they signed off on that fricking moron writing this shit. It genuinely boggles the mind. It is so aggressively stupid, obnoxious, and over the top. Even the dumbass mega death star wasn't this bad. Its so fricking stupid it hurts to think about. This and superman Leia was the end. I almost believe Fisher died from spite.
how they handled mark hamill and carrie fisher will never stop being funny to me
>Carrie Fisher digging her own grave with alcoholism & drug abuse
>dies
>the trilogy has an opportunity to tastefully say goodbye to Leia and make her death a strong motivation for the characters
>instead we get that bizarre "she's dead but she's not" space superman shit happens and she's awkwardly dragged along the story
meanwhile
>Mark Hamill finally got back in shape and hyped to return to Star Wars
>the trilogy has an opportunity to use Luke Skywalker again
>instead the character gets raped and dies in an awkward rip-off of Escape from LA
at least harrison ford went out the way he wanted, that's not too bad
Kek, this is one of my favorite parts of the sequels existing. They wanted Leia in Luke's role so bad and all they did was give her enough money to finally off herself.
Yeah she was always a moronic miserable b***h.
>mark hamil finds out luke dies in Star Wars during a press junket
>>Mark Hamill finally got back in shape and hyped to return to Star Wars
oh man don't remind me
i remember the early 2010s and those depressing images of a terrible looking fat Mark picking cigarette butts out of trash cans
then he really cleaned up and lost weight and genuinely looked like an older grizzled Luke and they wasted him on that bullshit
>hmm who do we have to focus on
>we can focus on the guy who gives a shit?
>no pick the stupid prostitute who always thought she was too good for it and retreated to do coke nonstop for decades as soon as she could
>in an awkward rip-off of Escape from LA
This was the weirdest part. Of all movies to pay a random homage to, why Escape from LA?
Because escape from LA was purposefully shit too
At last, I truly see.
Rian also ripped off one more movie you might know about.
In high school 20 years ago a buddy of mine was a Star Wars guy. One time he was explaining to me about how a Star Destroyer once came out of hyperspace and disintegrated against the Executor's shields.
That memory always comes up in threads like these.
wait so you remember things that happened 20 years ago?
I've never heard of the FBI, sorry.
Waco is an nice place and nothing bad ever happened there
If I could frick off to a remote swamp planet and survive alone for 20 years, I would.
It makes no sense if you factor in the prequels. Before the prequels we didn’t know he could do backflips and run circles around count dooku and the emperor or that obi-wan was able to kick the shit out of Anakin on every encounter. In the OT Yoda was an old monk that trained Jedi and used the force on a more mystical level than sword fighting there was no indication that he could do any of that shit. And Obiwan alone was considered no match for Darth Vader and the emperor. After the prequels it seems like they could have easily taken down the empire together with the remaining rebels and they were massive cowards in hiding. This is another reason why I don’t accept those films as canon. The tie-in doesn’t make sense.
>Little cowardly gremlin manipulating the republic from behind the scenes
Was Yoda israeli?
Han should've died at the end of ESB and first act of ROTJ should've been Luke reaping vengeance on Jabba and nearly falling to the dark side. Shouldve been wookies and not ewoks. Han had nothing to do after ESB so he stands by a door because he's Yamcha tier by that point and Chewie stops mattering as well.
With Han dead, Luke can now get with Leia, or may or may not still be his sister
also there should have been no reason for Luke to have an elaborate "get myself captured" plan in order to rescue Han. He could have just flexed on some fools in front of Jabba. If Jabba, tried to kill him, then Luke would be free to go nuts and kill everybody. No party-barge in the desert necessary.
A Jedi only uses the force for defense, never attack.
Good thing in this hypothetical rewrite Luke is teetering on the dark side already then. IMO it was never believable that luke could be tempted by the emperor, he's got nothing to offer him and nebulous threats to Leia aren't enough. Han dying would've added more to the entire third movie imo.
Marathoning Andor now so many cool ships they could have made
Preox-Morlana personnel carrier
Fondor haulcraft
Max-7 Rono freighter
Cantwell-class Arrestor Cruiser
Ferrix Shuttle ferry (picrel)
All we got was a Mobile Tac-Pod
with just one Preox-Morlana trooper
I can just imagine lego sets for this spacecraft flying off the shelves...
I never really gave a shit about Yoda to begin with, even in the OT.
He seemed more like a plot device than an actual character.
Alternatively, he meant to represent that there's more to the Force than simply going around being a badass, but in the end Luke DID have to go and be a badass so it is what it is.
He was literally 900 years old and dying. He was holding out on the last of what little life he had left, hoping the Skywalker kids would show up one day to be trained. Whatever fighting juice he had left, was sapped out of him in his battle with Palpatine.
>Frick off guy. We Jedi only like them young
Sure nice cope
>He was literally 900 years old
Is that all? That's barely longer than a turtle.