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Why was season 2 such a disaster? Hardmode, no:
>pointless lesbian bs
>no cave exploring
>I gotta go

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  1. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    too much interpersonal drama that i do not care about

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      This was unbearable. I gave up half way through the season, having absolutely loved S1. Each episode is now the same emotional conversations between whiny characters on repeat, with no progression of interesting mysteries from S1, while throwing around random new mysteries like the music box and the tower of blocks and the children, none of which are progressed in any way.

      Knowing this show, they will move on from all of those mysteries next season and start throwing around some new random ideas.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      For me, the episodes were about 10 minutes each. I was like the bell ringing guy but I pressed skip every-time there was a lesbian, rice-cell, family, hippy house, hippy characters, etc...
      Basically, watching this show is a legitimate chore.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Agreed. I expect most shows to have certain characters whose scenes I'll skip. Usually women who offer nothing besides emotional dialogue. But From has reached the point where there is sometimes 5 minutes of watchable content left, i.e. Boyd.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Jade

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Interpersonal drama is cheap. special effects aren't
      some more problems
      >nothing from season 1 was built upon
      >there are no stakes since you can easily outrun the creatures and kill them
      >we didnt learn anything about the music box/lighthouse/cicadas and they probably wont come back
      >the bus full of newcomers was a wasted opportunity
      >antisocial buschud was a wasted opportunity
      >spiders dont come back
      >the "you brought it back to town" entity was a dud that didnt do anything

  2. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's his problem

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        autism

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shitty writing.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Being raised in a shitty premise.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You....you don't want to know the answer...to that..

  3. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the 2nd last episode had some scariness to it but it felt budgeted throughout

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      the best episode i can remember. more happened in the finale but still felt like filler

  4. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    We'll talk later.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Im famous

  5. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Feels like season 1 was about monsters and it was exciting. Reminded me of tremors. (Instead of don't step on the ground, stay inside at night).
    But the music box was just boring. Should have expanded on monsters.

  6. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
  7. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    woke garbage

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      name 1 recent show that isn't.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Succession

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Succession was 10 times more woke than this shit lmao

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            People are incapable of understanding subtext and themes these days.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's subtle

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Demon Slayer and Heavenly Delusion

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >tranime
          kek

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Will you gays never learn?

  8. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know exactly why and I will tell you now and also tell you the end of From but I have to go

  9. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Cinemaphile continues to seethe the show got more popular
    Hilarious.

  10. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    DONT TELL ME WHAT I CANT DO

  11. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dumb c**t show-runner got added and went "Gee, I know it's only 10 ep a season, but we need some midwit tier dumb b***h drama now! I don't care that none of it's set up! Drama, NOW!" And then it went to shit.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I wanna get married!
      >ugh why did you propose?? we have to get married HERE???
      >whew we can get married later when we go home...
      >I want to get married HERE and NOW!!!
      What is the point of the fatima (more like skinnyima, am I right) character? Sucks the momentum out of every episode in S2

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I wanna get married!
        >ugh why did you propose?? we have to get married HERE???
        >whew we can get married later when we go home...
        >I want to get married HERE and NOW!!!
        Yeah, it's called character development, Chuddie, it's literally writing 101, but doesn't look like you know anything about that.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Write a different Fatima every episode
          >Call it character development
          kek

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        she's hot. she had a couple of good lines. but yeah her character and her bf are fricking boring and need to be deleted. i can only imagine it's in there for women and gays.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          just drop that boring af story, kill off boyds kid, and have her just being hot and playing mommy to the colony house degenerates, also she should frick julie

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >also she should frick julie

  12. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I really enjoyed the second season but it has some terrible actors and the few good actors can't hold that up but so long

  13. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >oh no why is season 2 so bad after a terrible season 1?
    Geeee I wonder why

  14. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everyone acts like a moron. There was some of that in season 1 but it wasn’t nearly as bad or as obvious. I just don’t understand why they don’t have a nightly meeting where they discuss all the weird shit that happens. Actually I do understand why, because then they would solve the mystery in three days.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      First 2 seasons of Lost did it right. The moron residents had a semblance of organization and at least it seemed like they weren't just running around moronic. Any time a character found out a new thing, they told a few others.
      But this show started OK, then just deteriorated into people that have nothing to do and nowhere to go all day, but apparently they never have time to exchange key information or ask important questions until 10 episodes later.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It reminds me of the boys where by trying to enforce the status quo for longer and longer the writers have to make the characters do more and more moronic things to not destabilise the script

  15. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Weekly release and filler episodes. If this was released all at once, it wouldn't have nearly as much problems as it has.

  16. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    me when I eat at arby's

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Shooting Boyd was a stupid scene.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I thought he was gonna shoot everyone like Boyd’s wife did

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It reminds me of Michael Scott in the improv class where in every scene he pulls out a gun because its the most dramatic thing you can do and no one can top it.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, that was moronic. Boyd just blows him away and that was that.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM CONDUCTOR WE HAVE A PROBLEM

      >DONNA WE HAVE A PROBLEM
      >DONNA WE HAVE A PROBLEM
      >DONNA WE HAVE A FRICKING PROBLEM

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      why'd the use the gayest man in existence to play a straight guy who lost his wife?

  17. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hope season 3 is already in development. I don't want to wait for a year to get the 2 separate storylines that converge 30 minutes before the end of the season

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Writer's strike lol

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Damn it. By the time the season is out, it'll be on ANOTHER streaming platform no one uses

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          If it doesn't die after season 2.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        AI would do a better job writing this shit anyway.

  18. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What if white people
    >But bad

  19. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't

  20. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >terrible execution
    >snail's pace reveals of the most moronic B-movie shit
    >constantly disappoints
    >Black folk levels are out of control
    waste of time

  21. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The individual scenes are not well-written, and they seemed to be directed by a newbie who told the actors to trust their instincts. So, the actors repeat themselves and are kind of awkward. They also don't have clear characterizations because they constantly contradict themselves.

    Like, Kenny was just all over the place. He hates Sarah, tells her there's a gun in the drawer, and then says "what the frick is wrong with you?" when she tries to kill herself.

    The writers confuse suddenly changing your mind with character growth.

  22. 10 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      From: bald chess player
      Lost: bald backgammon player

  23. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I gotta go

  24. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's not hard mode op.

    They introduced a meme amount of mystery box elements and instead of addressing any of them or carrying them throughout the season into at least some partial culmination we got a life threatening mystery box right at the end that is solved the very next and final episode of the season. A billion questions asked, one or two answered in an unsatisfactory manor.

    Who the frick is on the radio

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's going to be time travel.
      Tabitha's bracelet was on Victor's mom's wrist in the flashback.
      Also now that Tabitha is out of the pocket dimension she'll reenter it but at a different point in time.

      Also it's seemingly random who enters the pocket dimension, but I'm sure it'll end up being some weird time loop where all of them end up being involved in the mess that created the whole situation.

      Time travel trees etc...

      The person on the radio was one of them.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        guy on radio is julie dad

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >"it's my own clone!"

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's some space-time frickery or dimensional shit as well. Boyd plopped into the dungeon just as needed, yet all 3 are chain up, but in bed at the same time. So the dungeon dimension is the dream? dimension, but getting to it for now has no rules. I don't think Julie is out, just at a different point in time. I still think some of the building in the town get 'sucked in' which is why they're from different eras.

        Radio guy is probably just on a higher dimension monitoring.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wait, what happened to Tabitha's bracelet? Did they say?
        I'm thinking that she must have lost it and it somehow made its way to the town, but like 20 years ago.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yep its obvious. Tabithat will find victor sister irl and go back to the town but now she will end up in the time where victor was a kid and set up a bunch of things that she knows they found later so it all can happen. Some other character will be the radio guy and recognise tabithas husband name in the radio and warn him about the floor because tabithat would have told him by that point

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >who the frick is on the radio
      A spirit of the forest feeding on the inhabitants. Probly. All the voices, dreams, and other weird shit is the forest fricking with the humans just like the monsters do, to provoke an emotional reaction.

  25. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Less monster mystery, less horny bawds, worse pacing

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also
      >killed off Nathan, big booby Trudy, and based Khatri
      >replaced screen time with Randall, fricking Mari, and fricking Elgin
      Deleted interesting/likeable characters, replace with uninteresting/unlikeable characters

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        But Randall is based. He is clearly racist and misogynist, making him the best character on the show.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          The show is also written by liberal women, so he only exists to do evil shit, be demonstrably stupid, and get easily merk'd the second its convenient to the story.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            the show is written by one man, well he got a co writer this season also a man

  26. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Too much focus on Sarah. Victor being like "lol I forgot". Characters wildly changing their minds from episode to episode.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The forest is making them crazy.

  27. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ANGHKOOEY

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >ANGHKOOEY
      A quick google search says this word might be Greek for "he/she/it is listening", which seems to fit.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why are white kids from the 50's speaking greek?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          they are from the origional curse which was in the 1500s

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          the spell was in greek?

  28. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's enough, you're making everyone upset and we don't need this right now.

    I'll meet you at the colony house.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'll meet you at the cuck house.
      Fixed that for you, bro

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I'll meet you at the cuck house.
        This was dropped too. I think they realised too much sexual and romantic triangle bs drama would be detrimental to the show. Whole thing was supossed to be "lost but gory and sex fueled" from the start but they just didnt go there vecause its cringy. They did keep some gore tho

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fatima went from cuckold prostitute to "you are the love of my life i knew it since i first saw you and i will bear your baby and marry you" tradwife

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I honestly thought that Julie Fatima and Ellis were going to be in some weird threesome. I felt like that was building up in Season 1 a frickton. Then Season 2 comes and it's like all that tension that was built disappears and now Julie is kind of flirting with Elgin but not really and literally nothing happened at all in Season 2 holy frick. The bus people have done quite literally nothing since arriving.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            The bus people are literally the tail passenger from lost season 2. They even amount to jack shit the same way

  29. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    they introduced new characters that have nothing to do with the plot they built the first season

    the second season is probably the biggest drop off in tv history

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >nothing done with Sara
      >nothing done with Jim's kid
      >bus arrivals amounted to nothing
      >Kenny still totally useless
      >Donna literally appearing out of the blue to tell everyone to stop doing things
      >Jade devolved into a man obsessed with one pattern
      >Boyd's kid and that gf of his doing frick all the whole time and stuck in some wedding/pregnancy subplot

      Even when they give Boyd, Jim, Victor and Randall something to do it feels like they're doing it reluctantly .. just to get it out of the way.

      This whole show should've been one season. You can tell they're just dragging it out.

  30. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    what's Cinemaphile ordering?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll have Julie's eggs

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      God work right here

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >my blood is your blood-y mary

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn I didn't know MGM liked Julie just as much as we do!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Gimmee Julie's eggs

  31. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >add magic dream Black but he does nothing and gets less screentime than lesbian junky
    >characters learn where the monsters come from episode 1 but it's not explored until episode TEN

    There's so much stuff that's introduced and then brushed aside for worthless character drama.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love how Jade is too smart to freak out over something like the dead guy showing up. Hell the last episode felt like it had who ever was writing season 1 back at the helm (for most of it) and got the car out of the mud that s2 spent the entire time spinning it's wheels in. Wasn't perfect, but they had 9 episodes worth of fricktardery to fix.

  32. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Boyd's wife comes back from the beyond to nag at him
    >tells her to frick off and smashes the music box

    Sometimes the show's alright.

    I think the forest just wants them to go back to full monke and start smashing shit

  33. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Its the same fricking shtick they used in Lost, introduce a billion questions, answer a few with unoriginal answers.
    Fricking jj group of rats should be hanged for this.

  34. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Now that we know people can exit the area I have a feeling Elgin was there before and had his memory wiped.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Damn. They're gonna waste Tabitha's screen time next season with a memory loss plotline

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Tabitha wastes whole season trying to get back
        >finally gets back in the season finale
        >bumps into Boyd and Donna
        >"yeah, that's great, but we really need to go to the colony house. there's a meeting going on right now about the food that's going to run out at some point in the future"
        >"but I was outside!"
        >"look that's amazing but ... we gotta go..."

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Jim! I did it! I made it out!
          >...Really? That's all you have to say to me?
          >What?
          >You've been gone for 2 months! Doing god knows what... While I've been here, looking after our children.
          >No I'm trying to tell you that I found a way out
          >It's always about you isn't it? Julie got her first boyfriend you know? No, of course you didn't. And you also don't know that Ethan has started writing his own sequel to the Kromenackle.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I'm just...
            >I know.
            >No, you don't, ever since...
            >What?
            >I got to go.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >we'll talk later

  35. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Damn. Gotta wait another year

  36. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >tfw we didn't get Julie and fatima kissing scene

  37. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why did they give the lesbo a dyke haircut?

  38. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    We need Julie schizo poster in here asap

  39. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Jade was excellent this episode. This scene was hilarious.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why won't he button his shirt

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >slides down the tunnels
      >Frick my life

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >slides down the tunnels
      >Frick my life

      Well, he's smart, not skilled. Still, he had the foresight to make sure he didn't get lost by using the twine. That or he remembers his Greek myths and went all Theseus up in there.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      He gone full schizo mode

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You....you don't want to know the answer...to that..

      These are the only two characters worth shit in this show. They also seems to be the only ones with a consistent character. Are we sure this show isn't written by AI?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        look that..well...I, I gotta go

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Where does everyone gotta go?! There's literally nowhere to go and nothing to do except try to solve the mysteries and escape.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Some have to go and have sex in the Community House

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            I...uhm...lets talk later okay?

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              NOOOOO TALK TO ME NOOOWWW

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                not now, I must depart

  40. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >we probably won't get another season for years because of the SAG and Writers Guild strike
    Frick these homosexuals!

  41. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    They took the worst parts of season one and did it worse.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'll fricking kill you fricker

  42. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lack of progression in both character development and plot. Basically nothing happened all season until the very end. The characters took part in drama, but all stagnated and didn't grow or change in any meaningful way. And in some cases, characters ended up regressing like Kenny and Sara. Also it just spawned even more confusion and mysterys with even less answers and even more aggravating "I gotta go" scenes.

  43. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The people comparing this to LOST are fricking dopes.

    The mysteries in LOST developed over the course of the season, or led into a bigger more interesting mystery. The character drama in LOST was extremely high quality and connected with a huge audience. Developing the characters and their flaws and their backstories.

    From has none of this. All it has is a great premise that they blew

  44. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    So Jim is basically the main character in the first season. He's moving things along, trying to figure everything out and then is almost entirely forgotten about in S2. They treat him like a shcizo who should just be ignored, for all the paltry 20 minutes of screentime they even gave him.

  45. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No monsterfu

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      God she's so fricking beautiful, bros

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        No monsterfu

        She's a 6/10 girl next door. What's wrong with you people?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          They know that they look like typical anons themselves.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why didn't they bring her back?
      Why did they give Smiley the beginnings of a character before killing him off and then immediately deflating what should have been the impact of his death?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Smiley was hired as an extra and turned out the guy just can do that fricking thing where he smiles, I think he asked for a raise and they said no but they'd give him a few speaking lines which means he's in the actors guild and then thats it, or hopefully he'll come back in dreams or as an evil version of the father and bartender ghosts

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      God she's so fricking beautiful, bros

  46. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    get the frick outta my threads and have a nice day pedophile

  47. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What if Boyd used the torch in the colony house and Fatima turned into this son-seducing monster?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The choice of sound effects for this scene was like they are just fricking with the audience at this point.

      >o0oooooo0o0o0o

  48. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Newsflash: Most of high literature throughout history has been what you describe as soapie drama. Ever read Tolstoy?

  49. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It was slow but I enjoyed it anyway.

  50. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    It's comparable, but not the same. Every From thread is full of people saying "it's LOST all over again!"

    LOST was miles better than this

  51. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    in retrospect its baffling how bad it was
    >double the cast of useless side characters
    >plot goes in circles
    >lesbian drama
    >people who have answers refuse to give them, while everybody is fine with it
    >every plot thread that gets picked up, gets put on hold
    >less horror by the episode
    we are just 20 episodes in, and it already reached the worst levels of Lost filler episodes

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >people who have answers refuse to give them, while everybody is fine with it

      I'd understand Boyd not telling anything to anybody else in order to not make them panic but damn, Donna is just there to be the "calm down everyone" npc... iirc she was there longer than Boyd

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >lesbian drama

      This shit annoys me to no end. Why the frick are they spending so much time on the most redundant "Drama" ever. She's a fricking unlikable egotistical junkie b***h, but it's like the writers think she's a good character or something. She better fricking be killed off by the cicadas or something.

      Also why the hell are these morons incapable of closing their mouths when these small frickers are trying to get in?

      What if Boyd used the torch in the colony house and Fatima turned into this son-seducing monster?

      Nice observation. But I was honestly to distracted by her weird as frick sounds to notice anything

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        that is easily the most boring fricking story, like like nurse girl and side boob just fine but that story is painfully predicable and boring

  52. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is something very off about the writing of this show.
    The characters sort of have plausible interactions and dialogue but feel very disconnected from the context.
    I know it's a meme at this point but it's almost like it's written by AI.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >train AI to write From s2 based on s1
      >repeat for s3 by feeding it info from s2
      >AI goes "I have to go, we'll talk later" and stops working

  53. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    For the same reason season 1 sucked. Too much filler comprised entirely of useless drama. Which would be fine if these characters were in any way worth the time and effort. Even the normies I know don't give a shit about any of the characters besides WAAAAAAAALT and the child grandpa.

    A mysterybox show like this relies entirely on two things
    >the mystery being sufficiently interesting while still being unraveled at a satisfying pace
    >interesting and well written characters with compelling interactions/stories

    This show has severely skimped on the latter.

  54. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    the writers are piece of shit idiots who have zero fricking idea what's the conclusion of all this and just come up with random bullshit as they go. lot of bad tv show does this, every single one of em is gonna get cancelled due to everyone dodging it.
    they try to milk the nothing sandwitch as long as they can by filling a 40 min episode with 30 minutes of Z tier nobody actor drama that nobody gives a shit about like that degenerate from last episode who you've never seen before, ever, and you supposed to care about him, and that "wedding scene" oh god I skipped all through it;
    but in the end everyone is going to realize sooner or later what a pile of shit this really is

  55. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fatima is going to try and drown her child in season 7

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Season 7
      Thats very specific. You got a source for that intel, and don't give me any bullshit about you gotta go.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The town is like a big shogi board, the autistic kid ate all the pieces

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          more like a game of chinese checkers but ha;f the peaces are from chess

  56. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What I'm worried about is the show will get meta on itself and the "evil entity that knows everything about us" is just the writers

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I forgot what it was now but there is something that points to that in the show.

      I hate and stop watching anything with meta shit like that. >dude the author is controlling the character you're watching by writing new lines

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Donna at one point literally said "Yeah I saw the recap"

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          It was something more than that but I dont recall now

  57. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Monsters?

  58. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    In this pic he looks a lot like victor. Hey, Viktor had a sister, too. And his mommy ran away to the light house.

    Hmmmmmm.....

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They showed kid victor in the show and he doesn't look like that YA DUMMY

  59. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tabitha is 3 days into the future on a show that covers 6 days per season.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      what?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You've just been SCHIZO RAMBLED!

  60. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Julie is going to have lost so much weight by the time they get around to making season 3 because of the strike

  61. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I posted on Saturday that I started watching the show. Well, just caught up. Pretty good stuff, I was captivated, but 100% would have been frustrated watching week to week. If this was on a relevant platform folks would binge the shit out of this and it would be hype. I enjoyed it a lot!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >folks
      Hello from shill.
      Normal people do not say folks.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        you don't even need that bro, anyone who says the shows interesting, they liked the material or say shit like ''I was captivated'' is obviously a shill
        there is nothing interesting going on (with the exception of the obvious lighthouse) and anyone who says otherwise is lying

  62. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Frum would legit be a better name.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love when he says
      > Previously, on Frum

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I love when he says
      > Previously, on Frum

      True. It would also lend way more credence to the Frumbanucle plotline

  63. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I physically cringe everytime someones starts going
    >by three they come
    Or whatever the frick normies think is creepy. I just can't help but think of the cleric in the diablo 4 trailer. Speaking of which, why is modern entertainment so God awful? Are mellineals truly the worst generation in history?
    t. 29 year old.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      it was nice and creepy when it was being sung by some creepy dream, then you get bus driver singing it or fat albert and its lame af, it did not need to be spelled out like that you just don't have sound then boyd goes
      >ok so we have to stop the music box and find out who the thr...no wait I gotta go

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >the answer to the music box's mystery... had to go...

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >fat Albert
        lmao I knew there was something familiar about that fat bastard.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've never seen it I just know by osmosis what he looks like did that fat frick actually play fat albert?

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            Fat Albert transcends the concept of role. He's a quintessential black phenotype.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >fat albert

  64. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's a show that's really entertaining to binge but stupid regardless.
    Season 1 was just more novel while season 2 was more the same.
    Ideally in season 3 the characters will sort their shit out and form some type of committee that meets daily to discuss everything they know. And then the show can focus on them learning things at night. But of course, we know that won't happen and instead they're just going to arbitrarily tease crumbs of information in between new relationshit. I can't wait to see if Kenny can befriend Marielle or not!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Marielle
      who the frick is she, the junkie?

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, I think that's her name

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty sure this shit gets canned.
      If raised by wolves was canned which was a 100 times more engaging drip feeding you answers in between making up new shit, this show is complete garbage tier that just goes in circles with insanely moronic character drama padding.

      Frustrating because the premise is good and like I mentioned, Raised by wolves was the last show I could remember which ticket this box but done so in a better way, yet it was still cancelled.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >thinking that a show's quality has any correlation with whether or not it's renewed
        This has already started production on season 3 which is filming in like 2 weeks.
        I honestly don't know how moronic you have to be to think that mgm would cancel their only show that people actually watch.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Post numbers Donna

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        From what i understand, raised by wolves needs a lot more budget anon
        Costumes, set pieces both full ladscapes and interiors, cgi intensive, having Ragnar, military props...
        From is literally literal whos, dressed in normal clothes, a big normal house, a couple normal smaller houses and a forest
        Only set piece is the caverns which is non-impressive and pitch dark

  65. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >lesbian drama
    Extremely boring
    >Eglin
    Boring
    >silver bullet bile plot line
    ??? What was the point

    They had so many characters in season 1 and instead of getting rid of some they bussed in more people just out of acting school.
    The entire season was overall much worse than season 1.

  66. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Boyd always gotta go
    >Tabitha asks Jim's permission to go
    >Tabitha goes
    >Ends up in a hospital
    Is the answer so simple? You just gotta go and you are free!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >kid in white shows up
      >"sorry, but I have to do this"
      >"why?"
      >*pushes her out the window*
      We need a bingo sheet at this point.
      >I gotta go
      >I don't know
      >*slits throat*
      >*pushes out window*
      >I can't do this anymore
      >"AUUGHHHHH"

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >>*slits throat*
        oh yeah that happened too in the last ep. I forgot.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Or better yet, a Victor totem for the anons to ask questions to.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >dog shows up
        >the good father shows up
        >you shouldn't ask these questions
        >I don't remember

  67. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    except her escaping, what actually happened in s2?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      a lot of the reason for what happened was dumped if you pay attetion to the cave drawings and what jade sees, bile doesn't fricking work, the big bad showed up and then left? cause boyd smashed music box and it needed to kill those three then it would kill everyone else when they went to sleep something like that, look idk man this is well look...don't have time for this right now

  68. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    at this point its obvious that victor is the mole. he does everything the boy tells him. he sabotages and demoralizes everyone.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Donna was supossed to be the mole in a "delusional character turns out to be right" twist for randall but now that everyone is predicting this they will change it to some other character that doesnt make as much sense (from all the key og characters that were already there donna is the one we know the least about)

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        its fatima

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          She has too many alone scenes with exposition + too obvious/looks exactly like the bathub monster which is clearly the type of red herring this kind of show pulls off

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            true, we still haven't really gotten a donna pov scene, and if she is a part of it of course she would want to recover busbro, also one last thing about that, all three were inside, in "safety" it was important to get randall and get him their too the break the ward, I am getting annoyed no-one is thinking of this in the terms that it is, its fricking magic ffs

  69. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    JULIE breasts

  70. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    dont understand the bug thing. they were making a big thing of it but it only lasted basically one episode and was ended when boyd smashed up the box.
    just seemed like sloppy writing.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Supossedly sarah's brother was afraid of cicadae so his nightmares manifiested or some shit. You are right on the sloppy writing part

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Shotgun "we are all going to die" dude who shot Boyd killed someone so I wonder if they'll add a new "fear" like the cicadaswarm

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I think they would be much better off with the cicadae/ music box/ monsters/ spiders/ doll etc each being one kind of scp type creature than the nightmare stuff

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is what i thought they were going with all those random shit. But its all standard phobia stuff so maybe its some kind of fears become real situation

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      How about when they decided to try and pass on parasites to a monster without getting killed instantly and when it died, they tried dipping bullets in random corpse fluids to kill more monsters.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dipping bullets in bile was stupid anyway. A little coating will be burnt off & vapourised going down the barrel at bullet speed of any liquid.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        To be totally fair if you were trapped there for a ln undisclosed length of time and saw countless nigs go down to these things, and you finally killed one you'd probably try and replicate it as well.

        The real problem with the silver bullets is not that they didn't work but that that thread is ended with Donna and stabby having a 2 line conversation about it when they go to find Randall. So much discussion and time wasted to wrapped up with "so much for silver bullets"

  71. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    1/ Tabitha will return to the town and be convinced killing everyone is the way out, like Boyd's wife
    2/ Tabitha will turn on a tv in the "real world" and see the last episode of from
    3/ Tabitha will get no meaningful scenes in season 3 because for most of it she is "recovering"

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >4/ Tabitha will have a dumb subplot where she rants like a crazy person and everyone ignores her and then in the last episode of the season has the idea to follow the lead from the first episode of the season where someone mentioned Victor's sister

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        whole season 3 will have this form, every ep except finale:
        >Tabitha treated like schizo in the hospital
        >"Where's mom?" drama
        >Boyd,Jade and/or Victor doing something
        >Lesbian or Fatima/Elyss drama
        >Elgin being red herring
        >Donna calming down everyone for some reason

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >5/ the mom character will hear a nurse mentioning the last time someone was found on that trail and she'll spend the entire season trying to track down the other person and 30 seconds before the end of the season 3 finale we'll find out its either Victor's mom/sister or just another complete stranger who escaped
      >tune into season 4 to find out what they have to say!

  72. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What are they gonna do with the kid when his balls drop? It's only been like two weeks on the show

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      He gets the rope, of course.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are the gonna kill him, they don't have the balls.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Taller Walt

  73. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Boyd got spiderbites
    >Nothing happened regarding this
    >Only Martin/music box/cicada and larvae
    If nothing about spiders is mentioned in next seasion I'll be 100% convinced that it's AI written...

  74. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I recall a scene in one of the first s2 episodes where I saw Elgin like shaking hands with one of the smiley monsters, at night... the next scene I saw him was when Boyd meets Victor and Tabitha trying to hide in that truck... did I imagine that?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nah that was a scene with some random bus guy (black) and his random bus wife (white) shaking hands with mobs right before they got killed. People who didn't get into the cafe & ran off when Donna went all Rambo on them.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thats wasnt it was it? It was some other dudes from the bus getting eated byt he monsters (they approached them without knowing what they were) and then another scene were elgin suspiciously arrives asking for help from boys in the middle of the night and he somehow knows he is not a monster despite not having ever seen him

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        *Boyd
        This was after boyd came back from martins dungeon

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        All the monsters are [spoilers]white[/spoiler] though so it's pretty easy to tell

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >another scene were elgin suspiciously arrives asking for help from boys in the middle of the night and he somehow knows he is not a monster despite not having ever seen him
        To be fair, the monsters don't scream out and call for help like that. Sure they will use their voice to trick you sometimes, but they don't run and fall all over themselves and run out of breath and scream for help as you are looking at them. We also see the same monsters all the time and he's never seen Elgin be one of the monsters before either.

        So it's safe to say it's understandable why he didn't think he was a threat.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      lol, dumb fricks are going to fall for this not bad

  75. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    thought the storyline of those 3 frickers going into screaming coma mode would go somewhere but nope, immediately ended with boyd smashing a box that doesnt even exist.
    >why where they chosen?
    >what was the purpose of them going into a state of glazed-eyed screaming comas?
    >whats even doing it to them?
    all unanswered and will remain so im guessing

  76. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    The old man chained to the wall had wormblood he gave Boyd, do the three who were chained to the wall now have wormblood

  77. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    didnt some of the other characters start blaming boyd for bringing something back with him (other than the worms)? what did he bring back that wasnt already happening?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      They are blaming him for the sleep death phenomenon. Probably the impending winter as well.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what did he bring back that wasnt already happening?
      Fatima's heterosexuality and desire for marriage

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think it was bassically martin's music box possesion thingy

  78. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Jesus, to live life not comprehending things below the surface level. Sounds nice.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      >shiv is an antagonist
      >the show intentionally keep minorities out of the super duper rich white media family
      You really didn't get it did you

      >it's woke even though it objectively isn't because I got filtered
      Not how it work buckos

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The entire show is about how rich white people are incapable fricks who want and want and want what they think they are entitled to because of their birthright.
        I'm sure you thought it was weird it ended without any of the Roy's at the helm didn't you?
        They had an entire alrt right election subplot just to help you and morons like you understand the subtext of the entire show.
        Succession is a good show. It's also very woke.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're one of those tards who thinks just because a show lacks minorities, it's not woke. There's a reason that show could get made in the current year.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's painting a picture of what they think is wrong with society, and later on in mass media in particular. You can't say what is wrong by being inclusive or painting an unrealistically diverse and optimistic atmorphere. You're mistaking normal mixture of all sorts of people and pushing a message. Succession is very heavy handed in pushing that message. From is just dumb as shit writing but the diversity does nothing to repair or worsen the fact that the story has no point.

  79. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    ffs i hope its not time travel shit. LOST already did that.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >LOST already did that
      Which all but confirms it will happen

  80. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >shiv is an antagonist
    >the show intentionally keep minorities out of the super duper rich white media family
    You really didn't get it did you

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >shiv is an antagonist
      You didnt get it. Shiv got insane positive bias all the way through even if at times they tried to put her in a negative light like they did with her brothers/rest of the main cast. Even at those times it was light as frick in comparison and they always gave her some redemption

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Shiv got insane positive bias
        Are you mentally insane or something? What fricking show did you watch?

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I really should ask you the same question.
          >Shiv gets called out
          >Ominous music plays
          >Everyone gets completely abnutrer destroyed
          >Shiv is the only one to get a position that allows her to get into power mid term

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            You got filtered hard and didnt get what the writers were going for. They even talked about it on interviews after the frick you mongoloid

            Lmao imagine so fundamentally misunderstanding a piece of media. Go rewatch and this time don't be moronic.

            I was talking about this show, I didn't know there was another show also called Succession with a character also called Shiv that gets a positive bias. In the HBO show the character named Shiv is a literal punching bag and her abused husband is the winner of the entire thing, I'm sure whatever show you guys are talking about is good too though

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >was talking about this show, I didn't know there was another show also called Succession with a character also called Shiv that gets a positive bias.
              Ok we forgive you. You should have known we were talking about the real succesion from hbo with brian cox etc tho. Have you been living under a rock? Not watching the video btw but i believe you

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah no worries bro, I accept your concession about Succession not having gays, trannies and women painted in a positive light in 4 seasons therefore not being woke at all. You tried your best but the actual show isn't actually woke so there's nothing you could do really
                >Not watching the video
                Good for you, you got BTFO enough for one thread

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          You got filtered hard and didnt get what the writers were going for. They even talked about it on interviews after the frick you mongoloid

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            but that's just the writers' headcanon

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Lmao imagine so fundamentally misunderstanding a piece of media. Go rewatch and this time don't be moronic.

  81. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Your guys remember the food shortage subplot that went absolutely nowhere?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Person who died last ep. had a cannibalism-phobia so people will start eating each other whenever they hear bells or something and they only way to stop this is to not let anyone be hungry which will be resolve by Boyd who will have to go to somewhere and open up a mystic refrigerator full of canned food that will keep everyone full till next season.

  82. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    How often does a man lose his gf/wife then just randomly slit some none involved persons throat just so he can get a gun to fail at shooting a trained marine? Why did he not just go up to Boyd for a chat & slit his throat since he clearly has the knife skills of a trained assassin.

  83. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >People saying "it's time travel"
    >People saying "it's pocket dimension"
    None of those adresses the fact that the damn wires are connected to nothing

  84. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >dig hole
    >make first contact with radio man
    >ignore Jim and pretend it never happened

  85. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Can you imagine how insane you would go if you were trapped here with these people not even bothering to solve any mysteries - all they do is have emotional conversations about their relationships.

    Why don't Boyd and Jim and Jade team up to action plan and try to figure things out? Wasn't Boyd a marine? Jim and Jade are experienced professionals. Yet they just wander around doing nothing productive

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Can you imagine how insane you would go if you were trapped here with these people not even bothering to solve any mysteries - all they do is have emotional conversations about their relationships.
      That's Jade and I like him. If he and Boyd teamed up, series would end on s2

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >series would end on s2
        So you prefer for S2 to be a literal nothing series? I would rather they give me the meat and make it a miniseries than what they are doing. Dragging out with entire filler series

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          oh no i didn't mean it like it was a bad thing, I meant it in a way "what kind of writers who want to milk this cow would want their series to end in 2 seasons?" way

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Can you imagine how insane you would go if you were trapped here with these people not even bothering to solve any mysteries
      Jade criticized the people in Fromville about this is the first season, but now he's just the same as then after one setback

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Like a week after arriving. It's almost as if the whole show has changed from S1 to S2

  86. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    So is this going to be the last from thread?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah
      farewell, frombros

  87. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is 1+1? Hardmode, no:
    >2

  88. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >horror goes from atmospheric tension at night to le spooky dream jump scares!!!!11!!1
    for the most part they completely abandoned the creatures, the threat of nighttime disappeared in favour of "NO YOU HECKIN CAN'T SLEEP BECAUSE WORMS, NOW HERE'S A DOLL AND SOME SCREAMING"

  89. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Two things. The first thing is that the antagonists are fairies, they always have been, and the show has never done anything to hide it.

    The second point is that the show has terrible writing for very non-political and non-anything reasons except that the writers have no idea what they're doing. Entire episodes revolve around extremely contrived over-reactions and pointless antagonism. Jade spends most of his time talking nonsense and smashing up or arranging bottles, even though he's supposed to not be a moron. Sarah got fat and all her drama is pointless and goes nowhere. The dad, whatever his name is, always gets mad about everything for no reason. Victor has always been too vague, because he could have rushed progress of uncovering the mystery if he was ever clear for 10 minutes. That stuff with Victor is especially terrible writing because there is no real reason he doesn't say more or do more, trauma can only be used as an excuse so much. The show spends most of the time on contrived drama and interpersonal moments and only 5% on exposition, almost nothing on natural discovery of the place. The writers don't have anything beyond the initial basic idea, but they're abandoning that idea in favor of pretending there is an even spookier and more mysterious antagonistic force. Like even attempts to explore the caves but trying to avoid monsters would have had plenty of tension for a whole series but been more fulfilling.

    tl;dr the reason the show fails is because it never gets to the point, because there is no point, and they don't have anything after that

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Two things. The first thing is that the antagonists are fairies, they always have been, and the show has never done anything to hide it.

      Tbh true. Seems very likely to me.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The first thing is that the antagonists are fairies, they always have been, and the show has never done anything to hide it.

      Spell it out for me

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The pictures in the intro is the first indicator. Next you have the fairy pocket dimension, all classic mythology stuff, fairies existing in another dimension. Changelings, basic really. The far away tree is a direct reference to a book about fairies. The woods harboring the most evil, pretty classic. Other native American forms of fairy stuff like dream catchers, the bottles on the tree to capture spirits, and so on. All the monsters (fairies) just want to have fun, are basically immortal, and humans are on the bad end of all their fun. They can't come in if you hang something up near the entrance, and so on and so on.

  90. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is it really so hard to create a good horror/mystery show?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why is that clown/harlequin in the background walking funny?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It isn't hard to come up with a concept but it seems like after funding is secured, coming up with episodes to fill in the story arc is too much for some people. From has an interesting concept but not much more.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Also the qualities of good shows and movies aren't always the qualities that get the best ratings (i.e. what will be approved by the studio/network). From would have been excellent as a horror show and it wouldn't have required much imagination to make it the best horror show of all time. But to get the network on board I'm sure the priority was always to give it as broad an appeal as possible (hence lesbians crying and all the boring relationship drama that chicks love)

        Effectively they suckered us in with a solid horror foundation, then pivoted to mass appeal

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          >all the boring relationship drama that chicks love
          But they don't. In an attempt to appeal to a broad audience the writers and executives probably follow this same stereotyping. A show like Severance is loaded with tons of relationship and drama stuff, but it's good and drives the plot. The stuff in From is trash and tacked on to fill the void of nothing happening all season, nothing about that is appealing to any demographic except extremely hardcore fans that love anything.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You just know.

  91. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I gotta go was fun. There was too much pointless human drama
    >all scenes featuring Randall
    >all s genes featuring Elgin
    >the whole marriage plot
    >all the food shortage stuff
    Just doesn't go anywhere and doesn't make for entertaining scenes.
    We just slogged through 40 minutes of filler in the last episode until we got interesting mystery stuff right at the end.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot the lesbo subplot and the radio plot and the electricity plot

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        OP said not to mention them.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>the whole marriage plot
      I just don't get this one. The characters aren't likeable at all so why should anyone care about this? Who decided to dedicate 10 minutes of the finale to this?

      You forgot the lesbo subplot and the radio plot and the electricity plot

      At least the lesbo one has a risk attached (she is a withdrawing junkie that can frick things up). But they didn't do anything with it, and after she's "recovered" it'll be more of the same pointless romance between 2 unlikable people.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        The pregnancy is important because the child will eventually end up being a past version of fat black autist and his dream of being drowned is because Fatima was trying to kill him

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          This makes more sense than whatever the writers will come up with

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      Arranging bottles in the pattern of the symbol, smashing up bottles as an experiment, saying random stuff then chaos theory, the puppet, the kids saying weird stuff.

      Victor taking Jade and Tabitha to the car dumping area and talking about the massacre was the most interesting thing all season. All the scenes together lasted no more than 5 minutes.

  92. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd probably be offended if I was one of the other people in the town. Getting treated like mindless cattle that apparently can't be told shit about whats going on for fear that I might ape out.

  93. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    I hate fatima and mutt boy, what a bunch of useless shit.

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