No. Her trying to relate to her sister while being left behind creates a dynamic in their relationship that would be lost if she could just go super saiyan and fly or something.
Its the contrast between powered and mortals.
Then what do you suggest would make Anna a more interesting character then? Everyone clearly loves Elsa more just because she has magical powers. So wouldn't the solution be to give Anna magical powers too? Everyone complains how boring she is.
They can’t, she’s useful as an audience self-insert to fawn over elsa through pretty much now. Elsa completely stole the precedence in frozen 2 whereas in 1 Anna was definitely the main character who you root for hoping she will fix her problems. No idea what they will do for 3 because 2 was such a mess
>They can’t, she’s useful as an audience self-insert to fawn over elsa through pretty much now.
Audience self-insert? No, she's the writer's self-insert. Lee and Bell wanted Anna to be based on themselves. They think their personalities are wonderful when in fact, they're self-centered and egotistical. That also translates into Anna sharing these negative qualities as a result.
Anna doesn't have the patience or focus for anything rigorous. Really, her best role is as a teacher or babysitter as she probably wouldn't get bored of nursery rhymes.
>make Anna a more interesting character
But she's already great. Other than her rushed infatuation with Hans, she's the more stable and dependable sister.
Elsa is a flake.
>Anna doesn't have the patience or focus for anything rigorous. Really, her best role is as a teacher or babysitter as she probably wouldn't get bored of nursery rhymes.
Too bad that we hardly see her interact with children though. She seems too stuck up and concerned about her sister and boyfriend to do so. Her existence is only tied to theirs.'
>She attempted to destroy an entire village.
More like an entire kingdom. What was Lee thinking when she wrote Anna's supposedly "heroic" moment?! She thinks that all of Arendelle deserves to be destroyed just because of one man's sin?! She painted Anna as a self-centered, fanatical ecoterrorist instead!
>Anna doesn't have the patience or focus for anything rigorous.
That's too bad. This could be her chance at character development and have her flaws addressed. Her impatience and aimlessness are two of her most prominent faults and she needs to be challenged. That's how she'll stop being a selfish womanchild and learn to be a mature adult. Besides kicking her off the throne, this is one of the best ways to handle her. Put her in uncomfortable situations so she'll finally grow up.
>It takes time, which requires patience.
Well, all the more for her to learn then. That will teach her patience and force her to grow as a character. Putting her in uncomfortable situations and watching her develop would be fun.
>Give her a sword. >She must master the way of steel.
Put Knight Anna instead. She has a counterpart in Mirrorverse who is dressed as a knight. Too bad she is dressed in green though...it should have been magenta and orange.
>make Anna a more interesting character
But she's already great. Other than her rushed infatuation with Hans, she's the more stable and dependable sister.
Elsa is a flake.
>But she's already great. Other than her rushed infatuation with Hans, she's the more stable and dependable sister. >Elsa is a flake.
Oh, how is Anna "great"? She has nothing going for her. She may have been locked up in her castle but she wasn't as isolated as Rapunzel. Anna had plenty of space to herself and people to talk to. But all she could think about was fooling around and badgering her sister. At the coronation, she did not act with proper decorum as expected of a princess. She instead fooled around like a child and also threw a tantrum in front of all the party guests. Is that a "stable" and "dependable" person to you?
>Then what do you suggest would make Anna a more interesting character then?
Make the movies better. Anna has plenty of potential. The movies just keep screwing up her character by making her a whiny little child following on Elsa's coattails all the time. Hell, even just bringing up a good point occasionally rather than "Elsa needs my help, I must follow her!" would do wonders for her character.
Giving her magic and then sticking her in the exact same role won't change anything.
Giving her a distinct role doesn't require giving her magic powers from the start.
Would giving her magical powers automatically make her an interesting character?
Elsa had some emotional burden in her life, and the movie reflected that very well. Anna had that emotional burden but only in relation with her sister, and the movie didn't explain that very well.
And once that burden was resolved she didn't have a theme to keep her interesting. They could use her relationship with Kristoff or herlove for her kingdom. But Frozen 2 executed her part in the story in a terrible way.
>Anna had that emotional burden but only in relation with her sister, and the movie didn't explain that very well.
It's like Anna's only role is to be Elsa's sister, that's sad. They should have focused on her trying to fix the gaps in her altered memories and making friends with the servants as she repeatedly tries-and-fails to break out of the castle.
Frozen II didn't do any of the characters justice, to be fair. Anna arguably suffered the most. She is just there to follow Elsa and wasn't given a single destiny. Most of her screentime is just impeding Elsa's journey while blatantly ignoring Kristoff. Her "heroic" moment wasn't even heroic at all. She nearly drowned Arendelle in a reckless act of grief. It shows she is not fit to be queen at all.
>She's a Disney princess. The little girls only want her to float around being flawless.
It's funny how she's one of the least popular Disney Princesses so far. Even Aurora(the one who just sleeps for majority of her film) is more popular than Anna for some reason.
. Even Aurora(the one who just sleeps for majority of her film) is more popular than Anna for some reason
I don't know if I doubt that, Anna is on far more merch than Aurora. But I see that being the second place princess she will have her get brought up less. I don't even know the proper comparison to make. Like it's not Batman vs Robin. This is like finding the boy that likes Alfred over Batman: The moral compass outsider to all of the same goingson.
Elsa was already redundant the moment they made her a secondary heroine instead of the villainess she was originally intended to be. She stole Anna's spotlight because of that.
Even giving Anna magical powers she's still a dime-a-dozen Rapunzel knockoff. Anna can never and will never be a fraction as popular as Elsa, no matter how many promotions or parties she gets.
Of course they don't sell. She looks like a a bland copy-paste of Iduna, her mother. She is dressed in black and teal. Not the perfect fitting color scheme for her. She's also in an occupation that does not suit her at all. She is best off that throne and doing whatever she wants outside the castle.
>Anna can never and will never be a fraction as popular as Elsa, no matter how many promotions or parties she gets.
It's because she's promoted wrong. She looks like a leprechaun with the clown red hair and drab green color scheme. It's the method of how she's promoted, not entirely because they over promoted her. Blame the marketers. They should stop promoting her then and demote her to a secondary role while fixing and salvaging her character in the background.
>Even giving Anna magical powers she's still a dime-a-dozen Rapunzel knockoff.
So let me get this straight, the real reason why people don't like Anna is NOT because she has zero magical powers, but it's because she's a blatant Rapunzel copy?
The only way for Anna getting magical powers to be interesting would be if they are the inverse of the arc with Elsa. I don't mean 'give her fire magic', i mean in terms of the themes of her arc.
Imagine if Anna gets magic powers that are very dangerous, and tries to apply the same lessons and logic that the first movie did with telling Elsa that it was okay to be herself and she didn't have to run away and shit, but Anna's powers don't make that a viable solution for her. She really DOES have to isolate herself from her loved ones to protect them, and there isn't an easy way to make that stop being true.
After spending most of her life walled off from people, and having a few years where she had everything she wanted, Anna has to wall herself off from people even worse than before.
I don't even think thats a good story choice, honestly. but its the only way i can think of that would be at all interesting at this point.
>She should have autumn or summer powers that awaken later than Elsa's. It's the only way to get little girls to care about her and buy Anna merch.
That's only if they stop putting her in clown red hair and drab green clothes. Little girls care more about how a character looks rather than their personality.
i dont think thats part of the ice queen folk lore story
>i dont think thats part of the ice queen folk lore story
Gerda(the main character of The Snow Queen) is hinted to have magical powers given that she summoned an entire army to fight the Snow Queen's forces.
No. Her trying to relate to her sister while being left behind creates a dynamic in their relationship that would be lost if she could just go super saiyan and fly or something.
Its the contrast between powered and mortals.
Then what do you suggest would make Anna a more interesting character then? Everyone clearly loves Elsa more just because she has magical powers. So wouldn't the solution be to give Anna magical powers too? Everyone complains how boring she is.
They can’t, she’s useful as an audience self-insert to fawn over elsa through pretty much now. Elsa completely stole the precedence in frozen 2 whereas in 1 Anna was definitely the main character who you root for hoping she will fix her problems. No idea what they will do for 3 because 2 was such a mess
>They can’t, she’s useful as an audience self-insert to fawn over elsa through pretty much now.
Audience self-insert? No, she's the writer's self-insert. Lee and Bell wanted Anna to be based on themselves. They think their personalities are wonderful when in fact, they're self-centered and egotistical. That also translates into Anna sharing these negative qualities as a result.
Give her a sword.
She must master the way of steel.
Anna doesn't have the patience or focus for anything rigorous. Really, her best role is as a teacher or babysitter as she probably wouldn't get bored of nursery rhymes.
She attempted to destroy an entire village.
>Anna doesn't have the patience or focus for anything rigorous. Really, her best role is as a teacher or babysitter as she probably wouldn't get bored of nursery rhymes.
Too bad that we hardly see her interact with children though. She seems too stuck up and concerned about her sister and boyfriend to do so. Her existence is only tied to theirs.'
>She attempted to destroy an entire village.
More like an entire kingdom. What was Lee thinking when she wrote Anna's supposedly "heroic" moment?! She thinks that all of Arendelle deserves to be destroyed just because of one man's sin?! She painted Anna as a self-centered, fanatical ecoterrorist instead!
>Anna doesn't have the patience or focus for anything rigorous.
That's too bad. This could be her chance at character development and have her flaws addressed. Her impatience and aimlessness are two of her most prominent faults and she needs to be challenged. That's how she'll stop being a selfish womanchild and learn to be a mature adult. Besides kicking her off the throne, this is one of the best ways to handle her. Put her in uncomfortable situations so she'll finally grow up.
Good thing sword training has nothing to do with patience or focus
It takes time, which requires patience.
>It takes time, which requires patience.
Well, all the more for her to learn then. That will teach her patience and force her to grow as a character. Putting her in uncomfortable situations and watching her develop would be fun.
>Give her a sword.
>She must master the way of steel.
Put Knight Anna instead. She has a counterpart in Mirrorverse who is dressed as a knight. Too bad she is dressed in green though...it should have been magenta and orange.
>make Anna a more interesting character
But she's already great. Other than her rushed infatuation with Hans, she's the more stable and dependable sister.
Elsa is a flake.
>But she's already great. Other than her rushed infatuation with Hans, she's the more stable and dependable sister.
>Elsa is a flake.
Oh, how is Anna "great"? She has nothing going for her. She may have been locked up in her castle but she wasn't as isolated as Rapunzel. Anna had plenty of space to herself and people to talk to. But all she could think about was fooling around and badgering her sister. At the coronation, she did not act with proper decorum as expected of a princess. She instead fooled around like a child and also threw a tantrum in front of all the party guests. Is that a "stable" and "dependable" person to you?
>Then what do you suggest would make Anna a more interesting character then?
Make the movies better. Anna has plenty of potential. The movies just keep screwing up her character by making her a whiny little child following on Elsa's coattails all the time. Hell, even just bringing up a good point occasionally rather than "Elsa needs my help, I must follow her!" would do wonders for her character.
Giving her magic and then sticking her in the exact same role won't change anything.
Giving her a distinct role doesn't require giving her magic powers from the start.
This.
Elsa had some emotional burden in her life, and the movie reflected that very well. Anna had that emotional burden but only in relation with her sister, and the movie didn't explain that very well.
And once that burden was resolved she didn't have a theme to keep her interesting. They could use her relationship with Kristoff or herlove for her kingdom. But Frozen 2 executed her part in the story in a terrible way.
>Anna had that emotional burden but only in relation with her sister, and the movie didn't explain that very well.
It's like Anna's only role is to be Elsa's sister, that's sad. They should have focused on her trying to fix the gaps in her altered memories and making friends with the servants as she repeatedly tries-and-fails to break out of the castle.
Frozen II didn't do any of the characters justice, to be fair. Anna arguably suffered the most. She is just there to follow Elsa and wasn't given a single destiny. Most of her screentime is just impeding Elsa's journey while blatantly ignoring Kristoff. Her "heroic" moment wasn't even heroic at all. She nearly drowned Arendelle in a reckless act of grief. It shows she is not fit to be queen at all.
She has the power to turn my pp into the big pp
SHE'S PURE
Her hole is an open door.
She will have been svenned or kristoffed by frozen 3. Maybe she will get a pixar mom body though
She's a Disney princess. The little girls only want her to float around being flawless.
>She's a Disney princess. The little girls only want her to float around being flawless.
It's funny how she's one of the least popular Disney Princesses so far. Even Aurora(the one who just sleeps for majority of her film) is more popular than Anna for some reason.
. Even Aurora(the one who just sleeps for majority of her film) is more popular than Anna for some reason
I don't know if I doubt that, Anna is on far more merch than Aurora. But I see that being the second place princess she will have her get brought up less. I don't even know the proper comparison to make. Like it's not Batman vs Robin. This is like finding the boy that likes Alfred over Batman: The moral compass outsider to all of the same goingson.
It would make Elsa redundant
>It would make Elsa redundant
Elsa was already redundant the moment they made her a secondary heroine instead of the villainess she was originally intended to be. She stole Anna's spotlight because of that.
give her a sword and shining knight armour
>give her a sword and shining knight armour
Disney should have taken Mirrorverse's advice:
https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/disney_mirrorverse/images/a/ae/Anna.png/revision/latest?cb=20220708113810
Even giving Anna magical powers she's still a dime-a-dozen Rapunzel knockoff. Anna can never and will never be a fraction as popular as Elsa, no matter how many promotions or parties she gets.
>Anna can never and will never be a fraction as popular as Elsa, no matter how many promotions or parties she gets.
Who is this? Anonnymiss? ShocKimmy? KimmyP?
AnonnyMiss. Queen Anna dolls don't sell.
>AnonnyMiss. Queen Anna dolls don't sell.
Of course they don't sell. She looks like a a bland copy-paste of Iduna, her mother. She is dressed in black and teal. Not the perfect fitting color scheme for her. She's also in an occupation that does not suit her at all. She is best off that throne and doing whatever she wants outside the castle.
>she's still a dime-a-dozen Rapunzel knockoff.
In what way? Personality? Appearance?
>Anna can never and will never be a fraction as popular as Elsa, no matter how many promotions or parties she gets.
It's because she's promoted wrong. She looks like a leprechaun with the clown red hair and drab green color scheme. It's the method of how she's promoted, not entirely because they over promoted her. Blame the marketers. They should stop promoting her then and demote her to a secondary role while fixing and salvaging her character in the background.
>Even giving Anna magical powers she's still a dime-a-dozen Rapunzel knockoff.
So let me get this straight, the real reason why people don't like Anna is NOT because she has zero magical powers, but it's because she's a blatant Rapunzel copy?
ai slopped this for she
>ai slopped this for she
Anna looks ugly in this AI-generated image. I refuse to call it art because it's made by a generator than by hand.
The only way for Anna getting magical powers to be interesting would be if they are the inverse of the arc with Elsa. I don't mean 'give her fire magic', i mean in terms of the themes of her arc.
Imagine if Anna gets magic powers that are very dangerous, and tries to apply the same lessons and logic that the first movie did with telling Elsa that it was okay to be herself and she didn't have to run away and shit, but Anna's powers don't make that a viable solution for her. She really DOES have to isolate herself from her loved ones to protect them, and there isn't an easy way to make that stop being true.
After spending most of her life walled off from people, and having a few years where she had everything she wanted, Anna has to wall herself off from people even worse than before.
I don't even think thats a good story choice, honestly. but its the only way i can think of that would be at all interesting at this point.
She should have autumn or summer powers that awaken later than Elsa's. It's the only way to get little girls to care about her and buy Anna merch.
>She should have autumn or summer powers that awaken later than Elsa's. It's the only way to get little girls to care about her and buy Anna merch.
That's only if they stop putting her in clown red hair and drab green clothes. Little girls care more about how a character looks rather than their personality.
Probably not. I don't know just make her the villain in frozen 3 or something.
>Probably not. I don't know just make her the villain in frozen 3 or something.
Are you serious? Anna the intended heroine of the franchise as the villain when Elsa was originally intended to be one? You have to be joking.
give the fans what they want
Get that AI shit outta here