>man sad >get new friends yay, join guild or whatever >bestest of friend with their gay leader >betray us because hes a selfish prick >I AM... LE BERSERK kill demons because edgy and sad again >repeat till gay author dies >oh also i was molested aa a kid by a Black person
>NOOOOOOOO BRACKU MANNUUU PREEAASEE DONT RAPE MY BUTTHOLEEE NOO NOT MY BUTTHELIT AIIIIEEEEEE
Guts? more like Got his guts scrambled by Black person wiener
Guts didn't make himself into anything he got chewed up by circumstance and adapted to the harshness of his world. being a demon means losing your humanity and free will, only serving evil and causality. he rejects the "power" of demons because they are ultimately just pawns.
a lot of it just came down to him being a 6'5 physical specimen. I guess later on he has the magic armor and his sword might be cursed but he was killing demons just by having good conditioning and a wide arsenal of weapons.
>fights monsters faster stronger better than him >has to use ingenuity and guile to defeat them >gets berserk armor >all fights turn into bullshit moronation
at least it was magic that worked how it does in what came before it, you don't get magic power without sacrifice, and the berserker armor sacrifices his health, permanently, eventually rendering him uncoordinated, weaker, and going blind without it. e-girlwitch ends up making the monster battles a lot more trivial.
>torches boss' lair to destroy adds and keep her from using CC abilities >douses himself in blood and entrails to keep from being burned >lets his arm get skewered so he can blast her with his cannon arm >uses child as bait to get another whack at her >lets his face get skewered so both arms are free to whack her even harder
I love Lost Children in general. It's a beautiful sad grim fairytale and I can't understand people disliking it for being "filler" when the story meanders so badly after Conviction anyway.
It captured his suicidal charge for control over his life very well. At this point he's mentally gone, but he's still human enough to be worn down. It ends up more compelling as his insanity takes on a self-flagellent aspect due to his guilt at being useless during the eclipse.
>>lets his face get skewered so both arms are free to whack her even harder
shattered israeliteel attack, in effect guts is a kamikaze/samurai that does not die, though he can die.
Any stakes in combat are completely gone after Guts gets the berk armour. He just activates that sucker and he's faster, stronger and better than any apostle, including the best of the best like Zodd & Grunbeld.
>but he might kill his friends!
don't care about the jrpg party and it'll never happen anyway
>but his vision may go bad!
Oh no, not Guts's long term health...
>Got raped by a fat black guy as a child >Had to watch his GF be raped by his former best friend and now has to maintain her because she's been reduced to being a literal moron
Why do people look up to this guy so much?
Because all the shit happened to him and he still marches on. Meanwhile a weak homosexual like you would either kys or become an even more bitter hateful creature
>why do people look up to a man who went through hell and kept going?
I need you to understand, If you're not kidding you're fundamentally misunderstanding an important part of humanity. The ability to fricking move forward.
berserk is fricking gay. so tired of people sucking its dick so much just because its vaguely philosophical at parts and tricks 17 year olds into thinking its le deep when it reality it really isnt at all
If you read deeply enough into anything you can find something, but it's mostly you noticing schizo patterns that your brain projected onto the thing itself.
The art is good but the story is just Devilman mixed with Shojo manga tropes. Griffith is a mentally ill closet case who cavorts with demons and Guts swings his big sword. End of story. Stay for the art.
There's a very famous video essay on Berserk, which has stimulated a lot of these conversations. But the uploader also has videos on Marxist analyses of Shrek and postmodern interpretations of American Psycho.
Now I like Shrek, I think it's great, but I don't think it's a meditation on class conflict in industrial society.
Anything you see in Shrek that is Marxist is just coincidental. It might be valuable to you in producing a philosophical illustration, but it's obviously not intrinsic to the work itself.
This begs the question, what is the difference between a theme that's intrinsic and one that's an extrinsic projection? I think an intrinsic theme must come up in most if not all scenes. It has to be embedded into the fiber of the work. Take Metamorphosis, for example. Every paragraph and passage describes Gregor Samsa's alienation, its physical manifestation, and the effects it has on him and his family. You could just about pick any paragraph out and find alienation represented in it. But Shrek doing a shit and then turning his earwax into a candle has nothing to do with Marxism, which makes Marxist themes an extrinsic projection onto Shrek.
I read a lot of Berserk, but not all of it, and to be honest, there's a lot that has absolutely nothing to do with Nietzsche, free will, determinism, or whatever. Lots of scenes are just violent and sexual for the sake of it. Christian symbology is used stylistically, not to make an actual point about anything.
Daily reminder that Miura has a comic panel you can look up defending e-girlcon and started work on a manga a couple years before his death featuring the child MCs in compromising positions. Certified mangaka? Certified pedophile
It supposed to show that Griffith is not, in fact, a 5d chess master 200 IQ bright lord of goodness, he's a vile psychopath who will suck old men for money if it means he will gain even a little bit of political power
-healed by fairy juice
-saved by skull knight a bagillion times
-enhanced by witch, puck and armor
-get special sword perk that can kill apostles for some reason
-can call moron rage power that might be a demon that truly exists
>get special sword perk that can kill apostles for some reason
apostles aren't immortal they're just difficult to kill, there was nothing special about Guts' sword other than its size, it only became special after killing so many apostles. >can call moron rage power that might be a demon that truly exists
he can't call on it and it's not a superpower, he's just going crazy. if he fully submitted to it he would probably never come out of the armor and die inside of it like Skull Knight did.
>man sad
>get new friends yay, join guild or whatever
>bestest of friend with their gay leader
>betray us because hes a selfish prick
>I AM... LE BERSERK kill demons because edgy and sad again
>repeat till gay author dies
>oh also i was molested aa a kid by a Black person
>this is somehow the magnum opus of all manga
You morons need to consume less asianslop
Yeah I mean there's not even any LGBTQIA+ BIPOC, like what's up with that?
Guts has gay sex with a black man.
Reminder that Griffith gave Gennon the girlfriend treatment.
>WOT IF MARY SUE WAS A VILLAIN
>there's not even any LGBTQIA+ BIPOC
but there is
Tell me your favorite work, and I'm sure it can be reduced down in the same way
Do naruto
Idiot
mfw even weeb capeshit goes over your head
what's worse to you weeb capeshit or capeshit
> im real human right down to the marrow of my bones
> dont lump me in with you homosexual ass monsters
you're just irritated they stopped the anime at the end of golden age
but stopping there was the right thing to do
no one should be irritated that they stopped the anime when it should have ended
ending it on the eclipse is probably what got so many people into Berserk in the first place, at least outside nippon
>NOOOOOOOO BRACKU MANNUUU PREEAASEE DONT RAPE MY BUTTHOLEEE NOO NOT MY BUTTHELIT AIIIIEEEEEE
Guts? more like Got his guts scrambled by Black person wiener
Reminder that Berserk is about the endless battle between randomness and determinism, Guts and Griffith are allegorically those two forces
not randomness, free will
Berserk is about showing t&a to teenagers, along with pointless violence and rape scenes.
That's the point, i think.
Guts transforms himself into a monster of man so that he can vanquish monsters. He becomes as capable and scary as them. The lines blur.
Guts didn't make himself into anything he got chewed up by circumstance and adapted to the harshness of his world. being a demon means losing your humanity and free will, only serving evil and causality. he rejects the "power" of demons because they are ultimately just pawns.
I am referencing all the anime bullshit Guts is capable of pulling, which i think is what OP is ribbing about.
a lot of it just came down to him being a 6'5 physical specimen. I guess later on he has the magic armor and his sword might be cursed but he was killing demons just by having good conditioning and a wide arsenal of weapons.
this, just not being a manlet is his superpower
100 airchops with your sword every day and you're good
>fights monsters faster stronger better than him
>has to use ingenuity and guile to defeat them
>gets berserk armor
>all fights turn into bullshit moronation
Berserk turned into shit even before Miura died.
at least it was magic that worked how it does in what came before it, you don't get magic power without sacrifice, and the berserker armor sacrifices his health, permanently, eventually rendering him uncoordinated, weaker, and going blind without it. e-girlwitch ends up making the monster battles a lot more trivial.
>Just use your brain to fight a giant sea monster
>Griffith sacrifices his friends to get power
>Guts sacrifices his own flesh and blood to save his friends
kino
sacrifices his friends to get power
>>Guts sacrifices his own flesh and blood to save his friends
this is the entirety of berserk
>>has to use ingenuity and guile to defeat them
He never had to, he just got angrier and magically won after getting his shit pushed in initially.
>torches boss' lair to destroy adds and keep her from using CC abilities
>douses himself in blood and entrails to keep from being burned
>lets his arm get skewered so he can blast her with his cannon arm
>uses child as bait to get another whack at her
>lets his face get skewered so both arms are free to whack her even harder
And that's why Lost Children was the best arc.
I love Lost Children in general. It's a beautiful sad grim fairytale and I can't understand people disliking it for being "filler" when the story meanders so badly after Conviction anyway.
>when the story meanders so badly after Conviction anyway.
The Ganishka arc is peak Berserk. There's like dozen kino moments in that arc alone.
It captured his suicidal charge for control over his life very well. At this point he's mentally gone, but he's still human enough to be worn down. It ends up more compelling as his insanity takes on a self-flagellent aspect due to his guilt at being useless during the eclipse.
>>lets his face get skewered so both arms are free to whack her even harder
shattered israeliteel attack, in effect guts is a kamikaze/samurai that does not die, though he can die.
It's not like he is not paying for it
i don't even know what's supposed to be happening in that panel
if they ever do animate the entirety of berserk those are gonna be challenging
What's happening is BERSERKER, DO YOU LIKE MAKING FRICK WITH BERSERKER
Any stakes in combat are completely gone after Guts gets the berk armour. He just activates that sucker and he's faster, stronger and better than any apostle, including the best of the best like Zodd & Grunbeld.
>but he might kill his friends!
don't care about the jrpg party and it'll never happen anyway
>but his vision may go bad!
Oh no, not Guts's long term health...
>Got raped by a fat black guy as a child
>Had to watch his GF be raped by his former best friend and now has to maintain her because she's been reduced to being a literal moron
Why do people look up to this guy so much?
Because all the shit happened to him and he still marches on. Meanwhile a weak homosexual like you would either kys or become an even more bitter hateful creature
>why do people look up to a man who went through hell and kept going?
I need you to understand, If you're not kidding you're fundamentally misunderstanding an important part of humanity. The ability to fricking move forward.
He is the dad that stuck around to raise his keed, unlike dat crakah griffith
luv me Band of the Falcon
luv me Falconia
luv me Griffith
'ate Guts
'ate Casca
'ate Skully
simple as
>I need this manga series to be edgy
>I know, the main character is raped as a child
berserk is fricking gay. so tired of people sucking its dick so much just because its vaguely philosophical at parts and tricks 17 year olds into thinking its le deep when it reality it really isnt at all
the art alone is enough to justify the praise
I'm 33 years old and there is a lot of deepness if you look deep enough into it
If you read deeply enough into anything you can find something, but it's mostly you noticing schizo patterns that your brain projected onto the thing itself.
Thanks man. NTA but I feel seen an hear'd an sheit
I hear you baby.
The art is good but the story is just Devilman mixed with Shojo manga tropes. Griffith is a mentally ill closet case who cavorts with demons and Guts swings his big sword. End of story. Stay for the art.
The art is kino thoughbeit.
There's a very famous video essay on Berserk, which has stimulated a lot of these conversations. But the uploader also has videos on Marxist analyses of Shrek and postmodern interpretations of American Psycho.
Now I like Shrek, I think it's great, but I don't think it's a meditation on class conflict in industrial society.
Anything you see in Shrek that is Marxist is just coincidental. It might be valuable to you in producing a philosophical illustration, but it's obviously not intrinsic to the work itself.
This begs the question, what is the difference between a theme that's intrinsic and one that's an extrinsic projection? I think an intrinsic theme must come up in most if not all scenes. It has to be embedded into the fiber of the work. Take Metamorphosis, for example. Every paragraph and passage describes Gregor Samsa's alienation, its physical manifestation, and the effects it has on him and his family. You could just about pick any paragraph out and find alienation represented in it. But Shrek doing a shit and then turning his earwax into a candle has nothing to do with Marxism, which makes Marxist themes an extrinsic projection onto Shrek.
I read a lot of Berserk, but not all of it, and to be honest, there's a lot that has absolutely nothing to do with Nietzsche, free will, determinism, or whatever. Lots of scenes are just violent and sexual for the sake of it. Christian symbology is used stylistically, not to make an actual point about anything.
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i always imagine moronic people have this playing in their heads at all times and they sort of run around like wild animals
beautiful music
Daily reminder that Miura has a comic panel you can look up defending e-girlcon and started work on a manga a couple years before his death featuring the child MCs in compromising positions. Certified mangaka? Certified pedophile
And...? So what i aint the fricking cops why should i care about that.
*washing fat old man cum off himself*
>he he he all according to kaikaku I am such a super genius 5d chess master
It supposed to show that Griffith is not, in fact, a 5d chess master 200 IQ bright lord of goodness, he's a vile psychopath who will suck old men for money if it means he will gain even a little bit of political power
Miura couldn't draw Griffith getting plundered by Gennon because Griffith enjoyed it.
i wish more manga did this
nudity for its own sake
frick what censors say
that includes jannies
let's not forget all the asspulls
>MUH struggler
-healed by fairy juice
-saved by skull knight a bagillion times
-enhanced by witch, puck and armor
-get special sword perk that can kill apostles for some reason
-can call moron rage power that might be a demon that truly exists
>get special sword perk that can kill apostles for some reason
apostles aren't immortal they're just difficult to kill, there was nothing special about Guts' sword other than its size, it only became special after killing so many apostles.
>can call moron rage power that might be a demon that truly exists
he can't call on it and it's not a superpower, he's just going crazy. if he fully submitted to it he would probably never come out of the armor and die inside of it like Skull Knight did.
>uses massive, oversized swords since like 10 years old
>"wtf why is this guy so ridiculously buff and good with oversized swords??"
Is that how you think life works?
>work to get good at thing at young age
>get very good at it when you're older
Yeah that's how that works
why didn't he become good at fighting off rapists instead?
Because he was still a child, moron
maybe he just wasn't raped enough?
He killed his rapist at age 7.
redditzerk cuckgarbage
died unfinished to cuck the readers too KEK
Funnily enough, both HNKs are better at what Berserk is trying to do and have better payoff, both are finished, too.
>3d slop
Nothing will top cell drawn animation
>anime
Who cares
I'm clearly talking about the manga.
If half of current Berserk posters even read volume 1 I'd be shocked
>thinking Houseki no Kuni is popular enough to warrant acronym
The arrogance of these people
It is thoughever.
How do you even defeat him?
I wouldn't defeat him. I'll just listen to what he had to say. And that's what no one did.
gay sex
Femto has a switch in his bussy that makes him not evil anymore. Guts just has to activate it.
>Is being set up to eventually be defeated by an angry medieval man with a big sword
My HERO can easily defeat gayith.
I wouldn't even be mad if Casca was the one to kill Griffith
The only thing Casca is gonna do is jump on Griffith's wiener again. Never trust foids.
Reddit: the animation
Berserk is a Shoujo love triangle manga but with edgy rape and violence.
It's for girls.