I wonder if those impact frames are for the movie or the commercial.
The way those are used so quickly is very unlike Tomino. He must've given the animators more free range.
What was the deal with Flaminia being revealed to be a midget at the end of the show? I get that she's like Lu Gau, and likewise uses a body suit to hide the deformities, but what did Tomino mean? I don't get how it fits thematically with the rest of the finale, what the actual point of the scene was. And why a midget?
The idea is that living in space causes all kinds of health problems and deformities becasue humans were not made for it; they evolved to live on Earth, so we should take care of it instead of going "lel who cares about pollution, we'lll just go to space". Tomino has always been into ecologism.
To explain why Flaminia betrayed them, basically. Showing her as a midget is basically the whole "show don't tell" deal. Midget = from Venus Globe = part of G-IT Lab wanting to return to Earth.
They're 5 movies, so they have a lot of wiggle room, but so far it's been paced pretty well. The only weird thing for me personally is that they sort of brush over Raraiya's arc, so she kind of gets past her brain damage a bit out of nowhere.
It's 26 episodes divided into 5 movies, so runtime-wise it actually doesn't cut out much unlike other Gundam compilation movies that try to squeeze 50 episodes into just two or three movies. Each movie so far as been 90 to 105 minutes, so each one could cover 4 to 5 TV episodes fairly easily with minimal cutting. That said, the pacing is slightly faster than the TV series so it's not just a straightforward adaptation of TV to movie format, and from interviews and other sources it's been mentioned that there's going to be quite a bit of new footage and story content for the remaining two movies that are yet to be released but should be out by later this year.
They seem to be hyping up this scene, maybe it'll be something really good. I remember seeing a lot of teasers for the scene in the 3rd movie where Bellri runs in the forest and cries about Aida being his sister, and that turned out to be the best scene in the movie.
They're releasing movie five the following month after this one right? Any news on BD releases for either? They're releasing so close to each other I hope they do some kind of paired set.
The writing only really started to take a hit around where movie 4 picks up. The most notable difference though is in the 3rd movie where there's an added scene that shows Bellri coming to terms with Aida being his sister. The way Bellri seemed to barely react to that information in the show, and then randomly sperg out on occasion, was a major flaw. The fact that they fixed it gives me faith that the story will be significantly better in these movies.
What the frick is movie 5 even going to be if they're covering all of Venus Globe and the opening of the final battle in movie 4? Is it just going to be literally 1 hour 30 minutes of nonstop fighting with Tomino letting the animators go insane?
Im expecting a substantially extended epilogue sequence Turn A-style. The one in the show was so rushed it hardly felt like a finale, you barely got a sense of where the world and the characters stood after the war ends outside of Bellri and Aida. It goes by so fast it doesn't get you feeling anything like the Turn A epilogue did.
They don't need to. Anyone who's seen the first four movies is going to see the fifth, anyone who hasn't isn't going to start there. The first four movies are the fifths marketing.
Dunno but considering that people are still clamoring for MG G-Self after it won that poll convinces otherwise.
Plus knowing Gunpla, people don't care if a series they hate or not as long as they love the suits. That's the beauty of Gunpla, you can love a design even if you don't really care for its show.
Gunpla otaku hated how cheap and badly made the G-Reco kits were. They don't give a shit about the shows no matter how much Build Fighters makes you think they're all Gundam autists. They're plastic kits first and foremost, just like how a lot of the Gundam EXVS playerbase doesn't give a shit about Gundam as a show but love the games.
Tiurn-A MG is one of the most beloved kits around and that's still a cult classic at best show in the franchise even if more people appreciate now than a decade ago.
This scene was great but I hope we get more background on Kia Mbeki in the 4th movie. When he was introduced he just seemed like a throwaway grunt pilot but once he died then it was all about how he was this great hero of the Reconguista plan and everyone secretly admired him, etc.
It bothers me how Klim and Mick Jack survived the conflict unscathed. They were just as bloodthirsty and eager to use UC weapons to wage war as any other villain, never reached any sort of empathy with anyone or realized the true gravity of warfare by losing someone close to them, they continued to treat war as a game and their technology as toys to the very end, always contributing to scalate the conflict, yet never got punished in any way.
I really expected them to die in the finale, instead Klim is implied to replace his father as Ameria's ruler (or whatever crushing him with the ship was supposed to mean) and we are suppose to see it as a good thing? Is it because they are the young?
Klim is kind of a tool but he also doesn't appreciate the fact that he and the space fleet were sent out as a distraction while the Amerian earth fleet was secretly moving to capture the Capital Tower. He was mostly being led around by his dad, although he is bloodthirsty
While Klim does enjoy a good fight and is pretty eager to wage war, he mostly does so within the confines of his position. He's similar to the surviving G-IT members in that sense, in that he isn't someone who moves or leads the ideological side of a conflict, but instead follows. I don't believe there's any implication that he'll replace his father as leader of Ameria either.
Cumpa Rusita mentions Towasanga has a history of more than 2000 years extending back to the Universal Century, implying UC ended only less than 2000 years ago at the time of G-Reco. So how could it take place after Turn-A like Tomino stated?
UC is a catch all. Even in Turn A during the Black History broadcast they just call it Universal Century even though there are videos playing of Leos and the mass colony drop of After War.
Yes, unlike any other time in the past Sunrise/Bandai has actually started a promotional rollout to build up to SEED's return.
The 1/1 freedom, the ReIgnited branding, and Eclipse manga seem like a part of that.
>Bellri: Look, I'm just saying it won't be for at least a few generations before incest babies start developing anything resembling birth defects. >Everyone else: ....
Praise Tomino all you want, it's undeniable he's senile for thinking any child could enjoy or understand this show. He aims for a demographic and misses spectacularly. Speaking as someone who likes G-Reco, Tomino has utterly failed at reaching the younger generation that he so desperately wants to pass down his message to. Instead, the only ones appreaciating his animations are adults already obsessed with Gundam and anime. In that sense, Reconguista in G is a failure, so far up it's own ass it's incapable of speaking to the youth. G-Reco has worthwhile, even important things to say to children, but they are all lost in the sea of eccentricities. That obtuse and off-beat nature may be precisely part of the appeal for older audiences, but what's the point if no child could ever get anything out of it? It's not about dumbing it down, a more skilled, less out of touch writer could weave a narrative that tackles these ideas and succeed at positively impacting a generation. Tomino's later work only being loved and understood by reclusive otakus and people in the anime industry is, in a way, a hell of his own creation.
>Tomino has utterly failed at reaching the younger generation that he so desperately wants to pass down his message to. Instead, the only ones appreaciating his animations are adults already obsessed with Gundam and anime.
Unfortunately yeah I'd have to agree there.
I've been saying for a while that the one thing G-Reco lacked was a strong emotional core and rooting in Bellri's perspective.
The show doesn't really treat him like the main character past episode 6 or 10 and I think this is what looses most people.
Audiences wanna relate to the MC and follow their journey internally and externally.
G-Reco doesn't do that, the perspective is more divorced from Bellri and the viewer isn't given much to latch onto.
By the end of episode 1 you don't even really have a well rounded image of him, you just know he's genki, smart, and is good at piloting robots.
But we learn that from the outside, we don't get any monologues or inner thoughts telling us how HE sees the world and who he is.
This is very important emotional framing in storytelling that is completely absent. Just comparing it to a similar story like Eureka Seven and you notice how different they feel.
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E7 has an MC that joins a paramilitary group after a cute girl crashes into his life in a special robot.
But that show tells 90% of the story through the MC's perspective whether it's with framing, narrations, monologues, focusing on his emotions, or occlusion of info he doesn't have.
it also spends a LOT of time in the 1st episode just characterizing Renton and giving us a thorough understanding of his character and projecting where he'll have to grow.
We know he likes lifting, the dynamics of his relationship with his grandpa, his dad's a war hero, he has a sister, he's not doing the best in school, he really likes Eureka, he loves machines and is seen as a weirdo for it, he's a decent mechanic, he wants to pilot an LFO, he gets teased at school, he hates the town and wants to escape, he's got guts and can be rash, and that he's stubborn
But it's not just the fact that we're given that info, but also how it's delivered.
G-Reco gives us only a fraction of this information on Bellri in the first episode and on top of that the way it's done doesn't put the viewer completely in his perspective, we get the external, but not the internal.
If G-Reco had had the ideas of Tomino, but the direction sense of a more contemporary director like Kyouda, Taniguchi, Fukuda, or pretty much anyone who's directed a popular anime in the 00s I think it would've been much better received.
And we have an example of this working out phenomenally with Hathaway's Flash.
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E7 has an MC that joins a paramilitary group after a cute girl crashes into his life in a special robot.
But that show tells 90% of the story through the MC's perspective whether it's with framing, narrations, monologues, focusing on his emotions, or occlusion of info he doesn't have.
it also spends a LOT of time in the 1st episode just characterizing Renton and giving us a thorough understanding of his character and projecting where he'll have to grow.
We know he likes lifting, the dynamics of his relationship with his grandpa, his dad's a war hero, he has a sister, he's not doing the best in school, he really likes Eureka, he loves machines and is seen as a weirdo for it, he's a decent mechanic, he wants to pilot an LFO, he gets teased at school, he hates the town and wants to escape, he's got guts and can be rash, and that he's stubborn
But it's not just the fact that we're given that info, but also how it's delivered.
G-Reco gives us only a fraction of this information on Bellri in the first episode and on top of that the way it's done doesn't put the viewer completely in his perspective, we get the external, but not the internal.
If G-Reco had had the ideas of Tomino, but the direction sense of a more contemporary director like Kyouda, Taniguchi, Fukuda, or pretty much anyone who's directed a popular anime in the 00s I think it would've been much better received.
And we have an example of this working out phenomenally with Hathaway's Flash.
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Tomino anime has always had this problem with no emotional core and no characters to latch on to. Only MSG and Turn A had compelling characters and storytelling. Zeta was on to something with Kamille and Char but gets lost in the sea of harem antics and new girls appearing every 5 episodes and getting written off or dying in some hilarious way. In his other shows like Ideon and Dunbine characters barely have any time to breathe or develop in any interesting way beyond barebones character arcs, and then stuff like ZZ is just a total failure.
L-Gaim does it as well.
I think King Gainer too, though its been a while since I've seen it, but I do remember the series giving a lot of attention to Gainer's internal perspective and his relationships with Cynthia and Sarah
The emotional core in Tomino's shows tend to come from the environment and the world the characters live in. It's a trite phrase, but the setting is often a character itself.
That being said, I think Brain Powerd has the most endearing cast in Tomino's anime. The acting is theatrical and the dialogue is loaded with confusing terminology, but their humanity still shines through.
There's definitely a way to convey that without completely missing the target audience though.
Regardless what you think of it Attack on Titan covers similar ideas about people manipulating information and historical narratives to serve their own goals and has managed to get those ideas across to a much broader audience much more successfully than G-Reco did.
If the point is really to convey a message to as many people as possible then you'd have to make something that would be popular
You completely missed the point of that post if this is how you chose to respond to it.
I never said AoT is good, there's a reason "regardless what you think of it" was typed because I'm not talking about the quality of the series, simply the fact that it's popular and is able to spread the author's message more effectively because of that.
Your reactionary dismissal of it seemingly just based on seeing the title "Attack on Titan" is extremely childish and betrays any intelligence you attempt to exude.
>manipulating information
Uhhh you speak about this but you didn't pick up that the G-Reco itself being meta about this by also manipulating information shown to the viewers? Sounds like a you problem, bro. xD >If the point is really to convey a message to as many people as possible then you'd have to make something that would be popular
I think G-Reco has done it's job of making people ask questions.
The post literally says "similar ideas" indicating that obviously G-Reco covers the same thing.
Reading comprehension. >I think G-Reco has done it's job of making people ask questions.
The point being discussed was never if G-Reco was capable of doing that, no one is questioning that. It was about how effectively it was able to reach its intended audience with those ideas. As stated in the post at the beginning of this reply chain.
The fact that the only places you even see the show being discussed in any depth are in the corners of mecha forums like /m/, Gundam fan communities, or among Tomino fans shows that it did not have the impact it was meant to have.
Attack on Titan was about an ancient alien prophecy worm and shipping you fricking moron. Everything else was literally fanfiction created by autists trying to justify watching or reading a badly written battle shonen because they wanted Hitler to win.
Yeah I don't think it's good either, regardless it still can't be denied it got thousands of its viewers thinking and talking about those ideas though.
And then the author humiliated all of them by turning the final arc into a blatant Marvel's Avengers rip-off and disregarding whatever thematic message it was trying to say. G-reco will be remembered as THE Tomino anime for years to come, and aot will be remembered as a joke. So comparing the two as if G-reco can learn something from aot's execution is just context denial.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>G-reco will be remembered
The only thing G-Reco is remembered for is the "I'm a genius! Oh no" meme that I'm pretty sure most people that post it don't even know where it's from.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'll remember it forever if they fricking release MG G-Self
2 years ago
Anonymous
We'll find out next week
It's coming
It might be a coincidence but the scheduled day for the Gunpla announcements is exactly a month before the showing date of the movie
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's not even Tomino's most remembered Gundam anime. That's OG Gundam, then Zeta, then CCA, then Turn A, then maybe ZZ, Ideon, and Dunbine.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm thinking about the future. I want Tomino to live forever, but it's likely that G-reco will be his last major project. After he dies, I think people will look back at G-reco, with the movie series completed, and remember it fondly as the culmination of his life's work. It might not surpass the likes of MSG or Turn A in that respect, but I think it will have a new reputation in the future.
It's not about being good or not. It's about the fact that the author just did whatever the frick and 90% of the supposed content is shit just made up by viewers.
You could turn Dragonball into a critique of rampant technological development and a warning about immigration and stem cell research if you wanted but the Mexicans that love it know Dragonball is just guys punching each other until their hair turns a different color with some food and ecchi puns every now and then.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Your DragonBall comparison is a complete strawman.
AoT literally has Marleyan characters learn the things they've been told about Eldians are propaganda, and have to learn to see the world for themselves and come to their own conclusions about it instead of believing the prevailing narrative.
That isn't made up by viewers, it's explicitly in the text of the story.
Even if that were true that the themes of AoT are just "made up by viewers", it still doesn't defeat my point.
The author got people to think and talk about those ideas on a large scale with his work as a launch pad.
The impact it has can't be denied.
I don't think you have any idea whether children can enjoy or understand G-Reco. Your claim that they can't has no basis. I don't think kids would be put off by any of Tomino's eccentricities the way an adult would. Kids will watch anything.
You're right that G-Reco failed to reach kids, but the only reason for that is that it aired past midnight, not in the afternoon or morning. No kids watched it. That's on the producers, not the director.
Oh yeah, forgot about that, makes sense i guess lol. Now everyone ITT knows it's their duty is having children to raise them on G-Reco and other Tominos. You wouldn't let his legacy die with your generation?
If anything it’s the weird goofy scenes and quirky characters that would draw kids to the series. What would turn them away is the hulking monster of a plot and the incredibly dense and nonsensical dialogue
>Tomino has utterly failed at reaching the younger generation that he so desperately wants to pass down his message to. Instead, the only ones appreaciating his animations are adults already obsessed with Gundam and anime.
Unfortunately yeah I'd have to agree there.
I've been saying for a while that the one thing G-Reco lacked was a strong emotional core and rooting in Bellri's perspective.
The show doesn't really treat him like the main character past episode 6 or 10 and I think this is what looses most people.
Audiences wanna relate to the MC and follow their journey internally and externally.
G-Reco doesn't do that, the perspective is more divorced from Bellri and the viewer isn't given much to latch onto.
By the end of episode 1 you don't even really have a well rounded image of him, you just know he's genki, smart, and is good at piloting robots.
But we learn that from the outside, we don't get any monologues or inner thoughts telling us how HE sees the world and who he is.
This is very important emotional framing in storytelling that is completely absent. Just comparing it to a similar story like Eureka Seven and you notice how different they feel.
(1/2)
E7 has an MC that joins a paramilitary group after a cute girl crashes into his life in a special robot.
But that show tells 90% of the story through the MC's perspective whether it's with framing, narrations, monologues, focusing on his emotions, or occlusion of info he doesn't have.
it also spends a LOT of time in the 1st episode just characterizing Renton and giving us a thorough understanding of his character and projecting where he'll have to grow.
We know he likes lifting, the dynamics of his relationship with his grandpa, his dad's a war hero, he has a sister, he's not doing the best in school, he really likes Eureka, he loves machines and is seen as a weirdo for it, he's a decent mechanic, he wants to pilot an LFO, he gets teased at school, he hates the town and wants to escape, he's got guts and can be rash, and that he's stubborn
But it's not just the fact that we're given that info, but also how it's delivered.
G-Reco gives us only a fraction of this information on Bellri in the first episode and on top of that the way it's done doesn't put the viewer completely in his perspective, we get the external, but not the internal.
If G-Reco had had the ideas of Tomino, but the direction sense of a more contemporary director like Kyouda, Taniguchi, Fukuda, or pretty much anyone who's directed a popular anime in the 00s I think it would've been much better received.
And we have an example of this working out phenomenally with Hathaway's Flash.
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Tomino anime has always had this problem with no emotional core and no characters to latch on to. Only MSG and Turn A had compelling characters and storytelling. Zeta was on to something with Kamille and Char but gets lost in the sea of harem antics and new girls appearing every 5 episodes and getting written off or dying in some hilarious way. In his other shows like Ideon and Dunbine characters barely have any time to breathe or develop in any interesting way beyond barebones character arcs, and then stuff like ZZ is just a total failure.
I wonder if Mashner is supposed to be a sort of parody of Murrue from Gundam Seed? I remember Tomino saying something about her along the lines of "A big breasted woman could never captain a ship". Mashner's characterization as a sexualized woman (read: her relationship with Rockpie) repeatedly gets her ship in danger, culminating in her getting them all killed after she goes mad with grief from Rockpie's death.
https://twitter.com/hirota_kei/status/1537056023726690305 >I was shown 'G-Reco IV' for a reason. As ever, it is difficult to grasp the outlines of which force's intentions and why ......, but there is an inclusiveness, warmth, sense of scale and humanity that makes such things unimportant. The battle scenes have a rough touch, as if from the 1970s, and the power of the film is such that you wonder 'how and when did anyone draw this? The power of the film is so powerful that it makes you wonder "How and when did someone draw this?". >As in the previous film, the end titles, which were probably made mainly from available materials, have a sharpness. By then, you're in a totally good mood. Also, there is an unnecessary variety of mobile suits, but in fact all of these mecha become one character, or rather, they begin to take on a unique texture as a buffer to the drama.
She couldn't stand being seen as a woman who can't get anything done. I wish Bellri didnt kill her so quickly. Also it was kinda fricked up how no one mentioned her after her death, one would think at least Mask would be sad.
I dont get why flaminia decided to return to towasanga. She struggled so much to do the reconguista and now that she gets to live peacefully on earth she just decides to leave? It's not like they were forcing surviving spacenoids out of the planet after the war.
I can forgive Manny for going wiener crazy insane I can forgive Manny for turning on her friends in the finale. I can forgive all of this. What I CAN'T FORGIVE however, is what she did to her hair. She had beautiful long black hair and she just cut if off. Cutting off perfect lovely long black hair is defacing art. It's polluting nature. It's like going to the grand canyon to bask in nature's majesty and seeing someone just tossed a bunch of fast food wrappers and bags all over the place. It's just... wrong.
There should've been a scene of her cutting her hair off when she makes the decision to join the capital guard.
It's a cliche, but there's a reason why it is. It would've been a great moment for her and a chance to give her more screen time, because she barely gets any in the first half of the show, and even later on it's still pretty sparse.
She needed more screentime before she cuts it as well, it's such a drastic character change, but we barely even get time to get a proper look at her character before then, so the impact of the change isn't as powerful as it could've been.
Nah I'd say not enough is done.
Aida is given some new scenes that seem like they're supposed to do that for her by highlighting her insecurities about being incompetent and her grief over Cahill's death and anger towards Bellri conflicting with her need for Bellri to use the G-Self.
But although they make it seem like these feelings are obstacles she'll have to deal with and grow from the plot never uses them and it doesn't lead to any real consequences in the story or show up in her character in a meaningful way.
She never tries to seriously undermine Bellri, or express how much disdain she actually has for him in ways that are impactful to the story.
And when it's revealed they're siblings it all kinda just evaporates and she shifts that anger to the people who put them in that position.
It would've been interesting for that internal conflict to have appeared more prominently in her characterization and utilized in her relationship towards Bellri earlier on.
The movies are still better than the tv show, but the tension is still missing. There's never a feeling that these complicated emotions she has or any of the main characters have will actually affect the plot by jeopardizing their goals and so the plot never reaches that 2nd act low-point where characters have to deal with consequences, reevaluate themselves and change how they approach the scenario.
This problem was also there in the show too.
They have a setup for development, but it never gets used. Instead they just continue to drift forwards through the plot and bump into the next development.
I still can't believe Space Pope wasn't evil. Even he seemed confused that the whole series went buy and he never tried to pull a fast one. Just an actually decent guy.
The implication is that the religious system that controls the energy distribution has no one at the helm.
It’s been there before any of the characters in the show were even alive and exists as a status quo in their world.
So you can’t find one person to blame because many people take part in it and responsibility is diffused.
It would’ve been interesting for G-Reco to have honed in on that more since it was the most interesting ideas in the show.
And also for it to have made Bellri learning the truth about his religion a more pivotal moment in his character and story arc.
After they got to the top Nut they just seem to completely drop all the SU-cordism stuff and Bellri isn’t really shaken by it at all.
Feels very unrealistic.
Post Gundam/UC. The original story, Hajimete Capital G or whatever, was supposed to be set far enough in the future that gundams were no longer relevant
>The admission present "Film frame set of 'G-Reco' & 'Yoshiyuki Tomino's works'" has been unveiled!
>The admission gifts for both "G Reconguista IV" and "G Reconguista V" have been released! A set of two film frames from each of the nine films selected from Reconguista G and Yoshiyuki Tomino's films will be distributed in limited quantities to visitors to Part 4 and Part 5!
>In Part 4, a limited number of 30,000 sets will be distributed. One from "G no Reconguista Ⅳ" "Love That Cries Out in Fierce Battle" (The Movie). One randomly selected card from the first episodes of the above four films: Invincible Super Man Zambot 3', 'Invincible Steel Man Daitarn 3', 'Space Runaway Ideon' and 'Combat Mecha Xabungle'. A total of two copies will be given away! Distribution start date: Friday 22 July 2022
>The fifth part is limited to 30,000 sets. One copy from "G Reconguista V" "Beyond the Line of Death", the film version.
>One random copy from the first episodes of the following five films: 'Aura Battler Dunbine', 'Heavy Metal L-Gaim', 'Brain Powerd', 'OVERMAN King Gainer', and 'Wings of Rean'.
Wings of Lean", one at random from the first episode of the above five works. Two copies in total will be given away! Distribution start date: 5 August 2022 (Friday) Don't miss out on this rare opportunity, available only at theatres during the screening period!
>The fifth part is limited to 30,000 sets. One copy from "G Reconguista V" "Beyond the Line of Death", the film version.
>One random copy from the first episodes of the following five films: 'Aura Battler Dunbine', 'Heavy Metal L-Gaim', 'Brain Powerd', 'OVERMAN King Gainer', and 'Wings of Rean'.
Wings of Lean", one at random from the first episode of the above five works. Two copies in total will be given away! Distribution start date: 5 August 2022 (Friday) Don't miss out on this rare opportunity, available only at theatres during the screening period!
Neat. I'd love an Ideon or L-Gaim frame. I wonder how big they are though.
>The fifth part is limited to 30,000 sets. One copy from "G Reconguista V" "Beyond the Line of Death", the film version.
>One random copy from the first episodes of the following five films: 'Aura Battler Dunbine', 'Heavy Metal L-Gaim', 'Brain Powerd', 'OVERMAN King Gainer', and 'Wings of Rean'.
Wings of Lean", one at random from the first episode of the above five works. Two copies in total will be given away! Distribution start date: 5 August 2022 (Friday) Don't miss out on this rare opportunity, available only at theatres during the screening period!
Does this confirm that the Tominoverse has indeed merged? Will we see them in the last G-Reco movies?
>The fifth part is limited to 30,000 sets. One copy from "G Reconguista V" "Beyond the Line of Death", the film version.
>One random copy from the first episodes of the following five films: 'Aura Battler Dunbine', 'Heavy Metal L-Gaim', 'Brain Powerd', 'OVERMAN King Gainer', and 'Wings of Rean'.
Wings of Lean", one at random from the first episode of the above five works. Two copies in total will be given away! Distribution start date: 5 August 2022 (Friday) Don't miss out on this rare opportunity, available only at theatres during the screening period!
Oh god, is this a sign that this'll be Tomino's last major project?
This is the moment when G-Reco stops working for me. Movie 3 already fixed this and the last two movies are adapting four episodes each so there will be lots of room for fleshing things out.
I have no idea
Most of the posters were discussing the show in earnest especially towards the end.
The OP seemed like it was a shitpost, but the thread was fine.
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/20962016/
Somewhat. I never found the pacing to be so egregious until it reached close to the ending, so it's really up to how the last two movies handle it for me.
Because we actually got to watch it while it was airing
While "the audience was around to watch it as it happened" was undoubtedly part of it, I'm pretty sure it was also partly because it took place in an age of social media where memes like that can spread really quickly (as opposed to when Loran missed with a warning shot back in 2000, when the internet was slower even if Japanese audiences could watch along and comment on it) and that part of it was almost certainly just ignorance of past instances of similar things too. G-Reco had a reputation when it aired for being really obscure in how it parsed information out to the audience as if it was a new thing, and radically different for a Gundam show; but that's Tomino shows in general, and even going back to the original Mobile Suit Gundam you'll find the same thing happening. Which is why people still debate things about the show to this day, 40 years later.
A lot of the people watching the show seemed to think things like Bellri hitting with a warning shot was something unique to his character, at least within the franchise, when Tomino has done the same thing at least twice before (Hathaway and Loran) and I'm pretty sure it happened with Uso too, at the very least. It stuck because people found it cool, as much as because it was something you could snip out in a webm and show off with no further context needed etc.
Three has the best poster
Eh, I like the 2nd one personally. Something about the cast being arranged down one side, as everything points or moves up towards the other side is pleasing to me.
Kihei gets to be queen of the moon, and Tomino said the movies would end with Aida being queen of the world
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Moon isn't the world, and if Aida does become queen of the world then that seems like a really weird change from the TV show where she just became a diplomat or something; especially since the world as set up has multiple power blocs, some of which aren't even really part of the plot, that have no reason to all just up and appoint her as their leader. Has there even been any setup to have a change where they all disappear in the final movie or something? I didn't hear of any such extensive changes any time I've checked G-Reco threads, though I haven't been keeping up with all of them by any stretch.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Tomino said it in an interview, of course knowing him he could have meant something weird and metaphorical
Tomino gives zero fricks about the Gundam timeline and the fact people are still seething about the placement of vaguely connected Gundam series probably makes him chuckle himself to sleep at night.
Why would they have any more of a problem with it in that scenario than they already do right now? If he literally had a character in the movie go "so the Turn A was piloted by Loran Cehack in the past" or something, then it still wouldn't (a) dispel the arguments people make about some things in the animation making more sense to come before/after Turn A, or be any more explicit a thing than Tomino himself saying G-Reco follows it in a public interview really. It might reinvigorate the debate, but it wouldn't really make it any worse.
2 years ago
Anonymous
A lot of arguments for/against its placement at the moment are mostly centered around whether to accept Tomino's interview comments as fact or not, especially since the show itself only mentions UC and not Turn A. Which is why most debates can go either way. But having an actual, explicit fact in the movie itself is definitely something that can't really be denied.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not really, because the statement a character makes about how Cyrano 5 has been occupied continuously for several thousand years, the state of Jaburo despite being open to the elements but not being clean of technology etc. all exist within animation already and get brought up all the time in those debates. I believe the Cyrano 5 statement was slightly changed in the movies from what I saw in a thread a while ago, but the animation is still already ambiguous, so even a naked statement won't really change that; and it's unlikely he'd include such a naked statement anyway.
A recurring beat in late tomino gundam is villains born in times of peace who romantasize war and foolishly push for it even when they themselves are woefully unprepared for it's true consequences. This is partly a commentary on the whole re-militarization sentiment going around in japanese politics, which Shinzo Abe was a huge advocate for.
This cannot be a coincidence, they knew the exact time of Abe's shooting.
HOLY FRICK
i love g-self's eyes
I wonder if those impact frames are for the movie or the commercial.
The way those are used so quickly is very unlike Tomino. He must've given the animators more free range.
I will honestly be surprised if Tomino lives to see the last G-Reco movie and last 2 Hathaway movies before he croaks.
What are you even talking about? G-Reco 5 ccmes out lit
That is a terrible sentence. Just awful.
Oh no, the Gundam mafia got anon before he could finish the post
G-Reco 5 comes out a few weeks fatter G-Reco 4. Unless Tomino dies within the next 2 months, he'll finish those.
I really like the Crescent Ship.
G-Reco in the movies sometimes looks like a really angry bunny
That rabbit's dynamite.
Angwy dynamite wabbit
>very angry harobee
>that lewd upskirt assistant shot
>based La Gu
>Rosenthal looking like a chad
>thicc G-Self
fricking great poster.
BOKU JANAI
>Valvrape was the true dark history all along
No one cares.
G-Reco is trash.
Did Aida's breasts get bigger?
Literally was about to say this
They've always been bigger in the new movie scenes. Reminds me of how Gainax made Yoko's breasts even larger in the new scenes for the TTGL movies.
Nee-san's perfect breasts. Glistening with beads of sweat as she takes off her pilot suit.
I look forward to enhanced Bellriposting after the final movie makes them a couple
Looks like they changed the Photon Torpedo activation scene and now hits both the Amerians and the Capital Army
All of these looks to be wiped out
It was a warning shot.
G-Reco is a cosmic comedy
Good job Bellri
Bellri just can't catch a break
>fires a warning shot
>sets to the lowest power setting
>commits genocide
Why did he do it, bros?
How fricking powerful is it at full power?
Not genocide, Omnicide
It almost looks like he tries to do the SU-Cord prayer hands thing at the end there.
>part IV
>still no frankfurter sucker sister scene
give me the age of nee-san Tomino you coward
They're going to make the Photon Torpedoes even more horrifying, aren't they?
Magnificent.
God I love the G-Self
And then he never used the Photon Torpedo again
Updated Kashiba Mikoshi design
Kinda looks like an alien version of La Vie en Rose
What was the deal with Flaminia being revealed to be a midget at the end of the show? I get that she's like Lu Gau, and likewise uses a body suit to hide the deformities, but what did Tomino mean? I don't get how it fits thematically with the rest of the finale, what the actual point of the scene was. And why a midget?
Spacenoids are becoming dysgenic. It's not just because La Gu is really, really old. Space le bad
The idea is that living in space causes all kinds of health problems and deformities becasue humans were not made for it; they evolved to live on Earth, so we should take care of it instead of going "lel who cares about pollution, we'lll just go to space". Tomino has always been into ecologism.
To explain why Flaminia betrayed them, basically. Showing her as a midget is basically the whole "show don't tell" deal. Midget = from Venus Globe = part of G-IT Lab wanting to return to Earth.
She shrunk after arriving on earth and experiencing gravity.
>whats the point of sci-fi concepts in this sci-fi series
We Belong to Earth
https://twitter.com/Char_Tweet/status/1531981788561686529
G-Arcane finally transformed!
Great, now it needs to show maximum photon output which involves the back head fins opening up to release excess photons.
People actually watched these movies? I'm legitimately shocked they're still getting made.
>new Tomino content
>no one should watch it
Are you feeling alright?
>>new Tomino content
>new
G-Reco dropped 8 years ago. These comp. movies offer nothing we didn't see back then.
>These comp. movies offer nothing we didn't see back then.
Half of the stuff shown on the trailer is not on the show
Theres like an hour of new and changed content, some significant, in the first three
The last 2 are coming out this July and August
And how long till we get a BD. rip.
Bandai doesn't care that much about G-Reco so I'm guessing it'll be the same as movie 3's last year which was released during December
Pretty keen that movies 4 and 5 are being released so soon.
Do these movies have schizophrenic pacing like most compilation movies or are they actually the definitive experience?
They're 5 movies, so they have a lot of wiggle room, but so far it's been paced pretty well. The only weird thing for me personally is that they sort of brush over Raraiya's arc, so she kind of gets past her brain damage a bit out of nowhere.
That's exactly what happens in the show though. So no harm no foul.
It's 26 episodes divided into 5 movies, so runtime-wise it actually doesn't cut out much unlike other Gundam compilation movies that try to squeeze 50 episodes into just two or three movies. Each movie so far as been 90 to 105 minutes, so each one could cover 4 to 5 TV episodes fairly easily with minimal cutting. That said, the pacing is slightly faster than the TV series so it's not just a straightforward adaptation of TV to movie format, and from interviews and other sources it's been mentioned that there's going to be quite a bit of new footage and story content for the remaining two movies that are yet to be released but should be out by later this year.
https://www.zeonic-republic.net/?p=8967
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2021-08-23/gundam-reconguista-in-g-producer-about-half-of-4th-film-is-new-material/.176531
They’re the definitive experience since the show already had schizo pacing
They kept Noredo's QUALITY.
>QUALITY
that's way too cute to be considered bad
Tiny shits don't need to be polished. Unless you are autistic.
I've only watched the first three movies and I'm not sure if I should finish the series by jumping into the anime or just waiting it out.
wait.. these trailers have got new scenes and just by it this time they changed the plot quite lot.
Almost there...
the pantsu smack dab in the middle of the first poster will never not be funny to me
Probably requested specifically by Tomino.
I will never not like how busy these posters are.
I hope the last poster would have all the characters and mobile suits holding hands and circling around the Earth
A good reflection of how hectic the show was.
G-self's chest looks like a screaming face in this gif
I would like to see every "qualitygays" jump off the cliff.
>a compilation series from 2014 is still the best hand animated mecha anime
pretty sad state of affairs
To be fair, for whatever criticism you could make against G-reco TV, animation quality was not one of them.
>a series from 1996 is still the best hand animated mecha anime
fixed that for you
New ZGocky battle
>HG never
thanks doc
Does the MC still wanna frick his sister?
And how.
He wanted to frick the red haired girl and then found out she was his sister.
Did you not watch the show?
Anon, "AND HOW" is an expression that signifies very strong agreement.
show still sux
aight
You can't even speak English
you can hear me talk?
You're a very loud typist.
I need a qt brain damaged Raraiya gf
Can't wait for those new Venus Globe scenes
I'm actually really looking forward to what's different here.
>They kept king Gainer's rings for the startup sequence
Nice.
Found another image of the back part of the poster
Can this finally beat Demon Slayer, Eva, and Cucuruz Doan?
Didn't the JJK movie beat those?
They seem to be hyping up this scene, maybe it'll be something really good. I remember seeing a lot of teasers for the scene in the 3rd movie where Bellri runs in the forest and cries about Aida being his sister, and that turned out to be the best scene in the movie.
They're releasing movie five the following month after this one right? Any news on BD releases for either? They're releasing so close to each other I hope they do some kind of paired set.
I'm hoping they'll release a complete set that contains all 5 movies
are the movies doing anything to fix the shitty pacing and whatever writing or is it still only good for the pretty animation and Aida?
IMO, I think they're now good enough to replace the TV version. You should watch them and see for yourself though.
The writing has improved slightly and the pacing is about the standard for compilation movies, which means it’s actually better paced than the series
>the pacing is about the standard for compilation movies, which means it’s actually better paced than the series
I kek'd
The writing only really started to take a hit around where movie 4 picks up. The most notable difference though is in the 3rd movie where there's an added scene that shows Bellri coming to terms with Aida being his sister. The way Bellri seemed to barely react to that information in the show, and then randomly sperg out on occasion, was a major flaw. The fact that they fixed it gives me faith that the story will be significantly better in these movies.
Movie 4 is shaping up to be the one with most changes that they needed another assistant director to help out in its production
>Ending Theme: "Coloring by G-Reco" by Hasegawa Daisuke
Nice. I love G by Dreams Come True but I'm excited for a new ED theme.
>Gundam Narrative director is Tomino's protege
Oh wow, didn't expect that
https://twitter.com/ippeigyoubu/status/1533613240952836096
What the frick is movie 5 even going to be if they're covering all of Venus Globe and the opening of the final battle in movie 4? Is it just going to be literally 1 hour 30 minutes of nonstop fighting with Tomino letting the animators go insane?
He's pulling a Be Invoked
Space (incest) baby?
>He's pulling a Be Invoked
Can't remember the last time tomino pull something of that scale.
Im expecting a substantially extended epilogue sequence Turn A-style. The one in the show was so rushed it hardly felt like a finale, you barely got a sense of where the world and the characters stood after the war ends outside of Bellri and Aida. It goes by so fast it doesn't get you feeling anything like the Turn A epilogue did.
I remember him saying he wanted Aida to become queen and he’d do it in the movies
How are they even going to market movie 5 when it premieres just 2 weeks after movie 4's premiere?
Dare I suggest a post-credit scene?
They don't need to. Anyone who's seen the first four movies is going to see the fifth, anyone who hasn't isn't going to start there. The first four movies are the fifths marketing.
Two more movies until Bandai has no choice but to announce MG G-Self. Ver Ka or not.
Don't Gunpla Otaku hate G-Reco?
Dunno but considering that people are still clamoring for MG G-Self after it won that poll convinces otherwise.
Plus knowing Gunpla, people don't care if a series they hate or not as long as they love the suits. That's the beauty of Gunpla, you can love a design even if you don't really care for its show.
Gunpla otaku hated how cheap and badly made the G-Reco kits were. They don't give a shit about the shows no matter how much Build Fighters makes you think they're all Gundam autists. They're plastic kits first and foremost, just like how a lot of the Gundam EXVS playerbase doesn't give a shit about Gundam as a show but love the games.
Tiurn-A MG is one of the most beloved kits around and that's still a cult classic at best show in the franchise even if more people appreciate now than a decade ago.
Are you kidding? The Grimorie was a super popular kit, I've even come across two seperate builders working on 1/60 G-Self.
This scene was great but I hope we get more background on Kia Mbeki in the 4th movie. When he was introduced he just seemed like a throwaway grunt pilot but once he died then it was all about how he was this great hero of the Reconguista plan and everyone secretly admired him, etc.
Kia is basically Cahill 2.0.
I thought he was like the CCA Char or Gym Ghingham of G-Reco
Cumpa is old man Gym, if Gym had to retire from piloting.
I mean the G-IT lab reconguista is pretty small. It's like 2 or 3 grunts and the girls
To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand G-Reco.
Not really.
Sadly these days basic attention and retention are high iq traits.
It bothers me how Klim and Mick Jack survived the conflict unscathed. They were just as bloodthirsty and eager to use UC weapons to wage war as any other villain, never reached any sort of empathy with anyone or realized the true gravity of warfare by losing someone close to them, they continued to treat war as a game and their technology as toys to the very end, always contributing to scalate the conflict, yet never got punished in any way.
I really expected them to die in the finale, instead Klim is implied to replace his father as Ameria's ruler (or whatever crushing him with the ship was supposed to mean) and we are suppose to see it as a good thing? Is it because they are the young?
Klim is kind of a tool but he also doesn't appreciate the fact that he and the space fleet were sent out as a distraction while the Amerian earth fleet was secretly moving to capture the Capital Tower. He was mostly being led around by his dad, although he is bloodthirsty
While Klim does enjoy a good fight and is pretty eager to wage war, he mostly does so within the confines of his position. He's similar to the surviving G-IT members in that sense, in that he isn't someone who moves or leads the ideological side of a conflict, but instead follows. I don't believe there's any implication that he'll replace his father as leader of Ameria either.
Cumpa Rusita mentions Towasanga has a history of more than 2000 years extending back to the Universal Century, implying UC ended only less than 2000 years ago at the time of G-Reco. So how could it take place after Turn-A like Tomino stated?
Tomino is just taking the piss out of Banrise because he knows the timeline doesn't matter, anyone who says otherwise is a moron
He apparently talked more about it in his book about planning and making G-Reco, "Don't Lick Making Anime"
UC is a catch all. Even in Turn A during the Black History broadcast they just call it Universal Century even though there are videos playing of Leos and the mass colony drop of After War.
Turn A also has clips from Wing, G and X, though.
That line changed in the movie, iirc. Instead of "2000 years extending back to the UC", it was something like "long history including the UC".
https://twitter.com/fukuda320/status/1535279044714897411
This is honestly one of my favorite frames from the show.
Must be interesting to have all of Sunrise in one building now. Also,
>Fukuda
Does that mean the SEED movie is in the works for real this time?
Yes, unlike any other time in the past Sunrise/Bandai has actually started a promotional rollout to build up to SEED's return.
The 1/1 freedom, the ReIgnited branding, and Eclipse manga seem like a part of that.
Eclipse manga is failing so hard, though. No wonder we don't get more manga in English. Their project views are utter shit.
>Bellri: Look, I'm just saying it won't be for at least a few generations before incest babies start developing anything resembling birth defects.
>Everyone else: ....
Praise Tomino all you want, it's undeniable he's senile for thinking any child could enjoy or understand this show. He aims for a demographic and misses spectacularly. Speaking as someone who likes G-Reco, Tomino has utterly failed at reaching the younger generation that he so desperately wants to pass down his message to. Instead, the only ones appreaciating his animations are adults already obsessed with Gundam and anime. In that sense, Reconguista in G is a failure, so far up it's own ass it's incapable of speaking to the youth. G-Reco has worthwhile, even important things to say to children, but they are all lost in the sea of eccentricities. That obtuse and off-beat nature may be precisely part of the appeal for older audiences, but what's the point if no child could ever get anything out of it? It's not about dumbing it down, a more skilled, less out of touch writer could weave a narrative that tackles these ideas and succeed at positively impacting a generation. Tomino's later work only being loved and understood by reclusive otakus and people in the anime industry is, in a way, a hell of his own creation.
>Tomino has utterly failed at reaching the younger generation that he so desperately wants to pass down his message to. Instead, the only ones appreaciating his animations are adults already obsessed with Gundam and anime.
Unfortunately yeah I'd have to agree there.
I've been saying for a while that the one thing G-Reco lacked was a strong emotional core and rooting in Bellri's perspective.
The show doesn't really treat him like the main character past episode 6 or 10 and I think this is what looses most people.
Audiences wanna relate to the MC and follow their journey internally and externally.
G-Reco doesn't do that, the perspective is more divorced from Bellri and the viewer isn't given much to latch onto.
By the end of episode 1 you don't even really have a well rounded image of him, you just know he's genki, smart, and is good at piloting robots.
But we learn that from the outside, we don't get any monologues or inner thoughts telling us how HE sees the world and who he is.
This is very important emotional framing in storytelling that is completely absent. Just comparing it to a similar story like Eureka Seven and you notice how different they feel.
(1/2)
E7 has an MC that joins a paramilitary group after a cute girl crashes into his life in a special robot.
But that show tells 90% of the story through the MC's perspective whether it's with framing, narrations, monologues, focusing on his emotions, or occlusion of info he doesn't have.
it also spends a LOT of time in the 1st episode just characterizing Renton and giving us a thorough understanding of his character and projecting where he'll have to grow.
We know he likes lifting, the dynamics of his relationship with his grandpa, his dad's a war hero, he has a sister, he's not doing the best in school, he really likes Eureka, he loves machines and is seen as a weirdo for it, he's a decent mechanic, he wants to pilot an LFO, he gets teased at school, he hates the town and wants to escape, he's got guts and can be rash, and that he's stubborn
But it's not just the fact that we're given that info, but also how it's delivered.
G-Reco gives us only a fraction of this information on Bellri in the first episode and on top of that the way it's done doesn't put the viewer completely in his perspective, we get the external, but not the internal.
If G-Reco had had the ideas of Tomino, but the direction sense of a more contemporary director like Kyouda, Taniguchi, Fukuda, or pretty much anyone who's directed a popular anime in the 00s I think it would've been much better received.
And we have an example of this working out phenomenally with Hathaway's Flash.
(2/2)
Tomino anime has always had this problem with no emotional core and no characters to latch on to. Only MSG and Turn A had compelling characters and storytelling. Zeta was on to something with Kamille and Char but gets lost in the sea of harem antics and new girls appearing every 5 episodes and getting written off or dying in some hilarious way. In his other shows like Ideon and Dunbine characters barely have any time to breathe or develop in any interesting way beyond barebones character arcs, and then stuff like ZZ is just a total failure.
L-Gaim does it as well.
I think King Gainer too, though its been a while since I've seen it, but I do remember the series giving a lot of attention to Gainer's internal perspective and his relationships with Cynthia and Sarah
The emotional core in Tomino's shows tend to come from the environment and the world the characters live in. It's a trite phrase, but the setting is often a character itself.
That being said, I think Brain Powerd has the most endearing cast in Tomino's anime. The acting is theatrical and the dialogue is loaded with confusing terminology, but their humanity still shines through.
I'm 22 and G-Reco is my favorite anime.
If you're on /m/ you're already an outlier.
Also 22 wasn't the audience intended for G-Reco
The first post spoke in absolutes. It aired in 2014.
the "sea of eccentricities" and "obtuse and off-beat nature" are part of what is important to communicate to children through G-Reco.
There's definitely a way to convey that without completely missing the target audience though.
Regardless what you think of it Attack on Titan covers similar ideas about people manipulating information and historical narratives to serve their own goals and has managed to get those ideas across to a much broader audience much more successfully than G-Reco did.
If the point is really to convey a message to as many people as possible then you'd have to make something that would be popular
>Attack on Titan
Yeah, I figured that's about your speed.
You completely missed the point of that post if this is how you chose to respond to it.
I never said AoT is good, there's a reason "regardless what you think of it" was typed because I'm not talking about the quality of the series, simply the fact that it's popular and is able to spread the author's message more effectively because of that.
Your reactionary dismissal of it seemingly just based on seeing the title "Attack on Titan" is extremely childish and betrays any intelligence you attempt to exude.
So you need to be handheld. Got it
>manipulating information
Uhhh you speak about this but you didn't pick up that the G-Reco itself being meta about this by also manipulating information shown to the viewers? Sounds like a you problem, bro. xD
>If the point is really to convey a message to as many people as possible then you'd have to make something that would be popular
I think G-Reco has done it's job of making people ask questions.
The post literally says "similar ideas" indicating that obviously G-Reco covers the same thing.
Reading comprehension.
>I think G-Reco has done it's job of making people ask questions.
The point being discussed was never if G-Reco was capable of doing that, no one is questioning that. It was about how effectively it was able to reach its intended audience with those ideas. As stated in the post at the beginning of this reply chain.
The fact that the only places you even see the show being discussed in any depth are in the corners of mecha forums like /m/, Gundam fan communities, or among Tomino fans shows that it did not have the impact it was meant to have.
I'm not an anime fan so I don't know what that attack on titan thing is
I intake G-Reco like how I intake a Stanley Kubrick movies
Attack on Titan was about an ancient alien prophecy worm and shipping you fricking moron. Everything else was literally fanfiction created by autists trying to justify watching or reading a badly written battle shonen because they wanted Hitler to win.
Yeah I don't think it's good either, regardless it still can't be denied it got thousands of its viewers thinking and talking about those ideas though.
And then the author humiliated all of them by turning the final arc into a blatant Marvel's Avengers rip-off and disregarding whatever thematic message it was trying to say. G-reco will be remembered as THE Tomino anime for years to come, and aot will be remembered as a joke. So comparing the two as if G-reco can learn something from aot's execution is just context denial.
>G-reco will be remembered
The only thing G-Reco is remembered for is the "I'm a genius! Oh no" meme that I'm pretty sure most people that post it don't even know where it's from.
I'll remember it forever if they fricking release MG G-Self
We'll find out next week
It might be a coincidence but the scheduled day for the Gunpla announcements is exactly a month before the showing date of the movie
It's not even Tomino's most remembered Gundam anime. That's OG Gundam, then Zeta, then CCA, then Turn A, then maybe ZZ, Ideon, and Dunbine.
I'm thinking about the future. I want Tomino to live forever, but it's likely that G-reco will be his last major project. After he dies, I think people will look back at G-reco, with the movie series completed, and remember it fondly as the culmination of his life's work. It might not surpass the likes of MSG or Turn A in that respect, but I think it will have a new reputation in the future.
It's not about being good or not. It's about the fact that the author just did whatever the frick and 90% of the supposed content is shit just made up by viewers.
You could turn Dragonball into a critique of rampant technological development and a warning about immigration and stem cell research if you wanted but the Mexicans that love it know Dragonball is just guys punching each other until their hair turns a different color with some food and ecchi puns every now and then.
Your DragonBall comparison is a complete strawman.
AoT literally has Marleyan characters learn the things they've been told about Eldians are propaganda, and have to learn to see the world for themselves and come to their own conclusions about it instead of believing the prevailing narrative.
That isn't made up by viewers, it's explicitly in the text of the story.
Even if that were true that the themes of AoT are just "made up by viewers", it still doesn't defeat my point.
The author got people to think and talk about those ideas on a large scale with his work as a launch pad.
The impact it has can't be denied.
I don't think you have any idea whether children can enjoy or understand G-Reco. Your claim that they can't has no basis. I don't think kids would be put off by any of Tomino's eccentricities the way an adult would. Kids will watch anything.
You're right that G-Reco failed to reach kids, but the only reason for that is that it aired past midnight, not in the afternoon or morning. No kids watched it. That's on the producers, not the director.
Oh yeah, forgot about that, makes sense i guess lol. Now everyone ITT knows it's their duty is having children to raise them on G-Reco and other Tominos. You wouldn't let his legacy die with your generation?
If anything it’s the weird goofy scenes and quirky characters that would draw kids to the series. What would turn them away is the hulking monster of a plot and the incredibly dense and nonsensical dialogue
Just gonna leave this here
Cute
Okay Gunota Boomer
Knowing when the 3rd movie Blurays got released, we won't be able to see this until next year aren't we?
Probably
I wonder if Mashner is supposed to be a sort of parody of Murrue from Gundam Seed? I remember Tomino saying something about her along the lines of "A big breasted woman could never captain a ship". Mashner's characterization as a sexualized woman (read: her relationship with Rockpie) repeatedly gets her ship in danger, culminating in her getting them all killed after she goes mad with grief from Rockpie's death.
It's coming
It's over... No MG G-Self...
They teased a mysterious new MG that has yet to be revealed, there’s still hope
>Ver.Ka
Maybe for the last movie. Maybe.
G-Self is trending! Even the nips were expecting it to be announced today lol
Do you think he'll have the balls to go for the Aida route this time?
>aida route
If G-Reco isn't a cult anime yet, it definitely will be with an incest end.
does this pic have some japanese cultural meaning I'm missing? Why is she making that face?
What exactly happened in the piani kaluta incident?
How would a Tomino and Toriyama anime be?
Every episode is like the last episode of G-Reco with a dash of Victory and ZZ.
HAVE SEX!
fricking oldtypes
Simultaneous BD release please! Or maybe a BD set that contains all the 5 movies
https://twitter.com/hirota_kei/status/1537056023726690305
>I was shown 'G-Reco IV' for a reason. As ever, it is difficult to grasp the outlines of which force's intentions and why ......, but there is an inclusiveness, warmth, sense of scale and humanity that makes such things unimportant. The battle scenes have a rough touch, as if from the 1970s, and the power of the film is such that you wonder 'how and when did anyone draw this? The power of the film is so powerful that it makes you wonder "How and when did someone draw this?".
>As in the previous film, the end titles, which were probably made mainly from available materials, have a sharpness. By then, you're in a totally good mood. Also, there is an unnecessary variety of mobile suits, but in fact all of these mecha become one character, or rather, they begin to take on a unique texture as a buffer to the drama.
I want to pump Raraiya full of my seed.
Barara was best girl, why did she go insane?
She couldn't stand being seen as a woman who can't get anything done. I wish Bellri didnt kill her so quickly. Also it was kinda fricked up how no one mentioned her after her death, one would think at least Mask would be sad.
Female moment. Manny acted the same way after the Yggdrasil attack.
Rara at least had the excuse of the machine making her nutty. Manny just decided to become a b***h for no reason.
I dont get why flaminia decided to return to towasanga. She struggled so much to do the reconguista and now that she gets to live peacefully on earth she just decides to leave? It's not like they were forcing surviving spacenoids out of the planet after the war.
I can forgive Manny for going wiener crazy insane I can forgive Manny for turning on her friends in the finale. I can forgive all of this. What I CAN'T FORGIVE however, is what she did to her hair. She had beautiful long black hair and she just cut if off. Cutting off perfect lovely long black hair is defacing art. It's polluting nature. It's like going to the grand canyon to bask in nature's majesty and seeing someone just tossed a bunch of fast food wrappers and bags all over the place. It's just... wrong.
identified as a filthy fatso with an asian fetish
I'm not fat
source?
There should've been a scene of her cutting her hair off when she makes the decision to join the capital guard.
It's a cliche, but there's a reason why it is. It would've been a great moment for her and a chance to give her more screen time, because she barely gets any in the first half of the show, and even later on it's still pretty sparse.
She needed more screentime before she cuts it as well, it's such a drastic character change, but we barely even get time to get a proper look at her character before then, so the impact of the change isn't as powerful as it could've been.
She shouldn't have cut it off at all because it looks bad.
Just twists the knife
I love character development haircuts and short haired girls, but Manny really did look better with long hair.
Kind of insult to injury that they make this whole eyecatch for her when you only see her with long hair for like 10 minutes of screen time total.
Aida stole the hair animation budget
Hair jobs from Aida nee-san
My issue with the TV series was that it felt like it didn’t have any tension at all. So the movies fix this?
Nah I'd say not enough is done.
Aida is given some new scenes that seem like they're supposed to do that for her by highlighting her insecurities about being incompetent and her grief over Cahill's death and anger towards Bellri conflicting with her need for Bellri to use the G-Self.
But although they make it seem like these feelings are obstacles she'll have to deal with and grow from the plot never uses them and it doesn't lead to any real consequences in the story or show up in her character in a meaningful way.
She never tries to seriously undermine Bellri, or express how much disdain she actually has for him in ways that are impactful to the story.
And when it's revealed they're siblings it all kinda just evaporates and she shifts that anger to the people who put them in that position.
It would've been interesting for that internal conflict to have appeared more prominently in her characterization and utilized in her relationship towards Bellri earlier on.
The movies are still better than the tv show, but the tension is still missing. There's never a feeling that these complicated emotions she has or any of the main characters have will actually affect the plot by jeopardizing their goals and so the plot never reaches that 2nd act low-point where characters have to deal with consequences, reevaluate themselves and change how they approach the scenario.
This problem was also there in the show too.
They have a setup for development, but it never gets used. Instead they just continue to drift forwards through the plot and bump into the next development.
Frick Yeah
I still can't believe Space Pope wasn't evil. Even he seemed confused that the whole series went buy and he never tried to pull a fast one. Just an actually decent guy.
The implication is that the religious system that controls the energy distribution has no one at the helm.
It’s been there before any of the characters in the show were even alive and exists as a status quo in their world.
So you can’t find one person to blame because many people take part in it and responsibility is diffused.
It would’ve been interesting for G-Reco to have honed in on that more since it was the most interesting ideas in the show.
And also for it to have made Bellri learning the truth about his religion a more pivotal moment in his character and story arc.
After they got to the top Nut they just seem to completely drop all the SU-cordism stuff and Bellri isn’t really shaken by it at all.
Feels very unrealistic.
Cut him some slack, he's trying to deal with the revelation of how badly he wants to frick his sister. His sexy sexy sister.
have the blurays for Movies 1-3 been released in the west yet?
Movie 3 is available at RightStuf
Yeah and they want moronic money for it
None have been officially released in the west, but the JP blurays contain english subtitles so there's no issue with imports.
This really did not deserve movies.
lol get fricked ibogay
maybe bamco will finally finish that mobage at 5 years
The suits know that Tomino's name will pull in gunota money, and the bald wizard ain't getting any younger
>Tomino's last Gundam didn't deserve movies
>he thinks G-Reco is Gundam
Tomino already said that Turn A was his last Gundam
If it isn't gundam then what is it? Some generic mecha anime?
Post Gundam/UC. The original story, Hajimete Capital G or whatever, was supposed to be set far enough in the future that gundams were no longer relevant
>The admission present "Film frame set of 'G-Reco' & 'Yoshiyuki Tomino's works'" has been unveiled!
>The admission gifts for both "G Reconguista IV" and "G Reconguista V" have been released! A set of two film frames from each of the nine films selected from Reconguista G and Yoshiyuki Tomino's films will be distributed in limited quantities to visitors to Part 4 and Part 5!
>In Part 4, a limited number of 30,000 sets will be distributed. One from "G no Reconguista Ⅳ" "Love That Cries Out in Fierce Battle" (The Movie). One randomly selected card from the first episodes of the above four films: Invincible Super Man Zambot 3', 'Invincible Steel Man Daitarn 3', 'Space Runaway Ideon' and 'Combat Mecha Xabungle'. A total of two copies will be given away! Distribution start date: Friday 22 July 2022
>The fifth part is limited to 30,000 sets. One copy from "G Reconguista V" "Beyond the Line of Death", the film version.
>One random copy from the first episodes of the following five films: 'Aura Battler Dunbine', 'Heavy Metal L-Gaim', 'Brain Powerd', 'OVERMAN King Gainer', and 'Wings of Rean'.
Wings of Lean", one at random from the first episode of the above five works. Two copies in total will be given away! Distribution start date: 5 August 2022 (Friday) Don't miss out on this rare opportunity, available only at theatres during the screening period!
Neat. I'd love an Ideon or L-Gaim frame. I wonder how big they are though.
>. I wonder how big they are though.
About the size of a roll of stamps
Does this confirm that the Tominoverse has indeed merged? Will we see them in the last G-Reco movies?
it's just a way to reward OG fans
Just piggybacking off the Tomino art exhibit they had recently.
Oh god, is this a sign that this'll be Tomino's last major project?
He's 80 years old, what the hell do you think
>¥0 was spent in marketing these movies
Don't they do fairly well for compilation movies though
Theyre not compilations. Theyre rebuilds
The first three certainly aren't anything close to that
want wuxia gunpla
You are not asking Bandai hard enough
What's that suit?
Wuxia
Thanks. Yeah, pretty moronic of me. When I read Wuxia I disregarded it as a name and thought he was talking about the Chinese genre.
Nice deductive reasoning skills. moron.
I'm hoping for a trailer and poster for Movie 5 this Friday
After having just finished the TV series I thought it was fine but the epilogue felt extremely rushed so I hope the last movie can expand on it a lot.
This is the moment when G-Reco stops working for me. Movie 3 already fixed this and the last two movies are adapting four episodes each so there will be lots of room for fleshing things out.
Advanced continuous screening with Tomino of IV and V on July 17th. We might get some early spoilers for us overseas.
Why the frick did the other reco thread get deleted?
Because it was shit
Mods didn't get it
I have no idea
Most of the posters were discussing the show in earnest especially towards the end.
The OP seemed like it was a shitpost, but the thread was fine.
https://desuarchive.org/m/thread/20962016/
>The OP seemed like it was a shitpost,
That's plenty enough to catch the attention of a janny.
so do the movies fix the pacing?
Somewhat. I never found the pacing to be so egregious until it reached close to the ending, so it's really up to how the last two movies handle it for me.
VP9 Webm test
>going straight for the wienerpit
Bellri "It's your fault if you get hit by my warning shot" Zenam.
How come the "warning shot" meme stuck with Bellri when almost all of the Gundam Tomino MCs did it?
Because we actually got to watch it while it was airing
While "the audience was around to watch it as it happened" was undoubtedly part of it, I'm pretty sure it was also partly because it took place in an age of social media where memes like that can spread really quickly (as opposed to when Loran missed with a warning shot back in 2000, when the internet was slower even if Japanese audiences could watch along and comment on it) and that part of it was almost certainly just ignorance of past instances of similar things too. G-Reco had a reputation when it aired for being really obscure in how it parsed information out to the audience as if it was a new thing, and radically different for a Gundam show; but that's Tomino shows in general, and even going back to the original Mobile Suit Gundam you'll find the same thing happening. Which is why people still debate things about the show to this day, 40 years later.
A lot of the people watching the show seemed to think things like Bellri hitting with a warning shot was something unique to his character, at least within the franchise, when Tomino has done the same thing at least twice before (Hathaway and Loran) and I'm pretty sure it happened with Uso too, at the very least. It stuck because people found it cool, as much as because it was something you could snip out in a webm and show off with no further context needed etc.
Eh, I like the 2nd one personally. Something about the cast being arranged down one side, as everything points or moves up towards the other side is pleasing to me.
>Shinzo Abe death announced
>G-Reco V details posted at the same time
Madmen
He just shining finger punch?
Sometimes it just charges up like that, I dunno why, maybe something something photon battery power
Everything in this PV seems to be from the show. Maybe they're hiding the change to that rushed ending from the TV version.
Or Tomino decided “frick it” and is just going to make things more confusing
I have a very real fear he will try to find some way to put it after Turn A. Which makes no fricking sense
Aida turns out to be Kihel’s descendant which is why she gets to be queen of the world
Neither of them are queen of the world though?
Kihei gets to be queen of the moon, and Tomino said the movies would end with Aida being queen of the world
The Moon isn't the world, and if Aida does become queen of the world then that seems like a really weird change from the TV show where she just became a diplomat or something; especially since the world as set up has multiple power blocs, some of which aren't even really part of the plot, that have no reason to all just up and appoint her as their leader. Has there even been any setup to have a change where they all disappear in the final movie or something? I didn't hear of any such extensive changes any time I've checked G-Reco threads, though I haven't been keeping up with all of them by any stretch.
Tomino said it in an interview, of course knowing him he could have meant something weird and metaphorical
Tomino gives zero fricks about the Gundam timeline and the fact people are still seething about the placement of vaguely connected Gundam series probably makes him chuckle himself to sleep at night.
It would be funny if he did, if only because timelinegays would have a fricking aneurysm over it.
Why would they have any more of a problem with it in that scenario than they already do right now? If he literally had a character in the movie go "so the Turn A was piloted by Loran Cehack in the past" or something, then it still wouldn't (a) dispel the arguments people make about some things in the animation making more sense to come before/after Turn A, or be any more explicit a thing than Tomino himself saying G-Reco follows it in a public interview really. It might reinvigorate the debate, but it wouldn't really make it any worse.
A lot of arguments for/against its placement at the moment are mostly centered around whether to accept Tomino's interview comments as fact or not, especially since the show itself only mentions UC and not Turn A. Which is why most debates can go either way. But having an actual, explicit fact in the movie itself is definitely something that can't really be denied.
Not really, because the statement a character makes about how Cyrano 5 has been occupied continuously for several thousand years, the state of Jaburo despite being open to the elements but not being clean of technology etc. all exist within animation already and get brought up all the time in those debates. I believe the Cyrano 5 statement was slightly changed in the movies from what I saw in a thread a while ago, but the animation is still already ambiguous, so even a naked statement won't really change that; and it's unlikely he'd include such a naked statement anyway.
>green trailing lights on Bellri and the core fighter
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm..............
A recurring beat in late tomino gundam is villains born in times of peace who romantasize war and foolishly push for it even when they themselves are woefully unprepared for it's true consequences. This is partly a commentary on the whole re-militarization sentiment going around in japanese politics, which Shinzo Abe was a huge advocate for.
This cannot be a coincidence, they knew the exact time of Abe's shooting.
Of course they knew
Are the robots over Mask new? Dont remember seeing them in the show.
No. That's the Dahack and the Trinity.
still disappointed only the first wo have pantsu on cover
Three has the best poster
Yes because Aida is in the center
>only 3 still has credits + release date
Triggering my autism.
Fixed
should I watch the series before the rest of the movies is out or just wait till 5th releases?
Worst case scenario is the blurays won't get released until the end of the year like the previous ones
kek, imagine paying to watch a movie
Where do you think the Bluray rips are from?
Holy frick, they’re saying the 4th movie is 50% new material!!!!
Why you lyin
https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2021-08-23/gundam-reconguista-in-g-producer-about-half-of-4th-film-is-new-material/.176531
Sounds like the ending is going to be totally different this time. Super excited to see how this goes now.
>4th film is half new material
>5th film has zero new material
Sasuga Tomino-San
Most of the TV episodes that movie 5 covers are fine except for the last episode
Maybe most of the changes are there
Who’s they
Frick I want to see it, lads
Will Bellri frick his sister