Gasoline in. That stops the coca leaves from sticking together.

If it was legal there would be quality control for most users and, one assumes, there is quality control for the rare instances of modern medical use.

cocaine is not even as addictive as opioids

Just because you dont suffer withdrawal doesnt make it not addicting. Gambling is addictive and thats not even a drug

most drugs were made by European chemists in the 19th century

>porn
>sugar
>gambling
>video games

>even worse
Wrong. It becomes a cautionary tale to everyone else who would use them to do so in moderation.

No, letting people have agency over themselves is as right as can be. "Drugs bad" wouldn't be a thing anymore so there wouldn't be any reason to treat anyone as second rate for their normal problem. There's probably a way to create receptor blockers and stuff like that to help people but as with all illegal drugs, doing medical labs on it is also illegal and is never approved by the gov't because of pocket-lining politics.

No one is doing Fentanyl. Drugs are being laced with it so it's a poisoning problem. There was an opiate problem but you're trying to convince me I'm wrong without acknowledging what I said about people being allowed to do what they want with their own bodies, the stigma around it, and the problems that exist because drugs are illegal.

>world full of drug addicts
No. Drugs aren't hard to get. Plenty of people see what happens to drug addicts and that's exactly why they stay clear or are light recreational users. Like I said: cautionary tale.

The illegal deug trade is the worst aspect which could be cut down immensely if it was legalized. Furthermore if it was destigmatized there would be a lot more casual users that don't let it ruin their life.

I get it you're not a drug user. But I know a lot of people who did hard drugs and then stopped. Heroins a bad example but meth and coccinellids are prime examples of drugs that are not much more dangerous than alcohol. I'd rather drive around meth heads than drunks

It's a self solving issue if you let it follow through to its logical conclusion. Cautionary tales. It isn't heartless if you think about how people should be allowed to do what they want with their own bodies. Doesn't mean there can't still be outreach and rehabs. I can't even remember the last time I saw a PSA against illegal drug use.
>crime
Eeeehhhhh, we're getting too deep. I can keep going but I don't feel like it.

Legalizing everything isn't something that I've studied or anything. I've thought about it some and it would take a generation for things to normalize as far as everyone learning their lesson. I know it seems heartless but it isn't if you factor in all of the other things like how many people are hurt because of the Black Market that is created by outlawing something and all of the people that gain massive power by being the only source of manufacture and sale. You'd be seeing the user that chose their life instead of what we have now: Not seeing the family that is enslaved with terror in order to serve as a cog in the terror machine.

Anon, I didn't say it was a cautionary tale for the user. It's a cautionary tale for the rest of us. Just like it is now. You aren't really going to benefit from the Caution: Hot sign if you already burned your hand. That isn't how cautionary tales work either.

Get real reading comprehension.

How is that contradictory? I can see junkies that I don't want to be like; I don't do those drugs. Explain how that is contradictory to all drugs should be legal. There's only one way that can be contradictory, and that is if you think "getting a cautionary tale out of all of it to curb people from drug use" was the point of this conversation. Which it never was.

The crime is caused by drug addicts who become worthless to any work force and lose their jobs while still being addicted. Fricking stoners struggle to make a pizza or a frappe.

Good drugs are hard to get. I've been trying to get Adderall or oxys for awhile now and I can't find a hookup

You might not see people killing each other to get alcohol. But A LOT of crimes and accidents are caused by alcohol. Do you really want people high on pcp driving around too, and not just alcoholics? Do you know how much money drug addicts and alcoholics cost(not counting drug crimes)?

Except the countries which have decriminalized or legalized all drugs and haven't imploded.

More than 1 person on Cinemaphile, Anon, chill.

I wasn't that poster, either. Take a fricking break or learn how to read a thread.

And stop reading threads with the angry voice in your head. It isn't the poster, it's you.

Hey i'm guy #4 and I think coke is awesome

>Accept the harm that can be minimized.
NTA but harm can be minimized if we build an adamantium bunker for you to live in and we feed you organic vegetable mush through a straw so you don't bite your tongue and you don't get fat. Actually, we'll just have it pumped straight into your stomach so you don't choke. And your car will be limited to 5 mph.

Should we do it? Should we ban honey-buns because they're filled with stuff that kills people? Obesity kills millions of people every year. It's the leading factor in all diseases. Yet we let people eat literally to death because they don't get high?

Where do we draw the line before we're all safely tucked away in our bunkers with stomach tubes?

People should be allowed to do drugs, it's their body. "Minimizing" is another argument for "what I think is best for you, stranger." The point I'm making is that if you're allowed to make choices for other people then where should it stop?

Cardiac arrest from obesity is alright but taking some time out to escape exhausting existentialism shouldn't be allowed? That seems hypocritical.

I already did disagree with you, which never got proper reply. I've done so several times in this thread whether it was directly in response to you or not. Here's one:

It's a self solving issue if you let it follow through to its logical conclusion. Cautionary tales. It isn't heartless if you think about how people should be allowed to do what they want with their own bodies. Doesn't mean there can't still be outreach and rehabs. I can't even remember the last time I saw a PSA against illegal drug use.
>crime
Eeeehhhhh, we're getting too deep. I can keep going but I don't feel like it.

Legalizing everything isn't something that I've studied or anything. I've thought about it some and it would take a generation for things to normalize as far as everyone learning their lesson. I know it seems heartless but it isn't if you factor in all of the other things like how many people are hurt because of the Black Market that is created by outlawing something and all of the people that gain massive power by being the only source of manufacture and sale. You'd be seeing the user that chose their life instead of what we have now: Not seeing the family that is enslaved with terror in order to serve as a cog in the terror machine.

Also
>certainly an opinion
You're saying people shouldn't be allowed to do drugs.

I say they should. I've explained why.

You pointed to "bad things happening" as to why you should be allowed to tell other people what they can and can't do with their own body. I destroyed your logic because you shouldn't be allowed to tell people what they can do with their own bodies. Your
>that's an opinon
Is a copout because you can't read so good or you're trying to win by being dishonest. Either that or you aren't comprehending what you are reading. I'll type slow.

YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE HURTING THEMSELVES YOU HYPOCRITE!

ADMIT YOU HATE FAT PEOPLE!

See? I can be disingenuous too. Crime and drugs is neither here nor there because there are too many missing factors to plug in. Like the drugs being readily available and easy to get itfp, which means the cost would be down, which means they wouldn't have to steal.

Weed being legal is a bad example because of the extremely high cost of legal weed. In those instances it's only legal enough to be an umbrella for the regular black market to thrive under. If it were truly legal the factors would all be different and the metric used to measure wouldn't be the same because all the stats would say something different.

I don't really care anymore I'm not expecting a decent response after getting
>that's your opinion
Twice. Like, no shit that's my opinion. Way to pay attention.

>I have read this second one as well. Thank you, it was an opinion, and I really read it..
However, I still fail to see how any of that disagrees with me.
0/10

Were you born yesterday? People will do hard drugs legal or illegal. Alcohol is worse anyway.

>lists things alcohol causes
lmao

which drink does that?

okay but what about staying awake for 3 days

multiple teeth
>DUI'S
>Liver Damage
>Cancer
>Alcohol poisoning
>Literal children have access to it
>Promoted in the media as good
Alcohol is much worse, people don't even view it as bad since everyone gets peer pressured by society to be a party animal.

Sugar is more addictive, hence the 40% obesity rate in the US.

if there was quality control at all cocaine would not exist we'd have a better drug. i think ritalin is the medical equivalent.

>cigarettes don't have pine needles in them
Yes.

But that's also a loaded example due to what Big Tobacco did and continues to do.

I didn't say it doesn't count learn how to read.

>oh, yeah, because it's above ground industry and not a clandestine chemshop out in the woods.
So cigarettes are safe, then?

its not legal though its decrim. you're getting it from the same people as before. a lot of "cutting" is an accident because these people are moronic.

>Cocaine is incredibly hard on your cardiovascular system
so is that other thing thats 100% effective that they want everyone to 14 booster shots of