Genuinely he didn't do anything wrong
>B-BUT IT WAS IN THE TRASH
Just like how otherwise clean areas where it's socially appropriate to eat can be dirty, certain areas of the "trash" can be clean. The eclair wasn't interacting with any refuse, it was on a clean magazine.
>B-BUT IT HAD A BITE TAKEN OUT OF IT
You've never shared a drink with someone? George was under the impression his girlfriend's aunt had taken the bite, hypothetically if your girlfriend's clean presenting aunt offered you a sip of her drink would you really say no?
We unanimously decided last week that what he did was totally acceptable and that the c**t is at fault for freaking out.
No we didn't
Yes we did. I screen capped it.
Doing things that snobs frown upon is sticking it to the man. But you wouldn't know that because you probably have a successful family and work life.
Eating out of the garbage in a modern western country is one of the most degrading things you can do. Especially in an affluent area like NY.
>last week
What if it was in the trash because someone had sneezed on it
George was in the room while they were all there, he would have noticed if they sneezed on it.
It's a total George move to see something like that then lie to Jerry about the situation, if anything.
What if the person threw it away because they silently realized they had shit on their hand from an improper wipe, and had to play it cool
It's not about sanitation. If I put your favorite food on the top of my shoe, which I just sterilized seconds earlier, would you go down on your hands and knees and eat it? Despite it being 100% sanitary, you wouldn't.
It's about two things, mainly:
>George has no boundary for shameful behavior like eating out of the trash, indicating his very low worth as a man.
>George has no willpower to resist an eclair, which compelled him to take the risk of eating it from the trash.
Of course no one would openly say this because it's fundamentally cynical and superficial. So they said stuff like "it's dirty" and "it had a bite" to gaslight George into thinking he did an unsanitary thing, then pretend to take issue with that.
George was wrong because he was trying to have it both ways. He wanted to be himself and give into frivolous temptations in lowly ways while also to be respected and admired by his gf and her mom. He put himself in a situation he could not win. Either he alienated his gf and her mom with his behavior or forced himself to give up the things he loves in life, there was no third option. George was wrong because he did this to himself.
George made a logical decision, from his perspective it was highly unlikely there would be witnesses to his ""shameful"" behavior. There's plenty of things you do privately you wouldn't want others finding out about, that doesn't make it wrong. Just like how statistically the vast majority of people pick their nose, but none of them would admit to it, George was a victim of contradictory societal standards at worst.
Appeal to misogyny in a fictionalized universe is pathetic, Seinfeld established early on in the series that in universe women are different from real life, they even give people like George a chance. That barely happens in the real world.
So you listen to every arbitrary rule society lays out? I take it you never jaywalk, or pick your nose, or maybe bite your nails. Who the frick do you think you're kidding?
>from his perspective it was highly unlikely there would be witnesses to his ""shameful"" behavior.
He knew there was a chance he could be seen and lose his gf, whose family he was already trying to impress. Him trying to have it both ways lost him both. He could not eat his eclair in peace and his gf dumped him. He should have picked 1 instead of trying to pursue irreconcilable goals.
>There's plenty of things you do privately you wouldn't want others finding out about, that doesn't make it wrong.
It does not, nobody implied otherwise. He did something that should only be done in private in front of others while trying to pursue two separate goals. He lost them both - his eclair enjoyment was cut short and he lost his gf. There is a serious life lesson in his comedic scenario.
>George was a victim of contradictory societal standards at worst.
Nobody likes people who do private things around those they barely know. You can claim it's not fair but nothing will change. George knew this yet did it anyway, he's as much a victim as someone running into the freeway.
>So you listen to every arbitrary rule society lays out? I take it you never jaywalk, or pick your nose, or maybe bite your nails. Who the frick do you think you're kidding?
there's a massive gap in social acceptance between all three of these acts and eating something out of the trash.
>It's not about sanitation.
This. Like every other dispute in Seinfeld, it's about unspoken rules that separate out the classes of society. Like Jerry said, George crossed the line and became a bum, it's that simple. It doesn't matter if the trash can was brand new or freshly cleaned. Taking food out of the garbage is an inherently homeless act.
I would probably say no but making it not about her aunt having sipped from the same drink. Women are STD ridden and disgusting anon.
I just re-watched the scene. He looks around first to make sure nobody is watching. He knows what he's about to do is weird, and yet he still does it knowing full well someone could walk in at any time.
Although, what he should have done was lied and said that the eclair was just sitting on the counter and he didn't want it to go to waste. At least there's a little bit of plausible deniability there.
George did it to himself before it even happened by lying about who he is and getting too stressed. He even turned down pastries just seconds before when he's fat and hungry. It only seems acceptable in the context of cortisol being sky high.
Calm, cool chads don't get compelled to be sneaky. They proudly eat when they are hungry and enjoy it so that they don't need to act out strangely when no one is looking.
yeah dude chad is never machiavellian, don't be a sheltered homosexual if you're gonna reply to my thread
who was in the wrong here
only fat fricks defend George here
I used to steal milk from work and sometimes take swigs straight from the bottle if nobody was around. Love milk
You're an idiot
imagine explaining this scene to a starving person in Africa or Middle East
no I'm not being a leftie.
actually imagine having to explain this to someone from north Korea.
what would be the point? It's totally different social norms and they wouldn't understand it
>So in this scene, George finds a chocolate eclair with like one bite eaten out of it. It's laying on top of the garbage so it isn't ruined or anything. He picks it up and it looks alright so he takes a bite but this lady notices it and flips her shit. Was what he did really that unacceptable?"
>"Kakhoe keke *click* *click*."
>"I know, right! I knew you'd understand it, Wafoub."
You just made me wonder... I know one of the Kims liked movies so much that he kidnapped a director to make Godzilla movies for him, so have they made their own versions of popular American shows but adapted to suit the regime? Is there a North Korean Seinfeld where everyone claps at Charman Kramer showing up, or would the massive influence it had on tv shows be completely alien to a North Korean?
Imagine explaining it to the chinese
>so George saw some cooking oil someone had thrown away that he thought was perfectly good enough to fry his street food in... but his girlfriend's mom saw him lift the manhole cover to get it!
>here are multiple essays on why it’s okay to eat trash
Jesus. Do you bathe in trash too? Disgusting incels.
The lid was closed, so the eclair had been absorbing the fumes of whatever else was in there. That's fricking nasty, man.
Lmfao OP eats garbage
ITS TRASH ITS FRICKING TRASH HE IS EATING LITERAL TRASH
I would eat it if the bin wasn't enclosed and was sitting on a magazine (the latter was true-not sure about the former). I just wouldn't be able to enjoy it psychologically otherwise.
the lid's existence is probably the only thing creating conflict here.
A lot of us "george was wrong" folks would change our tune if there wasn't garbage can ON TOP of the eclair as well as under it
>The eclair wasn't interacting with any refuse, it was on a clean magazine.
>close lid on full can
>lid touches garbage
>empty garbage
>garbage fills up again
>place eclair on magazine
>close filthy lid over eclair and sprinkle god knows what onto it
>"it's CLEAN"
george was seldom right and this was not one of those times.
No one cares that it was at the top of the can on top of a magazine. Lots of bacteria festers near the lid of a trash can.
And if there's any kind of temporary bug in the can(like fruit flies that arrived with some thrown away fruit) then they're going to be all over the food item no matter where it is, never mind more permanent but low-grade(and therefore invisible) infestations if the people happen to be lazy with throwing their food waste out.
Holy shit imagine being such a fat frick you eat out of the trash
It would've been fine if he did it in his own home. He was being weird in someone else's house behind their backs and got caught. Rummaging through someone's trash is also a breach of privacy.