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He already has ghost machine going where did he say he's leaving DC
He’s Ghost Maxhine exclusive after he fulfills his dc requirements.
Most likely up to JSA #12
nah hes still gonna do both
Can someone group all the NYCC comic news in one thread AAAAA i hate xitter.
he ain't leaving
His Ghost Machine/Geiger stuff started when he was still working and/or after working Doomsday Clock
but still
HOLY SHIT JOHNS FINISH YOUR STUFF AT DC FOR FRICK'S SAKE LOOK AT ALL OF YOUR DELAYS AND GIVE BACK FRANK AND FABOK AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
He’s also doing Rook:Exodus, Junkyard Joe, and Redcoat along with Geiger at Ghost Machine.
4 titles and it’s said he’s exclusive now.
Face it fanboys, Geoff is done with DC
>it’s said he’s exclusive now.
where? even bleeding cool just said its a new imprint
>Face it fanboys, Geoff is done with DC
And nothing was lost. Does anyone care for his Ghost Machine stuff?
why are you unironically defending current DC?
He was BANNED of ever doing anything at DC thanks to Didio's frens and Jim Lee
DC banished HEAT after everything they did to save their company.
Now i want Johns as EIC at Marvel and have him strongarm OMD out as he did to Un-OMD Wally and his family
>DC banished HEAT after everything they did to save their company.
bro none of these Millenials or zoomer assistant editors know what the frick HEAT is.
Geoff for position of Captain Marvel’s writer please
According to the NYT article all of the founders are going to be exclusive to Ghost Machine
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/12/business/ghost-machine-comic-book-publisher.html
aw crap, DC's losing Manapul?
oh well, hope he finds success doing his own thing
They haven’t used him in years. Dude had that in-law get murdered, he finished up No Justice (had to be cathartic) or whatever and then they just ditched him. Always found that kinda scummy.
I’ll be honest I didn’t read a page of Geiger. I’m not a fan of modern (post-52) johns comics.
Honestly I’m sad to see tomasi go but they fricked him over twice or thrice ever reboot.
Will we finally see that Image book they teased he'd be doing at the end of Geiger issues?
>Tomasi
KWAB
Cassgay always rearing her head. Nobody cares about that zipper head.
>Geoff and Tomasi are out
I owe those homies as much as I owe Keith Giffen and J. M. DeMatteis for making my youth as a comic reader fun.
I still wish to see Geoff Hired as EIC at Marvel just so he can undo OMD and bring Mar-Vell back to life permanently.
So is this to DC what the Image launch was for Marvel?
It's funny isn't it? And it's a reversal at the same time; while Image was sold on the premise of the art, Ghost Machine is being sold on the premise of the story.
They should do the fusion dance and become Ghost Image that creates comics that are good all around
Not even close. Image founders moved hundreds of thousands of Marvel comics every month, these guys barely even worked at DC for the past several years. Meltzer hasn't been relevant in comics since 2006...
It would be somewhat similar if they did that sometime around Blackest Night I guess
DC fricked these guys hard I'm not surprised.
They should headhunt Alan Moore, he might join out of the sheer joy of having another way to say frick you to DC
Leah Williams and that other useless b***h
>They should headhunt Alan Moore, he might join out of the sheer joy of having another way to say frick you to DC
Alan Moore hates Geoff, remember?
Awful.
Who is even going to be left at DC Comics at this point?
All the writers that you hate.
Tom King, Tom Taylor, Tini Howard, Meghan Fritzmartin, Chip Zdarsky, Phillip Kennedy Johnson, Joanne Starer, and Joshua Williamson. And I think Leah Williams.
AAAAAAIEEEEEE
Jesus Christ it’s so bad when you look at it listed out. There is genuinely not one person there worth reading.
You know what no I will not allow myself to be beguiled by Kaminski being a homosexual. I take that back, Williamson is worth reading and I’d love his Superman of jon was a straight kid again. I just can’t force myself to accept that and never will.
PKJ is a b***h and awful writer though like the rest of them
Grim.
>Tom King, Tom Taylor, Tini Howard, Meghan Fritzmartin, Chip Zdarsky, Phillip Kennedy Johnson, Joanne Starer, and Joshua Williamson. And I think Leah Williams.
What a fricking impressive collection of the worst, most useless people ever.
>the only good thing they have is just Adams and his Green Lantern run
In b4 they poach him
I can see Adams doing original stuff in like a decade or a half or at least balance that with his DC stuff since even Williamson does that
I don't picture him fully committing to doing original comics
You forgot Mark Waid
He did but waid is losing steam fast.
You know it's bad when only two writers there are even remotely readable
No, only Williamson. The rest are utter garbage, and josh is only saved by the fact that he clearly loves DC but is hamstrung by its corporate decisions. He’s the only one who cleaned up what he could after Bendis.
>endless trash
How many of them are exclusively DC?
Contract and everything
I just recall Taylor signing one
I think Tom King has one. Or had on.
DC Comics doesn’t do really exclusives as much as they use to after they spent alot of money on Bendis.
I recall Dan Mora having an exclusivity contract at DC but he's still able to do covers for BOOM Studios as well as designs and the occasional interiors for Power Rangers
"exclusivity" almost always just means not working for marvel or dc. they don't give a shit about you doing some creator owned or smaller publisher stuff.
It was used as a reason for why Mora couldn't do a variant cover for an Image title when asked about it
He instead did art for a card game for said Image title
wtf happened to Bendis?
Got booted
Now he has his own imprint at Dark Horse
jesus christ
He kind of quietly left. It's probably because some of the books didn't sell but also feasibly because he saw the writing on the wall with James Gunn getting announced as head of DC films
After DiDio Had him ruin Jon Kent and the entire fanbase hate him from the bottom of his soul, he left since they fooled him by hiring Gunn.
>Phillip Kennedy Johnson
he's also doing work for Marvel so he probably doesn't count, Ram V just got an exclusivity with DC and Si Spurrier is writing Flash
ALL THE STARS ARE HERE
It's honestly time to cull the entire DC line.
>Tini Howard
>Fritzmartin
>Leah Williams
how long until every character is bi and yasskweening?
come on, Fritzmartin wrote YJ dark crisis just to spite the readers and calling them incels lmao
excuse me, you forgot Jadzia Axelrod
writer of Hawkgirl and everything Pride DC
Tom Taylor wrote all the "elsewere" books right? like DC zombies, vampires stuff, that dark kinghts of steel etc?
probably the only one i will continue to follow then
>Mirror lineup of marvel at the moment.
Frick this Gay timeline
Post the fricking article, I refuse to pay for a goddamn newspaper in 2023
You got it
>Brad Meltzer has experience with ownership in publishing. “As a novelist, I own my characters. I always have,” he said.
>Mr. Meltzer has written dozens of thrillers, including “The Escape Artist” and “The Book of Lies,” as well as books for children and comic books. He’s also no stranger to television: He was a creator of the series “Jack & Bobby” and the host of “Brad Meltzer’s Decoded,” which examined historical mysteries.
>“The entertainment industry is an ecosystem, and it is ever changing,” Mr. Meltzer said.
>Now he is trying to use his knowledge to help some like-minded writers and artists reshape the comic book industry. They have formed Ghost Machine, a media company that is being announced on Thursday, the first day of New York Comic Con, the pop culture convention. One of the principal tenets of the new company is creator ownership.
>“When you tell the stories of comics themselves, the creator doesn’t always come first,” Mr. Meltzer said. The tension goes back to the earliest days of comics: In 1938, the creators of Superman sold their rights to the character for $130, with no inkling of how valuable the hero would become.
>The founding writers and artists of Ghost Machine will be exclusive to the company and will jointly own, operate and profit from it. In addition to Mr. Meltzer, they are Jason Fabok, Gary Frank, Bryan Hitch, Geoff Johns, Lamont Magee, Francis Manapul, Peter J. Tomasi and Maytal Zchut. Other creators will be named after they fulfill their commitments to other publishers.
>“Everybody in the business wants to see comics thrive and continue to be an important part of pop culture,” said Mr. Johns, who is known for revitalizing many of DC Comics’ characters, including Flash, Green Lantern and the Teen Titans. “But the business model shifts so rapidly, we wanted to evolve with it.”
The absolute state of DC.
What the hell? Why is Brad Meltzer in this? He's one of the edgelords of the 00s, this Identity Crisis writing butthole can't be friends with the Prince of Comics so who the frick brought him in to sabotage Cereal Lord's imprint? I was so excited when I heard the news and now I'm mad.
Even though Identity Crisis was pure garbage, his Green Arrow run that followed Smith's was pretty good.
>Ghost Machine is an imprint of Image Comics made up of four different shared universes
>One of them is The Unnamed Universe which includes Redcoat, Geiger, Junkyard Joe (with latter two having been previously published under Mad Ghost Productions, another Image Comics' imprint spearheaded by Johns) - all written by Johns
>The other universe doesn't have a name but includes Rook - also written by Johns
This sounds like a mess. Why do comics people (writers, marketers, editors) struggle so hard with making things simple and accessible?
Well this sounds like something that will definitely last for more than a year or two.
You guys never heard of Black Hammer?
How are they comparable?
That was Lemire's own superhero universe
And how exactly is that comparable to Johns' two separate but barely distinguishable shared universes published alongside two other shared universes by other creators under a unified banner?
How is it inaccessible? Just read whatever looks interesting. I swear to god people are getting dumber by the day when they cry about shit like this.
Because it sounds like it will all be connected. Thats why it is called shared universe. When you just like one series but need 4 others, you are fricked and most people will stop buying incomplete stuff or stories that you need other series to understand.
>but need 4 others
Not true at all.
Thats were it will be headed to. Mostly, regarding the timebeam, it will be mini-series that interconnect. So you like Geiger but dislike Joe, but you need Joe series to understand the whole story.
Kinda contrary to why Manga is successfull, fracture your story that much people get confused.
You people really just love concocting imaginary fake problems
Ah so that’s why JSA was delayed to hell and back and why it was originally listed as a 12 issue series.
In a good timeline Adams and/or Venditti will take over JSA and/or relaunch it since they’re writing Jay and Wes’ books. In a bad timeline JSA is cancelled and never gets a book again. And in the worst timeline Sheridan takes over due to writing Alan’s book and makes the same mistakes he did on Teen Titans Academy (too many characters, fleshes out none of them).
You guys are just gonna absolutely love how Alan's gay boyfriend takes over the book.
Speaking of Alan’s book, I know people are mostly just mad cause of the gay thing but I’m surprised nobody has tried making an outrage thread about the twist in the book: Alan was blackmailed into joining the JSA by the president
Really sad he could be a greatest writer sad he chose the wrong action going to hollywood and accomplish nothing and letting down so many comicbooks.
Jim lee the same he chose "CEO" stuff instead comicbooks.
>make a bunch of random characters in hopes of royalties
>blatantly make two offshoot teams in Young Justice Society and Justice Society Dark
>bring Helena to the present and say on panel she’s stuck in the present in hopes they’ll add her to the overly bloated batfamily
>leaves
I hope DC kills all of them off just to spite him
Stargirl and Hal too
Sure Slott... can't wait to see him replacing cebulski so you will choke on your dorito.
People really need to stop fricking saying any new character is only made for royalties. DC and Marvel pay next to nothing in royalties these days.
True, but in this case, all the original Lost Children and Ruby are clearly originally a royalty attempt.
Johns was trying to pitch an Infinity Inc show about Jade, Obsidian, and Shade finding the JSA's sidekicks/children, and the two parter in Stargirl season 3 was the backdoor pilot.
Johns' slow ass planned for a Stargirl book to launch out of the spring break special (mid 2021) and was probably plotting it out when Stargirl season 3 was being written and shot (as it entered production in Oct 2021).
Johns was absolutely planning on putting some of the Lost Children (and probably Ruby) on the Infinity Inc show and they were going to debut in the comics first.
Also Johns and Bendis are like the two biggest creators who have no love of comics anymore and desperately want to be writing for shows and movies and get their original characters into shows and movies for money.
They're like 90% of creator owned books but on steroids because at least the creator owned books don't frick over established characters and franchises. They just go for 7 issues then die when they don't get optioned and those are easy to not get attached to.
>all the original Lost Children and Ruby are clearly originally a royalty attempt because Johns wanted a Stargirl spinoff
Why would you think the plan was just to make brand new OCs when obviously that show would have just meant doing more Infinity Inc. characters and maybe few other JSA associated characters?
>durrr Johns hates comics and just wants to do tv and movies now
Look, I know you’re butthurt about Johns but tv and movie producer shit was literally Johns’ job until fifteen minutes ago and he’s literally busy creating his own comic company that’ll publish original content under Image so these posts just reek of anti-bias seething instead of any type of rational thought and reasoning.
>DC is so bad the biggest DC prostitute ever is quitting DC
That's almost too sad to make fun of. Almost.
Here's your Ghost Machine line-up. Basically just a retirement home for washed up hacks.
I spy with my little I the mandatory diversity hire xir.
Solid but boring lineup. All of these comic book companies that have started up in the past 10 years all feel like a pathetic attempt to get a Netflix deal. In addition to the names people actually know, there's two literally who screenwriters Maytal Zchu and Lamont Magee who have little to 0 comic book work.
I've seen sadder startup comic publishers (DSTLRY and Bad Idea come to mind), but I don't think this news gets anybody excited.
All mainstream comics are nothing but movie and TV pitches. Image especially is the worst for this shit.
>but movie and TV pitches
Cinemaphile would never complain about this had most of these been for animation
No shit. The biggest issue I have with all the shitty comics coming out is they purposely limit their scope and creativity to be adapted to live action. Paneling is done to be a story board for a movie or show, and the setting is always something small that can easily be done on a low to mid tv budget. They all feel so fricking samey and bland because of this. A comic used to pitch a cartoon wouldn't be forced to limit themselves in the same way a pitch for live action does.
I meant if those comics right now were adapted into animation anyways
Bad Idea looks cool they're just morons that only sell to select shops. I'd read a bunch of their stuff if I could.
I love Image
I love superheroes
I encourage writers and artists to do what they want with the creative freedom they desire
I even love shared superhero settings when they're done well
I have nothing but the sincerest wishes for Geoff to pull this off and do well, I even enjoyed his work on this so far like Junkyard Joe and Geiger
But FFS I'm tired of shared universes, it's not special anymore
I'm sure there will be some solid books here and there but making it all take place in the same world is nowhere near as novel as people make it out to be anymore
The Image Renaissance was far from perfect but the push for more genre variety past capeshit was a welcomed one
No Legion of 4 Worlds for us then.
Sorry LoSH fans.
All of you willed Jim Lee as CEO of DC comics instead of Johns, look where we are now.
Gen X willed it when they ate up his X-Men shitty comics.
And here he is introducing trannies, turning jon kent into a homosexual and being a hypocrite towards Gen 13 and his original wildstorm creations, even Caitlyn Fairchild.
Plus the shitshow that is the power girl situation at the moment.
Till I see proof I won't force myself to get angry about this. But tbh I'm not really surprised either.
>Only Jim Lee is left
And boy oh boy do I wish he’d jump off of a fricking roof and have a bus run his ass over like ivory in how high
Dido looks so menacing here
And Jim is responsible for this
alongside DiDio
Good. Big 2 comics are dead.
>DC editorial is so toxic and moronic that they've driven a bunch of their people to this
I hate this timeline
Geoff will be back
his non-DC stuff does zero business.
DC really could fire every writer they have left and not lose a damn thing. Just let the artists write the comic at that point.
No. Those fricking losers are 10000000 percent worse and half the time the reason for random ass changes because “I want to draw MYYYY Batman design” type of shit.
They let Jimenez run roughshod over Gotham characters and they all look worse than the last. Dude went from my favorite artist to a fricking joke within just two years.
>Just let the artists write the comic at that point.
I really wish this could be so but most capeshit artists are borderline moronic writers. I can't think of a single DC writer-artist project that's been worth a damn.
if DC had real editors this could be possible
they don't so its just not worth it.
I remember a writer or two citing Tynion turning down an extension of DC contract after the success of SIKTC and The Department of Truth being the catalyst for a new wave of writers going original/creator owned
>Mr. Johns is a proof of concept of Ghost Machine’s goals. He and Mr. Frank
produced their first creator-owned work with “Geiger,” a comic book about a mysterious man living in a post-nuclear-war world. The six-issue series, published by Image Comics in 2021, was a critical and commercial success and is being developed by Paramount Television Studios.
>Because “Geiger” is creator-owned, the team received the majority of the profits earned by the comic and had full control of media rights. Mr. Johns will write the pilot and be the showrunner. Both men will be executive producers. Ghost Machine will publish its comics through Image Comics, which itself was established by top-selling artists who had grown frustrated with their lack of editorial control and the limited financial rewards from working on characters owned by media corporations. The comic book marketplace can be unwelcoming to new characters, but when they break through, it can be a windfall, said Milton Griepp, the chief executive of ICv2, an online trade magazine. He pointed to comic book titles like “The Umbrella Academy,” “The Boys,” “Invincible” and “Heartstopper,” all of which were adapted into streaming series. “The size of the win has increased dramatically over the last decade,” Mr. Griepp said. “And by that I mean the media exploitations of comics have become so lucrative.”
>Ghost Machine will begin its rollout in November with “Geiger: Ground Zero,” atwo-part prequel series, followed in January with “Ghost Machine” No. 1, a 64-page comic that will introduce four shared universes, each with a focus on action, family, horror or science fiction. Readers will meet the First Ghost, who is part of a supernatural story set in the White House by Mr. Meltzer and an artist to be revealed later, and the time-traveling Rocketfellers by Mr. Tomasi and Mr. Manapul. In conference-call interviews, the Ghost Machine founders all said the new company was a chance to experiment with telling different types of stories and, if successful, leave a legacy. “The industry tells you that the goal you should have is to work for the Big Two,” Mr. Fabok said. “I personally want to create new worlds and new characters that will outlive me and inspire the creators of today as well as the creators of tomorrow.” Mr. Meltzer added, “Ownership and freedom is priceless.”
Here's the trailer
Johns was wasted on post-New 52 DC.
what was that book tomasi announced a few years ago that was supposed to release through johns imprint?
Snipe and Slug
Frick me then, guess legion suffers longer
at this point he may as well start an onlyfans, he's done in comics
He's literally still writing comics
Member Rebirth /co?
No one else is going to be autistic enough to care about the JSA like Johns though, much less Infinity Inc or Rip Hunter.
That is the depressing factor yes, it shouldn't HAVE to be just him, but the low diverse pool of writers they have left just don't see the appeal to bronze age heroes.
>No one else is going to be autistic enough to care about the JSA like Johns though, much less Infinity Inc or Rip Hunter.
Bleak as hell. Get ready for more Batman.
williamson had Obsidian and Jade do something in one of his shitty events surely he can save Infinity Inc
True, Williamson is one of few people to admit publicly that they like stuff like Bloodlines, Darkness Within, and Underworld Unleashed so if anyone would do something, it's him
>NEW YORK 10/12/2023 — Ghost Machine, a first-of-its-kind creator-owned and operated media company officially launched today at New York Comic Con. Creators co-own all the characters and universes developed for Ghost Machine, sharing in all publishing, media, merchandise, and beyond. The pioneering creator collective is a global best-of-class roster of artists and writers whose award-winning and iconic works include a who’s who of comic book legends such as Batman, Superman, Spider-Man, The Flash, The Ultimates, Black Lightning and Green Arrow: Jason Fabok, Gary Frank, Bryan Hitch, Geoff Johns, Lamont Magee, Francis Manapul, Brad Meltzer, Peter J. Tomasi, and Maytal Zchut. The company plans to announce additional talent in the months ahead, including one major superstar creator. All creators will be exclusive to Ghost Machine for their comics work after completing their already committed to projects.
>As the recent Hollywood strikes have shown, creatives are disenfranchised with the traditional industry model—creators seek increased empowerment as a natural progression to an ever-changing entertainment landscape. Ghost Machine’s enterprising business model is at the forefront of this evolution with the characters and full company ownership shared by its creators in every way.
>“Our ambition for Ghost Machine is to push beyond superheroes, introducing new genres, characters and shared universes, completely co-owned by all the creators involved. We see this as the future of how creatives will work and retain creative control and meaningfully participate in success like never before," said the Ghost Machine founding creators joint statement. "Our passion is for the magic of graphic storytelling and the emotional resonance of compelling characters. But we are not just a comic book company—we are the first wholly creator-owned and operated media company of its kind, born out of a desire to create and succeed together.”
>Ghost Machine’s titles will be published through the original champion of creator-owned comics—Image Comics—the industry’s third largest comic book publisher behind Marvel and DC, which launched in 1992 when seven of the top comic book creators left Marvel Comics to own their own work and ideas. Now, Ghost Machine drives the industry norms and opportunities even further by having top talent collaborate and build out shared universes that they entirely control together. If Image Comics pushed the original boundaries, Ghost Machine is breaking barriers and creating a new frontier for creators.
>Eric Stephenson, Publisher and Chief Creative Officer at Image Comics, said: "It's been incredible to see how much planning has gone into what the Ghost Machine collaborators are putting together. It's an amazing list of talent, but beyond that, they're giving every aspect of this line a lot of thought, so that it's more than just another series launch, it's a true event. The way they're working together, and working with Image, make this a noteworthy development for us, as well as a must-read comics lineup for anyone looking for something different and new."
https://imagecomics.com/press-releases/ghost-machine-first-of-its-kind-creator-owned-and-operated-media-company-launches-at-new-york-comic-con
And here's their website
http://ghostmachinepro.com/
Werid how they hype themselves as the first fully-shared creator owned universe, the Massive-Verse is already a thing at Image and the Image Universe as a whole was originally envisioned as that until the creators realized it was stupid unless I'm misinterpreting things
Oh nvm, I see the difference now
You know what's fricked?
The closest we've ever gotten for a Cinemaphilemrade to make it writing at Marvel/DC is Leah Williams of all people
At least we'll get to see Geoff apply his talents to Image.
Mate, Geiger came out back in 2021
oh look more superhero shit.
plenty of non-capeshit out there. if only you actually read it instead of crying.
>All those Snydergays thinking they won over this
So it's John's JSA dead now?
I've seen people speculate he's stalling
Hey wasn't Geiger and Junkyard Joe originally meant for DC?
Yes, they were Atomic Knights and GI Robot for his Killing Zone imprint.
Once again we see how “well it’s too obscure, it wouldn’t sell” is just a perception issue because both Geiger and Junkyard Joe were great and successful comics. Granted, Frank and Johns are the names that made them sell well, but still.
Did it sell well? Or just good enough for a self published ( i mean under Image) series?
Geiger #1 sold over 100k. Issue #5 was little below 40k.
Typical #1. Many investors or comic shops. 40k is not really sustainable regarding the high value of production.
Where did i defend DC? I am just realistic. People only care about stuff that matters or are still advetised. People rarely talk about Moores or Kirbys non-DC/Marvel stuff. Thats just reality.
He needs a tv series asap to boost his imprint. Or at least some big Youtuber to shill his comic. Or a Cinemaphile game, maybe App-Game.
40k for issue 5 of a miniseries is really fricking good nowadays
>40k is not really sustainable
Oh shut the frick up
>Meltzer came out of retirement for this
Why'd they get him?
With Johns gone I hope they age up Stargirl. It's dumb that she's still 16 when Damian is now 14 or 15.
Why would you do that
Her once counterparts like Superboy, Tim Drake and Cassie Sandsmark are freshman college age at the least.
Courtney is still stuck at 15, doesn’t even have her license yet.
Progress. She already went through her character development throughout the beginning of the 1999 volume and she's been coasting off that and Johns' goodwill for like 20 years. She and YJ crew should be 18-21 by now which how fast they are aging Damian (and Wallace and Emiko up) up. It's just not as noticeable with her because she's stuck as the kid of her group (that didn't even had a book for years). Aging her up to at least 18, trying to launch Young Justice Society with her and 5-6 of the lost children, and making her the leader of it is really the only positive progress/development she can have. As the typical comic development (killing off friends/family, getting into a relationship with another team member) are things Johns will get pissy at.
Otherwise may as well retire her because she just takes up a spot on an overbloated team that could do to somebody the writer can actually progress or tell an actual story with.
*could go to somebody
into a relationship with another team member
She SHOULD be getting it on Jakeem Thunder by now.
Geoff was a coward not to pair them up
Geoff's not going to have his dead sister burning coal.
Why not?
Give me one reason why.
Besides hell no longer be retiring her soon.
Because even nonracist libs have strong feelings about their family. And of course Ray Fisher disputes the "nonracist" part.
She doesn’t need to be older for any of that.
Damian is 14
By that measure, Tim should be 21, and by extension all the YJ kids too, but there's no reason the JSA kids need to be held to the same timescale. They never interact, and didn't even exist for nearly a decade.
Well former Young Justice member, Secret, is now Courtney’s teammate in Young Justice Society.
Wondergirl should join Stargirl on the JSA.
So another young blonde girl and it’s Wonder Woman rep.
Honestly Ghost Machine seems to be an attempt to cut off the growth of indie publishing like Eric July.
Wouldn’t be surprised if they were getting funding from Warner or Disney under the table.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OOTL here, why was Geoff disliked by management?